GDB 16.0: JUST SHOW UP...

Jason Gregor
November 05 2013 11:59AM

It won't matter what the line combinations are if the Oilers elect to sleep walk through tonight's game like they did Saturday vs. the Detroit Red Wings. Hockey fans, coaches and players can accept losing, as long as you put forth an effort, but the Edmonton Oilers barely registered a pulse vs. the Wings.

Whatever happens tonight, the Oiler must show they care.

I watched the game on Saturday with some diehard Oilers fans and they were distraught during and after the game. These are fans, like many of you, who buy tickets, jerseys and have supported the Oilers through seven years of sucking. They love hockey, and as long as the Oilers put forth an effort that satisfies most of you.

What you saw on Saturday was pathetic.

The Oilers showed no desire. Not one player looked remotely annoyed that they were getting embarrassed in front of their home fans and on national TV.

I rarely will say players don't care, because you don't make it to the best league in the world without caring, but on Saturday night their "care meter" barely registered.

It is obvious this team lacks confidence right now. No one is shooting the puck with any authority, and it seems most players are scared to make a mistake. The harsh reality is that no other team is going to feel sorry for them. If they want to start winning, they simply need to roll up their sleeves and compete.

GOOD NEWS...

They did lose another player to injury on Saturday, Anton Belov, but two Oilers will return to the lineup tonight.

Devan Dubnyk's ankle has healed and he'll make his first start since October 24th. Dubnyk is the best goalie they have, and the Oilers must be hoping he can make some big saves early and inject some confidence into a lineup that looks beaten down.

Ryan Smyth also returns after injuring his groin vs. the Senators on October 19th. At this point in his career, Smyth isn't a go-to guy, but he at least knows how to play hard and go to the net. The Oilers need more guys willing to do the small things, if they ever hope to start winning.

They have to realize that they can't beat teams with skill. You need more than just skill to win in the NHL.

LINEUP....

Hemsky-RNH-Eberle
Smyth-Gagner-Yakupov
Jones-Gordon-Arcobello
Gazdic-Acton-Eager

Eakins moved Yakupov back to the right side with the hope he'll be more comfortable and start producing. With Smyth on his wing, Yakupov is clearly the shooter on that line, and if he uses his heavy shot, while Smyth stands in front, the Oilers might get an ugly goal or two.

Ference-Petry
Smid-Larsen
N.Schultz-Fedun

Eakins has three new pairings. Taylor Fedun will make his NHL debut, and every fan is pulling for him to complete an incredible comeback story. Smid and Petry haven't looked in sync for a few games, so it can't hurt splitting them up.

As I stated earlier, the pairings won't matter if the Oilers don't play with passion.

We can discuss the system, the line combinations, which wing Yakupov is playing or many other aspects of this team, but ultimately if they don't play with desire or passion it won't matter.

Remember when the Oilers of 1997-2004 had little proven talent, yet they managed to be competitive. Why?

Because they had players like Ethan Moreau, Todd Marchant, Jason Smith, Mike Grier, Steve Staios, Ryan Smyth and others who played hard. They weren't the most skilled team, but the worked their ass of every night. This team has more natural skill, but if they don't work hard, or work smart, it is irrelevant.

If the Oilers show a willingness to compete tonight, they will have a shot at beating a team that isn't very good.

QUICK HITS...

  • Craig MacTavish, Kevin Lowe and Mark Messier were scouting the Rangers/Ducks game last night, and since it is safe to assume they weren't watching Dustin Penner, it seems likely they were watching the Rangers. The Rangers, like the Oilers, are struggling and the Rangers need offence. Rick Nash is still suffering concussion-like symptoms and he isn't close to returning, so the Rangers will be looking for some offensive help.

    Ales Hemsky's name has come up again, and so has Nail Yakupov. A deal involving Hemsky would likely have the Oilers eating part of his salary, since the Rangers don't have much cap space, and no one they would trade that is close to $5 million cap hit.

    If a deal involved Yakupov, then we are looking at a major trade, and I'd guess Ryan McDonagh would need to be involved. The Oilers are in no rush to move Yakupov, but to even consider it; they would need a solid D-man coming to Edmonton. McDonagh is a $4.7 cap hit until the end of the 2018/2019 season.
     
  • It is interesting to notice the difference between Eskimo fans and Oilers fans, many of whom are the same people. Many Eskimos fans ripped Ricky Ray and wanted him traded, yet in hockey most of the venom is directed towards the coach or GM. I've never seen a key Oiler player take as much criticism from the fans as I did Ray. Any idea why that is?
     
  • The Oilers couldn't have asked for a better place to start their road trip than in Florida. The Oilers have won their last four meetings in Florida dating back to 2003 and they've outscored them 13-6.
     
  • If you need some positives to convince you to watch tonight's tilt:

    Dubnyk has a career .963 SV% and 0.93 GAA vs. the Panthers.
    Ben Eager has four goals vs. the Panthers, the most he's scored against any team.
    Ryan Jones has two goals in three career games vs. Florida.
    Smyth has 21 points in 18 career games vs. the Panthers.
    The odds are good one Oiler will register their first career goal vs. Florida tonight: Acton, Arcobello, Eberle, Fedun, Ference, Gagner, Gazdic, Larsen, Nugent-Hopkins, Petry, Smid and Yakupov have never scored a goal vs. the Panthers.

CRYSTAL BALL....

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Just when you think you are about to stop caring, the Oilers will find a way to draw you back in with a 3-1 victory.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers play better than they did on Saturday. ***Really bold prediction.***

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Fedun scores his first NHL goal. Right now the Oilers and their fans need a beacon of hope. Something to make them believe this 87-month losing drought will eventually end. That's right; you've just entered your 87 months of losing hockey since September, 2006. You need something to make you believe their is hope, and if a local boy, who shattered his leg two years ago can score in his NHL debut, then damn rights the Oilers can eventually return to the land of winning.

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#51 Hunter5
November 05 2013, 02:02PM
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The Greatest Show on Earth. Go on Stub Hub for a whopping $4.45 you can see the Oilers play Florida. I'm betting the actual attendance will be under 5000 people.

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#52 Ari Gold
November 05 2013, 07:20PM
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3 goals from guys that were all expected to be buried in the AHL this year. They all looked excited to score. Now if only our high paid players would step off their thrones to actually work a couple shifts.

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#53 Johnnydapunk
November 05 2013, 08:04PM
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There were no winners in that game...

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#54 Reg Dunlop
November 05 2013, 11:20PM
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@David S

If you have ANY guts in your stool, see a gastroenterologist. As for Gagner, 1 is plenty as he couldn't check before he was forced into the full visor. Arcobello is an upgrade at 1/5 the cost.

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#55 Oiler4ever
November 05 2013, 12:17PM
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I'm not giving up on the oilers, for years they would tease us with hot starts then fizzle off and miss the playoffs in the end. This to me signals a change , a reversal in luck. When hall comes back it will be like when horcoff came back in the lineup last season and they climbed back into a playoff spot. Trust me I have never in my lifetime seen the oilers lose this much but if there is one team that literally rubs there face in sh@t before getting any reward it's the oilers. Even the season when they went to the playoffs they had a ton of bad bounces but crawled into 8 th place. Nothing has been easy for the oilers. This season is no different. When things are this bad(and the worst things have been) the reward can equally be as good. Oilers crawl in the dance again this year by having a good November and a great December. Remember where u heard it first.

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#56 Fresh Mess
November 05 2013, 01:46PM
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It is only a matter of time before the unproductive Hemsky goes down with an injury. Trade him for a draft pick, anything, quickly.

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#57 Archaeologuy
November 05 2013, 03:17PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He is a consultant, although the Oilers haven't officially said what his role is.

Special VP of Leaderiness

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#58 vetinari
November 05 2013, 06:40PM
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Good for Arcobello. Great for Fedun!

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#59 Serious Gord
November 05 2013, 08:01PM
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Dubnyk strikes Again. Last two were his fault.

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#60 rectal place
November 05 2013, 08:03PM
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Dubnyk straight to his knees on the goal again... Must think the puck is a c0ck.

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#61 MessyEH!
November 05 2013, 02:08PM
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Cheering for Fedun. I hope he does well.

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#62 bdiddy18
November 05 2013, 04:12PM
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"•It is interesting to notice the difference between Eskimo fans and Oilers fans, many of whom are the same people. Many Eskimos fans ripped Ricky Ray and wanted him traded, yet in hockey most of the venom is directed towards the coach or GM. I've never seen a key Oiler player take as much criticism from the fans as I did Ray. Any idea why that is?"

Much like management fans treated the kids - well like kids.

Wasn't the case before..Arnott, Poti, Conklin, Cory Cross, you name it have suffered Oiler Fan Wrath.

Its time to start it up again... Eberle needs to hear it when he tries a toe drag instead of a shot.

Hall with his turnovers . Yakopov with his play on both ends. Justin Shultz with his poor play.

Boys need to become men..and the fans need to stop sheltering them and have them start to hear it! after all Ebs and Hall are multi million dollar players now they need to play like one!

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#63 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 05 2013, 06:36PM
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Mark Fedun down as one of my favorite Oilers all time, Hollywood couldn't have written it better.

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#64 Rocket
November 05 2013, 12:06PM
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*Tim Thomas joke*

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#65 sizzay
November 05 2013, 01:31PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

Ales Hemsky for Chris Kreider plus late pick?

Would never happen

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#66 spliff
November 05 2013, 06:04PM
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WTF was Samwise doing on the Goc goal? Very very weak effort. And I just read a bunch of quotes from a Journal article from Gagner where he talks about being accountable and better effort, yadda yadda yadda.

We need much more effort.

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#67 Ari Gold
November 05 2013, 07:58PM
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Bahahaha! Our team sucks so bad!

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#68 ubermiguel
November 05 2013, 08:01PM
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Do the little things all the time. Like clear the puck when you're 3 feet from the blue line, right Hemsky? Amazing how one small error from one guy can change the course of a game.

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#69 outdoorzguy
November 05 2013, 08:10PM
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I thought we won the Stanley Cup tonight based on the announcers reaction!! We're still a really crappy team though. That was really an embarrassment.

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#70 Naky
November 05 2013, 08:48PM
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So many people saying trade Gagner. Do some research at least, sheesh. He has a NTC for two years. It doesn't officially kick in until next year but they have a gentleman's agreement to uphold it. You hate this management? You'll hate it more if they break that agreement since the word will spread quite quickly through the PA that the Oilers management doesn't uphold their promises.

Gagner's here to stay for two more seasons. Deal with it.

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#71 Chainsawz
November 05 2013, 09:53PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

C'mon, that Oiler lineup is mostly AHL caliber. Oil put in a better effort but they're still a free space on the Panthers bingo card tonight. Oilers will atleast score a goal this evening, Barkov gains some confidence with a 3 pt night..... 5-1 Florida.

Taylor flippin Fedun......is that all they have in reserve during these difficult times?

Stay the course Oilersnation, tankage certainly appears to be on the Oils agenda. And i'm fine with that.

Taylor flipping Fedun indeed

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#72 6zeppelin6
November 05 2013, 12:07PM
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With regards to ripping the GM and Coach versus the player - I think that has more to do with the core of the team not proving much of anything yet. They haven't had success and achievement throughout their careers, whereas Ricky Ray had excelled at a professional level in the past.

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#73 Spoils
November 05 2013, 12:08PM
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I am pulling for Fedun, but I kind of wish Klefbom was playing so well that they just had bring him up.

Here is the list of DMen that were first team allstars at the WJC -

Phaneuf, Suter - Bourdon, JJohnson - Letang, EJohnson - Doughty, Hedman - Karlsson, PK - Pitrangelo, Carlson - Ellis, Orlov - Gormley, Klefbom - Trouba, McCabe

Pretty great company.

No1 DMen...

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#74 GTL
November 05 2013, 12:40PM
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The brain trust mind melding for a possible Hail Mary?..what could possibly go wrong? This to is all wrong but the flames drop two contracts and hire a educated leader and instant rebuild in process, no three first picks, no selling out or short. I can taste throw up just writing that. Hire leaders of men! In all areas, I'm not seeing player development

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#75 Lochenzo
November 05 2013, 01:20PM
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The other reason to watch is Taylor Fedun. Congrats to Taylor!

Happy to see Petry and Ference together. Hope the other pairs can just settle in behind these guys. Good balance of puck mover and defensive Dman, but Fedun and Larsson in the same game means a smaller defense.

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#76 FIREEAKINS
November 05 2013, 03:52PM
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Oilers game today? mah. I have better things to do than watch the Oilers "play" hockey. They have let me down 10 times already this season. I don't need to deal with the anger/stress involved with watching this "team" play.

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#77 Retsinnab5
November 05 2013, 04:08PM
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You know your fan base has hit an all-time low when...

How many wins will the Oilers have on their four-game road trip?

Three or more: 12.77% Two: 17.04% One: 24.96% None: 45.24%

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#78 **
November 05 2013, 04:30PM
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"I've never seen a key Oiler player take as much criticism from the fans as I did Ray. Any idea why that is?"

Someone missed on the Dubnyk-hate storm that's been coming down for the past month.

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#79 HOFFFF
November 05 2013, 04:36PM
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I find it funny that Eakins takes down all the memories of the Great Oilers, back when the team had pride, pride in the jersey, pride in the city and had an identity. Yet Lowe, Mctavish, Buchberger, Acton, Smith and now Messier are wandering around. Doesn't make sense. Removing the history of the Oilers means they have to find their own identity. It's working out well for them so far. Montreal, Toronto, Boston are all proud teams and proud of their past and have reminders all over the arena and dressing rooms. Reminders that when you put that jersey on that it's time to step the fcuk up. Eakins felt it necessary to remove all that. Now we have a bunch of kids walking around bumping in to each other like a junior team. Just something I see as part of this debacle of epic proportions. I also think having three #1 draft picks and then hiring a coach with zero NHL experience is like buying a brand new sports car and then throwing the keys to a kid with his learners license and saying "take it for a ride and see what she can do!"

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#80 outdoorzguy
November 05 2013, 07:24PM
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Looking at the empty stands in the arena...now that's how Rexall should look every night for the next month to send a message to management and Katz!!

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#81 WARREN
November 05 2013, 07:30PM
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i'm watching the florida feed in phx

2 very bad teams.

they have no fans, stands are mt

nhl should be embarrassed as much as i am as a fan

3rd period starts the stands are emptier

you do realize 280$ season ticket holders your money goes to florida

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#82 Jakethesnake
November 05 2013, 08:03PM
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Just once this f..no goalie needs to make a big save. Wow

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#83 Ari Gold
November 05 2013, 08:35PM
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The Oilers looked pathetic and disinterested again. Fortunately they played a team that was less than half of the Wings team they played a few nights ago.

Pathetic turnovers. Poor goaltending. No skating. AHL personnel scoring. Our highest paid players playing the worst.

Watching the Wings play, they had talent, hard work, effort to buy-in to the system. They had everything I could want in a team except one thing, they weren't the Oilers. I love/hate this team.

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#84 Stack Pad Save
November 05 2013, 09:51PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

You are changing your opinion based on 3 games after he has came back early from a major surgery. Disappointing.

Gagner has always been my GOAT.

I don't know what people see in him. He goes 10-20 game stretches of complete ineptitude and than has a game with a fight or scores 8 points and all the band wagon jumpers go look, isn't Gagner great! And than........ 20 more games of ineptitude.

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#85 shanetrain
November 05 2013, 12:13PM
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I was one of those fans who wanted nothing to do with Ricky Ray at the end. He was playing like a shadow of himself. Holding onto the ball too long etc.

I just didn't expect him to get dealt for virtually nothing.

Personally, I am worried about Yakupov. Yes he has incredible offensive accumen, but in his own zone he is lost. That is being complimentary. When he is not filling the net fans/basement dwelling bloggers and their minions are going to key in on it.

Nobody is going to take Hemsky now, not with that putrid contract and his invisibility in long stretches.

Too bad, two years ago he could of possibly brought in a #2 Dman by himself.

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#86 NsxZero
November 05 2013, 12:35PM
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@Oiler4ever

Honestly even if the Oilers play magnificent, we would need the other western teams to play like crap. It definitely isn't looking that way so far...

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#87 Reg Dunlop
November 05 2013, 12:39PM
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Starting tonight, only 6 more consecutive losses before D-day vs Calgary.

Deal Yak now before his lack of production and the perceived KHL flight risk renders him worthless. Watch Mac bring back DelZotto for him; another small, defensively suspect JS clone. Gotta hit bottom before you can climb out. 3-2 Florida with Whitney getting the winner.

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#88 Jeff
November 05 2013, 01:11PM
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ok, prepare your fingers on the trash button:

"•It is interesting to notice the difference between Eskimo fans and Oilers fans, many of whom are the same people. Many Eskimos fans ripped Ricky Ray and wanted him traded, yet in hockey most of the venom is directed towards the coach or GM. I've never seen a key Oiler player take as much criticism from the fans as I did Ray. Any idea why that is?"

it is very simple.... and your quote eludes to the very thing that is the fundamental problem... parapharse, boss says Go and a leader says Let's Go.....

If, and a very big If, our leader, Coach is saying Let's Go... and the players are not going with the Coach.... what does that tell you.

To say why Oiler's fans are ripping a coach... why are you head over heals for this coach....?

The tweak to our defense system in the last couples games has not help our team...

There is a lost of faith in the room in the players own ability and the coaches ability... which both equate to a very scary and worrysome result.

My fear lies around our "elite" players looking at our "new" culture and starting to make request to get out of Edmonotn.... deja vu?

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#89 tileguy
November 05 2013, 02:04PM
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The odds are good one Oiler will register their first career goal vs. Florida tonight: Acton, Arcobello, Eberle, Fedun, Ference, Gagner, Gazdic, Larsen, Nugent-Hopkins, Petry, Smid and Yakupov have never scored a goal vs. the Panthers.

Maybe good odds but no guarantee.

The only reason to watch tonight is to cheer on Fedun.

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#90 Smokey
November 05 2013, 03:47PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

"Craig MacTavish, Kevin Lowe and Mark Messier were scouting the Rangers/Ducks game last night"

My question is, why were there no real scouts there? Does that not trouble anyone else?

Management groups scouting players is not uncommon, and its frankly these bums job unfortunately to be scouting.

What concerns me with all those big wigs and Messier; who I guess we can consider to be part of the management group now, is that a group of such magnitude signals something big.

Obviously the names are McDonough or Stall, and Yakupov and or Hemsky. Yak for McDonough +, I could live with it, but it irritates me we are considering it.

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#91 Serious Gord
November 05 2013, 04:38PM
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Lloyd B. wrote:

I believe that Messiers job is to walk through the dressing room. If any players jersey is on the floor, crumpled in the corner of his locker and not hung up and proudly displayed, Mess is to pick that fella up by the scruff of the neck and introduce him to pride. Pride of the FRONT of the jersey. Pride in the City. Pride that they get to play a kids game for BIG money. Pride in being an NHL player and not just a hockey player. Pride in his name being respected, not only in the City but in the NHL. That's what is missing the most with this team. PRIDE in the work they do. That is what is missing the most on this team in my honest opinion. Hey I just got the acronym IMHO!! I reckon we see massive improvement immediately!!

Well mess will have to do that via satellite feed because there is no way he's leaving New York for the North American version of Siberia. So much for pride in the oilers...

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#92 rectal place
November 05 2013, 07:20PM
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Ryan Whitney wrote:

Man am I ever a useless plug....I left the Oilers cause i'm too good for them but yet I am loosing to them!

Sorry to troll but... loosing isn't a word, losing is. Pet peave, I hope this makes your life a little bit better.

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#93 Spoils
November 05 2013, 01:26PM
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The worst thing / or best thing is that I just went to the Oilers website and I saw a pick of Schultz and Yakupov and I got excited for the game today.

How can I be excited for the game tonight?

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#94 Lochenzo
November 05 2013, 01:27PM
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Ales Hemsky for Chris Kreider plus late pick?

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#95 Lochenzo
November 05 2013, 01:32PM
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Ricky Ray went on to win the Grey Cup after being traded.

If you hash it out, you gotta eat you're humble pie too. I noticed that some people don't follow that rule.

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#96 BIGDAWG
November 05 2013, 01:40PM
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am not a big fan of Gags and I didn't like the term and money he got. he would be the first player I would trade. As far as the coach.. we have him for this and next year for sure.. so peeps... you gotta stop cryin about the coach. he isn't going anywhere... Do I agree with some of the things he does... no but he is here and I doubt Mac T lets him go at this point.

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#97 BleedingOil
November 05 2013, 05:59PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

What a laughingly terrible defensive sequence that lead to that goal.

I blame Yakupov for that one.

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#98 Lofty
November 05 2013, 06:03PM
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BleedingOil wrote:

I blame Yakupov for that one.

Smyth was also taking a nap down low.

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#99 Larry
November 05 2013, 06:03PM
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BleedingOil wrote:

I blame Yakupov for that one.

Nope. Watch it again and watch Gagner

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#100 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
November 05 2013, 06:34PM
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Attaboy Arco!

Also: Whitney still sucks.

EDIT: Fedun! What a beauty.

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