GDB 16.0: JUST SHOW UP...

Jason Gregor
November 05 2013 11:59AM

It won't matter what the line combinations are if the Oilers elect to sleep walk through tonight's game like they did Saturday vs. the Detroit Red Wings. Hockey fans, coaches and players can accept losing, as long as you put forth an effort, but the Edmonton Oilers barely registered a pulse vs. the Wings.

Whatever happens tonight, the Oiler must show they care.

I watched the game on Saturday with some diehard Oilers fans and they were distraught during and after the game. These are fans, like many of you, who buy tickets, jerseys and have supported the Oilers through seven years of sucking. They love hockey, and as long as the Oilers put forth an effort that satisfies most of you.

What you saw on Saturday was pathetic.

The Oilers showed no desire. Not one player looked remotely annoyed that they were getting embarrassed in front of their home fans and on national TV.

I rarely will say players don't care, because you don't make it to the best league in the world without caring, but on Saturday night their "care meter" barely registered.

It is obvious this team lacks confidence right now. No one is shooting the puck with any authority, and it seems most players are scared to make a mistake. The harsh reality is that no other team is going to feel sorry for them. If they want to start winning, they simply need to roll up their sleeves and compete.

GOOD NEWS...

They did lose another player to injury on Saturday, Anton Belov, but two Oilers will return to the lineup tonight.

Devan Dubnyk's ankle has healed and he'll make his first start since October 24th. Dubnyk is the best goalie they have, and the Oilers must be hoping he can make some big saves early and inject some confidence into a lineup that looks beaten down.

Ryan Smyth also returns after injuring his groin vs. the Senators on October 19th. At this point in his career, Smyth isn't a go-to guy, but he at least knows how to play hard and go to the net. The Oilers need more guys willing to do the small things, if they ever hope to start winning.

They have to realize that they can't beat teams with skill. You need more than just skill to win in the NHL.

LINEUP....

Hemsky-RNH-Eberle
Smyth-Gagner-Yakupov
Jones-Gordon-Arcobello
Gazdic-Acton-Eager

Eakins moved Yakupov back to the right side with the hope he'll be more comfortable and start producing. With Smyth on his wing, Yakupov is clearly the shooter on that line, and if he uses his heavy shot, while Smyth stands in front, the Oilers might get an ugly goal or two.

Ference-Petry
Smid-Larsen
N.Schultz-Fedun

Eakins has three new pairings. Taylor Fedun will make his NHL debut, and every fan is pulling for him to complete an incredible comeback story. Smid and Petry haven't looked in sync for a few games, so it can't hurt splitting them up.

As I stated earlier, the pairings won't matter if the Oilers don't play with passion.

We can discuss the system, the line combinations, which wing Yakupov is playing or many other aspects of this team, but ultimately if they don't play with desire or passion it won't matter.

Remember when the Oilers of 1997-2004 had little proven talent, yet they managed to be competitive. Why?

Because they had players like Ethan Moreau, Todd Marchant, Jason Smith, Mike Grier, Steve Staios, Ryan Smyth and others who played hard. They weren't the most skilled team, but the worked their ass of every night. This team has more natural skill, but if they don't work hard, or work smart, it is irrelevant.

If the Oilers show a willingness to compete tonight, they will have a shot at beating a team that isn't very good.

QUICK HITS...

  • Craig MacTavish, Kevin Lowe and Mark Messier were scouting the Rangers/Ducks game last night, and since it is safe to assume they weren't watching Dustin Penner, it seems likely they were watching the Rangers. The Rangers, like the Oilers, are struggling and the Rangers need offence. Rick Nash is still suffering concussion-like symptoms and he isn't close to returning, so the Rangers will be looking for some offensive help.

    Ales Hemsky's name has come up again, and so has Nail Yakupov. A deal involving Hemsky would likely have the Oilers eating part of his salary, since the Rangers don't have much cap space, and no one they would trade that is close to $5 million cap hit.

    If a deal involved Yakupov, then we are looking at a major trade, and I'd guess Ryan McDonagh would need to be involved. The Oilers are in no rush to move Yakupov, but to even consider it; they would need a solid D-man coming to Edmonton. McDonagh is a $4.7 cap hit until the end of the 2018/2019 season.
     
  • It is interesting to notice the difference between Eskimo fans and Oilers fans, many of whom are the same people. Many Eskimos fans ripped Ricky Ray and wanted him traded, yet in hockey most of the venom is directed towards the coach or GM. I've never seen a key Oiler player take as much criticism from the fans as I did Ray. Any idea why that is?
     
  • The Oilers couldn't have asked for a better place to start their road trip than in Florida. The Oilers have won their last four meetings in Florida dating back to 2003 and they've outscored them 13-6.
     
  • If you need some positives to convince you to watch tonight's tilt:

    Dubnyk has a career .963 SV% and 0.93 GAA vs. the Panthers.
    Ben Eager has four goals vs. the Panthers, the most he's scored against any team.
    Ryan Jones has two goals in three career games vs. Florida.
    Smyth has 21 points in 18 career games vs. the Panthers.
    The odds are good one Oiler will register their first career goal vs. Florida tonight: Acton, Arcobello, Eberle, Fedun, Ference, Gagner, Gazdic, Larsen, Nugent-Hopkins, Petry, Smid and Yakupov have never scored a goal vs. the Panthers.

CRYSTAL BALL....

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Just when you think you are about to stop caring, the Oilers will find a way to draw you back in with a 3-1 victory.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers play better than they did on Saturday. ***Really bold prediction.***

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Fedun scores his first NHL goal. Right now the Oilers and their fans need a beacon of hope. Something to make them believe this 87-month losing drought will eventually end. That's right; you've just entered your 87 months of losing hockey since September, 2006. You need something to make you believe their is hope, and if a local boy, who shattered his leg two years ago can score in his NHL debut, then damn rights the Oilers can eventually return to the land of winning.

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#1 Quicksilver ballet
November 05 2013, 12:28PM
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C'mon, that Oiler lineup is mostly AHL caliber. Oil put in a better effort but they're still a free space on the Panthers bingo card tonight. Oilers will atleast score a goal this evening, Barkov gains some confidence with a 3 pt night..... 5-1 Florida.

Taylor flippin Fedun......is that all they have in reserve during these difficult times?

Stay the course Oilersnation, tankage certainly appears to be on the Oils agenda. And i'm fine with that.

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#2 DSF
November 05 2013, 06:27PM
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Happy wrote:

What do people around here think the Oilers could get for Nail Yakupov?

A 2nd round pick.

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#3 DSF
November 05 2013, 08:08PM
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ubermiguel wrote:

Arco!!! He's tied for the lead in Oilers scoring right now. Yikes.

It's quite sad actually.

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#4 Oilersrule
November 05 2013, 07:58PM
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Oilers sure look good. If they played like this against Detroit, I think they win. Teams like Pittsburgh, Boston, San Jose better watch out...... The Oil are coming!!

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#5 A-Mc
November 05 2013, 04:42PM
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Trade ideas:

Gagner + Prospect + pick (No Klefbom or Nurse) for David Backes (STL).

Jordan Eberle + Nail Yakupov (and Possibly Dubnyk) to Rangers for McDonagh and Lundqvist (Conditional on him signing with Edm for 4+ years). If Duby is thrown in, maybe we look to also get Hagelin as part of the return if we think we're overpaying?

Gained

David Backes, 6'3 221 lbs Centerman (29)
Ryan McDonagh, 6'1 213 lbs Defenseman (24)
Henrik Lundqvist, excellent Goalie (31)
(Possibly) Carl Hagelin,

Lost

Jordan Eberle
Nail Yakupov
Sam Gagner
(possibly Duby)
Prospect
Pick

I could be undervaluing our young guns, but i could also be undervaluing what it takes to steal a #1 center from STL and top tier Goalie from NYR. Unfortunately we're creating a bit of a hole on the right side and we still have Hemsky to do something with. Unfortunately i dont think hemsky holds much value on the trade market, so he likely wouldnt be a piece in this deal in place of Eberle or Yakupov. We'd likely have to re-sign Hemsky.

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#6 Reg Dunlop
November 05 2013, 12:39PM
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Starting tonight, only 6 more consecutive losses before D-day vs Calgary.

Deal Yak now before his lack of production and the perceived KHL flight risk renders him worthless. Watch Mac bring back DelZotto for him; another small, defensively suspect JS clone. Gotta hit bottom before you can climb out. 3-2 Florida with Whitney getting the winner.

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#7 madjam
November 05 2013, 03:47PM
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If Oilers were to put Hemsky on waivers , would anyone pick him up ? Seems better than paying half his salary to unload a player I doubt would want to be here next year anyways .

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#8 rectal place
November 05 2013, 08:03PM
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Dubnyk straight to his knees on the goal again... Must think the puck is a c0ck.

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#9 DSF
November 05 2013, 07:07PM
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Todd wrote:

Hey DSF - Remember when you said Tambelinni should learn from Dale Talon and that Florida was an example to strive for.

Thoughts now???

The Panthers are broke and once again looking for new owners.

Tallon's hands are pretty much tied.

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#10 thepeetso
November 05 2013, 12:45PM
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northof51 wrote:

Still don't like Gagner at centre with Arco on the wing.

I still don't like Gagner . . .

. . . on this team anyways.

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#11 Oiler4ever
November 05 2013, 12:17PM
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I'm not giving up on the oilers, for years they would tease us with hot starts then fizzle off and miss the playoffs in the end. This to me signals a change , a reversal in luck. When hall comes back it will be like when horcoff came back in the lineup last season and they climbed back into a playoff spot. Trust me I have never in my lifetime seen the oilers lose this much but if there is one team that literally rubs there face in sh@t before getting any reward it's the oilers. Even the season when they went to the playoffs they had a ton of bad bounces but crawled into 8 th place. Nothing has been easy for the oilers. This season is no different. When things are this bad(and the worst things have been) the reward can equally be as good. Oilers crawl in the dance again this year by having a good November and a great December. Remember where u heard it first.

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#12 Bi-Curious Gord
November 05 2013, 01:08PM
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Obvious Game Day Pediction:

Oilers lose 8-0

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#13 DSF
November 05 2013, 07:10PM
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Todd wrote:

"Tallon, like any smart GM, made a bunch of bets. He won them all. (Perhaps excepting Jovanovski). Now, that means he is either very lucky or very smart. Considering his success in Chicago, I'd put my money on the latter."

@DSF Aug 2012

Lose much money on that bet??!?

How is Tambellini doing?

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#14 Oilers rule
November 05 2013, 07:33PM
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NOW THIS IS THE TEAM WE ALL THOUGHT THEY COULD BE. THIS SHOWS HOW ELITE THIS TEAM REALLY IS. IT SHOWS HOW GREAT OUR COACH IS TOO. ALL IS RIGHT IN THE WORLD!!

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#15 Naky
November 05 2013, 08:48PM
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So many people saying trade Gagner. Do some research at least, sheesh. He has a NTC for two years. It doesn't officially kick in until next year but they have a gentleman's agreement to uphold it. You hate this management? You'll hate it more if they break that agreement since the word will spread quite quickly through the PA that the Oilers management doesn't uphold their promises.

Gagner's here to stay for two more seasons. Deal with it.

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#16 Fresh Mess
November 05 2013, 06:32PM
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DSF wrote:

A 2nd round pick.

I was thinking the same. A first rounder from a contender (#'s12 through 18) at most.

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#17 Me common sense
November 05 2013, 12:20PM
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Still no grit or muscle

Sign/trade/abduct Steve Ott

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#18 Jeff
November 05 2013, 01:11PM
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ok, prepare your fingers on the trash button:

"•It is interesting to notice the difference between Eskimo fans and Oilers fans, many of whom are the same people. Many Eskimos fans ripped Ricky Ray and wanted him traded, yet in hockey most of the venom is directed towards the coach or GM. I've never seen a key Oiler player take as much criticism from the fans as I did Ray. Any idea why that is?"

it is very simple.... and your quote eludes to the very thing that is the fundamental problem... parapharse, boss says Go and a leader says Let's Go.....

If, and a very big If, our leader, Coach is saying Let's Go... and the players are not going with the Coach.... what does that tell you.

To say why Oiler's fans are ripping a coach... why are you head over heals for this coach....?

The tweak to our defense system in the last couples games has not help our team...

There is a lost of faith in the room in the players own ability and the coaches ability... which both equate to a very scary and worrysome result.

My fear lies around our "elite" players looking at our "new" culture and starting to make request to get out of Edmonotn.... deja vu?

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#19 Quicksilver ballet
November 05 2013, 03:40PM
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Oiler injuries are compounded buy the fact they have so little cap room left to create any measureable amount of depth.

The season was Dead via paper cut, even before training camp started.

MacTavish has no other option but to put AHL'ers, in NHL jerseys throughout the bottom half of his roster.

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#20 joshgladu
November 05 2013, 02:06PM
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any trade with NYR should start and end with hagelin. what a hockey player he is. before the mouth breathers talk about size just look at his analytics

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#21 Quicksilver ballet
November 05 2013, 03:25PM
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joshgladu wrote:

any trade with NYR should start and end with hagelin. what a hockey player he is. before the mouth breathers talk about size just look at his analytics

Is this the same Hagelin you're talking about?

http://youtu.be/wZZVsdxflsA

Coach Killer you think, Oil may have enough of those already. Analyze that!

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#22 shanetrain
November 05 2013, 12:13PM
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I was one of those fans who wanted nothing to do with Ricky Ray at the end. He was playing like a shadow of himself. Holding onto the ball too long etc.

I just didn't expect him to get dealt for virtually nothing.

Personally, I am worried about Yakupov. Yes he has incredible offensive accumen, but in his own zone he is lost. That is being complimentary. When he is not filling the net fans/basement dwelling bloggers and their minions are going to key in on it.

Nobody is going to take Hemsky now, not with that putrid contract and his invisibility in long stretches.

Too bad, two years ago he could of possibly brought in a #2 Dman by himself.

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#23 jordan starr
November 05 2013, 03:50PM
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http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/edmonton-oilers-managment-group-darryl-katz-enforce-their-message-of-accountability-and-hold-kevin-lowe-responsible-for-this-debacle-of-a-season-either-resigning-or-fired?sign_only=fe

sign the petition if you want change. beats yelling at thr tv and not doing anything about it. the fans will be heard.

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#24 Oiler Haters
November 05 2013, 07:18PM
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How about my boys now??? Better start jumping back on the bandwagon cause genre we go! Way to go LOWE!

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#25 bazmagoo
November 05 2013, 08:51PM
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It's official, Sam Gagner is the new GOAT in Oil country. I used to like Gags, but -6 in his first three games back with an abysmal face off percentage yet again. Come on dude, WTF! Said a few weeks back and I'll say it again - Arcobello is already an improvement. Step it up Sammy!

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#26 Craig1981
November 05 2013, 08:56PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

It's official, Sam Gagner is the new GOAT in Oil country. I used to like Gags, but -6 in his first three games back with an abysmal face off percentage yet again. Come on dude, WTF! Said a few weeks back and I'll say it again - Arcobello is already an improvement. Step it up Sammy!

You are changing your opinion based on 3 games after he has came back early from a major surgery. Disappointing.

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#27 Rocket
November 05 2013, 12:06PM
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*Tim Thomas joke*

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#28 DSF
November 05 2013, 02:37PM
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So, is this game the start of the relegation round?

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#29 WARREN
November 05 2013, 07:49PM
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i think hemsky is the problem...

and no one wants him

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#30 outdoorzguy
November 05 2013, 08:12PM
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Hey Big Mouth Jerk wrote:

We beat your Panthers....hahaha..........!!! LOSER!

Really?? Too much of this stuff going on here. I'm off this site. Bye bye!!!

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#31 God
November 05 2013, 08:35PM
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The Oilers looked pathetic and disinterested again. Fortunately they played a team that was less than half of the Wings team they played a few nights ago.

Pathetic turnovers. Poor goaltending. No skating. AHL personnel scoring. Our highest paid players playing the worst.

Watching the Wings play, they had talent, hard work, effort to buy-in to the system. They had everything I could want in a team except one thing, they weren't the Oilers. I love/hate this team.

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#32 Danger Pay
November 05 2013, 12:12PM
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Still finding it tough to watch this one Gregor.

B/C I think there's some snow I still need to shovel or garbage to take out or dishes to wash or laundry to do or dogs to feed and walk or a workout to do or make dinner or bills to pay or dusting to do or make the bed or catch up with some family or news to watch or...anything except watch the Oilers.

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#33 Serious Gord
November 05 2013, 05:09PM
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Rocket wrote:

If you want to insult the city of Edmonton, there are prolly a few Canucks blogs you can go to.

It is what it is. Take a look out your window.

And there is no denying that it is regarded as a type of Siberia to many in the NHL and elsewhere.

Embrace it.

Don't hope in vain that someone like mess is coming back. (Or send him a DVD about the place like Klowe did with heatley - a native if Calgary.)

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#34 Greg
November 05 2013, 07:17PM
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Just checked the score and saw that the oil are leading. I don't know why, I can't quite explain it, but part of me was disappointed to see that...

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#35 Serious Gord
November 05 2013, 08:01PM
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Dubnyk strikes Again. Last two were his fault.

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#36 Jakethesnake
November 05 2013, 08:10PM
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Get a goalie and keep arco and get rid of gags.

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#37 Rheal1
November 05 2013, 08:11PM
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OLE OLE OLE OLE

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#38 Stack Pad Save
November 05 2013, 09:51PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

You are changing your opinion based on 3 games after he has came back early from a major surgery. Disappointing.

Gagner has always been my GOAT.

I don't know what people see in him. He goes 10-20 game stretches of complete ineptitude and than has a game with a fight or scores 8 points and all the band wagon jumpers go look, isn't Gagner great! And than........ 20 more games of ineptitude.

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#39 6zeppelin6
November 05 2013, 12:07PM
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With regards to ripping the GM and Coach versus the player - I think that has more to do with the core of the team not proving much of anything yet. They haven't had success and achievement throughout their careers, whereas Ricky Ray had excelled at a professional level in the past.

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#40 BIngBong
November 05 2013, 12:08PM
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I don't want to be mistaken for DSF, but that Smyth-Gagner-Yakupov line looks like TROUBLE.

And what are the odds that either Whitney or Gilbert scores tonight?

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#41 GTL
November 05 2013, 12:40PM
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The brain trust mind melding for a possible Hail Mary?..what could possibly go wrong? This to is all wrong but the flames drop two contracts and hire a educated leader and instant rebuild in process, no three first picks, no selling out or short. I can taste throw up just writing that. Hire leaders of men! In all areas, I'm not seeing player development

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#42 Tikkanese
November 05 2013, 03:29PM
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"Craig MacTavish, Kevin Lowe and Mark Messier were scouting the Rangers/Ducks game last night"

My question is, why were there no real scouts there? Does that not trouble anyone else?

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#43 Smokey
November 05 2013, 03:37PM
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@BIngBong

I think you got a scorer, and grinder and a playmaker. Smyth knows how to little things to make a line work. If he needs to play defensively, he will do that. If the line needs boardwork or a guy in front he know what to do. Ryan Smyth from 6 years ago would be dynamite, but I think they'll be ok.

I hope Gibby scores a hatty, and the Oil win. Gibby a good guy, better then half the defence this year. Him as our 4/5 would be ok.

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#44 Lloyd B.
November 05 2013, 03:41PM
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I believe that Messiers job is to walk through the dressing room. If any players jersey is on the floor, crumpled in the corner of his locker and not hung up and proudly displayed, Mess is to pick that fella up by the scruff of the neck and introduce him to pride. Pride of the FRONT of the jersey. Pride in the City. Pride that they get to play a kids game for BIG money. Pride in being an NHL player and not just a hockey player. Pride in his name being respected, not only in the City but in the NHL. That's what is missing the most with this team. PRIDE in the work they do. That is what is missing the most on this team in my honest opinion. Hey I just got the acronym IMHO!! I reckon we see massive improvement immediately!!

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#45 Serious Gord
November 05 2013, 04:38PM
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Lloyd B. wrote:

I believe that Messiers job is to walk through the dressing room. If any players jersey is on the floor, crumpled in the corner of his locker and not hung up and proudly displayed, Mess is to pick that fella up by the scruff of the neck and introduce him to pride. Pride of the FRONT of the jersey. Pride in the City. Pride that they get to play a kids game for BIG money. Pride in being an NHL player and not just a hockey player. Pride in his name being respected, not only in the City but in the NHL. That's what is missing the most with this team. PRIDE in the work they do. That is what is missing the most on this team in my honest opinion. Hey I just got the acronym IMHO!! I reckon we see massive improvement immediately!!

Well mess will have to do that via satellite feed because there is no way he's leaving New York for the North American version of Siberia. So much for pride in the oilers...

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#46 Serious Gord
November 05 2013, 06:03PM
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BleedingOil wrote:

I blame Yakupov for that one.

I blame the coach.

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#47 Wonger
November 05 2013, 07:34PM
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Let's get a couple thousand people together, pool our cash and buy the Oil off of Katz. Then we will get Gregor to be our President, Brownlee the GM and Strudwick and Sutherby to be co- head coaches! They will blow this mess up and rebuild it into a WINNER!

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#48 spliff
November 05 2013, 07:46PM
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If the Oilers trade Yak or Hemsky, or whoever, can they please make sure they include Smid in the deal. Please.

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#49 God
November 05 2013, 07:58PM
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Bahahaha! Our team sucks so bad!

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#50 argh
November 05 2013, 08:01PM
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God wrote:

Bahahaha! Our team sucks so bad!

Eakins had n. Schultz and Petry out in the last minute on the tying goal! Argh!

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