GDB 27.0: BACK-TO-BACK?

Jason Gregor
November 29 2013 10:14AM

Ilya Bryzgalov couldn't have written a better script. In his first start as an Oiler, Bryzgalov 33 shots and picked up his first win and first shutout. Brzygalov is the first goalie to register a shutout in his first game as an Oiler since Jussi Markannen did it in 2001.

Does Eakins go back-to-back with Brzygalov or should he play a rested Devan Dubnyk?

Before you start yelling and ferociously hitting your keyboard with insults that I'm an idiot for even asking the question, read on.

The Oilers haven't won back-to-back road games on consecutive nights since December 1st and 2nd, 2010 when they beat Toronto and Montreal. Dubnyk beat the Habs 4-3 and the next night Nikolai Khabibulin shutout the Leafs 5-0.

Last night was Bryzgalov's first NHL start since April 25th, a span of 217 days, so he's likely a bit fatigued.

Eric T from NHLnumbers.com and Broadstreethockey wrote this piece about why you shouldn't play goalies on back-to-back nights.

He compared goalies who played on consecutive nights to goalies who played on one day's rest. Goalies playing on back-to-back nights, who usually are the starters for their respective team, see a significant dip in their SV%.

I understand that Eric's numbers are just guidelines and Eakins will go with his gut instinct, he's decided to start Bryzgalov, but considering how hard it is for Edmonton to win road games on consecutive nights, starting Dubnyk isn't as outlandish as you might think.

Dubnyk has played much better recently, he shutout Columbus ten days ago, and for the first time in a long time the Oilers are healthy and have competition for icetime throughout the lineup. This team needs some internal competition, and when I take into account Bryzgalov's recent lack of recent playing time, potential fatigue and the Oilers history on back-to-back nights, I'd lean towards starting Dubnyk tonight and going back to Bryzgalov on Sunday in Dallas.

Eakins doesn't like to mess with a winning lineup, and you could easily argue why starting Bryzgalov tonight is the right decision as well.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-Gagner-Hemsky
Smyth-Gordon-Perron
Jones-Arcobello-Joensuu

Ference-Petry
Grebeshkov-J.Schultz
Belov-N.Schultz

Bryzgalov

No need to change any forwards or D-men. Eakins was able to roll four lines last night due to the solid play of the 4th line, but also because the Oilers were protecting a lead. I'm not sure we will see many games where the difference in icetime from the top forward, David Perron 18:29, to the lowest, Ryan Jones 11:12, is only seven minutes.

Eakins was able to rest his top forwards, Hall played 17:12 while Eberle played 15:45, so they shouldn't have heavy legs tonight in Columbus.

QUICK HITS....

  • It is interesting how people's attitudes and thoughts change after a win. The Oilers won and no one was ripping Eakins for only playing Nail Yakupov 12:54. Earlier in the season after another loss many fans were livid that Yakupov was only playing 14 or 15 minutes. Winning cures almost everything, and it sure would be a refreshing change to discuss more victories than losses.
     
  • The 4th line played very well last night, but it was only one game. I need to see how Eakins will use his bench in tie games or when his team is trailing. I suspect it will be much different, but Jones and Arcobello, not surprisingly, were flying.
     
  • The Blue Jackets have been wildly inconsistent the past few games. Over their last six games they won 4-1, lost 7-0, won 2-1, lost 6-2, won 6-0 and lost 4-0. That is why betting on hockey is extremely painful for me.
     
  • Since the Blue Jackets entered the NHL, the Oilers have dominated them to the tune of 29-10-3-5, and they are a respectable 10-6-3-4 in Columbus. Most of the Oilers love playing the Blue Jackets:

    Nugent-Hopkins: 1 goal and 11 points in 7 games.
    Hall: 4 goals and 12 points in 9 games.
    Eberle: 6 goals and 12 points in 10 games.
    Hemsky: 14 goals and 39 points in 33 games.
    Smyth: 19 goals and 47 points in 46 games.
    Gagner: Eight goals and 21 points in 23 games.
    Jones: 6 goals and 13 points in 17 games. Most career points vs. any NHL team.
    Perron: 11 goals and 25 points in 29 games. Most career points vs. any NHL team.
     
  • The Oilers are at the midway point of the "easiest" stretch of their schedule. The Oilers had an 11 game stretch where they play CGY, CBJ, FLO, CHIC, NSH, CBJ, DALL, PHO, COL, CGY AND CAR. The Oilers are 4-1 thus far, and if they want to climb out of the basement in the western conference and get to where they don't need binoculars to see Minnesota or Vancouver's point totals, they need to go at least 4-2 in the remaining six games.
     
  • Eberle has 12 points in his last 11 games. He had 10 points in his first 10 games. In between those streaks he went five games without a point. If he stays healthy, don't be surprised to see him reach the 70-point mark again.
     
  • Hall has 19 points in 19 games, and he has 56 games to play. He should surpass 70 points as well.
     
  • Nugent-Hopkins has 20 points in 24 games. He'd be on pace for 66 points, but with a slight increase in production he could reach 70 as well.
     
  • The last time the Oilers had two 70-point players was in 2005/2006. Hemsky had 77, while Shawn Horcoff had 73. Jarret Stoll had 68 points that season.
     
  • If Eberle reaches the 70-point mark he'll become the 9th player in Oiler history to have multiple 70-point seasons.

    Jari Kurri had 10.
    Wayne Gretzky had 9, but 137 points was his lowest total. Sick
    Mark Messier had 8.
    Glenn Anderson had 8.
    Doug Weight had 6.
    Paul Coffey had 5.
    Esa Tikkanen had 3.
    Ales Hemsky had 2.

    Twelve players have done it once: Jimmy Carson (100), Blair MacDonald (94) Vincent Damphousse (89), Mike Krushelynski (88), Joe Murphy (82), Craig Simpson (76), Eberle (76), (Ken Linseman (75), Dave Lumley (74), Horcoff (73), Zdeno Ciger and Ryan Smyth (70). 

MIRROR, MIRROR...

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Despite bucking the odds and playing Bryzgalov, Eakins looks smart and the Oilers pick up their 30th victory over the Blue Jackets by a 4-1 score.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: RNH, Hall and Eberle combine on a first period goal.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Denis Grebeshkov decides to give Wanye and Oilersnation a late 6th birthday present. Grebeshkov is the only player Wanye ever picked as his GOAT two years in a row, and after learning he wasn't Wanye's GOAT for a 3rd time, Grebeshkov repays Wanye by scoring his first goal of the season. It is also his 2nd career against the Blue Jackets, which ties his career high for goals vs. one team.

DAY TWO...MONTH OF GIVING...

We had an excellent first day. Yesterday we raised $7,000 thanks to Brad's bid and the fine folks at Petersen Buick GMC for donating a one-year lease on a 2014 GMC Sierra.

Today's package includes....

You can bid by calling 780.444.1260 or 1.800.243.1945. All the proceeds will go to Santas Anonymous. Thanks in advance to all of those who make a bid.

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#51 Rod from Viking
November 29 2013, 07:39PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Pathetic effort tonight. I wish Hemsky was called out once in a while by his coach, or his teammates.

I haven't heard Eakins say we could use more Hemsky's since game #2, I would bet KHL is in his future.

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#52 Will
November 29 2013, 02:13PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Oilers recalled Grebs because 4 Russians is always better than 3 Russians.

MORE RUSSIANS!!!!!

We should have drafted Nichuskin, picked up Antripov before he bolted to Russia, then had a Canadian line and a Russian line.

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#53 Arius Mumin
November 29 2013, 07:23PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

This effort tonight looks weak. Skate hard all you want. I'm sick of them shying away from contact and the tough areas of the ice.

Get into it, get mean. They look anemic. Feed them a bowl of blood in the 2nd intermission.

Who is "them"? Hemsky's multiple personalities?

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#54 OilCanFan
November 29 2013, 11:20AM
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"The Oilers won and no one was ripping Eakins for only playing Nail Yakupov 12:54. Earlier in the season after another loss many fans were livid that Yakupov was only playing 14 or 15 minutes. Winning cures almost everything, and it sure would be a refreshing change to discuss more victories than losses" - Jason Gregor

I won't rip him because I think the reason Yakupov only played that amount was due to the Arcobello line seeing more ice that the previous 4th lines. I will question why the Gordon/Smyth/Perron line was out more than than that and I think Gordon and Smyth should have had less ice time then they did. A lot of players had lower TOI than usual like Eberle playing less that Smyth which to me is wrong. Before you give the argument about LW vs. RW, Perron could play either.

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#55 Lil Breezy
November 29 2013, 11:22AM
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Well, let's see if lil' Breezy can repeat his performance.

If he does, I challenge Wanye to start a new poster contest for Lil' Breezy.

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#56 Johnnydapunk
November 29 2013, 11:58AM
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I'm kind of torn about who would best be the one to start. The thing that Bryz seemed to have brought with him, is a sense of control that the Oil played when he was in net. Again it's one and a half games he has played so not much can be read from that, but it feels like when Dubnyk is in net the Oil play a bit more panic-y if that makes any sense.

It will be interesting what Dubnyk's mind is like now, I still question his mental strength and with Bryz pulling off a shutout in his first game and getting a decent number of shots as well, I don't think that Dubnyk has the confidence to "fight" and his play will suffer as a result. Time will tell I guess.

I guess if I was Eakins, I would give Bryz the right of first refusal, ask him how he feels, if he feels good and has no signs of being tired or sore, then go with him as the fear I would have is that he gets an injury from going full power too fast.

Guess we have to see which Columbus shows up, the one who underestimated the Oil and got spanked, or the one who did the spanking. It should be a good game nonetheless.

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#57 TayLordBalls
November 29 2013, 12:27PM
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if Dubnyk is put in tonight, he'll be playing for his job.

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#58 mayorblaine
November 29 2013, 12:33PM
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Will wrote:

To everyone upset about people jumping on the Bryz 'bandwagon', after our goalies let us down at the beginning of the year, I don't think it's a bandwagon people are jumping on when the replacement gets a 33 shot shut out in his first start. It's more like a sigh of relief. Sure it's just one game, but the guy got a shut out on 33 saves. It is a big deal, especially on this team.

without question goaltending, particularly Dubnyk, was shakey at best in the beginning of the season. in saying that, you know our problems were never that one dimensional?

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#59 Pouzar99
November 29 2013, 01:45PM
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Stay calm folks. Who knows which CBJ team we will play tonight? The guys we waxed 7-0 or the ones who walked into Toronto and pasted the Leafs 6-0. If they have any pride they will be looking for redemption. We have a good shot at this one, and a win would be great, but temper your expectations. If the boys play well and win we might be on the move a bit. IF.

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#60 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 01:46PM
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pkam wrote:

Tell me how many soft goals Dubnyk let in in the last 4 games. Dubnyk's career SV% is 0.911. If he lets in more soft goals, then he has to make more saves to keep his SV% at average level. And he has to do it behind a terrible defense group.

And Bryz's .887 SV% was behind a better Philly defense group (not great but better than the Oilers defense group), and with some of the players that the fans here want to acquire to upgrade our defense.

That last four games includes the game Dubnyk allowed four goals on only 14 shots and got pulled.

You can believe Dubnyk is the answer moving forward here.I don't and neither does the GM.

IMO they will pick up one of Hiller , Halak or Elliott this summer.

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#61 Bucknuck
November 29 2013, 01:50PM
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pkam wrote:

I don't think anyone debate for Dubnyk in his first 5-6 games.

But if you compare our last two games (the Hawks and the Preds), we played much better last night. How many of those quality scoring chances that we gave to the Hawks happened last night?

One question, do you think the result will be different if we swap the goalies in these two games?

Some of those 33 saves Bryz made were on point blank shots from the slot. He had some great poke checks, and didn't allow himself to get beat. He was stellar. He was the difference.

Dubnyk has not been playing at that level much this year, so I actually don't think the Oil would have had a Win if Dubnyk had been in net.

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#62 Arius Mumin
November 29 2013, 02:00PM
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@GREGOR

Why is that interesting to you? When I read the first sentence-I thought you was onto something.

When Oilers win the negativity takes a long nap, just like that DSF thing.

Eakins ego spoke about accountability, so at times when it Eakins loses his senses , he acts on it. If you recall the turnover against the Hawks on the PP, Yakupov was the last Oiler to try to play the puck before Toews scored. Eakins ego struck and it gave Schultz Yak's PP time. Last night's PPs would account for about another minute or two of Yak's playing time. It is not a big deal.

Since Schultz didn't gel with the 1st PP unit last night, Egins will put Yak back in and go with the 5man PP. OGDP; Yak will score while on the PP.

Put the Yak BS aside. You had nothing to say about Yak so you went at a few of his loyalists. Oh Sweet Valley High.!

Why not discuss if it should be Yak or Schultz on the 1st PP unit? Or something like that, anything like that. Something interesting.

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#63 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 02:38PM
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pkam wrote:

Elliot is way worse than Dubnyk.

In his 3 year with the Blues, his SV% is .940, .907, and .932 so far this year.

And his career SV% is only .910, it is skewed heavily in favor by the great defensive system by Ken Hitchcock.

Just ask a Sens fan if you want to know about Elliot. I am sure they will rather have Dubnyk over him.

Dubnyk faces a lot of low percentage shots from bad angles and long range..Coaches tell their teams to shot from anywhere against him.

Save percentage is not the end all when looking at how good a goalie is.

Personally I prefer a clutch goalie who makes the big save when needed.Something Dubnyk has never done on a consistent basis.

Big saves lift teams soft goals deflate teams.A goalie who constantly lets in weak goals wears on a team.They try to hard to block everything scared to let a shot through.Anyone who has ever played hockey will tell you that.

Teams will try to win one for the goalie if he steals them games then lets in a bad goal.If the team constantly fights back to get close in games then the goalie lets in a soft one.You get what happened the first 20 games this year.A lost season.

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#64 HardBoiledOil
November 29 2013, 03:10PM
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guyz....if Bryz plays well the rest of this season, he'll be the #1 goalie they've been looking for, and he'll earn himself a good paying, 3 or 4 year contract and they can stop searching.

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#65 Arius Mumin
November 29 2013, 07:03PM
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bulldog12 wrote:

Not to worry Oiler fans. Hemsky is going to display his skill, grit, heart, veteran savvy and leadership to show these young kids how to come back and win games. Yeah you bet, a non factor again.

Go play with your non factor.!..

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#66 Arius Mumin
November 29 2013, 07:22PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Pathetic effort tonight. I wish Hemsky was called out once in a while by his coach, or his teammates.

Hopefully Santa sees you as one of the nice bunch and grants you your wish this holiday season.

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#67 Ari Gold
November 29 2013, 07:31PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Who is "them"? Hemsky's multiple personalities?

Yeah. Lazy, lethargic, somnolent and all-star.

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#68 GK1980
November 29 2013, 10:52PM
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I often watch you tube videos of past oilers teams and the 2006 playoff run. what a feeling watching that tema sicceed like they did. Will this team EVER get tp that level? It's sad its the only enjoyment I get with regards to the Oilers. Watching past highlights. The 2006 playoff run still gives me shivers. When is the last time any of us felt like this since that run? I guess we just got to hold on and hope MacT has a plan and knows that the heck he is doing.

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#69 camdog
November 29 2013, 11:26PM
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@Old School G

LW - Hall, Perron RW - Yakopov, Eberle

Gags at 5 million on the third line is a lot of cap.

I was looking at the TSn Fantasy Rankings RNH is 32, of course there are some ahead that are worse but many behind that are overall better players. He's not a top 30 centre right now, there are alot of really good centers in this league.

On a side note Cullen's fantasy numbers have Smyth with a higher fantasy rating then Hemsky. If Smyth can maintain his checking role he might bring more in trade value at the deadine as a 4th line winger, then Hemsky at his cap hit.

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#70 A-Mc
November 29 2013, 10:35AM
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I thought Bryz was good but a little shakey. It's normal for a 1st game to be a little off, but somehow he came out with the ShutOut.

I think Dubnyk is the better, more consistent goalie (for better or worse), but i think Bryz has the greater potential to steal you games on any given night. Basically, my thoughts are that Bryz will either be fantastic, or stink. Nothing in between. Duby will always let in the softy, but he can be the more consistent ~3GAA option of the two.

i dont know who should start but you have to reward a SO if Bryz feels good..

BRYZ LIGHTYEAR TO THE RESCUE

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#71 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 29 2013, 12:18PM
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Breezy-G, keep it filthy!

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#72 HardBoiledOil
November 29 2013, 12:27PM
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play Bryz again!! it's not like he's played a lot this season....he should still be fresh.

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#73 camdog
November 29 2013, 12:29PM
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Spydyr wrote:

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Bryzy starts.Oilers win.Dubnyk sits on the bench and contemplates which team he will sign with next year.....as a back-up.

If Bryzgalof plays well for the remainder of the season do you really think he signs a long term contract to stay in the North Pole?

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#74 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 01:04PM
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Dennis wrote:

Bryz is in net as per the Oilers twitter.

Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 1h Coach Eakins discusses going back to Bryzgalov in net, as well as tonight's #Oilers matchup with #CBJ | VIDEO > http://ow.ly/riOFo

Sweet...is it 5pm yet?

Been a while since I looked forward to an Oiler game this much. Winning 4 of 5 will do that to a guy.

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#75 pkam
November 29 2013, 01:22PM
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Spydyr wrote:

No, every goalie lets in weak goals. Dubnyk just lets in one every four or so periods.That is way too much.I would like to compare Dubnyk's playoff performance to Bryz's but Dubnyk has never played in the playoffs in the NHL.

In case you have not noticed it is not 2012 anymore and Bryz is playing for his NHL life.He needs to do well to get a contract next year.That is what is known as motivation.

Tell me how many soft goals Dubnyk let in in the last 4 games. Dubnyk's career SV% is 0.911. If he lets in more soft goals, then he has to make more saves to keep his SV% at average level. And he has to do it behind a terrible defense group.

And Bryz's .887 SV% was behind a better Philly defense group (not great but better than the Oilers defense group), and with some of the players that the fans here want to acquire to upgrade our defense.

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#76 Arius Mumin
November 29 2013, 02:04PM
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Oilers recalled Grebs because 4 Russians is always better than 3 Russians.

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#77 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 02:15PM
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pkam wrote:

Out of the 3 goalie you mention, only Halak is an upgrade to Dubnyk. Hiller is on par with Dubnyk, and Elliot is a downgrade.

In your opinion.

IMO you are way over rating Dubnyk.

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#78 pkam
November 29 2013, 02:18PM
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Spydyr wrote:

So just like Dubnyk then?

Elliot is way worse than Dubnyk.

In his 3 year with the Blues, his SV% is .940, .907, and .932 so far this year.

And his career SV% is only .910, it is skewed heavily in favor by the great defensive system by Ken Hitchcock.

Just ask a Sens fan if you want to know about Elliot. I am sure they will rather have Dubnyk over him.

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#79 Spurzey
November 29 2013, 02:25PM
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Do not sign that nutball of a goalie..Bryzgalov. He will never play here. He doesn't like the weather. Look how well he played in Philly. They liked him so much they bought him out, etc, etc, etc.

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#80 A-Mc
November 29 2013, 02:36PM
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Brian Elliot has let in 4 goals on 11 shots in this SJ/STL game.. and it's only the 1st period.

Tough night

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#81 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 02:39PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Brian Elliot has let in 4 goals on 11 shots in this SJ/STL game.. and it's only the 1st period.

Tough night

Ouch

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#82 pkam
November 29 2013, 02:40PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Some of those 33 saves Bryz made were on point blank shots from the slot. He had some great poke checks, and didn't allow himself to get beat. He was stellar. He was the difference.

Dubnyk has not been playing at that level much this year, so I actually don't think the Oil would have had a Win if Dubnyk had been in net.

None of the saves that Bryz made last night were as difficult as those Dubnyk allowed in Chicago game. Not saying that Bryz couldn't save any of the 4 that Dubnhk allowed, but very unlikely.

Can Dubnyk made those saves last night if he was in net? I believe so. He is playing pretty good lately. I was in the Dallas game and he was really good.

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#83 S cottV
November 29 2013, 03:29PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

If you noticed I referenced Yak's icetime earlier in the year, not the two recent games where they used 5 fwds on the PP...

The point was that when you win, no one cares about minutes of a player. When they lose people want to find things to blame for the loss, and I used Yak's early season icetime.

You don't use 5 fwds on the PP long term, so it is a no-brainer to have Schultz on the first unit. It has nothing to do with Eakins ego.

Eakins wants a D-man on his PP, not five forwards. It is pretty simple and straight forward. There is no drama involved in it.

Amen... 5 forwards on that PP vs Chicago in the early part of the 1st period was so dumb - Eakins deserved to get it rammed up where the sun dont shine. 5 forwards on a PP once in a blue moon - maybe, but playing with fire and that was not the blue moon moment. Made a rookie coach look even more like a rookie coach.

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#84 HardBoiledOil
November 29 2013, 03:51PM
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OilCanFan wrote:

And there is a chance it will be somewhere else

i know he's said some less than flattering things about Edmonton in the past, but i'm not convinced that if he plays well the rest of the season he'll necessarily sign a new contract elsewhere.

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#85 bwar
November 29 2013, 04:32PM
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Gonna call it right now. Bryz doesn't let in another goal for the rest of the season.

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#86 Arius Mumin
November 29 2013, 07:37PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Yeah. Lazy, lethargic, somnolent and all-star.

Says a lot about the NHL, eh? Keeping in mind that he is not even one of the top forwards on the Oilers roster. Don't forget enigmatic as well, for both Hemsky and the NHL.

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#87 GK1980
November 29 2013, 10:54PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

The funniest thing I have heard in eons was on Gregor's show today. Recounting Oilers who are top-10 at their position.

He said Hall (Taylor Hall, who has 7 goals)...okay. I'll go in with that I guess. Barely.

The funny part was the long hesitation for Nugent-Hopkins, long long pause, after which he decided that no, RNH is not there yet.

I almost drove in the ditch.

RNH is not a top 30 centre in the NHL. Maybe not top 50.

And he's our 'star first line centre' - maybe that's part of the problem, ya think?

That's what I have mentioned before. We draft these forst overall and "assume" they will be legite NHL stars. This is a huge mistake. The NHL is vastly diffeent then ripping up juniors. Tambellini thought this was the answer, we always need a legitimate top 6 with experiance. throwing the kids in to the fire and assuming they could carry this team is a mistake. the kids needed proper top 6 mentoring, "Top Six" mentoring.

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#88 Robin Brownlee
November 29 2013, 11:33PM
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@Zamboni Driver

-- Twenty centres have more points than RNH so far this season.

-- In 2012-13, RNH played 40 of 48 games. 55 centres had more points.

-- In 2011-12, RNH played in just 62 of 82 games. He finished 32nd in scoring among centres as a rookie.

-- RNH is 20 years old. He has done this on lousy teams. Still a lot of work to do, notably on face-offs, but probably fair to say that just out of his teens, he's a work in progress and there's room for improvement.

I don't see RNH in the top-10 and I don't think NHL GMs would either, if you polled them. I'm also confident the majority would put him in the 15-25th range. Not a lock, but certainly in the conversation.

None of what was said today in the comment you cite strikes me as the funniest thing "in eons." And you almost drove in the ditch? My. Maybe not top 50, eh?

Now, that's funny.

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#89 Dubs-nik
November 29 2013, 12:28PM
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Will wrote:

To everyone upset about people jumping on the Bryz 'bandwagon', after our goalies let us down at the beginning of the year, I don't think it's a bandwagon people are jumping on when the replacement gets a 33 shot shut out in his first start. It's more like a sigh of relief. Sure it's just one game, but the guy got a shut out on 33 saves. It is a big deal, especially on this team.

Bachman?

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#90 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 12:59PM
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Blucifer Copperballs wrote:

Oiler fans are the worst. Bryz has a good game and everyone is calling for Dube's head. No wonder most athletes dont want to come play here.

Bryz had a good game. Dube's numbers from previous years have him as a contendor for a starters job.

Can't we fans just be happy that maybe we are in a place that as long as the team plays well, we have two goalies that can keep them in it and give them a chance to win? Does anybody on here really blame the goalies for the year the Oil have had so far?

I would start Dubnyk tonight. If we were at home and didn't have to travel, i'd say put Bryz back in, but back to backs on the road when you don't have to?

Go lights out again, Bryz. Make me wrong.

Some of us have not been Dubnyk fans for years now.

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#91 Dennis
November 29 2013, 01:00PM
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Bryz is in net as per the Oilers twitter.

Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 1h Coach Eakins discusses going back to Bryzgalov in net, as well as tonight's #Oilers matchup with #CBJ | VIDEO > http://ow.ly/riOFo

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#92 Raine
November 29 2013, 01:28PM
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Clarko wrote:

It's one game dude. I was also impressed with Bryz, but I would say the evaluation on the goaltending situation needs to be longer than ONE start.

What impressed me even more was that the Oilers gave up very few high quality scoring chances. There weren't any wide open Predators roaming the slot with no Oilers within 10 feet of them. If they can continue that kind of defensive play, that will go a long way to improving their record.

Disagree. The Oilers gave up quite a few good quality scoring chances and the one timer from the slotnwas present again. Not nearly as bad as say the first dozen games but plenty of good shots came Bryzgalovs way. Bryz played cool, calm and collective and these chances looked a lot less significant as past games. I'm not all on the Bryz band wagon but he played fantastic last night.

Like you say, one game. But don't let good goaltending over shadow the chances the Oilers allowed.

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November 29 2013, 03:41PM
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Statistically, we're talking about the difference between Lundqvist and Theodore or Price and Garon.

If my back-up was Theodore or Garon I'd probably go with the tired starter just to keep him happy.

This is Bryz's 2nd start of the year. With his layoff I have more concerns about his fitness level to go back to back.

I'd also take into account how the team feels and plays when each G is in net. Dubnyk was letting in beach balls early in the season and has let in some weak G at key moments. That creates doubt.

Bryz might not be a better option but he hasn't accumulated any barnacles yet either. The team might play with more confidence with Bryz in net simply because he hasn't dropped the ball yet.

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RNH is going to be a very, very good centre for many years but he needs to gain at least 10 lbs of muscle so that he can impose his physical will and be able to protect the puck better.

You cant' teach smart and this kid has all sorts of this.......you can add size and when this kid has that going for him he will be a clone of Datysuk.

The second line centre has to be discussed as well as defense but not the NUGE!

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#97 Arius Mumin
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@Robin Brownlee

Is there another option for the fan other than wait?

What ropes need to be shown to the best players?

How many more guys like Perron do you have in mind? How many more do you believe they need?

Remember Horcoff? I was convinced by the MSM on Horcoff's leadership qualities and his purpose of mentorship. Smyth is still here and he gets PP time, that says something. What exactly is Ryan Jones purpose? I'm pretty sure he should able to show them a thing or two-he has been here forever with them.

I won't bring Gagner into this.

Ference was brought in to show them the ropes as well, no? I'm pretty sure he can show some ropes if need be. N.Schultz is a veteran and Petry has been here for a while as well. Smid was a warrior on most nights.

I do not believe any ropes need showing.

Who ropes do you believe need showing and to whom?

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#98 Wax Man Riley
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Breezy-G, keep it filthy!

I prefer Bryz Lightyear or iBryz

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#99 Spydyr
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pkam wrote:

Only Dubnyk let in weak goals and no other goalies do?

Bryz is so much better than Dubnyk? Did you watch the playoff between the Pens and Flyers in 2012? I guess 0.887 SV% and 3.46 GA in 11 games is so much better than Dubnyk's start this year.

I really hope Bryz will ever play like that again. At least not as an Oilers.

No, every goalie lets in weak goals. Dubnyk just lets in one every four or so periods.That is way too much.I would like to compare Dubnyk's playoff performance to Bryz's but Dubnyk has never played in the playoffs in the NHL.

In case you have not noticed it is not 2012 anymore and Bryz is playing for his NHL life.He needs to do well to get a contract next year.That is what is known as motivation.

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#100 Spydyr
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camdog wrote:

If Bryzgalof plays well for the remainder of the season do you really think he signs a long term contract to stay in the North Pole?

No. I think they go for one of the other free agents goalies in the summer.

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