GDB 27.0: BACK-TO-BACK?

Jason Gregor
November 29 2013 10:14AM

Ilya Bryzgalov couldn't have written a better script. In his first start as an Oiler, Bryzgalov 33 shots and picked up his first win and first shutout. Brzygalov is the first goalie to register a shutout in his first game as an Oiler since Jussi Markannen did it in 2001.

Does Eakins go back-to-back with Brzygalov or should he play a rested Devan Dubnyk?

Before you start yelling and ferociously hitting your keyboard with insults that I'm an idiot for even asking the question, read on.

The Oilers haven't won back-to-back road games on consecutive nights since December 1st and 2nd, 2010 when they beat Toronto and Montreal. Dubnyk beat the Habs 4-3 and the next night Nikolai Khabibulin shutout the Leafs 5-0.

Last night was Bryzgalov's first NHL start since April 25th, a span of 217 days, so he's likely a bit fatigued.

Eric T from NHLnumbers.com and Broadstreethockey wrote this piece about why you shouldn't play goalies on back-to-back nights.

He compared goalies who played on consecutive nights to goalies who played on one day's rest. Goalies playing on back-to-back nights, who usually are the starters for their respective team, see a significant dip in their SV%.

I understand that Eric's numbers are just guidelines and Eakins will go with his gut instinct, he's decided to start Bryzgalov, but considering how hard it is for Edmonton to win road games on consecutive nights, starting Dubnyk isn't as outlandish as you might think.

Dubnyk has played much better recently, he shutout Columbus ten days ago, and for the first time in a long time the Oilers are healthy and have competition for icetime throughout the lineup. This team needs some internal competition, and when I take into account Bryzgalov's recent lack of recent playing time, potential fatigue and the Oilers history on back-to-back nights, I'd lean towards starting Dubnyk tonight and going back to Bryzgalov on Sunday in Dallas.

Eakins doesn't like to mess with a winning lineup, and you could easily argue why starting Bryzgalov tonight is the right decision as well.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-Gagner-Hemsky
Smyth-Gordon-Perron
Jones-Arcobello-Joensuu

Ference-Petry
Grebeshkov-J.Schultz
Belov-N.Schultz

Bryzgalov

No need to change any forwards or D-men. Eakins was able to roll four lines last night due to the solid play of the 4th line, but also because the Oilers were protecting a lead. I'm not sure we will see many games where the difference in icetime from the top forward, David Perron 18:29, to the lowest, Ryan Jones 11:12, is only seven minutes.

Eakins was able to rest his top forwards, Hall played 17:12 while Eberle played 15:45, so they shouldn't have heavy legs tonight in Columbus.

QUICK HITS....

  • It is interesting how people's attitudes and thoughts change after a win. The Oilers won and no one was ripping Eakins for only playing Nail Yakupov 12:54. Earlier in the season after another loss many fans were livid that Yakupov was only playing 14 or 15 minutes. Winning cures almost everything, and it sure would be a refreshing change to discuss more victories than losses.
     
  • The 4th line played very well last night, but it was only one game. I need to see how Eakins will use his bench in tie games or when his team is trailing. I suspect it will be much different, but Jones and Arcobello, not surprisingly, were flying.
     
  • The Blue Jackets have been wildly inconsistent the past few games. Over their last six games they won 4-1, lost 7-0, won 2-1, lost 6-2, won 6-0 and lost 4-0. That is why betting on hockey is extremely painful for me.
     
  • Since the Blue Jackets entered the NHL, the Oilers have dominated them to the tune of 29-10-3-5, and they are a respectable 10-6-3-4 in Columbus. Most of the Oilers love playing the Blue Jackets:

    Nugent-Hopkins: 1 goal and 11 points in 7 games.
    Hall: 4 goals and 12 points in 9 games.
    Eberle: 6 goals and 12 points in 10 games.
    Hemsky: 14 goals and 39 points in 33 games.
    Smyth: 19 goals and 47 points in 46 games.
    Gagner: Eight goals and 21 points in 23 games.
    Jones: 6 goals and 13 points in 17 games. Most career points vs. any NHL team.
    Perron: 11 goals and 25 points in 29 games. Most career points vs. any NHL team.
     
  • The Oilers are at the midway point of the "easiest" stretch of their schedule. The Oilers had an 11 game stretch where they play CGY, CBJ, FLO, CHIC, NSH, CBJ, DALL, PHO, COL, CGY AND CAR. The Oilers are 4-1 thus far, and if they want to climb out of the basement in the western conference and get to where they don't need binoculars to see Minnesota or Vancouver's point totals, they need to go at least 4-2 in the remaining six games.
     
  • Eberle has 12 points in his last 11 games. He had 10 points in his first 10 games. In between those streaks he went five games without a point. If he stays healthy, don't be surprised to see him reach the 70-point mark again.
     
  • Hall has 19 points in 19 games, and he has 56 games to play. He should surpass 70 points as well.
     
  • Nugent-Hopkins has 20 points in 24 games. He'd be on pace for 66 points, but with a slight increase in production he could reach 70 as well.
     
  • The last time the Oilers had two 70-point players was in 2005/2006. Hemsky had 77, while Shawn Horcoff had 73. Jarret Stoll had 68 points that season.
     
  • If Eberle reaches the 70-point mark he'll become the 9th player in Oiler history to have multiple 70-point seasons.

    Jari Kurri had 10.
    Wayne Gretzky had 9, but 137 points was his lowest total. Sick
    Mark Messier had 8.
    Glenn Anderson had 8.
    Doug Weight had 6.
    Paul Coffey had 5.
    Esa Tikkanen had 3.
    Ales Hemsky had 2.

    Twelve players have done it once: Jimmy Carson (100), Blair MacDonald (94) Vincent Damphousse (89), Mike Krushelynski (88), Joe Murphy (82), Craig Simpson (76), Eberle (76), (Ken Linseman (75), Dave Lumley (74), Horcoff (73), Zdeno Ciger and Ryan Smyth (70). 

MIRROR, MIRROR...

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Despite bucking the odds and playing Bryzgalov, Eakins looks smart and the Oilers pick up their 30th victory over the Blue Jackets by a 4-1 score.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: RNH, Hall and Eberle combine on a first period goal.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Denis Grebeshkov decides to give Wanye and Oilersnation a late 6th birthday present. Grebeshkov is the only player Wanye ever picked as his GOAT two years in a row, and after learning he wasn't Wanye's GOAT for a 3rd time, Grebeshkov repays Wanye by scoring his first goal of the season. It is also his 2nd career against the Blue Jackets, which ties his career high for goals vs. one team.

DAY TWO...MONTH OF GIVING...

We had an excellent first day. Yesterday we raised $7,000 thanks to Brad's bid and the fine folks at Petersen Buick GMC for donating a one-year lease on a 2014 GMC Sierra.

Today's package includes....

You can bid by calling 780.444.1260 or 1.800.243.1945. All the proceeds will go to Santas Anonymous. Thanks in advance to all of those who make a bid.

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#51 pkam
November 29 2013, 02:11PM
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Spydyr wrote:

That last four games includes the game Dubnyk allowed four goals on only 14 shots and got pulled.

You can believe Dubnyk is the answer moving forward here.I don't and neither does the GM.

IMO they will pick up one of Hiller , Halak or Elliott this summer.

Out of the 3 goalie you mention, only Halak is an upgrade to Dubnyk. Hiller is on par with Dubnyk, and Elliot is a downgrade.

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#52 pkam
November 29 2013, 02:18PM
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Spydyr wrote:

So just like Dubnyk then?

Elliot is way worse than Dubnyk.

In his 3 year with the Blues, his SV% is .940, .907, and .932 so far this year.

And his career SV% is only .910, it is skewed heavily in favor by the great defensive system by Ken Hitchcock.

Just ask a Sens fan if you want to know about Elliot. I am sure they will rather have Dubnyk over him.

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#54 bwar
November 29 2013, 04:32PM
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Gonna call it right now. Bryz doesn't let in another goal for the rest of the season.

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#55 Lofty
November 29 2013, 09:08PM
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Cynic wrote:

A better guess would be that Hemsky gets off-loaded at the deadline for a 5th rounder. If the Oiles are lucky.

But the safest bet is a season ending injury a couple days before the trade deadline.

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#56 Zamboni Driver
November 30 2013, 10:13AM
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So here's the part I don't get, Jason and Robin.

Yesterday on Jason's show (listened to the whole thing driving back from YYC...and you paused...anyway), Jason and Jason talking about "why do we keep talking about the fourth line??!"

Then someone come (I come) out and call into question two of the Holy Triumvirate and the heavy hitters here come running to their defense.

Here's what I know Robin stats-wise - I think about the 30 teams in the NHL that RNH would be the #1 TODAY (not in the future...now) - then factor in teams that have excellent #2 (SJ, Pitt, etc.) - I don't arrive at 5'10", 170 lbs 20 year old as anywhere near the top 10 - top 50 was hyperbole.

Jason, regarding Hall, you have said he's the only Oiler capable of taking over a game. I actually agree with that. My really serious question, exactly what is he waiting for to do this?

Lastly I'll throw this one out under the auspices of continually protecting the 'kids' (huge upside, etc. etc.) - Eakins said yesterday they were not in shape. Really think he was talking about Gazdic, Acton, and the guy with 11 'U's in his name?

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#57 Naky
November 30 2013, 11:54AM
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Team didn't play well again last night but not playing Dubnyk is a total rookie NHL coach mistake that's all on Eakins' shoulders. This is not the AHL, Mr. Eakins, no matter how much you want it to be. There are a handful of reasons why Bryz shouldn't have played the back to back and that's even if he had played right from training camp.

This is probably the third game this season that was winnable or could have been won if not for rookie level mistakes from Eakins like that game he pulled LBB and then sent him right back in on a 'gut feeling' or his other questionable lineup decisions early in the season.

His defense always seems to be that he goes with his 'gut feeling', except that his gut feeling is almost always the wrong decision when that hindsight is 20/20. Let logic and reason dictate some of your decisions and maybe some more things will go your way too. This guy's goalie management skills thus far has been brutal.

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#58 Dog Train
November 29 2013, 10:23AM
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I can't bet against Bryzgalov. 3-0 Mighty Oil. Arco, Perron and Belov with the goals.

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#59 Eightiesanyone?
November 29 2013, 10:44AM
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@A-Mc

I sincerely hope we've seen the last of Acton. How nice to put out a fourth line that can actually put some pressure on the other team rather than our defence/goaltenders.

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#60 Will
November 29 2013, 10:56AM
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Bryz was great last night, but so was the whole team. That was one of the most complete team efforts from the Oilers I saw all year. Their backchecking was tremendous last night. They looked like a different team. But, as it happens with the Oilers, playing like that again might not happen.

I predict the Gagner, Hemsky, Yak line will ignite tonight. With the Boyd Gordon line doing the hard work, and the top line being such a threat, that leaves the Gagner line to go and chew up some soft competition.

Hurray, it's kind of slightly nice to be an Oiler fan again. man that first part of the season was dark.

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#61 Harlie
November 29 2013, 10:59AM
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Gregor, it was nice to meet you this morning and I'm looking forward to my 2014 GMC Sierra! Best part of all is the money goes to charity and I get an incredibly low price lease for a year. Win win!!

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#62 nunyour
November 29 2013, 12:12PM
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It's nice to see a goalie that actually stands up in the net.

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#63 Wax Man Riley
November 29 2013, 12:27PM
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Bryz is a proven NHL goalie.

When wa the last time the Oil could say that?

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#64 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 01:04PM
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Dennis wrote:

Bryz is in net as per the Oilers twitter.

Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 1h Coach Eakins discusses going back to Bryzgalov in net, as well as tonight's #Oilers matchup with #CBJ | VIDEO > http://ow.ly/riOFo

Sweet...is it 5pm yet?

Been a while since I looked forward to an Oiler game this much. Winning 4 of 5 will do that to a guy.

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#65 pkam
November 29 2013, 01:22PM
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Spydyr wrote:

No, every goalie lets in weak goals. Dubnyk just lets in one every four or so periods.That is way too much.I would like to compare Dubnyk's playoff performance to Bryz's but Dubnyk has never played in the playoffs in the NHL.

In case you have not noticed it is not 2012 anymore and Bryz is playing for his NHL life.He needs to do well to get a contract next year.That is what is known as motivation.

Tell me how many soft goals Dubnyk let in in the last 4 games. Dubnyk's career SV% is 0.911. If he lets in more soft goals, then he has to make more saves to keep his SV% at average level. And he has to do it behind a terrible defense group.

And Bryz's .887 SV% was behind a better Philly defense group (not great but better than the Oilers defense group), and with some of the players that the fans here want to acquire to upgrade our defense.

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#66 Will
November 29 2013, 01:55PM
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mayorblaine wrote:

without question goaltending, particularly Dubnyk, was shakey at best in the beginning of the season. in saying that, you know our problems were never that one dimensional?

That is an interesting point which has certainly been debated at large. What's wrong with the Oilers? And it is true that the team as a whole just didn't show up for a few games: early one against Van, that horrendous showing against Detroit, and the even worse performance against the leafs.

However, there were so many games that the Oilers have lost 5-4, 6-5, etc. I mean, how many goals does the team need to score to get the win. Maybe that was the fault of the defence, or the 'swarm', or whatever, but when your forwards score 4, 5 or 6 goals in a night, a goalie needs to make that one big stop that will get the win, and Dubnyk / Labarbra, for a large majority of the first 20 games, could not do that.

That St. Louis game is a good example. A high scoring game, where the Blues tender made that one, huge stop minutes before the game ended to keep his team in it. A few minutes later, Dubnyk could not do the same, and the Blues tied it up and won in overtime I think.

Now, Dubnyk and the team are definitely coming around, but looking at the improvement in shots, possession, chances, and face off wins over last year, I am kind of stumped to explain all those early losses on anything else other than atrocious goal tending.

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#67 Will
November 29 2013, 02:13PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Oilers recalled Grebs because 4 Russians is always better than 3 Russians.

MORE RUSSIANS!!!!!

We should have drafted Nichuskin, picked up Antripov before he bolted to Russia, then had a Canadian line and a Russian line.

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#68 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 02:39PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Brian Elliot has let in 4 goals on 11 shots in this SJ/STL game.. and it's only the 1st period.

Tough night

Ouch

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#69 pkam
November 29 2013, 02:40PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

Some of those 33 saves Bryz made were on point blank shots from the slot. He had some great poke checks, and didn't allow himself to get beat. He was stellar. He was the difference.

Dubnyk has not been playing at that level much this year, so I actually don't think the Oil would have had a Win if Dubnyk had been in net.

None of the saves that Bryz made last night were as difficult as those Dubnyk allowed in Chicago game. Not saying that Bryz couldn't save any of the 4 that Dubnhk allowed, but very unlikely.

Can Dubnyk made those saves last night if he was in net? I believe so. He is playing pretty good lately. I was in the Dallas game and he was really good.

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#70 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 03:12PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

guyz....if Bryz plays well the rest of this season, he'll be the #1 goalie they've been looking for, and he'll earn himself a good paying, 3 or 4 year contract and they can stop searching.

If he plays well I'm not sure he will want to sign here long term.It is the north pole and all.

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#71 rob
November 29 2013, 03:15PM
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pkam wrote:

Out of the 3 goalie you mention, only Halak is an upgrade to Dubnyk. Hiller is on par with Dubnyk, and Elliot is a downgrade.

The big kid from mighty ducks movies are an upgrade on Dubnyk,wonder what hes doing now............

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#72 Mikey
November 29 2013, 05:16PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Ya my thoughts exactly.

If Bryz can be a true #1 here for us, i think the city of Edmonton, and the Oilers, would really embrace Bryzgalov's quirky nature. I actually like him MORE because he shows character: nothing bothers me more than parrot hockey players that can't think or speak for themselves.

If things go well and Bryz sees that this city will embrace him and let him be himself, i think he'd have to strongly consider signing here for a while.

Lets face it, just because he plays for the Oilers doesn't mean he's stuck here in Edmonton. If he's a warmer climate kind of guy, he can still have homes elsewhere. His riches have afford him the luxury to have several homes and the means to fly him and his family back and forth as much as he sees fit.

ALSO, he's from Russia. It's not exactly tropical in Russia. If the -32 is what scares his family away, they could always live here for 10 months of the year and head south for the remaining 2: NO BIGGY!

TLDR: rich people make things work because they have the means to. If Bryz likes it here because we accept him, he'll find a way to stay.

I think you have severly over estimated how rich he is. Or how expensive flying around the world when you ever you feel like is.

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#73 Bucknuck
November 29 2013, 05:27PM
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pkam wrote:

None of the saves that Bryz made last night were as difficult as those Dubnyk allowed in Chicago game. Not saying that Bryz couldn't save any of the 4 that Dubnhk allowed, but very unlikely.

Can Dubnyk made those saves last night if he was in net? I believe so. He is playing pretty good lately. I was in the Dallas game and he was really good.

I don't think you were watching the same game, or perhaps Bryzgalov just made the saves look easy. When was the last time Dubnyk had a shutout where the opposing team had over 30 shots?

Bryzgalov wouldn't have made a difference in the Chicago game. Despite what eakins said after the game, it was obvious to me that the Oil were outmatched. Goatending can't save you when your forwards can only score one goal.

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#74 YFC Prez
November 29 2013, 06:12PM
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I really like that behind the net camera angle on the pp. I wish they would do that more often.

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#75 LoweBlow
November 29 2013, 06:40PM
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This effort tonight looks weak. Skate hard all you want. I'm sick of them shying away from contact and the tough areas of the ice.

Get into it, get mean. They look anemic. Feed them a bowl of blood in the 2nd intermission.

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#76 camdog
November 29 2013, 11:26PM
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@Old School G

LW - Hall, Perron RW - Yakopov, Eberle

Gags at 5 million on the third line is a lot of cap.

I was looking at the TSn Fantasy Rankings RNH is 32, of course there are some ahead that are worse but many behind that are overall better players. He's not a top 30 centre right now, there are alot of really good centers in this league.

On a side note Cullen's fantasy numbers have Smyth with a higher fantasy rating then Hemsky. If Smyth can maintain his checking role he might bring more in trade value at the deadine as a 4th line winger, then Hemsky at his cap hit.

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#77 Stack Pad Save
November 30 2013, 07:33AM
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@Gregor

Glad to see your up early on the weekend, my kids woke me up 30minutes ago. Best thing is my wife is still sleeping, so I can have breakfast with the kids. Little does she know that we are having syrup on waffles today, love kid food. There are some perks to being a parent, and eating their left overs is one of them.

I am wondering if anyone asked Eakins why he put 2 forwards out on a 5 on 3, especially for the second shift. DId he not watch and recognize that the single D-man down low got dominated in the crease area? I thought that section of the game was the turning point and where Eakins should have used a timeout to calm his team. I know that at the start of the 5 on 3 Columbus took a timeout, but Eakins could have used his to let his best defensive players rest.

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#78 TayLordBalls
November 29 2013, 10:25AM
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change is imminent !

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#79 Danger Pay
November 29 2013, 11:02AM
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The whole Universe is really into Bryzgalov at the moment!

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#80 A-Mc
November 29 2013, 11:05AM
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Eightiesanyone? wrote:

I sincerely hope we've seen the last of Acton. How nice to put out a fourth line that can actually put some pressure on the other team rather than our defence/goaltenders.

Agreed. I thought they played really well.

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#81 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 29 2013, 12:18PM
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Breezy-G, keep it filthy!

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#82 Wax Man Riley
November 29 2013, 12:28PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Breezy-G, keep it filthy!

I prefer Bryz Lightyear or iBryz

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#83 Dubs-nik
November 29 2013, 12:28PM
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Will wrote:

To everyone upset about people jumping on the Bryz 'bandwagon', after our goalies let us down at the beginning of the year, I don't think it's a bandwagon people are jumping on when the replacement gets a 33 shot shut out in his first start. It's more like a sigh of relief. Sure it's just one game, but the guy got a shut out on 33 saves. It is a big deal, especially on this team.

Bachman?

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#84 HardBoiledOil
November 29 2013, 12:29PM
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nunyour wrote:

It's nice to see a goalie that actually stands up in the net.

ya, really! doesn't go down as much as Dubnyk and appears to be a little quicker in goal. nice to see an actuall NHL starter playing goal for us....unless he sucks tonight....then he's a bum! ;-P

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#85 Spydyr
November 29 2013, 12:37PM
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camdog wrote:

If Bryzgalof plays well for the remainder of the season do you really think he signs a long term contract to stay in the North Pole?

No. I think they go for one of the other free agents goalies in the summer.

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#86 The Funky Chicken Has Left The Building
November 29 2013, 01:16PM
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Play Bryzgalof til wheel come off traktor!!

Dubnyks been given every chance by the Oilers to become their #1....he simply is not good enough.

There's a 2 pad stacking fool on every street corner in Finland...Oilers should scoop one to play goal in Edmonton.

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#87 Lochenzo
November 29 2013, 01:27PM
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An argument in favour of Dubnyk is that he got the shutout against CBJ last time.

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#88 pkam
November 29 2013, 01:35PM
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No reason we can't win tonight.

If both teams are healthy, we are still a slightly better team than the BJ on paper. Now they have 3 of their top 6 out of the lineup and we are completely healthy, how can we possibly lose to them?

Being said that, we better be ready the 1st minute cause they just beat the Leafs 6-0 several nights ago, and they definitely want to return the favor of that 7-0 embarrassment.

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#89 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 29 2013, 01:43PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I prefer Bryz Lightyear or iBryz

Easy, Bryzy, beautiful, cover-the-goal?

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#90 Greasy Goal
November 29 2013, 02:00PM
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Spydyr wrote:

That last four games includes the game Dubnyk allowed four goals on only 14 shots and got pulled.

You can believe Dubnyk is the answer moving forward here.I don't and neither does the GM.

IMO they will pick up one of Hiller , Halak or Elliott this summer.

I would not like to see Elliott here. He's an average goalie on one of the top 3 teams. He'd get chewed up and spit out here.

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#91 Lowe Expectations
November 29 2013, 02:31PM
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Gotta love the the goalie argument. I remember being told the two most popular athletes in Edmonton are the backup QB for the Eskimos and whichever goalie isn't playing for the Oilers.

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#92 OilCanFan
November 29 2013, 03:14PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

guyz....if Bryz plays well the rest of this season, he'll be the #1 goalie they've been looking for, and he'll earn himself a good paying, 3 or 4 year contract and they can stop searching.

And there is a chance it will be somewhere else

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#93 Zarny
November 29 2013, 03:41PM
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Statistically, we're talking about the difference between Lundqvist and Theodore or Price and Garon.

If my back-up was Theodore or Garon I'd probably go with the tired starter just to keep him happy.

This is Bryz's 2nd start of the year. With his layoff I have more concerns about his fitness level to go back to back.

I'd also take into account how the team feels and plays when each G is in net. Dubnyk was letting in beach balls early in the season and has let in some weak G at key moments. That creates doubt.

Bryz might not be a better option but he hasn't accumulated any barnacles yet either. The team might play with more confidence with Bryz in net simply because he hasn't dropped the ball yet.

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#94 A-Mc
November 29 2013, 04:09PM
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i know he's said some less than flattering things about Edmonton in the past, but i'm not convinced that if he plays well the rest of the season he'll necessarily sign a new contract elsewhere.

Ya my thoughts exactly.

If Bryz can be a true #1 here for us, i think the city of Edmonton, and the Oilers, would really embrace Bryzgalov's quirky nature. I actually like him MORE because he shows character: nothing bothers me more than parrot hockey players that can't think or speak for themselves.

If things go well and Bryz sees that this city will embrace him and let him be himself, i think he'd have to strongly consider signing here for a while.

Lets face it, just because he plays for the Oilers doesn't mean he's stuck here in Edmonton. If he's a warmer climate kind of guy, he can still have homes elsewhere. His riches have afford him the luxury to have several homes and the means to fly him and his family back and forth as much as he sees fit.

ALSO, he's from Russia. It's not exactly tropical in Russia. If the -32 is what scares his family away, they could always live here for 10 months of the year and head south for the remaining 2: NO BIGGY!

TLDR: rich people make things work because they have the means to. If Bryz likes it here because we accept him, he'll find a way to stay.

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#95 fantheoilman
November 29 2013, 04:33PM
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Just as long as Bryz doesnt do any commercials for the gas company i will be happy to see him sign a 2-3 year deal.

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#97 Naky
November 30 2013, 01:27PM
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@Clarko

So if Dubnyk had only let one goal in and the Oilers scored those two at the end, we win. We can debate what ifs all night long but the point is that the smarter decision was to play the fresh goaltender who's supposed to be our starter and who has also been playing some damned fine hockey for the past two or three weeks. Instead, we played the tired goalie who had seen a grand total of one NHL game in a period of 7 or 8 months.

The issue of how many goals we score is an entirely different one; I'm talking about the bad goaltending decision in the first place.

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#98 Robin Brownlee
November 30 2013, 01:48PM
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@Zamboni Driver

If you've followed me on Twitter then you know I'm completely on board with fans who are sick and tired of waiting for "pretty soon."

Part of the problem with the best players, and this is also nothing new, is management has not surrounded them with the proper cast of veterans -- more guys like Perron -- capable of sharing top six minutes and showing them the ropes.

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#99 Arius Mumin
November 30 2013, 02:52PM
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@Robin Brownlee

Is there another option for the fan other than wait?

What ropes need to be shown to the best players?

How many more guys like Perron do you have in mind? How many more do you believe they need?

Remember Horcoff? I was convinced by the MSM on Horcoff's leadership qualities and his purpose of mentorship. Smyth is still here and he gets PP time, that says something. What exactly is Ryan Jones purpose? I'm pretty sure he should able to show them a thing or two-he has been here forever with them.

I won't bring Gagner into this.

Ference was brought in to show them the ropes as well, no? I'm pretty sure he can show some ropes if need be. N.Schultz is a veteran and Petry has been here for a while as well. Smid was a warrior on most nights.

I do not believe any ropes need showing.

Who ropes do you believe need showing and to whom?

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#100 northof51
November 29 2013, 10:34AM
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Oh man it's good to feel good about the Oilers every once in a while.

*checks schedule to make sure nothing will interrupt Friday evening Oilers game... "Good, still empty"*

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