THE PLAN IS ON FIRE

Lowetide
November 03 2013 12:32PM

The Edmonton Oilers (MacT as GM edition) are 3-10-2 fifteen games in, and OilersNation has gone from anger to real disillusionment. Up next for the fanbase is indifference, but before they get there is there anything the GM can do?

 

  • Darcy Regier: "These GM jobs, they're good jobs. But waiting for a GM opportunity that's structured for success? I'm not sure it exists. When I was assessing the problems in Buffalo before I joined, Al Arbour said to me "Darcy, do you think there would be an opportunity there if there weren't problems? Go in there and do something about it.'" (from the book Behind the Moves).

I'm sure Craig MacTavish knew there were problems (he was part of the organization before agreeing to the job in spring) but there are elements out of the control of the GM that have (at least to this point) conspired against him. His new coach has gone from being seen as confident, fresh and relentless to another in a ever lengthening line of failed coaching hires in Edmonton.

His club has been rocked by injuries (two more last night, and as Robin Brownlee tweeted that Belov injury looked bad) goaltending maladies and confidence issues. I haven't seen locusts, but haven't been looking either.

It's a team in a bad way.

WHAT CAN THEY DO?

As the playoff hopes unhook and release (November 3rd!!!!) there's a sense that the club should do something--anything--to improve things. There are options:

  1. FIRE SOMEONE! Age old solution, find some poor schmuck who was in the room at the time. Candidates often include assistant coaches, pro scouts, the guy who brings the towels and people with one eyebrow. It usually doesn't help.
  2. HIRE SOMEONE! Oilers have already hired Messier, we just don't know what he's going to be doing.
  3. TRADE SOMEONE! Good idea, but you can go from 'we can't trade that guy' to 'no one wants our crap' in a heartbeat and the reality is that it's really early for a significant deal. Besides, the Oilers have traded Mike Brown which means they've used their "Steve Tambellini trade chips mid-season" allotment.
  4. CALL SOMEONE UP! They could call Omark, but I suspect he's broken his phone.

THIS IS GOING TO END BADLY

Probably. However, there's very little that can be done about things as they stand today. Firing the coach would be crazy, trading players when you haven't actually seen your entire team healthy is equally addled and despite being 3-10-2 after fifteen games you could make a case that with goaltending and better luck they could be 6-7-2.

That may sound like sunshine, and hell maybe it is, but from here there's not a lot going on here that some timely goaltending, a better penalty kill and better health can't fix.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The plan is on fire, the season is gone, but there's still a chance to get something out of it. Fix the PK, find useful 6's and 7's and 9's for the 3line with Gordon and the 4line overall. Get Yakupov scoring, get everyone else healthy, find a way to finish above Calgary and then work like buggers next summer to make certain that 2014-15 is the year we see a second season.

Sound horrible? It is. It's also the truth.

Or the owner can fire everyone again.

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#151 hankthetank
November 03 2013, 05:05PM
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DSF wrote:

For those of you with an interest and access to NHL Centre Ice, in half an hour, the Calgary Flames play the Blackhawks in Chicago.

Now, I have very little double that Chicago will win but I also have little doubt the Flames will show up and bust their butts for 3 periods.

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...and SN west.

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#152 Serious Gord
November 03 2013, 05:06PM
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David S wrote:

Firing Lowe will have ZERO effect on the on-ice product. What part of this simple fact do you not get?

The fact is that by tanking we purposely got rid of good players and replaced them with lesser, inferior versions. After multiple years of doing so we get what we're seeing. Underdeveloped D, inferior 3-4 lines and backup goalies masquerading as starters. But hey - three first picks!

You hate Lowe and I get that. But turning this team around from the damage done by tanking isn't going to happen by Lowe's dismissal. I'm pretty sure both MacT and Lowe know this too.

You want to blame someone, start at Katz. He authorized the tank job and he's keeping Lowe around, which tells me he and Lowe are seeing pretty much what they expected.

The team is where it is because they're trying to overcompensate for injuries and the unbalanced team that's resulted. Everybody is overtrying. Compound that with having far too many players who never learned defensive play because they had the puck on their sticks their entire junior careers and we get veteran teams running our show by pressuring our D corps night in and night out.

As a group they're exhausted because Eakins is overplaying the first two lines to compensate for the injuries. He'll never admit it but I'm sure he knows he's running his horses into the ground because we don't have the depth to pick up the slack.

So please. Enlighten me as to how firing Lowe is going to fix any of this.

Fixing the team for this season is out if the question. The season is over for all practical (reaching the playoffs) intents.

Fixing the team for the long term - fixing not just the deficiencies on the roster, but the obvious flaws in management and corporate practices (read cronyism) that caused and perpetuate the mess begins at the top: firing LOwe.

And hiring a competent POHO to begin this long term process.

The added benefit is that it will keep the wolves/irate fans at bay. And take the pressure off of MacT (or whoever is GM) to make bold, hasty, costly in the long term move.

And that benefit is the short term benefit and the long term benefit of firing Lowe.

You're welcome.

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#153 Rheal1
November 03 2013, 05:06PM
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I also forgot to mention two things: I just returned to Kingston from Ottawa where I saw the Sens-Dallas game this afternoon. Tyler Seguin looks like a legit super star on the making. He has 15 pts, probably what Taylor Hall would register if he wasnt injured and if the team would score at a normal rate. The other thing that got me going a bit was the pre-game show on 1200AM was the suggestion that Craig Anderson would look good for the Oilers but they speculated that one of the kids would be required to Ottawa.

Just saying. Plus when I left Can Tire Centre, Craig Anderson was on a stretcher, injured...

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#154 Stangconv
November 03 2013, 05:08PM
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Fire everyone again? How about just Lowe?

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#155 pkam
November 03 2013, 05:11PM
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Rob Gilgan wrote:

Why should any of them care? (DKatz, KLowe, MacT, DEakins, the players….) They’re all making lots of money producing a disgrace. Just like the Leafs, for decades. You don’t need to win the Stanley Cup to make millions in Edmonton or Toronto, or to maintain a sell-out fan base. None of them are the problem. We are. As long as we watch play and pay, they don’t have to change a thing. When the owners weren’t happy, they shut the doors. That’s the only thing the fans can do to respond - and if Oilers fans have any jam at all - the next home game will have a minimum of 10,000 with Rexall bags on their heads. Want to make some money like DKatz, KLowe, MacT, DEakins, the players? Print those bags.

"They don't have to change a thing?"

Not sure what you are talking about. We change the owner in 2008. We have changed the GM last year. We also changed 4 head coaches in 5 years. The current roster has only 2 players from the 2010 roster. And we have 8 new players just the last off season.

Other than KLowe, 2 assistant coaches, Hemsky and Smid, everything has changed. Do you mean we have to fire Joey Moss too?

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#156 David S
November 03 2013, 05:11PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Fixing the team for this season is out if the question. The season is over for all practical (reaching the playoffs) intents.

Fixing the team for the long term - fixing not just the deficiencies on the roster, but the obvious flaws in management and corporate practices (read cronyism) that caused and perpetuate the mess begins at the top: firing LOwe.

And hiring a competent POHO to begin this long term process.

The added benefit is that it will keep the wolves/irate fans at bay. And take the pressure off of MacT (or whoever is GM) to make bold, hasty, costly in the long term move.

And that benefit is the short term benefit and the long term benefit of firing Lowe.

You're welcome.

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/11/nadirs-raiders.html

No. YOU'RE welcome.

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#157 Serious Gord
November 03 2013, 05:24PM
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David S wrote:

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/11/nadirs-raiders.html

No. YOU'RE welcome.

Not sure what I should be welcome for.

As I understand the column linked to - Lowetide has a far more acidic attitude towards oiler management on his own blog than he does here or on the radio.

Yet he still refrains from saying Lowe should be fired.

Odd.

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#158 Oil Fan
November 03 2013, 05:41PM
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David S wrote:

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/11/nadirs-raiders.html

No. YOU'RE welcome.

Ok, When Rocky Wirtz took over from the deceased Bill WIrtz he had a mind to improve the team he owned. This team had a long history but had been shortchanged and milked for the fans dollars. (pause to look up Rocky Wirtz)

Now practically the first thing Rocky Wirtz did was to hire a competent president of operations. I am not saying that this is the only reason Mr Wirtz owns one of the top 3 elite teams in hockey today, but the effect of a smart president that can hire the right people and find new ways to improve the teams image around the league is not to be underestimated.

So while I agree that some of the problem is with the players, how they play, and their body types, you must also acknowledge the positive long term impacts of a competent president, and the inverse, the problems of having a guy like KLowe, a retired hockey player... running the Oilers overall.

Fire Lowe

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#159 Oil Fan
November 03 2013, 05:43PM
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David S wrote:

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/11/nadirs-raiders.html

No. YOU'RE welcome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Wirtz

Props given to Serious Gord

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#160 They're $hittie
November 03 2013, 05:59PM
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They're $hitty

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#161 Junior Hockey Oilers
November 03 2013, 06:02PM
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LET US NOT FORGET THAT KEVIN LOWE WAS JUST A SHADOW ON ALL THESE STANLEY CUP WINNING TEAMS. IT IS NOT AS IF HE WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO ANY OF THESE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS. IT IS LIKE BEING THE COUSIN OF SOMEONE WHO WON THE POWERBALL JACKPOT............. SURE YOU WILL PROBABLY BENEFIT FROM YOUR COUSINS WIN BUT YOU WERE DEFINITELY NOT THE REASON FOR IT AT ALL!!

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#162 D
November 03 2013, 06:04PM
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DSF wrote:

For those of you with an interest and access to NHL Centre Ice, in half an hour, the Calgary Flames play the Blackhawks in Chicago.

Now, I have very little double that Chicago will win but I also have little doubt the Flames will show up and bust their butts for 3 periods.

Watch.

Watching the Chicago game. It's interesting to see the difference in compete levels between the Flames and the Oilers.

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#163 Wax Man Riley
November 03 2013, 06:11PM
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Rheal1 wrote:

I also forgot to mention two things: I just returned to Kingston from Ottawa where I saw the Sens-Dallas game this afternoon. Tyler Seguin looks like a legit super star on the making. He has 15 pts, probably what Taylor Hall would register if he wasnt injured and if the team would score at a normal rate. The other thing that got me going a bit was the pre-game show on 1200AM was the suggestion that Craig Anderson would look good for the Oilers but they speculated that one of the kids would be required to Ottawa.

Just saying. Plus when I left Can Tire Centre, Craig Anderson was on a stretcher, injured...

On a stretcher?

Then he WILL fit right in with this team.

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#164 Wax Man Riley
November 03 2013, 06:16PM
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DSF wrote:

Firing Lowe and bringing in a competent Hockey Operations Manager would be the first step toward rooting out the failure and cronyism that infects the franchise. (see Joe Sakic in Colorado for reference)

Given what we've seen this far, I doubt MacT or Eakins would survive for long if they didn't produce results.

As for your assertion that The Oilers forwards are "exhausted" please note that the top 4 forwards for TOI/G are Ryan Kesler (8 goals 12 points), Henrik Sedin (3G 19P), Sidney Crosby(8G 23P) and Daniel Sedin (7G 16P).

Oddly, none of them are exhausted and are producing at a great rate despite being older.

I'm going to point out the obvious irony in stating that the Avs hiring Sakic (and Roy) is rooting out cronyism.

The difference could be that both Roy and Sakic were difference makers on the Stanley teams. Lowe and MacT were..... there.

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#165 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 03 2013, 06:16PM
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ubermiguel wrote:

Ference didn't name names but he talked about guys that weren't "self-motivated" to do the little things necessary to improve and win. Names! We want names! Trade them, waive them, or just leave them on the side of the road.

Notice how he had to pause to formulate a lie...errr...response to the question about the Oilers being a losing culture? It's worse than I thought. Cancers in the room need to be cut out. If that means chopping off one of the Fab 5, then so be it.

What if it isn't just one of the fab 5, what if it's 2 or 3? I'm inclined to believe this may be closer to the real number. Andrew didn't name names, but we sure know it's those getting the majority of the minutes every night.

Good luck trying to find guys/value to come back this way in a trade(s) if this were to occur.

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#166 Ari Gold
November 03 2013, 06:19PM
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D wrote:

Watching the Chicago game. It's interesting to see the difference in compete levels between the Flames and the Oilers.

No big egos in that Calgary lineup. Aside from management, I think the Oil have some egos on their roster that think they're too good to listen to the coach.

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#167 D
November 03 2013, 06:21PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

No big egos in that Calgary lineup. Aside from management, I think the Oil have some egos on their roster that think they're too good to listen to the coach.

Hopefully this season will be a pin-prick into their ego bubbles.

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#168 Not serious
November 03 2013, 06:21PM
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Put the Boys on the Bus and run it over a cliff.

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#169 DSF
November 03 2013, 06:22PM
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D wrote:

Watching the Chicago game. It's interesting to see the difference in compete levels between the Flames and the Oilers.

Yep.

Agree completely.

They work hard every shift.

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#170 gcw_rocks
November 03 2013, 06:23PM
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"Or the owner can fire everyone again."

When did the owner fire everyone? Last I checked Lowe was still there. MacT was an internal hire. Buchy and Smith are still there despite being attached to the worst coaching records in the history of hockey.

The problem is the owner didn't fire everyone. If he did we wouldn't be in this mess. I wake up every day hoping today is the day he develops the guts to fire everyone.

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#171 nick
November 03 2013, 06:23PM
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Greg the Hammer Valentine wrote:

Firing the coach would be carzy? I'm not so sure. From what I see since the beginning of the regular season, I would say the players have no faith in Dallas Eakins. But I'm no sport psychologist, so I could be mistaking.

What I'm sure of, is that:

1- The special teams are a total mess. Man advantage in particular, has no structure at all.

2- The swamp defense is not working. At all. It's chaos on ice.

The Eakins hiring was done too hastily and it turned into an epic fail. The entire coaching staff needs to be changed. Again.

That, plus we need goaltending. And depth at center. And grit. And a no.1 defenseman...

Have to bite the bullet and fire Eakins now. He is not a good coach and he has lost the team already with his arrogance. Watching the Red Wing game after the Wings scored the second goal they showed Eakins on TV not trying to change the momentum some way just standing there starring into space swearing . Who would play for a guy like that. He gave up after the second goal so why would the team not!!

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#172 DSF
November 03 2013, 06:25PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I'm going to point out the obvious irony in stating that the Avs hiring Sakic (and Roy) is rooting out cronyism.

The difference could be that both Roy and Sakic were difference makers on the Stanley teams. Lowe and MacT were..... there.

The difference is that Sakic doesn't have the stink of a decade of failure on him and that Roy has actually won something as a coach.

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#173 bwar
November 03 2013, 06:32PM
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I would like to put my name in the hat to be the Oilers next head coach. I guarantee immediate improvement over the current record and performance. At worst I will at least pay attention to the game and attempt to find solutions when things have gone awry.

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#174 Ari Gold
November 03 2013, 06:33PM
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I'm in the market for a new team to cheer for. Any suggestions? They don't have to be a SC favourite, just a dominant, hard-working team.

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#175 D
November 03 2013, 06:41PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

I'm in the market for a new team to cheer for. Any suggestions? They don't have to be a SC favourite, just a dominant, hard-working team.

The Kings and Blackhawks are two organizations that are fun to watch, especially considering that prior to the last decade, they were both mismanaged significantly.

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#176 D
November 03 2013, 06:42PM
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DSF wrote:

Yep.

Agree completely.

They work hard every shift.

Even when the Hawks had Calgary hemmed up in the early second period, the Flames were blocking shots and blocking lanes. Interesting - first time I really watched the Flames this season, but they really hustle.

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#177 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 03 2013, 06:43PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

LT

I honestly think it’s gone beyond the “rails” It’s bigger than a little luck on the PK, better goaltending and bad luck health wise.

Question for everyone –

Can you be so invested in something that it actually affects your ability to do something correctly??

What I’m trying to get at is, K. Lowe & MacTavish are so invested in the Oilers that they can’t see that there actually the problem or at least contributing to the problem?

Nothing they have done has really worked out now has it?

This is a systemic issue and it has managements finger prints all over the place.

Maybe to a slight degree, but it’s not the talent on the ice, we’ve seen these players play good.

So what’s left?

They cant see the problem they created because their egos (especially Lowes) wont let them. They and their media partners have shoved Dubnyk so far down our throats as a great goalie it has become a joke. Lowes presser laster year showed who he is: A bully that will throw a temper tantrum when he doesnt get his way.

Remember when Lowe called Al Strachan a liar and I believe he use bloated gas bag but i could be wrong. Yet Strachan was telling the truth. ( I hate Strachan anyway) Lowe responded with bluster and hot air yet absolutley no substance.

Kevin lowe is way over rated as a hockey manager and his actions show why.

Just sayin

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#178 DSF
November 03 2013, 06:46PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

I'm in the market for a new team to cheer for. Any suggestions? They don't have to be a SC favourite, just a dominant, hard-working team.

Minnesota is interesting.

Gone from crap to good on their way to elite.

Smart GM...great prospect pool.

A great example of how to build a contender without tanking.

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#179 DSF
November 03 2013, 06:47PM
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D wrote:

Even when the Hawks had Calgary hemmed up in the early second period, the Flames were blocking shots and blocking lanes. Interesting - first time I really watched the Flames this season, but they really hustle.

Yeah.

Way overmatched in talent but they never quit.

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#180 D
November 03 2013, 06:54PM
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DSF wrote:

Yeah.

Way overmatched in talent but they never quit.

And as soon as Chicago scored, the Flames redoubled their efforts and tied the game.

Interesting article on a blog (or in the Journal) that bringing in new players to the Oilers does not result in an importation of their previously winning culture (i.e. Ferrence), but instead the losing Oilers culture sucks the new hires in.

There's got to be a few undetected cancers in the Oilers dressing room.

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#181 seanjohn667
November 03 2013, 06:57PM
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David S wrote:

Firing Lowe will have ZERO effect on the on-ice product. What part of this simple fact do you not get?

The fact is that by tanking we purposely got rid of good players and replaced them with lesser, inferior versions. After multiple years of doing so we get what we're seeing. Underdeveloped D, inferior 3-4 lines and backup goalies masquerading as starters. But hey - three first picks!

You hate Lowe and I get that. But turning this team around from the damage done by tanking isn't going to happen by Lowe's dismissal. I'm pretty sure both MacT and Lowe know this too.

You want to blame someone, start at Katz. He authorized the tank job and he's keeping Lowe around, which tells me he and Lowe are seeing pretty much what they expected.

The team is where it is because they're trying to overcompensate for injuries and the unbalanced team that's resulted. Everybody is overtrying. Compound that with having far too many players who never learned defensive play because they had the puck on their sticks their entire junior careers and we get veteran teams running our show by pressuring our D corps night in and night out.

As a group they're exhausted because Eakins is overplaying the first two lines to compensate for the injuries. He'll never admit it but I'm sure he knows he's running his horses into the ground because we don't have the depth to pick up the slack.

So please. Enlighten me as to how firing Lowe is going to fix any of this.

about the only improvement on the ice would be

1. Firing Lowe will may go a long ways in improving the franchise's reputation in the eyes of FAs.

but, from a business standpoint

a) it is possible we will start to see empty seats this season, and a drop in season ticket sales next season. Lowe would deserve a firing for this reason alone.

b) the fans want someone's head, and it's Lowe's turn. I, for one, will be unimpressed if he isn't fired, and impress by Katz if he is.

btw, that now makes two consecutive games in which I have not watch a single second.

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#182 The Real Gongshow
November 03 2013, 07:05PM
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DSF wrote:

For those of you with an interest and access to NHL Centre Ice, in half an hour, the Calgary Flames play the Blackhawks in Chicago.

Now, I have very little double that Chicago will win but I also have little doubt the Flames will show up and bust their butts for 3 periods.

Watch.

I have seen a higher level of competition out if the Flames in the 5 minutes of the Flames/Hawks game than I have seen from the Oil since the Phx game. I hear the word "Resilience" when describing the Flames. Somebody should sit the sh*t ass Oilers down and make em watch for awhile. That being said, Go Hawks !!

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#183 Smokey
November 03 2013, 07:06PM
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Someone commented on Joe Sakic and Patrick Roy were difference makers on Stanley Cup teams whereas Lowe and MacT were just there.

Hmmm....Now you could say that about MacT I guess. He was only one of the top 3rd line centers in the NHL, and maybe one of the top 3 penalty killers in the league for a few years, He was easily the Oilers best defensive forward, and top 5 defensive forwards in the NH in his prime.

Lowe was only an all-star for 7 years and played on Team Canada in 1984. Lowe has garnered consideration for the hockey hall of fame, and will get his number retired some day in Edmonton. Kevin Lowe may be the second best Oilers defenceman after Coffey, and thats if you don't include Pronger.

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#184 DSF
November 03 2013, 07:12PM
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Smokey wrote:

Someone commented on Joe Sakic and Patrick Roy were difference makers on Stanley Cup teams whereas Lowe and MacT were just there.

Hmmm....Now you could say that about MacT I guess. He was only one of the top 3rd line centers in the NHL, and maybe one of the top 3 penalty killers in the league for a few years, He was easily the Oilers best defensive forward, and top 5 defensive forwards in the NH in his prime.

Lowe was only an all-star for 7 years and played on Team Canada in 1984. Lowe has garnered consideration for the hockey hall of fame, and will get his number retired some day in Edmonton. Kevin Lowe may be the second best Oilers defenceman after Coffey, and thats if you don't include Pronger.

All that is true but Lowe has been an abysmal failure as A GM and as a hockey ops guy.

MacT failed as a coach despite one magical run.

Sakic and Roy not only have better playing resumes but also don't have a track record of failure.

No guarantee that won't happen but the results are pretty good so far.

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#185 Andrew
November 03 2013, 07:13PM
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LT

Why don't you just set up your caldron and boil up a potion with eye of newt, beard of crow, toenail of toad and scalp of KLowe. That imo is just anout as likely to solve this as your unrealistic observations.

Obviously you can't fire everybody. But there are some things the Oiler ownership could do for a good start. How about firing the incompetent at the top of the hesp who has been a colossal failure in building a solid and credible hockey organization beyond 2006?. I think you need to read Staples and Brownlees recent comments about who they think is responsible You are out of touch.

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#186 Nimrod
November 03 2013, 07:27PM
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@Wax Man Riley

Avalanche did get rid of their president in Pierre Lacroix and also his son Eric, who was their VP of hockey operations.

Sakic and Roy have had nothing to do with Avs becoming irrelevant. They're connected to the organization but not to the front office that failed.

Avalanche got rid of their KLowe. Will Oilers?

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#187 Serious Gord
November 03 2013, 07:28PM
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Oil Fan wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Wirtz

Props given to Serious Gord

As I have stated on previous occasions my comparative for Katz is not old man wirtz who was doddering into senility when he drove the hawks into the ground.

Katz is not of unsound mind.

I consider the more apt comparative is Phillip Wrigley

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Wrigley

A key, depressing Graf:

P.K. was a fairly visible presence with the Cubs in his younger years, but was seldom witnessed attending games during his final few decades of ownership, making his presence known mostly through memos and sometimes full-page newspaper ads. Early 70s utility player Pete LaCock was best known for being the son of TV personality Peter Marshall and for his unique sense of humor. The Sporting News once reported that he had made a trip to the Wrigley Building and asked for an audience with Mr. Wrigley. P.K. asked him what he wanted, and LaCock answered, "Nothing. I just wanted to see if you really exist!"

He owned the cubs through some of its most miserable years for 45 years (he gave up ownership when he died). He chronically hired sycophants (Leo Durocher being a notable exception) and held into to players far too long (Ernie banks). Sound familiar?

The thought of Katz being the NHLs version of Phillips haunts me. I haven't got 45 years to wait him out...

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#188 Lars Eller
November 03 2013, 07:42PM
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For those of you with an interest and access to NHL Centre Ice, in half an hour, the Calgary Flames play the Blackhawks in Chicago.

Now, I have very little double that Chicago will win but I also have little doubt the Flames will show up and bust their butts for 3 periods.

Watch.

Flames 2-1. Still manage to compete and actually lead despite of a crappy line up...this is sad oilers fans. Oh wait, they hv plenty of cap space too...sad. Oh wait, some of their best prospects are not even playing yet... Sad. Yup, fire every1.

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#189 Ever the Optimist
November 03 2013, 07:45PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

I'm in the market for a new team to cheer for. Any suggestions? They don't have to be a SC favourite, just a dominant, hard-working team.

Try the Avalanche ..... same plan from the management without the constant losing

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#190 Greg
November 03 2013, 08:01PM
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the worst part of this whole Lowe situation is that he's smearing that whole era of oilers hockey. before when you thought of that group you thought of the glory and and the cups. now all i think of is nepotism and how its ruined everything here. its not right to look at old images of the 80's oilers and be disgusted. its not right.

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#191 cubsfan
November 03 2013, 08:04PM
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@Lars Eller

and the flames missing their captain.....and still competative

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#192 cubsfan
November 03 2013, 08:06PM
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....i am going to save this article, re-read it next year.....it will stand the test of time......lather, rinse, repeat since 2006......

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#193 Greg
November 03 2013, 08:07PM
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if the oilers are going to continue to put sh*t product on the ice. the least the can do for fans at start putting the octane girls in some sexy ass clothes. like come on! look around the at all the other ice girls in the league. some of them look so sexy a feel a mild anxiety attack coming on when i see them. with the way they dress the octane, i barely get a 1/4 chub. just sayin...

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#194 D
November 03 2013, 08:15PM
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and the flames missing their captain.....and still competative

Flames . . . win.

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#195 madjam
November 03 2013, 08:16PM
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3-2 overtime win for Flames .

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#196 DSF
November 03 2013, 08:16PM
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Calgary hangs around and wins 3-2 in OT.

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#197 cubsfan
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......Flames win!!!! Crap.....Glencross 1 goal and set up winning goal in OT......why cant the Oilers find someone like Glencross.....Oh!......never mind......

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#198 The Real Gongshow
November 03 2013, 08:19PM
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Hard work combined with some dedication can do wonders. Pay attention, young Oilers !!!

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#199 spliff
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Flames win 3 - 2 in Chicago, with GlenX gettting a goal and an assist.

Remember GlenX KLowe? Oiler fans were begging you to sign him, but you were too busy chasing Hossa, trying to get him to come to Edmonton for 10 million a year.

Of course KLowe knows better then Oil nation, we didn't need Glencross, there are lots of his type. Unf*ckingbelievable. I know its useless to keep harping on past mistakes, but KLowe and Tambelini's screw ups have driven this team into the sewer, and right now it looks like it might never get up.

Sure would be nice to have GlenX, Greene, Stoll and Souray in Oiler silks. What an absolute sh*tshow.

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