Report: Philadelphia Flyers inquire about Jordan Eberle

Jonathan Willis
November 08 2013 01:19PM

According to Tim Panaccio of CSN Philadelphia, the Flyers talked to the Oilers today about the possibility of acquiring Jordan Eberle.

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Is Eberle Tradable?

The short answer in my view: yes.

Nobody would deny the Oilers have significant problems. Those problems are so significant that it might be necessary to trade high-end talent from one position to add help at another position. It doesn’t make sense to so that with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, because he’s the only hope the team has as a first-line centre. It doesn’t make sense to do that with Taylor Hall, the best player on the team and the only elite talent at left wing.

That leaves right wing, where Jordan Eberle and Nail Yakupov both play. In the right deal, either of those guys is moveable – regardless of what the team says. That’s not to say that the team should shop either guy, or that they’re looking to move either of them, but a trade that makes the team better without robbing Peter to pay Paul is plausible, if the guy getting traded plays right wing.

Is Eberle Tradable to Philadelphia?

Again, the short answer in my view: yes.

But there’s a caveat attached. The player has to be a high-end talent right now. That means that no package of Braydon Coburn and/or Wayne Simmonds and/or Scott Hartnell and/or Luke Schenn and/or draft picks and prospects or whatever. Trading down to address immediate need is a good way to kneecap the Oilers long-term. So no third defencemen or big second-line wingers can form the core of a decent Eberle trade.

Does Philadelphia have the high-end talent? I think you can make a case for three players. I don’t think either Brayden Schenn or Sean Couturier gets the job done right now. I have a lot of time for Couturier but I’m skeptical about his finishing ability and I think you can get more for Eberle on the open market. Schenn’s only a year younger than Eberle and significantly behind the same career curve.

That leaves Claude Giroux. Giroux is one of the best players in the game today, and for my money he’s a better player than Eberle by a nontrivial margin. He can play centre or wing. He doesn’t address the Oilers’ positional needs, but when an opportunity exists to trade in a very good player for a great player, it’s an opportunity that needs to be taken advantage of. For the Oilers, the possibility of having one line built on Giroux/Hall and another on Nugent-Hopkins/Yakupov long-term would have to be extremely tempting.

Does the opportunity exist? With any other team, I’d say ‘no’; with the Flyers it’s just ‘probably not.’ Giroux is getting killed by the percentages this year (his line is shooting at just over 5 percent and Philadelphia has a 0.875 save percentage with him on the ice at even-strength). The 11.5 percent career shooter has zero goals on 31 shots, as well as a minus-11 rating in 15 games. Most teams would rightly dismiss that as an aberration, but the Flyers are under tremendous pressure and have a history of making quick, franchise-altering moves.

If there’s an opportunity to acquire Claude Giroux, Eberle’s a justifiable cost. Otherwise, it’s hard to see a defensible deal here.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 ThatButthurtOilersFan
November 08 2013, 03:36PM
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Hemmercules wrote:

No way that trade happens straight across. I could see a package deal involving both players maybe, but still a long shot. I don't know if I could handle seeing Ebs in another jersey.

I know dat feel.

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#102 Harry
November 08 2013, 03:42PM
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Harry wrote:

If edm is going to give up Eberle then they have to address one of there biggest needs. If Philly throws in Simmonds with Giroux the size need has been addressed. I love Eberle but the deal you proposed above would be very very good for Edm.

Now that I think more about it that pick will most likely have to be a first rounder

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#103 GoofyGoon69
November 08 2013, 03:47PM
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I would rather trade him to e team willing to give up an elite D-man. Eberle for Giroux straight up is not even close. We have to give up more to get him. again, unless there's a team willing to trade an elite d-man or starting goalie. He's not getting traded

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#104 Yaz
November 08 2013, 04:02PM
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No damn way we ever deal this guy especially from a position of weakness . We started the year with weak goaltending that haunts us and way too many injuries this early. Somebody suggested going back to the trap which would improve the defensive support , the swarm highlights all of our flaws including defence, goaltending, wrong players on the pk and bad coaching. Terrible idea .

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#105 Gordie Wayne
November 08 2013, 04:05PM
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Giroux may be slightly better than Eberle, and he can play center, but they are pretty much the same size and almost the same type of player in my opinion.

Also, keep in mind Eberle is 2 years younger and cheaper by 2.275 million per year when Giroux's extension kicks in - think about that for a second - 2.275 million per year!

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#106 michael
November 08 2013, 04:25PM
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A thought. Downie was traded back to Philly about a week or more ago. Why do you trade for a Downie. You had him? An Eberle trade has some validity if your Philly and looking to restructure your team. 22 goals in 15 games does not add up to a hill of beans. Sure Philly has size and grit. Like LA. But you need finish also. LA wins because they get great goaltending and have enough finish with Kopitar,Richards and Carter.

Philly banked on Shenn,Courtier and Vorachek to provide them with the goals that they lost when they traded away Carter and Richards. Did not work out for them. Now they are floundering with 2-3 year players.

They got bigger but they lack finish and skill.

Eberle along with Giroux would help that team big time.

What the Oilers need from Philly may be pieces that they may turn into what they need now or in the future.

Philly has Colborn. Coutier.Simmonds. Picks and prospects.

The Oilers have Eberle. Hemsky. N.Shultz. Picks and prospects.

If its me doing the dealing I would love to have Simmonds. Colborn and a first round pick plus an A type prospect.

The money has to work for both sides. If I am GM I would make certain I make Holmgren overpay in picks plus the aforementioned players. Right now. Today. This moment Ed Snider could care less about picks and prospects that will help his team 5 years from now. His anger today is a huge sign for me that says that he is done with this group of players and wants to change his team for better or worse. Either way Holmgren is in a boat load of trouble.

The Oilers need what Philly has. Philly has what the Oilers need. Its a matter of who blinks first and is willing to pay the price.At the draft MacT told Holmgren NO. The tables have turned since then and I think MacT may now have the upper hand in a game of chicken.

The Oilers win tomorrow in Philly and Eberle gets 2 points it will be a fait de accompli.

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#107 Spoils
November 08 2013, 04:27PM
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I thought we needed a number one goalie and a number one DMan. Guess it would be hard to argue with Giroux, with his size and age (25).

Haven't seen enough of him, but I tend to think Ebs is more fun to watch.

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#108 Rama Lama
November 08 2013, 04:30PM
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@John Kirsch

I remember OV going through a drought last year( I believe it was 13 games) and all the pundits were saying he is finished??

I bet dollars to donuts Giroux is simply clutching his stick too hard ..........he got the "C", at far too young an age. He just cant relax enough.

I would give the Flyers all sorts of players to get him to our team......except Ebs, RNH, Hall.

We have an abundance of forwards so let's start culling.

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#109 Ronin
November 08 2013, 04:41PM
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Sounds like Oilers will sign Bryzgalov and will make a trade for a Dman

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#110 Ronin
November 08 2013, 04:44PM
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Smid traded

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#111 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 08 2013, 04:49PM
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Ronin wrote:

Smid traded

interdasting

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#112 Oilers need Ogie Ogilthorpe!
November 08 2013, 04:51PM
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@Ronin

Impressive. Saw your post, checked tsn, oilers.com, and was listening to Gregor. You 'broke' this 10 min before any of my sources

While typing this, got an alert from tsn trade center app.

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#113 Lochenzo
November 08 2013, 04:52PM
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Smid salary out so Bryzgalov can be signed? I'm a big Smid fan too, so I really hope there is another component to this move.

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#114 Serious Gord
November 08 2013, 04:52PM
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SMid to cgy for prospects. Only part one clearly.

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#115 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 04:54PM
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Is this for real? I can't find anything on it.

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#116 Craig1981
November 08 2013, 04:58PM
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Wow Smid is traded. Decently Bold

I think everyone is wondering if something else is happening.

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#117 Ronin
November 08 2013, 04:59PM
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Edmonton Oilers have acquired centre Roman Horak and goaltender Laurent Brossoit from the Calgary Flames, in exchange for defencemen Ladislav Smid and goaltender Olivier Roy.

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#118 Batfink
November 08 2013, 05:02PM
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Guys, stop with throwing O'Mark in the deal with Philly. Everyone knows he is pivotal to the blockbuster Weber deal....

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#119 PapaMike
November 08 2013, 05:05PM
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Now if we can flush Bunz from the Oilers, we can start developing goalies

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#120 Greg
November 08 2013, 05:05PM
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Oh god.

When it comes to Lowe vs Burke, I think we all know who wins in the end.

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#121 Rob...
November 08 2013, 05:07PM
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Sad to see Smid go from the standpoint that he played tough against the other team. He was having a bad year so far, but this doesn't help the whole Team Toughness thing. Hopefully there are more trades to come shortly.

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#122 Dan 1919
November 08 2013, 05:07PM
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I think everyone is wondering if something else is happening.

Yeah you’d think so.

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#123 camdog
November 08 2013, 05:08PM
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So they get rid of Smid and Brown, because they have too many contracts, not often you see a team that get's pushed around as much as the Oil unload any player with toughness?

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#124 Craig1981
November 08 2013, 05:10PM
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Just looking at stats this doesn't look like a great trade. I hope its a salary dump for someone better and not the Oilers brass being in love with a player just casue the know him from the Oiler Kings.....(see Ewanyk, Moroz)

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#125 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 05:11PM
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Christ, I hope there's more coming.

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#126 DSF
November 08 2013, 05:11PM
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They're making room to take on a bad contract from Philly IMO.

Smid (3.5M) out and Mezaros ($4M) in.

The question is....what else?

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#127 PapaMike
November 08 2013, 05:16PM
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They're making room to take on a bad contract from Philly IMO.

Smid (3.5M) out and Mezaros ($4M) in.

The question is....what else?

Good grief, I hope not...

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#128 Greg
November 08 2013, 05:19PM
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My god look at us. All this talk about bringing in Bryz. We're like a bunch of flies frantically flying around sh*t. I could not have imagined this is what we'd be talking about in early November... Thanks Oilers

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#129 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 05:20PM
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Looks like Feaster/Burke just fleeced MacT/Lowe. I hope I'm wrong.

At this point I'm actually not against signing Bryz to a 1-year. Best case scenario he regains some of his former magic. Worst case scenario, he sucks and gets turfed at the end of the year. Either way, I'm in the "season's over" camp, so may as well give it a shot. I'm looking forward to some Bryz interviews, the guy seems like a bit of a nut job.

To quote Bryz, "It's only a game. Why you heff to be mad?"

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