Oilers deal Ladislav Smid, sign Ilya Bryzgalov

Jonathan Willis
November 08 2013 05:08PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers have traded Ladislav Smid to the Calgary Flames. Reportedly, they have also signed goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov.

The Trade

On it's own, this deal is a clear win for the Calgary Flames.

The only legitimate NHL player in this trade is Ladislav Smid. He has his faults; in particular he isn't an especially good puck-mover and has always been at his best when paired with a defenceman who can take primary responsibility for that part of the game. With that said, he is a legitimate middle-pairing defensive defenceman and a welcome physical presence, a guy who can kill penalties and has played some tough minutes over the years.

Olivier Roy is a marginal NHL goaltending prospect at this point, a guy still struggling to prove he can play regularly at the AHL level. Laurent Brossoit, an ex-Edmonton Oil King, is in his first year as a professional but is a better prospect long-term. Neither of these guys really matter in the NHL picture in the short term.

Roman Horak adds centre depth. He has 82 games of NHL experience but has spent most of this season with Abbotsford; he'll help the Barons a lot at centre right now and provides the Oilers with a second plausible call-up at that position (along with Linus Omark.

In the balance: the Oilers cleared cap space, but their NHL roster just got poorer.

Bryzgalov

Ilya Bryzgalov is a pretty good goalie. We don't have contract details yet, but the best guess is that we're looking at a one-year deal somewhere in the $2.0 - $2.5 million per year range. This isn't a totally surprising move; Jason Gregor reported it might happen not that long ago on this site.

Over the last five seasons, Bryzgalov has posted a 0.923 save percentage at even-strength. That makes him a little better than Devan Dubnyk and puts him in the same range as guys like Jonathan Quick, Carey Price and Corey Crawrford over that span. The difference is that Bryzgalov also famously imploded after being signed to a amassive ocntract by Philadelphia.

This is a good addition, particularly if he's being brought in to compete with Devan Dubnyk for playing time. It's not enough to explain the Smid trade, unless the contract is horrific. 

That's where we are now. The Oilers are better in net at the moment, significantly worse on defence and if another move doesn't come this has been a very bad night for Craig MacTavish. Another move is probably coming, and it will need to be a good one to make up for what's already happened.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#201 Harlie
November 08 2013, 08:41PM
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DSF wrote:

Good grief.

He's playing in the ECHL after being shelled in the AHL.

Easy there Charlie Brown, I said starter in 3 years, not tomorrow. Take a seat already.

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#202 PapaMike
November 08 2013, 08:42PM
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PapaMike wrote:

Man, if it is true,$3MM prorated is insane. He is already getting

stupid internets....He is already getting just under $2MM from philly. lots of cash on below average goalies imo.

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#203 Alsker
November 08 2013, 08:43PM
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How many goalies do we now have that cant play net? Ok im being a little harsh but MacT better a grip on this, there are only so many contracts. Is the Smid move done to offer Dillon Simpson a starting position ala JSchultz?

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#204 DSF
November 08 2013, 08:48PM
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Harlie wrote:

Easy there Charlie Brown, I said starter in 3 years, not tomorrow. Take a seat already.

Easy there Sparky.

There is no evidence, none, that he will ever be an NHL goaltender.

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#205 madjam
November 08 2013, 08:59PM
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Have to wonder how much better we might be if Burke were our GM /President ? A lot better ?

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#206 Oilcruzer
November 08 2013, 09:18PM
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Change was necessary. Smid was a good soldier. Better to trade a higher priced player.

Would anyone with sanity have remained status quo?

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#207 BuckNegged
November 08 2013, 09:19PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Best thing about this trade (besides Laurent Broissoit) is that MacT is Walking the Walk......to do nothing at this point, is to concede the season....which would be saying that we accept losing.......

Even though making the playoffs is an extreme long shot, you make moves now to stop the bleeding and give yourself a chance to have a winning percentage through the balance of the season.....you send a message to the room that losing is not going to be accepted and that losing has consequences.....

Even if the reality is that you're building towards next year.

So the best way to do this is trade most of what little grit you had and get another pint-sized forward in return. Give your head a shake, man!!

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#208 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 09:26PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

I'll give you a clue why the Oilers would trade Smid within the division even though he's good...

That reason has six rings, and thinks he's the smartest one in the room despite all evidence pointing in the opposite direction.

Respectfully, that makes no sense to me.......6 rings would gift his friend Brian Burke??

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#209 madjam
November 08 2013, 09:28PM
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An apparent bad deal(s) may turn out to be a double win or more for the Oilers. Roy basically for Broissoit and Horak ; and Smid for Bryzalov with the cap money we had to spend . Maybe this is not nearly as bad as it first seemed , if the Flames acquisitions turn out down the line .

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#210 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 09:32PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Change was necessary. Smid was a good soldier. Better to trade a higher priced player.

Would anyone with sanity have remained status quo?

Exactly.

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#211 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 09:33PM
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BuckNegged wrote:

So the best way to do this is trade most of what little grit you had and get another pint-sized forward in return. Give your head a shake, man!!

Exactly.

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#212 DAVE
November 08 2013, 09:34PM
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Could'nt get Calgary to take N.Shultz, Ference,or any of the creampuffs, well maybe not Petry or J.Shultz, BUT Smid was the real leader on blue line, that much was obvious. You know D-men that actually play D First,and will blead for the team.

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#213 DSF
November 08 2013, 09:41PM
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madjam wrote:

An apparent bad deal(s) may turn out to be a double win or more for the Oilers. Roy basically for Broissoit and Horak ; and Smid for Bryzalov with the cap money we had to spend . Maybe this is not nearly as bad as it first seemed , if the Flames acquisitions turn out down the line .

The Oilers could have signed Bryzgalov without making any other moves.

Fail.

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#214 rob
November 08 2013, 09:46PM
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taking a chance on bryz is ok with me(i hate him but dubby sucks)trading smid was stupid but whatever,not having another trade in place to bolster blueline is just plain retarded!this team has sunk to the lowest point possible.get us some help with bold moves,not stupid ones!

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#215 rob
November 08 2013, 09:46PM
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taking a chance on bryz is ok with me(i hate him but dubby sucks)trading smid was stupid but whatever,not having another trade in place to bolster blueline is just plain retarded!this team has sunk to the lowest point possible.get us some help with bold moves,not stupid ones!

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#216 Bloodsweatandoil
November 08 2013, 09:53PM
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Damn.....Calgary got our best goalie!!! Smid has stopped more rubber than any of our remaining goalies in the last two years! Good luck Smid!!!

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#217 Soccer Steve
November 08 2013, 09:56PM
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In each of the years Smid was on the team what place did we finish? (I shouldn't have to say the obvious here so I won't).

Bit player on a bit team. Hopefully the first of many toilet flushings.

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#218 camdog
November 08 2013, 09:57PM
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Problem with this move is that if Mact really believed in Breezebygloveof he could have signed him in the preason, rather than wasting the roster spot and money on Labarbera.

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#219 Soccer Steve
November 08 2013, 09:58PM
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In each of the years Smid was on the team what place did we finish? (I shouldn't have to say the obvious here so I won't).

Bit player on a bit team. Hopefully the first of many toilet flushings.

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#220 camdog
November 08 2013, 09:59PM
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@camdog

And does anybody remember what Mact said when he signed Labarbera?

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#221 DSF
November 08 2013, 10:02PM
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Soccer Steve wrote:

In each of the years Smid was on the team what place did we finish? (I shouldn't have to say the obvious here so I won't).

Bit player on a bit team. Hopefully the first of many toilet flushings.

If that is your criteria...the Oilers should flush every player on the roster.

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#222 Stack Pad Save
November 08 2013, 10:09PM
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DSF wrote:

If that is your criteria...the Oilers should flush every player on the roster.

Except Hemsky, he went to the finals in '06

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#223 2004Z06
November 08 2013, 10:11PM
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DSF wrote:

Easy there Sparky.

There is no evidence, none, that he will ever be an NHL goaltender.

You may be right, but for all the bitching that we have no goaltending depth in the system he is a huge upgrade over Roy.

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#224 DSF
November 08 2013, 10:14PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

Except Hemsky, he went to the finals in '06

I'm not sure something that happened almost 8 years ago matters that much.

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#225 nick
November 08 2013, 10:15PM
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BleedOil4Life wrote:

Need to change it up Some vets have got to go! He hasn't played well and it's a good salary dump See ya SMID!

You're an idiot. Just what the Oilers needed to do is get rid of someone who actually hits and plays tough

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#226 2004Z06
November 08 2013, 10:16PM
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camdog wrote:

Problem with this move is that if Mact really believed in Breezebygloveof he could have signed him in the preason, rather than wasting the roster spot and money on Labarbera.

Nobody considered Bryzgalov better in the summer. Labarbera was not predicted to be this bad and as such Mac T had to make a move. He tried other options first but the asking price was too high.

At least if he doesn't work out, he is cut loose at the end of the year.

Rumor is Simmonds and Brayden Schenn may be on the way to Edmonton in return for Hemsky +.

I can't imagine Smid was dealt without a plan to fill the spot.

More coming for sure.

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#227 LoweBlow
November 08 2013, 10:16PM
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DSF wrote:

If that is your criteria...the Oilers should flush every player on the roster.

They should. Except for those named Perron, Gordon & Belov. The rest, down the toilet.

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#228 DSF
November 08 2013, 10:16PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

You may be right, but for all the bitching that we have no goaltending depth in the system he is a huge upgrade over Roy.

Some decent European scouting could likely find a much better prospect in a NY minute.

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#229 DAVE
November 08 2013, 10:23PM
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Out with the czechs and slovaks, in with the ruskis, Mac T must have been hangin with Rob Ford to make this deal, or he and Lowe are taking direction from the Kremlin.

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#230 nick
November 08 2013, 10:25PM
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admiralmark wrote:

IF Horak can make an excellent 4th line Center then i'm ok with this deal.

The goalie swap is two completely unpredictable players trading places.

Are you kidding me, just what the Oilers need is a small undersized 4th line centre. Geez we don't have any of those around here.

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#231 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:30PM
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Well, the only logical explanation for trading Smid for two late round prospects is to free up cap space. I think that much is agreed upon. I think it can also be agreed upon that that extra cap space isn't for a goalie who isn't currently playing in the league. Those type of signings should be relatively inexpensive. Hopefully Bryzgalov isn't going to cost two million plus but it is looking that way. Unfortunately MacT isn't in the greatest bargaining position to trade. I'm sure all of his previous inquiries around the league into the cost of a bonafide starting goalie resulted in a lot of unbearable propositions. "Sure, Hiller is available... for Nuge and Hemsky." So might as well take a chance on Bryzgalov, just hope they don't overpay. I hope that whatever deal MacT is working on doesn't fall through or the Smid deal looks bad. Stinky bad. Lunatics running the asylum bad. For a team not noted for its defensive depth to give up a starting NHL defenceman for no immediate help in return makes no sense whatsoever unless you completely give up which is highly unlikely or you have something very close to fruition. For an early Christmas present I wish for Shea Weber. Please Mr. MacClaus??

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#232 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:31PM
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@2004Z06

Bob Stauffer says those rumours are not true and are complete "BS".

The reality is that Mact has hancuffed the organization by not buying out Eager, signing Labarbera, Grebeshkov and Macintyre. That's 4 wasted roster spots on gut shots. On top of that we have Potter in the minors. The Oilers as it stands have 5 players signed to Nhl contracts on the Barons. I guess Potter will likely be recalled at some time, but that's just not good asset management.

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#233 Grucha
November 08 2013, 10:33PM
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Good move to sign Bryz. Taking a chance on him is worth it considering all our current goaltenders were given an honest shot to prove themselves and none (except Bachman) played an even average game once.

Anyone remember Bobrovsky? he was just as bad if not worse than Bryz in Phili but then he gets traded to Columbus and puts up crazy numbers.

Either way, even if he sucks on par with Dubnyk and LaBarbara and we continue to tank the season, the post game-interviews will be more entertaining.

Welcome Bryz. Smid sad to see ya go.

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#234 Eddie Shore
November 08 2013, 10:33PM
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Bryz at $1.75... Did Mac need to clear space to fit him in or should we expect something more to shake down(please dear God)?

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#235 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:34PM
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@HeavyChevy

I heard Bryz was getting 3 million.

As to the Ducks trading a goalie, it won't be to Edmonton, not after what we did to them with Penner and Schultz. THere is no love between the organizations.

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#236 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 10:36PM
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Actually, I've always likes Laddy, but he really seems to have regressed over the past couple of seasons, and his performance this year, objectively, has continued to trend downward. And getting walked around by Richard Panik for the winning goal against TB (Richard who? At least Horcoff, in his last game, got undressed by Datsyuk. But Richard Panik?) may well have been the final nail in his coffin.

Clearly a salary dump of an underperforming player (another of Tambo's genuis moves), and indicative of things to come, and not, despite DSF's crowings, a sign of MacT's dementia.

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#237 Taylor Gang
November 08 2013, 10:36PM
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Bryz: so crazy it just might work

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#238 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:37PM
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@Eddie Shore

1.75, well that doesn't sound bad, I must have been incorrect.

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#239 GoofyGoon69
November 08 2013, 10:39PM
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With our goaltending situation, I can understand the Bryz signing but DUMPING SMID to a RIVAL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????????????????????????? That's BOLD Mac-T. Real bold

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#240 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:40PM
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@Grucha

The Flyers used to be my second favourite team until them traded Bobo and signed Bryz:( Didn't want anything to do with Bryz in Philly!!! THis is like a nightmare to me!

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#241 Uks Ya!!
November 08 2013, 10:42PM
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Gona miss you Ladi!!! But Laurent Brossoit is a absolute Beauty, Horak doesn't have eye opening stats but too be honest I Noticed him EVERYTIME he was in the line up against the Oilers ...

Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn & Wayne Summonds for Eberle, Hemsky & Shultz!! Y'all wait & see!!! Fedun is the same player with a lot more heart for a lot less cap space ;)

~time will tell~

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#242 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:42PM
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@camdog

For sure. I think any conversation MacT has had with any team regarding a goalie has resulted in a ridiculous asking price just based on his position.

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#243 DAVE
November 08 2013, 10:44PM
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camdog wrote:

Bob Stauffer says those rumours are not true and are complete "BS".

The reality is that Mact has hancuffed the organization by not buying out Eager, signing Labarbera, Grebeshkov and Macintyre. That's 4 wasted roster spots on gut shots. On top of that we have Potter in the minors. The Oilers as it stands have 5 players signed to Nhl contracts on the Barons. I guess Potter will likely be recalled at some time, but that's just not good asset management.

You are right, up against the contract wall, and whole world know's it. Bad salary dump, with no bad contract's being dumped.

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#244 Jofa
November 08 2013, 10:49PM
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The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

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#245 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:55PM
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Jofa wrote:

The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

Well said. I really hope that the deal is significant and doesn't fall apart.

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#246 Dog Train
November 08 2013, 10:57PM
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I have no problem with getting rid of Smid and signing Bryzgalov. Smid was a good soldier but once our D is fully healthy, I'm not sure that I wouldn't rather Larsen or Fedun playing instead of him. Not to mention guys like Klefbom and Marincin down the road. We didn't really give up much and we added some cap flexibility going forward. I'm not totally sold on Brossoit but I wasn't a big Roy guy either.

As for Bryzgalov, if nothing else this gives Dubnyk some real competition. If we didn't address the goaltending then Dubnyk could have gone out and sucked every game the rest of the season and still been the starter by default.

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#247 EugeneV
November 08 2013, 11:12PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Bryz: -32 is insane! Yak: Winter here is mild compared to my hometown, comrade.

Russians are a weird, weird people.

Russia is a larger country than Canada with varying climates throughout. Ask someone from Vancouver Island what they think about Edmonton at -32 and you'll probably get the same response.

What is weird is that you don't know this.

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#248 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 11:16PM
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Jofa wrote:

The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

Not so sure the opposition hates to play against Smid. For that matter, I'm not sure there is any d man on the Oil that NHL opposition hate to play against. But my interpretation of the analytic data, such as I'm able, is that he had just about the worst numbers of any regular dman (we are talking about such things as +- scoring chance/15 ES min, etc.), and had been trending down. Just seems to have hit a wall. Maybe the change will do him good, but he seemed to be floundering here.

The big problem is, of course, who steps in to replace him. Taylor Fedun (3 inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter) maybe, but it seems like a long time to wait for Nurse. MacT was strongly hinting Klefbom is coming sooner rather than later but again, it seems like they are rushing players into the lineup again.

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#249 Todd
November 08 2013, 11:16PM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers could have signed Bryzgalov without making any other moves.

Fail.

DSF why did your mancrush Tallon fire his entire coaching staff (whom he himself handpicked)???

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#250 Uks Ya !!
November 08 2013, 11:22PM
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Eberle for Evander Kane

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Hemsky & either Omark or 2nd round pick for Simmonds!!

To the dumb ass saying we traded our 2nd rounder for Perron I believe we still have our 2015, 2016, 2017 etc... Draft picks available to trade away for HELP!!!!

Simmonds & Kane play the type of game we NEED!!!

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