Oilers deal Ladislav Smid, sign Ilya Bryzgalov

Jonathan Willis
November 08 2013 05:08PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers have traded Ladislav Smid to the Calgary Flames. Reportedly, they have also signed goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov.

The Trade

On it's own, this deal is a clear win for the Calgary Flames.

The only legitimate NHL player in this trade is Ladislav Smid. He has his faults; in particular he isn't an especially good puck-mover and has always been at his best when paired with a defenceman who can take primary responsibility for that part of the game. With that said, he is a legitimate middle-pairing defensive defenceman and a welcome physical presence, a guy who can kill penalties and has played some tough minutes over the years.

Olivier Roy is a marginal NHL goaltending prospect at this point, a guy still struggling to prove he can play regularly at the AHL level. Laurent Brossoit, an ex-Edmonton Oil King, is in his first year as a professional but is a better prospect long-term. Neither of these guys really matter in the NHL picture in the short term.

Roman Horak adds centre depth. He has 82 games of NHL experience but has spent most of this season with Abbotsford; he'll help the Barons a lot at centre right now and provides the Oilers with a second plausible call-up at that position (along with Linus Omark.

In the balance: the Oilers cleared cap space, but their NHL roster just got poorer.

Bryzgalov

Ilya Bryzgalov is a pretty good goalie. We don't have contract details yet, but the best guess is that we're looking at a one-year deal somewhere in the $2.0 - $2.5 million per year range. This isn't a totally surprising move; Jason Gregor reported it might happen not that long ago on this site.

Over the last five seasons, Bryzgalov has posted a 0.923 save percentage at even-strength. That makes him a little better than Devan Dubnyk and puts him in the same range as guys like Jonathan Quick, Carey Price and Corey Crawrford over that span. The difference is that Bryzgalov also famously imploded after being signed to a amassive ocntract by Philadelphia.

This is a good addition, particularly if he's being brought in to compete with Devan Dubnyk for playing time. It's not enough to explain the Smid trade, unless the contract is horrific. 

That's where we are now. The Oilers are better in net at the moment, significantly worse on defence and if another move doesn't come this has been a very bad night for Craig MacTavish. Another move is probably coming, and it will need to be a good one to make up for what's already happened.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 The Last Big Bear
November 08 2013, 06:45PM
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Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

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#102 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 06:52PM
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Best thing about this trade (besides Laurent Broissoit) is that MacT is Walking the Walk......to do nothing at this point, is to concede the season....which would be saying that we accept losing.......

Even though making the playoffs is an extreme long shot, you make moves now to stop the bleeding and give yourself a chance to have a winning percentage through the balance of the season.....you send a message to the room that losing is not going to be accepted and that losing has consequences.....

Even if the reality is that you're building towards next year.

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#103 a lg dubl dubl
November 08 2013, 06:55PM
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Stauffer says hemsky rumors are not true...

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#104 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:00PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I'll say it again....the reason you feel baffled is because you don't know Smid....you're overvaluing him.....not only is he one dimensional, he's not that physical....like Harlie said....more bear hugs than hits....seldom fights.....and he's at his prime....he's not getting any better.......he's a serviceable 4...more like a 5 on a good team.......if you don't believe me....ask yourself why the Oilers would trade him to anyone in their division let alone their arch rivals?

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#105 Bucknuck
November 08 2013, 07:08PM
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I don't mind trading Ladi Smid. I get pissed when they trade him for nothing. We keep hearing how hard it is to get big gritty reliable players, and they give one away for a couple of long shot prospects. It's really disappointing.

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#106 Don W
November 08 2013, 07:15PM
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I guess they didn't want to have too many d-men with any grit. Now they have...Ference and butter that has been out in the sun all day.

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#107 DSF
November 08 2013, 07:31PM
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God wrote:

Relax everyone. This season is done anyway. Just consider the rest of the way a 'preseason' of sorts.

Brossoit is a better goalie than Roy. Good. Smid is a #4 Dman and he was exposed playing in a higher role in Edmonton. His faults are very aparent: slow, poor passing, marginal defensive zone coverage. His position as a #4 Dman is redundant with Ference, Schultz Jr., Belov, Petry, Larson, Fedun, Mirancin & Klefbom. Don't forget that he was being paid $3.5mil: that's far to high for someone of his skill at the #4 d-spot. Sadly his intangibles will be missed. He wanted to be in Etown, married a gal from here. He'll be missed. Sadly I hope this doesn't show that Oiler management has no loyalty to the rest of the league. I fear it may.

Horak is good at hockey, better than Smid (even though they play different positions). He's a smart hockey player. He'll be a decent fit at 4th line C. Certainly better than Acton & Smyth.

Bryz aside, this isn't a fleece job on MacT.

The Bryz signing, honestly, I can't imagine what a media frenzy this will be when they play in Philly. I seriously hope he starts. I know DE won't play him but it'd be amazing drama for the two bottomfeeder teams.

Bryz is apparently headed to OKC for a conditioning stint.

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#108 madjam
November 08 2013, 08:07PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

I don't mind trading Ladi Smid. I get pissed when they trade him for nothing. We keep hearing how hard it is to get big gritty reliable players, and they give one away for a couple of long shot prospects. It's really disappointing.

I'm surprised every ones not praising this trade like they did for getting basically nothing for Horcoff .

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#110 Harlie
November 08 2013, 08:41PM
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DSF wrote:

Good grief.

He's playing in the ECHL after being shelled in the AHL.

Easy there Charlie Brown, I said starter in 3 years, not tomorrow. Take a seat already.

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#111 BuckNegged
November 08 2013, 09:19PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Best thing about this trade (besides Laurent Broissoit) is that MacT is Walking the Walk......to do nothing at this point, is to concede the season....which would be saying that we accept losing.......

Even though making the playoffs is an extreme long shot, you make moves now to stop the bleeding and give yourself a chance to have a winning percentage through the balance of the season.....you send a message to the room that losing is not going to be accepted and that losing has consequences.....

Even if the reality is that you're building towards next year.

So the best way to do this is trade most of what little grit you had and get another pint-sized forward in return. Give your head a shake, man!!

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#112 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 09:33PM
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BuckNegged wrote:

So the best way to do this is trade most of what little grit you had and get another pint-sized forward in return. Give your head a shake, man!!

Exactly.

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#113 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:31PM
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@2004Z06

Bob Stauffer says those rumours are not true and are complete "BS".

The reality is that Mact has hancuffed the organization by not buying out Eager, signing Labarbera, Grebeshkov and Macintyre. That's 4 wasted roster spots on gut shots. On top of that we have Potter in the minors. The Oilers as it stands have 5 players signed to Nhl contracts on the Barons. I guess Potter will likely be recalled at some time, but that's just not good asset management.

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#114 Uks Ya !!
November 08 2013, 11:22PM
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Eberle for Evander Kane

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Hemsky & either Omark or 2nd round pick for Simmonds!!

To the dumb ass saying we traded our 2nd rounder for Perron I believe we still have our 2015, 2016, 2017 etc... Draft picks available to trade away for HELP!!!!

Simmonds & Kane play the type of game we NEED!!!

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#115 Aaron van der Vaart
November 08 2013, 05:18PM
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Salary dump

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#116 clyde
November 08 2013, 05:23PM
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admiralmark wrote:

IF Horak can make an excellent 4th line Center then i'm ok with this deal.

The goalie swap is two completely unpredictable players trading places.

Horak can be a good 4rth line center, can kill penalties and gets in on the forecheck.

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#117 clyde
November 08 2013, 05:28PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

But is that worth a top 4 pairing d-man?

Not in my mind. But, this is a Bold move when you look at how it all and that is what Mac T promised. I personally thought Smid was pretty decent and a heck of a battler.

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#118 DSF
November 08 2013, 05:41PM
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@Real_ESPNLeBrun is next to me in the ACC press box. He is weeping with joy now that the Bryz signing is official.

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#119 Jackson
November 08 2013, 05:41PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

I don't get it. Smid was tied up for 4 years and at MOST Bryzgalov is an experiment for 1 year. Where does that leave us in one year? Give a player away so you can take on a long term contract, but not a short one. Even if Bryzgalov had a .940 save average would you feel good signing him to anything over 2 years next year, considering his history?

Same place as before a lottery pick team.

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#120 westcoastoil
November 08 2013, 05:42PM
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How bad is DD's season? He just cost us Smid for a goalie with a career .913s%

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#121 Rama Lama
November 08 2013, 06:03PM
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I do not understand why the Calgary Lames would do this deal..........someone like SMID does not really help them,........It's going to be wierd seeing him in Red.

The guy is a classic warrior ........too bad he did not have more skill with the puck.

All the best Smiddy........you were always an honest hockey player who defended your team mates with everything you had!

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#122 mlcselli
November 08 2013, 06:05PM
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MacT has lost his frackin' mind. Seriously. Smid traded? To the Flames? Unfreakin'real!!!!!!

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#123 Rama Lama
November 08 2013, 06:20PM
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Clyde wrote:

Pretty small def corps that just got run over the past 2 games and they are playing wideman and Brodie way too much.

Thanks mang.......this helps but don't you think giving up LB is a little steep?

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#124 Slats
November 08 2013, 06:20PM
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could we have not done this deal with Nick Schulz instead?

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#125 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:31PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Positive Friday, it's really all I've got left after this season.

D:

Sorry, but I couldnt help myself.

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#126 pkam
November 08 2013, 06:56PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Best thing about this trade (besides Laurent Broissoit) is that MacT is Walking the Walk......to do nothing at this point, is to concede the season....which would be saying that we accept losing.......

Even though making the playoffs is an extreme long shot, you make moves now to stop the bleeding and give yourself a chance to have a winning percentage through the balance of the season.....you send a message to the room that losing is not going to be accepted and that losing has consequences.....

Even if the reality is that you're building towards next year.

The problem is MacT is getting a goalie who was cut by an ECHL team this summer. Just like he said earlier, the best move sometimes is no move. Brzy may be worse than what we have, including Roy and Bunz. This move may be worse than not making a move.

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#127 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:01PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I'll say it again....the reason you feel baffled is because you don't know Smid....you're overvaluing him.....not only is he one dimensional, he's not that physical....like Harlie said....more bear hugs than hits....seldom fights.....and he's at his prime....he's not getting any better.......he's a serviceable 4...more like a 5 on a good team.......if you don't believe me....ask yourself why the Oilers would trade him to anyone in their division let alone their arch rivals?

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#128 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:01PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I'll say it again....the reason you feel baffled is because you don't know Smid....you're overvaluing him.....not only is he one dimensional, he's not that physical....like Harlie said....more bear hugs than hits....seldom fights.....and he's at his prime....he's not getting any better.......he's a serviceable 4...more like a 5 on a good team.......if you don't believe me....ask yourself why the Oilers would trade him to anyone in their division let alone their arch rivals?

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#129 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:01PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I'll say it again....the reason you feel baffled is because you don't know Smid....you're overvaluing him.....not only is he one dimensional, he's not that physical....like Harlie said....more bear hugs than hits....seldom fights.....and he's at his prime....he's not getting any better.......he's a serviceable 4...more like a 5 on a good team.......if you don't believe me....ask yourself why the Oilers would trade him to anyone in their division let alone their arch rivals?

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#130 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:10PM
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Butters wrote:

@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) Say again?

I was trying to block out DSF.....it didn't work!

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#131 DSF
November 08 2013, 07:22PM
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Dan Tencer ‏@dantencer 8m

MacTavish on @630CHED re: the churning rumour mill: "Certainly no moves imminent and hopefully none for quite some time."

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#132 BleedingOil
November 08 2013, 07:45PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

As far as I have read in wiki, any pro contract signed counts as one of the 50, irrelevant if it is a minor league deal or not. There is a 90 player limit that each team has which includes all signed and unsigned draft picks, players in College/ University or any player drafted within the last 2 NHL seasons which teams have exclusive rights to for the two years.

Number of contracts and salary cap wiki

there is a difference between the oilers signing a 2 way contract to AHL and OKC signing. Cheechoo never counted against our cap because he was ppty of OKC and NOT the Oilers. He could never get called up, and trades were done by AHL. The only difference here is that Katz owns the AHL franchise. Its not like that league wide

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#133 Alsker
November 08 2013, 08:43PM
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How many goalies do we now have that cant play net? Ok im being a little harsh but MacT better a grip on this, there are only so many contracts. Is the Smid move done to offer Dillon Simpson a starting position ala JSchultz?

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#134 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 09:32PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Change was necessary. Smid was a good soldier. Better to trade a higher priced player.

Would anyone with sanity have remained status quo?

Exactly.

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#135 camdog
November 08 2013, 09:57PM
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Problem with this move is that if Mact really believed in Breezebygloveof he could have signed him in the preason, rather than wasting the roster spot and money on Labarbera.

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#136 2004Z06
November 08 2013, 10:16PM
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camdog wrote:

Problem with this move is that if Mact really believed in Breezebygloveof he could have signed him in the preason, rather than wasting the roster spot and money on Labarbera.

Nobody considered Bryzgalov better in the summer. Labarbera was not predicted to be this bad and as such Mac T had to make a move. He tried other options first but the asking price was too high.

At least if he doesn't work out, he is cut loose at the end of the year.

Rumor is Simmonds and Brayden Schenn may be on the way to Edmonton in return for Hemsky +.

I can't imagine Smid was dealt without a plan to fill the spot.

More coming for sure.

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#137 Dog Train
November 08 2013, 10:57PM
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I have no problem with getting rid of Smid and signing Bryzgalov. Smid was a good soldier but once our D is fully healthy, I'm not sure that I wouldn't rather Larsen or Fedun playing instead of him. Not to mention guys like Klefbom and Marincin down the road. We didn't really give up much and we added some cap flexibility going forward. I'm not totally sold on Brossoit but I wasn't a big Roy guy either.

As for Bryzgalov, if nothing else this gives Dubnyk some real competition. If we didn't address the goaltending then Dubnyk could have gone out and sucked every game the rest of the season and still been the starter by default.

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#138 Uks ya!
November 08 2013, 11:26PM
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Uks Ya !! wrote:

Eberle for Evander Kane

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Hemsky & either Omark or 2nd round pick for Simmonds!!

To the dumb ass saying we traded our 2nd rounder for Perron I believe we still have our 2015, 2016, 2017 etc... Draft picks available to trade away for HELP!!!!

Simmonds & Kane play the type of game we NEED!!!

P.s watch sportnet tonite and see The Evander Kane issue in the Peg!

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#139 Zarny
November 09 2013, 12:00AM
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Yikes. With a struggling team I wouldn't bring the circus to town.

The risk on the ice is minimal. I like Smid but he hasn't been very good this year. He got pwned on TB's 3rd G.

The prospects from Cgy are irrelevant. Total salary dump. It's likely neither every plays in the NHL.

Bryz's best years were behind very good defensive systems. LaBarbera had good numbers in Phx too. And I question how motivated he'll be sitting on a buyout.

Most of all I worry about bringing his crazy into the dressing room. He's out there for a goalie.

On the ice though I doubt he could be worse than Dubnyk has been.

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#140 DimebagDave
November 08 2013, 05:12PM
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Its gotta be freeing up salary for something coming.

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#141 vetinari
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Would rather that it was Nick Schultz but I'm guessing someone is about to break out the Bold Moves Playbook and more action is to follow...

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#142 DJ Dynasty Handbag
November 08 2013, 05:16PM
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aaron ward just tweeted bryz to oilers

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#143 Tommyb
November 08 2013, 05:17PM
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@Mike Krushelnyski

I completly agree. I have been a Brossoit fan for a while and thought he would be good in Oilers threads. Sad to see Smid go though. He was the meanest guy in the lineup for a while. Hopefully this is to make room for a high end defenseman though....... Weber anybody. Damn it, I can't even type that out with a straight face

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#144 clyde
November 08 2013, 05:26PM
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KRad wrote:

I don't really like this deal, we could have gotten Brossoit cheaper at the draft (and yes, we didn't have the poor start to goaltending but it was an area that MacT wanted to address). But we do have a plethora of middle pairing defencemen and it clears cap space for Bryz (not that I'm exactly wild about having him either). But my question is why in the world did the Flames do this? You don't trade prospects for players in year 1 of a rebuild! And it isn't like they have actual goaltenders in their system. But whatever, I'm an Oilers fan what the f#$% do I know about how to do a rebuild.

Flames want their kids to be around solid, competitive vets during the rebuild. Don't want their kids thrown to the Wolves. And, have you seen the Flames def? Soft as butter.

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#145 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 05:26PM
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God I hope Bryz only got a 1-year. Signing him could turn out to be a great move or an utterly spectacular failure.

MacT just had his clock cleaned by Feaster. I get the salary dump aspect, but it seems like a really one sided deal.

EDIT: Thanks for the update J-Dub, and thank you GOD that Bryz got a one year. I'd kill to hear Yak and Bryz get interviewed after winning the cup. Time to get weird in Oil Country.

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#146 a lg dubl dubl
November 08 2013, 05:27PM
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So if Bryzgalov rumors are true, DD gets traded? Labarbera to the minors?

This weekend just got more interesting

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#147 Neal
November 08 2013, 05:34PM
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This doesn't look good... We give up grit for a 4th line C? And Bryzgalov? Probably the biggest dice roll in the league right now. On the positive side Brossoit looks like an excellent prospect... There has to be more to come, or was this just to appease all the fans calling for some Bold (riverboat gambling)?

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#148 clyde
November 08 2013, 05:38PM
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DSF wrote:

Mark Spector ‏@SportsnetSpec 7m

Still see something getting done between EDM and Philly. Oil may have to take on Meszaros to get what they want.

I don't think the Oilers want to do that. He's really gone down the drain.

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#149 Rob...
November 08 2013, 05:57PM
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Smid was a warrior. It's sad he went 3 hours south, as it means I can't even wish him luck.

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#150 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 06:01PM
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Bryz: -32 is insane! Yak: Winter here is mild compared to my hometown, comrade.

Russians are a weird, weird people.

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