ONE-TRICK PONY

Robin Brownlee
November 26 2013 07:23PM

I'm not sure where the Edmonton Oilers would rank if we rated NHL teams one through 30 based on the offensive skill and prowess of their of top-six forwards, but I'm confident they'd sit higher than 30th or 29th or 24th, which is where they've finished in the standings these past three seasons.

While the Oilers stack up pretty well – on paper if not in actual on-ice production -- in top-six flash and dash with the ability to send Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle, Nail Yakupov, Ales Hemsky and Sam Gagner out the gate, they are so lacking in other dimensions you get what we have here as they head for Nashville with a 7-16-2 record.

If opponents match Edmonton's level of offensive skill on the top two lines – and there are several teams that can – the Oilers are screwed because if they can't coax teams into a track meet or a no-hitter, they don’t have another way to get the job done, to win games.

The Oilers aren't big enough or gritty enough to win games that turn into a physical battle. They aren't mentally tough enough to prevail in a test of wills. They aren't remotely close to defensively sound enough to lock things down in tight games. They lack gamesmanship. They don't have a goaltender who can consistently outperform the guy in the crease at the other end of the rink.

It's been said countless times. We've seen it play out time after time the past three seasons, including last night in a 5-1 loss to the Chicago Blackhawks. The mix is wrong. Plenty of reasonably skilled and undersized forwards, not much else to bring to the table. This is not stop-the-presses stuff for fans, media or GM Craig MacTavish. All this we know.

THIS JUST IN . . .

Knowing what's lacking, obviously, is one thing. Doing something about it, changing the mix of personnel and adding different dimensions to the meat of the roster, not the fringes, is quite another because MacTavish hasn't managed to pull it off so far with an eighth straight year out of the playoffs on the horizon.

Until MacTavish does that, until coach Dallas Eakins has a different roster of players from which to assemble his line-up, anything he does right now is, to borrow a threadbare cliché, akin to shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. This team, as assembled, isn't going to compete for the playoffs. Not this season. Not next season. It's not going to happen.

Again, this is not a revelation. That, I suspect, is what frustrates Oiler fans most. Does MacTavish need more time to change the make-up of this team? Sure he does. He's been on the job as GM for months, not years. Fact or not, that's a tough sell for fans who've been faithfully buying tickets for decades. They've been more than patient.

That isn't MacTavish's fault, but it most certainly is his problem. Changing the make-up of this team, assembling the right mix, is either going to take a lot more time or the kind of "bold moves" MacT talked about when he took the job. That, in the end, is going to mean taking a player or two from that talented group of forwards and turning it into the necessary pieces.

Time, I'd suggest, is not on MacTavish's side. That leaves bold. My sense is that, while nobody wants to part with one of thoroughbreds up front, they've seen enough of the same damn thing for years on end to have the stomach for it if the return is right. Until that happens, this one-trick pony of a team isn’t going anywhere, except in circles. It's a carousel of false hope.

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#51 Reg Dunlop
November 26 2013, 10:29PM
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nick wrote:

Wouldn't make a difference, the Oiler forwards don't work hard enough and they have no idea how to play defence.

I have to say, nick, you got that right. I think, however, team defence is directly proportional to effort so maybe the plight of the oil can be simplified further: the young oilers lack work ethic and character. Very seldom have I witnessed a pro hockey team give up so easily and often. They get down by a goal and give up. They start the season slow and give up. Skill and character don't necessarily live next to each other, sometimes skill lives next door to spoiled, self-centered diva with a sense of entitlement.

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#52 Slats
November 26 2013, 11:23PM
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What we have is time, if you conclude this season is done. MacT needs to wait as we get to Dec and Jan as other contending teams get injuries in their top 6 forwards.

He should have his list of players available (please include Gagner with NTC - would he not want to go to contender like Pitt? really?)ready and then start trading. Bold trades. No more picks please! Actual players.

We will then be trading on teams with a weakness (hopefully teams like Toronto, Boston, Detroit, Pitt, St. Louis)

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#53 Fresh Mess
November 27 2013, 07:55AM
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He Who Knows wrote:

Oh god, the watered down sportsnet is now the behemoth of the hockey powers in Canada? Help us all.

It won't be watered down for long. There is going to be a mass exodus of TSN and CBC employees heading over to Sportsnet. You get the best people when you have the best content.

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#54 Butters
November 26 2013, 08:44PM
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I think Eakins being too green is part of the issue. One thing that still stands out for me occurred when the Oiler were playing VCR and Torts started jabbering at the Oiler bench. Why Eakins didn't tear a strip out of Torts I will never know. You don't need to lose it all the time, but I thought that was an appropriate time to do it.

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#55 Tired of thes
November 27 2013, 10:42AM
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Perhaps the best article that I have read on Oilers Nation in years. Finally, an article brimming with common sense. I'm tired of reading of our skilled forwards. Just what have they done in the last 4 years? I've had enough of reading of all the hype and potential. Give me some hard nosed knuckle draggers that live to win!! We have such a soft team to pin our hopes and dreams on.:(

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#57 paulie
November 27 2013, 03:22PM
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Oier Al wrote:

I think this is great write up on the Oiler situation.

I think MacT tried to make more moves this summer but could no or perhaps was told that there are untouchable beyond the Fab Five....

I mean Hemsky and Gagner should have been moved ,they are not difference makers on this team .I honestly think these are Lowes boys and that why GAGner gets extended, and Lowe showered $10 million on Hemsky two years ago... no team wants him and his contract.

The fact is that if you had a great improvment on the 3 and 4 lines, Defense , goal tending , your top six still play the same game,,, and they are top minute crunchers .. what you see is what you get.... their game will remain the same... and thats not good.

I have no problem moving Eberle, but it would be A CRIME .. to trade him while retaining Hemsky and Gagner.

To me it is the same article just rehashed over and over. Lets say MacT was told not to trade any of the Fab Five, what does that speak of him. It would certainly speak to the ineptitude of this organization and why MacT really got the job. Of course it is speculation, but nothing would surprise me with this organization.

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#58 Puck_In_Throat
November 27 2013, 04:52PM
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Here is the crux of why the Oilers suck and Detroit pwns:

Edmonton rushes young players to the NHL, and Detroit does not.

Every young player, not matter how skilled, plays at least a year in the AHL in Detroit's system or in Europe.

Datsyuk and Zetterberg joined the Wings as 23 and 22 year olds, respectively.

Gustav Nyquist and Tomas Tatar, Detroit's top two prospects, have played in the AHL for 2 and 3 years respectively, putting up nearly a point a game.

In those years, young players learn how to play 2 way hockey, without the pressure of requiring wins "today". They are then brought up to the NHL and expected to play 2 way hockey.

By comparison, none of Eberle, Hall, Nuge, Yak, Gagner, Hemsky or J. Schultz has, with the exception of the lockout, played in the AHL.

You all saw what those guys did in the AHL for 40 games. If they all had 150 AHL games, they would have learned a LOT more than in getting pounded for 150 NHL games.

BTW, Nyquist is Gagner's age, and Tatar is a year younger. Their NHL salaries: $950,000 and $630,000, respectively. You could ice both players for less than half the cost of playing J. Schultz.

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#59 Retsinnab5
November 26 2013, 07:50PM
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hadenough wrote:

Of the top 3, Eberle can be dealt. Not a horrible contract and he has the ability to change games. Im my opinion, he can go because if hes not scoring big goals, hes absent. He'll never make a body check, block a shot, back check, or skate hard. He floats and has terrific hands. We need a buyer.

"Im my opinion, he can go because if hes not scoring big goals"

Have you watched the world juniors?

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#60 Butters
November 26 2013, 09:54PM
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nick wrote:

Wouldn't make a difference, the Oiler forwards don't work hard enough and they have no idea how to play defence.

I agree, they looked pretty listless that night. You would think they would get up to play the SC champions. Still, there D is an issue and next year they may have 2 rookie blue, Nurse and Klef.

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#61 mlcselli
November 27 2013, 07:18AM
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How in the name of all that is holy, are we ever going to compete in this league when we can't even get a roster of NHL players to play for 60 minutes a night? The attitude these players have of giving up on the play, and throwing in the towel half way through a game, when they are down a goal or two is mind boggling to me. It appears to me, more often than not that the Oilers are playing out of their league. They don't show any fight, interest or compete most of the time. As we sit in whatever tier we are in, getting ulcers waiting for the next draft pick, the players are laughing all the way to the bank. This is so unacceptable and a shame for the fan that pay outrageous prices to watch another collapse.

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#62 Larry
November 27 2013, 10:31AM
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hockeycrazed wrote:

Not trying to be anything, man! Just trying, which is more than I can say about some of the over-paid bystanders the Oils have right now. But it's true isn't it? What I'm afraid is, management's going to trade for, under pressure, a 30 something, over the hill D-man, leftovers that his team don't need no more, and at the same time give away a legitimate prospect or two away!!! Heck, they gave Smid away for almost nothing! If they are going to do that, then might as well start playing their prospects here in Edmonton, at least they'll find out first hand whether they're prospects or suspects!!! At least die-hards like us could have a taste of what the futures is, rather than hear about how good they are playing for the other teams!!! Right?

Yeah, your right. Good points. At this point, what do we have to lose? We can't get any worse. (Well we could but there's only one last place team). It's so frustrating. I've been a fan since 85' and after the glory years we iced pretty good teams but were constantly losing good players cause of money. Now, post salary cap era we have tonnes of money yet we have the worst team ever. I just don't know. I've lived in southern Alberta all my life and right now it's embarrassing to be an oilers fan... My Flames fan buddies said KLowe was a joke years ago, now I finally agree with them...

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#64 hockeycrazed
November 27 2013, 02:03PM
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@Larry

Hey, I couldn't agree more, man, I am a fan since 79, been a season tickets holder since 81, been thinking of giving them up though, it's just so frustrating to watch the team you loved and supported to be run by people who cared about everything else but the hockey part of it, they aren't drafting a lot of elite players as they had when Barry Fraser was here, and when they did, they would develop them and trade them away for money. They might call this An NHL franchise, But, it sure feels like it's an AHL affiliate, responsible for training young players, and when they are ready, they would be sent away..... If there ever was ' hockey player trafficking' this fits the billing perfectly!

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#65 **
November 26 2013, 07:27PM
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First comment, that is all.

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#66 Bubslub
November 26 2013, 09:08PM
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Hate to bring this back tong anger but it just so epitomizes why we will fail given present management. To protect this guy as a core player when he does not fill any of our needs is insane. Not to say he is not an able NHL player but he does't fit with the playoff destination needs of this team. So why protect him for 3 more years? For this team to change someone has to look at these assets and move hopefully the ones that don't fit but moving anything seems to be our biggest problem. Tough to be bold with guns always holstered.

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#67 kale
November 26 2013, 09:21PM
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Great article RB. Wow does Buffalo ever suck (only team I can say that about being an Oiler fan and all)

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#68 Walter Sobchak
November 26 2013, 10:42PM
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RB said it, this team is butter soft.

I can't for the life of me figure out why people think it would be a good idea to bring in another overpriced butter soft player in Ehrhoff!

This team so badly needs strength, size down the middle, what does MacTavish do? He signs Frodo snow pants to an extension with a NTC!

So while something's remain obvious to those outside the Oilers, MacTavish and Lowe are busy trying to construct the 80's Oilers.

I'm not convinced the Oilers know what to do! 8 years tells me the have no clue.

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#69 Rama Lama
November 27 2013, 03:27PM
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I think that most fans are resigned to the fact that until the Oilers land a big tough puck moving defensemen with a positive track record, nothing will change.

The real problem is is there one of those defensemen available? I suggest not......and even if there was, we would have to give up two or three top end assets to get him. All this means we would now have a stud defensemen and now be short in other positions. The net gain would be neutral and now the fans would be just as pissed off.

There is no trade solution so the only logical solution would be to get a UFA and overpay, .......and then hope that your drafting provided exactly what you need.

We can only hope Darnell Nurse is the next coming of Chris Pronger!!

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#70 nick
November 26 2013, 09:24PM
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Terran wrote:

Keep RNH, Hall, Perron, and Belov. Everything else is up for grabs, for the right return.

Keep Belov????? What have you been smoking. The guy is not an NHL defenseman. If he was good do you think he would have been picked up before he was 27? Sure 29 other teams missed this guy. No they didn't want this guy.

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#71 Citizen David
November 27 2013, 07:27AM
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Everyone please read. Willis speaks the truth

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/11/27/the-edmonton-oilers-small-young-core-isnt-really-a-problem/

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#72 camdog
November 27 2013, 10:15AM
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Blucifer Copperballs wrote:

Belov will be good someday, and sooner than later. But he sure gets lost under pressure right now. Not really his fault, since the oilers have a real history of throwing too many minutes at guys who shouldn't have to shoulder the responsibility, but have to fill a void where there is no option.

Belov is a UFA at season's end, no guarantee he will be here next season, regardless of what management thinks of him.

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#73 Spydyr
November 27 2013, 11:10AM
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@Robin Brownlee

It also cannot be coached, either you have it or you don't.

That being said if both players are equally motivated, say the playoffs, the bigger stronger player will win most battles.

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#74 camdog
November 27 2013, 11:33AM
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@Robin Brownlee

Using hits as a stat is meaningless. General physics dictates that a 5"9, 165 pound checker checking a 6"2 220 pound forward doesn't produce the same effects as a 6"2 220 pound forward hitting a 5"9 165 pound forward. You can have all the compete in the world, that said the body checks are not of equal value. The Oilers being in the top ten in the league in body checks does not equate them to being a physical hockey team.

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#75 Cru Jones
November 27 2013, 05:59PM
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@Puck_In_Throat

I hear this argument a lot and I have to disagree. It's impossible to gauge how the Wings, who aren't all that great right now themselves, would behave with the sort of picks the Oilers have had because they've never had them. If you think the Wings would be keeping players like Yakupov, RNH and Hall in the minors, I think you're mistaken. The guys that the Wings have seasoned in the minors are the same sort of picks that Edmonton is doing the same thing with, ie: Lander, Hartikainen, Gernat, etc.

I'm not arguing that Edmonton's high picks wouldn't have possibly benefited from time in the minors, I just don't think it's realistic to point to the way another franchise handles picks in the 20-100 range, and say that's how it should be done for guys drafted in the top 5. If you look at Edmonton's players drafted in similar spots (Petry, Pitlick, Lander), Edmonton is arguably doing the same thing as the Wings.

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#77 Blucifer Copperballs
November 27 2013, 07:54AM
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At the risk of being unpopular, and getting trashed, I'll say what i have been saying since the start of the season. We need to package Yakupov (RNH and Hall arent going anywhere, and Yakupov has more upside to teams then Eberle) along with the 1st round pick ( we dont need another right now;weak draft year)and Hemsky (if anyone will take that contract; he wants out, won't hit, history of injuries) and get a couple grinders that can skate, hit, score to round out the 2nd and 3rd lines. Just make the trade to the east so we dont have to watch Yak light up the net more than twice a year after he comes back. Yaks got a shot, and he will be great one day, but his trade makes the most sense and holds the most value for getting somethign back. Someone out there must need a power play specialist, which is really all Yak is right now.

Trade will happen around the Olympics.

EDIT: Also, because I've said this again, Yaks and Hemmer will probably light it up on the road trip Thur and Fri, because thats what always happens when i open my mouth and speak. I just make room for feet.

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#78 Blucifer Copperballs
November 27 2013, 07:58AM
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Terran wrote:

Keep RNH, Hall, Perron, and Belov. Everything else is up for grabs, for the right return.

Belov will be good someday, and sooner than later. But he sure gets lost under pressure right now. Not really his fault, since the oilers have a real history of throwing too many minutes at guys who shouldn't have to shoulder the responsibility, but have to fill a void where there is no option.

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#79 Rod from Viking
November 27 2013, 08:34AM
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What is concerning me is the lack of compete which was lip serviced would not happen, I am getting so tired of the 2 hour drive home after watching a game like the Chicago game and the many others like that the last 6 years. I am a Taylor Hall fan but he is playing like someone that knows this team is going no where fast and is tired of this losing culture. I think Mac T made a big mistake saying we are going to keep this core of small skilled players and add to it, the most unfortunate thing is when the do decide they need to trade one of these players they will be eating some of the contract to get it done.

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#80 bleedblue
November 27 2013, 09:16AM
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Blucifer Copperballs wrote:

At the risk of being unpopular, and getting trashed, I'll say what i have been saying since the start of the season. We need to package Yakupov (RNH and Hall arent going anywhere, and Yakupov has more upside to teams then Eberle) along with the 1st round pick ( we dont need another right now;weak draft year)and Hemsky (if anyone will take that contract; he wants out, won't hit, history of injuries) and get a couple grinders that can skate, hit, score to round out the 2nd and 3rd lines. Just make the trade to the east so we dont have to watch Yak light up the net more than twice a year after he comes back. Yaks got a shot, and he will be great one day, but his trade makes the most sense and holds the most value for getting somethign back. Someone out there must need a power play specialist, which is really all Yak is right now.

Trade will happen around the Olympics.

EDIT: Also, because I've said this again, Yaks and Hemmer will probably light it up on the road trip Thur and Fri, because thats what always happens when i open my mouth and speak. I just make room for feet.

It would be madness to trade Yakupov. He had success in his rookie year because Krueger put him in a position to succeed. Tom Renney did the same for the other young guns. Eakins is a rookie coach who doesn't understand how to utilize what he has, nor does he put the rookies into positions where they are more likely to succeed. Why does it seem like the majority of the posters here seem to be ahead of Eakins? Did he watch every Oiler game from last year to understand what he was taking over? Just wondering.

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#81 thednp
November 27 2013, 11:31AM
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The truest statement written all year about this team and what everyone outside the team seems to know and front office might now be seeing and maybe dealing with.

"The Oilers aren't big enough or gritty enough to win games that turn into a physical battle. They aren't mentally tough enough to prevail in a test of wills. They aren't remotely close to defensively sound enough to lock things down in tight games. They lack gamesmanship. They don't have a goaltender who can consistently outperform the guy in the crease at the other end of the rink."

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#82 bdiddy18
November 27 2013, 11:33AM
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Or you could wait to allow teenagers to grow into their adult sizes ??

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#83 Pucker
November 27 2013, 01:57PM
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Another frustration is the Oiler's lose if a team pressures them.

They looked good against Florida and Columbus because they were allowed time to handle the puck.

Calgary, I'm not sure. Might have been just a difference in talent there.

Chicago was on them like a dirty shirt, which created bad passes/turnovers. I think the body checking has very little to do with it. It's just pressure.

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#84 Pucker
November 27 2013, 01:57PM
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Another frustration is the Oiler's lose if a team pressures them.

They looked good against Florida and Columbus because they were allowed time to handle the puck.

Calgary, I'm not sure. Might have been just a difference in talent there.

Chicago was on them like a dirty shirt, which created bad passes/turnovers. I think the body checking has very little to do with it. It's just pressure.

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#85 Pucker
November 27 2013, 01:59PM
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Sorry for double-posting.

I click the button, Wait a minute. Nothing happens - so I click again and

Presto!

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#86 oildrops
November 27 2013, 04:31PM
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The problem is the coaching staff, problem solved. it's also more complex then that.

or

It could be the goalies fault for not stopping the pucks from going in the net? I think that sounds better.

or

maybe we have to stop watching the puck and start forcing turnovers and make teams play our game.

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#87 S cottV
November 27 2013, 04:42PM
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S cottV wrote:

I've said it before and got trashed but if somehow Phaneuf and the Leafs dont fully connect and there is some way to get him to take a little less to play at home for a run at the cup - maybe something to look at? I know there may be apparent baggage but what other established top pairing d man is around that wouldnt mind living in Edmonton - and would fight for a deep seeded home cause? Falls under MacT's take a risk program - for sure. But - if you coach some of the giveaways and bad hits, out of his game and maybe a little of the wrong attitude (has a lot of the right attitude) - he is a legit home grown stud d man. Problem is - he's playing too good right now and the Leafs may pay most of the price being asked to keep him.

Here is an excerpt from a Toronto newspaper reporting on the Phaneuf contract negotiations "No question, he is Toronto’s best defenceman, someone who is used on the power play, penalty kill and to shut down the other teams’ top lines. In that role, he has the Leafs’ best possession numbers, with Phaneuf on the ice for more shots for than shots against." Geez - wouldnt that be a few attributes we could use in an Oiler uniform?

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#88 Copper
November 27 2013, 05:50PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Robin, so, stats only count when they support your argument ? 60% of Oilers games have been on the road so far. Not homer stats. Again, biggest holes are bottom 6. Oilers at missing 5 of them. Top pair Dman is what most NHL teams would like too.

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#89 camdog
November 27 2013, 07:06PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I think that most fans are resigned to the fact that until the Oilers land a big tough puck moving defensemen with a positive track record, nothing will change.

The real problem is is there one of those defensemen available? I suggest not......and even if there was, we would have to give up two or three top end assets to get him. All this means we would now have a stud defensemen and now be short in other positions. The net gain would be neutral and now the fans would be just as pissed off.

There is no trade solution so the only logical solution would be to get a UFA and overpay, .......and then hope that your drafting provided exactly what you need.

We can only hope Darnell Nurse is the next coming of Chris Pronger!!

Problem with Pronger is he didn't really excel until his 3rd season in the league. Even if Nurse turned into a Pronger that means another couple of years of well - this.

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#90 **
November 26 2013, 08:08PM
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@pelhem grenville

The Oilers new anthem: Sick cycle carousel by Life house. Here are the lyrics, enjoy:

"Sick Cycle Carousel"

If shame had a face I think it would kind of look like mine If it had a home would it be my eyes Would you believe me if I said I'm tired of this Well here we go now one more time

I tried to climb your steps I tried to chase you down I tried to see how low I could get it down to the ground I tried to earn my way I tried to tame this mind You better believe that I tried to beat this

[CHORUS] So when will this end it goes on and on Over and over and over again Keep spinning around I know that it won't stop Till I step down from this for good

I never thought I'd end up here Never thought I'd be standing where I am I guess I kinda thought it would be easier than this I guess I was wrong now one more time

I tried to climb your steps I tried to chase you down I tried to see how long I could get it down to the ground I tried to earn my way I tried to tame this mind You better believe that I tried yo beat this

[REPEAT CHORUS] Sick cycle carousel This is a sick sycle, yeah Sick cycle carousel This is a sick cycle, yeah

[REPEAT CHORUS TWICE] Sick cycle carousel Sick cycle carousel Sick cycle carousel...

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#91 Hockeycrazed
November 26 2013, 08:51PM
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I am not trashing the Oil because they lose another listless game, I have long suggested that they should try and assemble every line with a tough member in it, be it a winger or a Centre, in order to create space for the much smaller, yet skillful players. And they don't really have to look else where for them; If they look closely, they'll find them within themselves. What about Hartikainen? Khaira? Lander? Or even Yakimov? Since they're giving up the season already, why not promote these prospect now? Go for broke, let's get Nurse, Klefbom, Simpson, Marincin and last but not least get Fedun back up here, don't really think they'll fare any worst than some of the D they're putting out there right now!!! The real money the Oil had to dish out is a legitimate No. 1 Goal-Keep... One that can carry the Oil on his shoulders and give them Zeros on the board consistently, then and only then, you will finally see the light at the end of this long tunnel!

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#92 Willy
November 26 2013, 10:50PM
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The problem is coaching, don't see the puck possession team we were told about. Players all seem lost under Eakins system like he was going to revolutionize coaching in the NHL. What worked with the AHL is not working here. With the talent that is up front it matches the size of the Black Hawks. Wonder what Alain Vigneault would have done with this team. It's his type of team. Are the top 2 lines of the Canucks bigger? not by much..... wait til next season... not for me done!

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#93 Mjolnir
November 26 2013, 10:51PM
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The oilers don't stack up well on paper. That is their problem. Lots of teams get "coaxed" into a track meet and win. Why?? Cause they got a goalie that stop pucks and finishers that finish. Parting with all the thoroughbreds is the only thing that will help this team. That and Ekblad.

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#94 madjam
November 26 2013, 10:59PM
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NHL has fast become a war zone in front of opposition net , and also our own .That's where the bulk of every game is played/evolved . That's natural progression with the deluge of hockey players available today . Like football,you require a superior offence and defence lineman in todays upper eschilon . Neither of which we are very good at , or have the prerequisite size . Our results certainly bear that out . Gone are the days of skilled multiples of smaller softer forwards with questionable defensive liabilities beyond just their size . Lowe may be responsible for builing it , but MacT. is not going about correcting it or only partially recognizing it . Wish it were otherwise but 8 years of failure shows much needs to change or we will remain on same course .

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#95 Old School G
November 26 2013, 11:06PM
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With our combination of prospects, free agents, and bargaining chips this year it can only get better. MacT is looking for a Peca, Pisani, Pronger, and Roloson.

Is Bryzgalov our Roloson?

With more ice time can Joensuu be our Pisani? When's Pitlick back? He had some of this type of game too.

We have Gordon but we need one more Peca type player, I'm looking forward to seeing how MacT handles this. Whoever MacT acquires will be huge at determining the course of the team, such an important player.

The "Pronger" is so important. Bring in a stud big time d man or a couple higher calibre d men. One big time guy has the flash, but two higher calibre d men may be a good option, couple all around guys to pair with JSchultz and Petry.

HUGE DECISIONS! MacT, I don't blame you for taking your time.

It's not impossible, he's already got some good things going on so far. I got to keep believing.

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#96 Larry
November 27 2013, 06:31AM
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Hockeycrazed wrote:

I am not trashing the Oil because they lose another listless game, I have long suggested that they should try and assemble every line with a tough member in it, be it a winger or a Centre, in order to create space for the much smaller, yet skillful players. And they don't really have to look else where for them; If they look closely, they'll find them within themselves. What about Hartikainen? Khaira? Lander? Or even Yakimov? Since they're giving up the season already, why not promote these prospect now? Go for broke, let's get Nurse, Klefbom, Simpson, Marincin and last but not least get Fedun back up here, don't really think they'll fare any worst than some of the D they're putting out there right now!!! The real money the Oil had to dish out is a legitimate No. 1 Goal-Keep... One that can carry the Oil on his shoulders and give them Zeros on the board consistently, then and only then, you will finally see the light at the end of this long tunnel!

I'm not sure if your trying to be funny, sarcastic or you just did too much acid back in the day?

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November 27 2013, 07:40AM
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@Larry

Not trying to be anything, man! Just trying, which is more than I can say about some of the over-paid bystanders the Oils have right now. But it's true isn't it? What I'm afraid is, management's going to trade for, under pressure, a 30 something, over the hill D-man, leftovers that his team don't need no more, and at the same time give away a legitimate prospect or two away!!! Heck, they gave Smid away for almost nothing! If they are going to do that, then might as well start playing their prospects here in Edmonton, at least they'll find out first hand whether they're prospects or suspects!!! At least die-hards like us could have a taste of what the futures is, rather than hear about how good they are playing for the other teams!!! Right?

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#98 Spydyr
November 27 2013, 07:57AM
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Building a balanced hockey team with people filling all the roles necessary to win is what it takes to succeed in todays NHL?

Wow, some of us have been saying this here for years and getting trashed for suggesting they have too many small skilled forwards and not enough hard working, gritty , tough , character players.

Even under Eakins losing is still acceptable here. The crap he spouted after the Chicago loss has to stop. Compete every night. You should field a team that can win on any given night.

One more thing the goaltending sucks , has for years. Not one stat saying Dubnyk is a middle of the road starter will change that.

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#99 BIGDAWG
November 27 2013, 10:33AM
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EVANDER KANE is a good start.........

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#100 chris
November 27 2013, 01:15PM
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its funny when people talk about the oilers skill levels like they have proven themselves at the nhl level. when the oilers freakin compete every night then and only then will I consider them to have skill. right now there a bunch of spoiled millionaires. my dead grandmother has more energy than these bums

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