THE PLAN IS ON FIRE

Lowetide
November 03 2013 12:32PM

The Edmonton Oilers (MacT as GM edition) are 3-10-2 fifteen games in, and OilersNation has gone from anger to real disillusionment. Up next for the fanbase is indifference, but before they get there is there anything the GM can do?

 

  • Darcy Regier: "These GM jobs, they're good jobs. But waiting for a GM opportunity that's structured for success? I'm not sure it exists. When I was assessing the problems in Buffalo before I joined, Al Arbour said to me "Darcy, do you think there would be an opportunity there if there weren't problems? Go in there and do something about it.'" (from the book Behind the Moves).

I'm sure Craig MacTavish knew there were problems (he was part of the organization before agreeing to the job in spring) but there are elements out of the control of the GM that have (at least to this point) conspired against him. His new coach has gone from being seen as confident, fresh and relentless to another in a ever lengthening line of failed coaching hires in Edmonton.

His club has been rocked by injuries (two more last night, and as Robin Brownlee tweeted that Belov injury looked bad) goaltending maladies and confidence issues. I haven't seen locusts, but haven't been looking either.

It's a team in a bad way.

WHAT CAN THEY DO?

As the playoff hopes unhook and release (November 3rd!!!!) there's a sense that the club should do something--anything--to improve things. There are options:

  1. FIRE SOMEONE! Age old solution, find some poor schmuck who was in the room at the time. Candidates often include assistant coaches, pro scouts, the guy who brings the towels and people with one eyebrow. It usually doesn't help.
  2. HIRE SOMEONE! Oilers have already hired Messier, we just don't know what he's going to be doing.
  3. TRADE SOMEONE! Good idea, but you can go from 'we can't trade that guy' to 'no one wants our crap' in a heartbeat and the reality is that it's really early for a significant deal. Besides, the Oilers have traded Mike Brown which means they've used their "Steve Tambellini trade chips mid-season" allotment.
  4. CALL SOMEONE UP! They could call Omark, but I suspect he's broken his phone.

THIS IS GOING TO END BADLY

Probably. However, there's very little that can be done about things as they stand today. Firing the coach would be crazy, trading players when you haven't actually seen your entire team healthy is equally addled and despite being 3-10-2 after fifteen games you could make a case that with goaltending and better luck they could be 6-7-2.

That may sound like sunshine, and hell maybe it is, but from here there's not a lot going on here that some timely goaltending, a better penalty kill and better health can't fix.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The plan is on fire, the season is gone, but there's still a chance to get something out of it. Fix the PK, find useful 6's and 7's and 9's for the 3line with Gordon and the 4line overall. Get Yakupov scoring, get everyone else healthy, find a way to finish above Calgary and then work like buggers next summer to make certain that 2014-15 is the year we see a second season.

Sound horrible? It is. It's also the truth.

Or the owner can fire everyone again.

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#1 JJ
November 03 2013, 03:18PM
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Nichushkin got his first NHL goal today. How many does Nurse have? Oh wait..

Just another failure by MacT in his first few months. Ya dun goofed.

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#2 PutzStew
November 03 2013, 01:03PM
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"The Edmonton Oilers (MacT as GM edition) are 3-10-2 fifteen games in, and OilersNation has gone from anger to real disillusionment. Up next for the fanbase is indifference, but before they get there is there anything the GM can do?"

LMAO

Disillisionment = Lowetide

1) MacT is in over his head and was not the right man for the job. If he was then he would have made sure that he had enough NHL player to start the season with, never mind injuries. Never mind all the other crap he said, He started the season with One NHL caliber center. That was the beginning of the end right there. And a smart Hockey man would have never said Horcoff should be on the 2010 olympic team. That was one of the stupidest hockey moments ever.

2) Klowe should have been fired as soon as his comments about "stanley cup rings" and "2 tiered fans". Seriously could you image Scotty Bowman saying something so pathetic?

3) Katz is going to make Pocklington look like an angel. You folks got screwed badly with the arena deal.

4) Hall, RNH, Yak, Gagner, ETC are all good hockey players and should be in the NHL. But as Lindy Ruff and Ken Hitchcock made clear last spring, none of them know how to play as a team. This is an organizational issue. It isn't knew either. As I asked a couple blogs ago, How good would Hemsky actually have been if he was brought up in a good system.

5) No successful team would start the season with Smyth on the first line. In fact no good team would even have Smyth on the rosters. Why? BECAUSE HE CAN"T PLAY ANYMORE. Enough said.

So to you Mr. Allen. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You want to choose to support a pathetic team like the Oilers, then I will enjoy laughing my arse off at you and the other like you. You want to waste you time and money supporting a organization that doesn't deserve it then I will enjoy making fun of your misery. So again to you sir……BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! SUCKER!!!!

PS are you ready to give up yet and start demanding change from these losers or are you going to continue with your false hope.

PPS BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. shut out in 2 games straight. I love it. Lossers.

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#3 Rama Lama
November 03 2013, 12:41PM
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Start with firing the coach and all his junior systems.

Bring in Brent Sutter.........a real NHL Coach.

Start observing players to see who stay and who goes.

Trade as many players as possible for draft picks.

Bring in as many AHL players and see what we really have........I mean could they be worse that what we have?

Start assembling a team for next year.........this year is over.

Embrace change as it is all we have left...........do not attend a game ( fan revolt) to send a clear message to Katz that Six Rings has to go.

Drink and drink heavily, this will be a long second rebuild!

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#4 GK1980
November 03 2013, 02:36PM
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Please everyone be patient

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Is there any truth to the rumor that I'm about to start with this post that one of the young guys has pulled a Comrie on the coaches wife? Hence, why he gets no respect.

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#6 6Rings
November 03 2013, 01:02PM
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Doug Messier to be named Head Coach Monday morning. Son Markie to be named special assistant to Joey Moss.

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#7 Get me outta this Mess !
November 03 2013, 12:42PM
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What ?!?!?! Where's the advance stats ?? Can't pull some numbers out the butt now, can you ?!?

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#8 Racki
November 03 2013, 02:21PM
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Hey everybody, I'm headed down to Whyte Ave.. LETS BURN THIS CITY DOWN!!

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#9 Smokey
November 03 2013, 07:06PM
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Someone commented on Joe Sakic and Patrick Roy were difference makers on Stanley Cup teams whereas Lowe and MacT were just there.

Hmmm....Now you could say that about MacT I guess. He was only one of the top 3rd line centers in the NHL, and maybe one of the top 3 penalty killers in the league for a few years, He was easily the Oilers best defensive forward, and top 5 defensive forwards in the NH in his prime.

Lowe was only an all-star for 7 years and played on Team Canada in 1984. Lowe has garnered consideration for the hockey hall of fame, and will get his number retired some day in Edmonton. Kevin Lowe may be the second best Oilers defenceman after Coffey, and thats if you don't include Pronger.

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#10 THE GLASS IS ALWAYS HALF FULL
November 04 2013, 08:58AM
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@Lowetide

Trade Hall ( receive 1st round pick plus journeyman third- fourth liner) Trade Eberle ( receive 1st round pick ) Trade Nuge ( receive 1st round pick ) Trade yakapov ( receive 1st round pick )

And start over this is not working

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#11 Dan 1919
November 03 2013, 01:10PM
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Remember when Oiler fans laughed at trading Eberle for Suban... Suban would be nice right now.

I do wonder what would have happened if the Oilers started the season with a goalie like Schneider had the Canucks traded him here. Would getting Miller right now be enough to spark the team, maybe compete down the stretch, still highly unlikely to make the post season obviously.

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#12 pkam
November 03 2013, 02:20PM
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I am sick of hearing the 2-tier fans comment from Lowe.

I am a 2nd tier fan according to Lowe's comment. And in my opinion, Lowe is doing the right thing.

Can you imagine those season ticket holders spending thousands of hard earn money, and in 41 night per year, spend 3 hrs per night sitting in the rink, $10 a beer and $8 a hotdog, plus lining up for 30 minutes to get into the parking and another 30 minutes to get out of the parking, to watch this terrible performance. Don't you think they deserve some special recognition from the management?

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#13 Ryan2
November 03 2013, 01:43PM
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I Remember the Orange Jerseys wrote:

Hi. First time poster here at ON. I’ve been coming here regularly for a couple years to read insightful thoughts about my favorite team. So far, you good people have never let me down!

What I took away from Andrew Ference’s interview last night on Hot Stove was that DE has lost a significant part of the locker room, and that it’s largely the “young guns” that he’s lost. I think Ference was also suggesting he believes Eakins’ system would work if the team would actually buy in.

There’s little doubt in my mind that MacT needs to trade one of the so-called untouchables, and he needs to do it now. Given the potential return, and (in my opinion) his complete lack of commitment to the game when the puck isn’t on his stick, Eberle would be my first choice.

This team has become too much of a sh** show to fix with one trade, but trading one of the young guns at this point would bring back something else in return that the team does need, and it would send a message to the locker room that the coach, not the players, run the team.

I’m definitely not sold on Eakins myself, but it does appear to me that a large segment of this team will not commit to defense, and this hasn’t been a problem just since Eakins came along.

The problem with the Eakins'"system" was on display last night - how many point blank shots from the high slot did the Wings have by just moving the puck quickly? That is the difference between the NHL vs. Juniors/AHL - at this level good teams will exploit the high slot that is always open with the Eakins' SWARM "system". Someone should have asked Ference if the Bruins would have ever implemented that system.

A good coach will adapt and implement a system that plays to the strength of the roster, not try to implement something that has no chance of working. The players can smell BS and we are seeing the result. Eakins needs to go or things will continue to slide.

My guess is that the kids are getting fed up with the losing, just like any sane player would. If MacT were smart he would look at changing things up with the entire coaching staff (how much worse are the special teams this season?) before the young talent starts to ask for a trade and the rebuild drags on for "5 more years"........

Like I have said before, bringing in Ference on that contract is a boat anchor going forward. He is not a top pairing d-man and is on the downside of his career. Mind you, the team likely had to overpay to lure him here, but bringing in a depth d-man at the end of his career is not what the team needed. Most of the fans drank the kool-aid with this signing, but the only way it could have worked is if the team had a solid blue line to start with and this signing was a depth move. As we can see now, plugging in one depth d-man (bottom pairing on the Bruins likely this year) does not do anything. Hopefully MacT realizes this by now as well, but I am not certain. Remember, the only season he did anything as a coach was due to a hot goalie - before the Roloson trade the Oilers were out of a playoff spot even with Pronger in the fold.

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#14 David S
November 03 2013, 04:29PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Of all the bloggers and journos Lowetide is the most pollyannish of the bunch. And consistently so.

Until this post.

Yet he conspicuously ignores the elephant in the room:

Kevin Lowe.

A commenter further up urged patience (what were we doing the last seven years!!)

Another rebutted that if Lowe is fired we fans would grant the organization our patience.

He is absolutely correct.

Trades, coach firings won't do it. Lowes removal will.

It's Katz' choice.

Firing Lowe will have ZERO effect on the on-ice product. What part of this simple fact do you not get?

The fact is that by tanking we purposely got rid of good players and replaced them with lesser, inferior versions. After multiple years of doing so we get what we're seeing. Underdeveloped D, inferior 3-4 lines and backup goalies masquerading as starters. But hey - three first picks!

You hate Lowe and I get that. But turning this team around from the damage done by tanking isn't going to happen by Lowe's dismissal. I'm pretty sure both MacT and Lowe know this too.

You want to blame someone, start at Katz. He authorized the tank job and he's keeping Lowe around, which tells me he and Lowe are seeing pretty much what they expected.

The team is where it is because they're trying to overcompensate for injuries and the unbalanced team that's resulted. Everybody is overtrying. Compound that with having far too many players who never learned defensive play because they had the puck on their sticks their entire junior careers and we get veteran teams running our show by pressuring our D corps night in and night out.

As a group they're exhausted because Eakins is overplaying the first two lines to compensate for the injuries. He'll never admit it but I'm sure he knows he's running his horses into the ground because we don't have the depth to pick up the slack.

So please. Enlighten me as to how firing Lowe is going to fix any of this.

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#15 Listener
November 04 2013, 06:49AM
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madjam wrote:

Lowetide : Any chance you can get Kreuger on your show and ask him what he would do to correct the mess we are in . Would be nice to get his assessment of our personnel as well Thirdly , would he be interested in coming back and coaching the team again .

Good luck. LT only talks to obscure , basement bloggers who collectively have no greater insight than 90% of the posters here.

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#16 nuge2nail
November 03 2013, 01:36PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

I haven't missed an oilers game since the invention of the PVR, and this is the worst Oilers Team I have ever seen..

Worst Goaltending. Worst Defence. Absolutely the Worst Forward Group.

No grit, no forecheck, no passion, no desire.

Team seems confused out there, with no idea how to score and how to keep the puck out of the net.

It's so sad.

Trade Weber for Yakupov, Smid + parts. Trade Gagner for Bogosian.

Trade N Shultz for a second rounder.

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#17 Dan 1919
November 03 2013, 01:48PM
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@nuge2nail

I would trade Yak and 2014 1st for Weber, or Eberle and pick. With Nashville’s two elite D-men and snake bitten offence they seem like an ideal trade partner...

I can never get this verified but I thought Weber said he wouldn’t play in Edm, mind you with his contract he would play, he’d get over it if they started winning.

The Oil would need to dump salary to get him though, it’ll never happen anyway.

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#18 elpolodiablo
November 04 2013, 03:07AM
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@Lowetide

I think i'd rather fire Eakins then trade one of the kids. You'll be getting pennies on the dollars. I was reading Rick Patino's book very interesting comments he said he had a lack of hubris when he took the celtics job because of his success at the NCAA level. I think Eakins is similar he needs to fail and lose a job to gain some hubris. MacT fired Krueger and brought in Eakins, he said when he did it it either will be judged as a success or failure. I think he should cut his losses and fire the coach rather than double down and trade a player. I think Lowetide and people who defend Eakins are being stubborn (I'm not trying to be argumentative) however a new coach costs you nothing but dollars, losing a young player in a trade on pennies on a dollar can set you back years. It's time to cut the losses and fire the coach

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#19 The Real Gongshow
November 03 2013, 12:39PM
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Not falling for it this year. Infinibuild is right. I'm not jumping off the bandwagon, I'm blowing it up !!! Oh ya... One more thing... M...I...C...K...E...Y, M...O...U...S...E !!!

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#20 madjam
November 03 2013, 01:27PM
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Firesale : Hold onto Nurse , Hall and Perron . Rest all needs upgrading , and start from the backend this time .

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#21 DSF
November 03 2013, 01:41PM
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Timely goaltending, a better PK and better health would certainly help some but those hardly fix what ails the team.

Even if LT's presumption that the Oilers could be 6-7-2 if those 3 things existed, the Oilers would still be 11th in the WC, barely ahead of Calgary who have 2 games in hand.

And that is with an early schedule against weaker EC teams.

The Oilers record against teams that made the playoffs last season is 2-9-1.

The Oilers record against the WC is 0-3-1.

The issue is, and has been for years, that the Oilers need a big, skilled 2nd line centre, TWO top pairing defensemen and above average goaltending.

MacT addressed NONE of those issues in the offseason just like his predecessor did for half a decade.

If the Vice President in Charge of Remembering the '80's and his hand picked henchman can't see that, nothing much else will matter.

It's pretty easy to say "it's too hard to acquire these players" but take another look at what Burke was able to do in Toronto.

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#22 Zarny
November 03 2013, 04:16PM
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6-7-2 was probably best case scenario with a young team, new system, new responsibilities and a lack of depth. Hit by key injuries the Oilers are a bad team.

I wouldn't say the plan is on fire. They aren't that far off from where you'd expect this roster to be. I think we are seeing answers to some of the questions and what if's.

The long term plan hasn't changed. Bold moves were required before the season started. Those moves probably won't be available until the trade deadline, draft or free agency.

In the short term MacT should target depth at C, better 7-12 F and 3-4 D. Buf, Phi, Fla and NJ should be open for business. Coburn, Simmons, Zajac, Ott and Myers could help the Oilers.

The young kids are going to make mistakes. They can't be supported by 4th year rookies with 15 NHL games experience and a deep 5-7 D.

And yes playoffs is lost. A top 10 draft pick can be used to facilitate one the required Bold Moves™.

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#23 Serious Gord
November 03 2013, 05:06PM
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David S wrote:

Firing Lowe will have ZERO effect on the on-ice product. What part of this simple fact do you not get?

The fact is that by tanking we purposely got rid of good players and replaced them with lesser, inferior versions. After multiple years of doing so we get what we're seeing. Underdeveloped D, inferior 3-4 lines and backup goalies masquerading as starters. But hey - three first picks!

You hate Lowe and I get that. But turning this team around from the damage done by tanking isn't going to happen by Lowe's dismissal. I'm pretty sure both MacT and Lowe know this too.

You want to blame someone, start at Katz. He authorized the tank job and he's keeping Lowe around, which tells me he and Lowe are seeing pretty much what they expected.

The team is where it is because they're trying to overcompensate for injuries and the unbalanced team that's resulted. Everybody is overtrying. Compound that with having far too many players who never learned defensive play because they had the puck on their sticks their entire junior careers and we get veteran teams running our show by pressuring our D corps night in and night out.

As a group they're exhausted because Eakins is overplaying the first two lines to compensate for the injuries. He'll never admit it but I'm sure he knows he's running his horses into the ground because we don't have the depth to pick up the slack.

So please. Enlighten me as to how firing Lowe is going to fix any of this.

Fixing the team for this season is out if the question. The season is over for all practical (reaching the playoffs) intents.

Fixing the team for the long term - fixing not just the deficiencies on the roster, but the obvious flaws in management and corporate practices (read cronyism) that caused and perpetuate the mess begins at the top: firing LOwe.

And hiring a competent POHO to begin this long term process.

The added benefit is that it will keep the wolves/irate fans at bay. And take the pressure off of MacT (or whoever is GM) to make bold, hasty, costly in the long term move.

And that benefit is the short term benefit and the long term benefit of firing Lowe.

You're welcome.

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#24 Kent Wilson
November 04 2013, 07:55AM
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@Listener

And who collectively control this site and it's commenting permissions.

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#25 Jordan
November 03 2013, 03:47PM
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https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/edmonton-oilers-managment-group-darryl-katz-enforce-their-message-of-accountability-and-hold-kevin-lowe-responsible-for-this-debacle-of-a-season-either-resigning-or-fired#share

SIGN THE PETITION . WE CAN'T MAKE CHANGE BY VOICING OUR DISPLEASURE HERE AS MUCH AS WE WISH IT COULD. THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS ADVOCATE FOR CHANGE . ONE VOICE CANNOT BE HEARD, BUT MANY VOICES WILL BE HEARD. THIS TEAM WILL NOT PROSPER WITH LOWE AT THE HELM. THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER. THE FANS DO.

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#26 bwar
November 03 2013, 06:32PM
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I would like to put my name in the hat to be the Oilers next head coach. I guarantee immediate improvement over the current record and performance. At worst I will at least pay attention to the game and attempt to find solutions when things have gone awry.

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#27 hankthetank
November 03 2013, 05:05PM
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DSF wrote:

For those of you with an interest and access to NHL Centre Ice, in half an hour, the Calgary Flames play the Blackhawks in Chicago.

Now, I have very little double that Chicago will win but I also have little doubt the Flames will show up and bust their butts for 3 periods.

Watch.

...and SN west.

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#28 pkam
November 03 2013, 05:11PM
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Rob Gilgan wrote:

Why should any of them care? (DKatz, KLowe, MacT, DEakins, the players….) They’re all making lots of money producing a disgrace. Just like the Leafs, for decades. You don’t need to win the Stanley Cup to make millions in Edmonton or Toronto, or to maintain a sell-out fan base. None of them are the problem. We are. As long as we watch play and pay, they don’t have to change a thing. When the owners weren’t happy, they shut the doors. That’s the only thing the fans can do to respond - and if Oilers fans have any jam at all - the next home game will have a minimum of 10,000 with Rexall bags on their heads. Want to make some money like DKatz, KLowe, MacT, DEakins, the players? Print those bags.

"They don't have to change a thing?"

Not sure what you are talking about. We change the owner in 2008. We have changed the GM last year. We also changed 4 head coaches in 5 years. The current roster has only 2 players from the 2010 roster. And we have 8 new players just the last off season.

Other than KLowe, 2 assistant coaches, Hemsky and Smid, everything has changed. Do you mean we have to fire Joey Moss too?

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#29 Junior Hockey Oilers
November 03 2013, 06:02PM
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LET US NOT FORGET THAT KEVIN LOWE WAS JUST A SHADOW ON ALL THESE STANLEY CUP WINNING TEAMS. IT IS NOT AS IF HE WAS AN IMPORTANT PIECE TO ANY OF THESE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS. IT IS LIKE BEING THE COUSIN OF SOMEONE WHO WON THE POWERBALL JACKPOT............. SURE YOU WILL PROBABLY BENEFIT FROM YOUR COUSINS WIN BUT YOU WERE DEFINITELY NOT THE REASON FOR IT AT ALL!!

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#30 Rod from Viking
November 03 2013, 09:18PM
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Anthony wrote:

When we would not give Curtis glen cross a contract, just let a character player walk, I felt we were in trouble

Because the management had Marc Pouliot and JF Jacques they didn't need him.

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#31 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 03 2013, 12:37PM
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Fire and trade everyone.

Woman holding the leash = Lowe and friends, dog = Oiler fans, guy with eggs = DSF

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#32 master of my domain
November 03 2013, 01:31PM
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I wish my girlfriend sucked as much as the Oilers do

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#33 David S
November 03 2013, 05:11PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Fixing the team for this season is out if the question. The season is over for all practical (reaching the playoffs) intents.

Fixing the team for the long term - fixing not just the deficiencies on the roster, but the obvious flaws in management and corporate practices (read cronyism) that caused and perpetuate the mess begins at the top: firing LOwe.

And hiring a competent POHO to begin this long term process.

The added benefit is that it will keep the wolves/irate fans at bay. And take the pressure off of MacT (or whoever is GM) to make bold, hasty, costly in the long term move.

And that benefit is the short term benefit and the long term benefit of firing Lowe.

You're welcome.

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2013/11/nadirs-raiders.html

No. YOU'RE welcome.

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#34 Dave
November 04 2013, 09:14AM
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rob wrote:

Things are not getting fixed till the new areana,We can say all we want about Katz but he is not stupid(selfish,arrogant,ect)but this is simply put he wants a cup,but not till the Oil are in his building!mark my words the last year before the new areana opens this team will be competive,and then ask yourself if that is coincidence or not!

p.s. please get rid of stauffer,I have never heard a more one sided sports personality in my life!

Why fire Stauffer ? He is probably the most honest employee of any Hockey club out there. He has his opinions which right or wrong are his own.

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#35 D
November 03 2013, 12:49PM
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When a patient is in triage, the first step ER doctors take is to stabilize. Figure out what will get the patient through the night and then the week. Once the patient is clear from mortal danger, then follow-on medical personnel can determine how to rehabilitate the patient.

For the Oilers, it should be no different. We now have talented players that we were unable to retain in the late 90s and early 2000s. Determine this season what is missing in order to stabilize the team (while retaining the top end talent) and at least make it a passable NHL organization.

Okay, so there's no playoffs this year, but what could the Oilers do this season to compete at the level of say, Carolina or Nashville. Not elite, but at least passable NHL franchises. Once you get to that point, then worry about jumping to the Chicago-Pittsburgh level.

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#36 Greg the Hammer Valentine
November 03 2013, 12:58PM
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Firing the coach would be carzy? I'm not so sure. From what I see since the beginning of the regular season, I would say the players have no faith in Dallas Eakins. But I'm no sport psychologist, so I could be mistaking.

What I'm sure of, is that:

1- The special teams are a total mess. Man advantage in particular, has no structure at all.

2- The swamp defense is not working. At all. It's chaos on ice.

The Eakins hiring was done too hastily and it turned into an epic fail. The entire coaching staff needs to be changed. Again.

That, plus we need goaltending. And depth at center. And grit. And a no.1 defenseman...

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#37 -30-
November 03 2013, 01:03PM
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Whatever the Oil do please keep the assistant coaches for the sake of continuity. K?

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#38 Make
November 03 2013, 02:23PM
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DSF wrote:

Yes he was.

And I bet he has a little smirk every time he looks at the game scores.

Had Katz had the cajones to fire Lowe and hire Burke, I'd wager things would look pretty different in Oilerland right now.

Get Mike Keenan/Brent Sutter in here and watch thing improve rapidly!

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#39 VK63
November 03 2013, 02:37PM
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Completely OT but yet related. Kimberley Amirault.. motivational speaker and shrink has been WORKING with these as*hats for a few years now.

Not exactly a gold star on the old resume for the poor lass.

She is REALLY attractive though (IMO) ..... so perhaps... thats enough.

On further review.... look at this train wreck... attractive is a complete lock to stay employed by the Edmonton Oilers organization.

In fact..... give the girl a raise!!! She hasn't earned it but theres a bit of evidence that she might earn it in the future.

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#40 Rama Lama
November 03 2013, 02:50PM
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The problem with the Eakins'"system" was on display last night - how many point blank shots from the high slot did the Wings have by just moving the puck quickly? That is the difference between the NHL vs. Juniors/AHL - at this level good teams will exploit the high slot that is always open with the Eakins' SWARM "system". Someone should have asked Ference if the Bruins would have ever implemented that system.

A good coach will adapt and implement a system that plays to the strength of the roster, not try to implement something that has no chance of working. The players can smell BS and we are seeing the result. Eakins needs to go or things will continue to slide.

My guess is that the kids are getting fed up with the losing, just like any sane player would. If MacT were smart he would look at changing things up with the entire coaching staff (how much worse are the special teams this season?) before the young talent starts to ask for a trade and the rebuild drags on for "5 more years"........

Like I have said before, bringing in Ference on that contract is a boat anchor going forward. He is not a top pairing d-man and is on the downside of his career. Mind you, the team likely had to overpay to lure him here, but bringing in a depth d-man at the end of his career is not what the team needed. Most of the fans drank the kool-aid with this signing, but the only way it could have worked is if the team had a solid blue line to start with and this signing was a depth move. As we can see now, plugging in one depth d-man (bottom pairing on the Bruins likely this year) does not do anything. Hopefully MacT realizes this by now as well, but I am not certain. Remember, the only season he did anything as a coach was due to a hot goalie - before the Roloson trade the Oilers were out of a playoff spot even with Pronger in the fold.

I'm not sure why the professional hockey writers are so easy on Eakins?

I still believe that Mac T is a a good man but bold is making decisions based on results that counter your first decision........admitting that hiring DE was a mistake.

The players have tuned him out.........plain and simple. He has lost the respect of the players but continuously throwing them under the bus. If he had any coaching abilities he would abandon what is clearly not working, and establish a new system that the players agree with.

Except for one player ( Andrew Ference) not one player has come out and said, man is this system excellent, and we all believe in it and support it. In stead we have AF pathetically trying to explain it on After Hours.

Mac T do the right thing, agree that you made a mistake and hire a real coach..........more of the same will change NOTHING!

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#41 DSF
November 03 2013, 08:44PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Now that's a coach that gets his players to go the extra mile! Nothing fancy & doesn't try to re-invent the game.

Too bad the Oilers couldn't trade up for Monahan, kids a Getzlaf clone.

Oilers brass should load up 23 iPads with the Flames win over the Hawks and make every player watch "Here's How You Win a Hockey Game" on the flight to Florida.

When they've finished watching it...they should have to watch it again.

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#42 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 03 2013, 12:59PM
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I'm starting to think they should raffle off the assets one at a time, ask for nothing but first round picks. Keep Nuge and Nurse.

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#44 Spydyr
November 03 2013, 01:43PM
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This team has no heart, grit, passion, will to win. A bunch of soft, small, skill boys in a mans(NHL)game.

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#45 Rinkrat Brownn
November 03 2013, 01:52PM
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Hmm.. No power on a power play that was dangerous last season, no defensive system to speak of, no ability to clear the puck under pressure, no O-zone penetration. I'm afraid all these add up to... COACHING. Oh, yes, and we have to add... no motivation. What worked in the A doesn't necessarily translate. Bite the bullet NOW and fire D.E.

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The Real Gongshow wrote:

Brian Burke was right all along. K Lowe and his cronies have destroyed this once storied organization.

Yes he was.

And I bet he has a little smirk every time he looks at the game scores.

Had Katz had the cajones to fire Lowe and hire Burke, I'd wager things would look pretty different in Oilerland right now.

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#47 DigDeepNBleedBlue
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Sunday Rant:

“You don't understand. I coulda had class. I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am, let's face it.” - Terry, ‘On The Waterfront’

Up until last night I would point to injuries, lack of grit and size, the missing of a Neanderthal D-man, system error, and sub-par goaltending as the major cluster pucks. This morning?

Well, I’ve seen a basketball. A tennis ball. Even one of those beach balls. Last night I didn’t see any type of balls. None whatsoever.

“I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom.” - Gen. Patton

The bottom has arrived. Puck the excuses. 60 pucking minutes! Hit. Don’t turn at the last second. That’s weak sh*t. Hit in all three zones. Finish your checks. This team is playing butter soft and all the strategies in the world ain’t gonna change the fate you create for yourself.

Everyone IS accountable.

The players just look lost. Get back to picking up a man when the opp. enters the zone. Apply some pressure. When that rush is thwarted get into zone coverage. The D need to be able to blindly pass to an area when they’re under pressure.

Then fight. Never stop the fight.

“A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.” - Gen. Patton

I think Coach needs a good, balls out, drunk. Tip the “fire water” back and let it all out. Scream and yell at the Gods! I don’t care. Then get the puck back on the horse. Trudge forward.

This sh*t ain’t over yet.

“It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.” - Gen. MacArthur

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#48 Quicksilver ballet
November 03 2013, 03:46PM
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Fire vs Fire

The Avalanche are on fire as well. Could you lay out for us the difference between these two types of fires please LT.

Hoping to pass my firefighters entrance exam in a couple weeks... ;)

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#49 nick
November 03 2013, 06:23PM
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Greg the Hammer Valentine wrote:

Firing the coach would be carzy? I'm not so sure. From what I see since the beginning of the regular season, I would say the players have no faith in Dallas Eakins. But I'm no sport psychologist, so I could be mistaking.

What I'm sure of, is that:

1- The special teams are a total mess. Man advantage in particular, has no structure at all.

2- The swamp defense is not working. At all. It's chaos on ice.

The Eakins hiring was done too hastily and it turned into an epic fail. The entire coaching staff needs to be changed. Again.

That, plus we need goaltending. And depth at center. And grit. And a no.1 defenseman...

Have to bite the bullet and fire Eakins now. He is not a good coach and he has lost the team already with his arrogance. Watching the Red Wing game after the Wings scored the second goal they showed Eakins on TV not trying to change the momentum some way just standing there starring into space swearing . Who would play for a guy like that. He gave up after the second goal so why would the team not!!

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#50 Serious Gord
November 03 2013, 09:43PM
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David S wrote:

As I understand it, his basic premise is that Katz is not dedicated to winning. Until he is firing any senior management is pointless. Lowe is executing exactly as Katz wants. Why? I don't know but it would make for a helluva story.

Barring Katz selling the team the next best thing is firing Lowe. And as this is only a part time gig/hobby for Katz it makes sense to fire the person highest up who is full time involved (Lowe).

Perhaps Lowetide cannot bear thought of conceding that his hero has to be sacked.

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