DESPERATION ON DISPLAY

Robin Brownlee
November 09 2013 12:17AM

As the losses have mounted through 17 games, the demand by fans of the Edmonton Oilers that GM Craig MacTavish DO SOMETHING to change the fortunes of the team have grown louder by the day.

MacTavish gave those fans what they wanted Friday, sending hard-nosed and popular but limited defenseman Ladislav Smid and Olivier Roy down Highway 2 to the Calgary Flames for prospects, MacTavish followed that up by signing Ilya Bryzgalov to a one-year contract.

Yes, Ilya Bryzgalov, the goaltender the Philadelphia Flyers just paid $23 million to not play for them two years after signing him to a ridiculous nine-year contract worth $51 million. Ilya Bryzgalov, the oh-so flakey laugh riot, Knob Hockey hero and dressing room distraction represented by Edmonton agent Ritch Winter. That Ilya Bryzgalov.

With the Oilers floundering at 4-11-2 and staring at an eighth straight year out of the playoffs less than two weeks into November during a season in which MacTavish and new coach Dallas Eakins have over-promised and under-delivered, these aren't the bold moves MacTavish talked about when he took over the chair formerly occupied by Steve Tambellini.

This is desperation on display.

AN UPGRADE?

Make no mistake, Devan Dubnyk left the door wide open for MacTavish to make a deal to address his goaltending – forced his hand, actually – with an absolutely abysmal performance so far this season. That's on him.

The last straw, obviously, came in a 4-2 loss to the Tampa Bay Lightning in a game the Oilers played more than well enough to win. That's been the storyline more than once this season, one repeated often enough that the upgrades MacTavish has made to the roster on paper haven’t translated to the standings. How could MacTavish stand pat?

Fair question, even if dealing from a position of weakness almost never turns out well. But Bryzgalov, now 33 and coming off back-to-back seasons with save percentages of .909 in 2011-12 and .900 in 2012-13? Bryzgalov, whose career save percentage of .913 on good, bad an indifferent teams is a wash with the .911 posted by Dubnyk, including his horrid start to this season and a career spent on a bottom-feeder team?

I'd argue, and did on Twitter, shunting Dubnyk aside is like deciding to trade in your old Ford because it isn't reliable enough, then replacing it with a Lada that's six model years older. In terms of actual performance, I don’t see it as a clear upgrade. Then, there's the flake factor with a player who has had dubious chemistry with teammates in the past.

WHAT'S THE PUNCHLINE?

Bryzgalov, to understate, has some quirks. He's out there. He tends to fill the notepads of reporters -- never a bad thing for those who work the beat – and wear on the patience of teammates. Bryzgalov, you might remember, once compared Edmonton to the North Pole when talking about why Anaheim teammate Chris Pronger might have wanted out of Edmonton.

"He (Pronger) maybe tried to leave here because here in November months is a minus-32," Bryzgalov said in an interview with The Score. "Could you imagine? It’s eight months in a year of snow."

Might Bryzgalov push Dubnyk to be better or even displace him as the starter if he can reverse the slide in his performance of the past two seasons? I think it's unlikely, but it's possible, I suppose. Is it a big gamble? Not really, at least in terms of money, reported to be $1.75 million, or term.

Still, it strikes me as an ill-conceived signing brought on by another season off the rails because it wasn't supposed to unfold like this again. It's a just-do-something -- ANYTHING, dammit -- move. A distinct hint of panic over a plan gone wrong. It's desperation on display.

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#51 Spydyr
November 09 2013, 09:07AM
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hardcore moiler wrote:

so your telling me that smid is so good he is going to bring calgary there stanley cup come on wake up we need a spot for darnell nurse hello way better upgrade then your boy smid

WTF are you talking about.When did I say "smid is so good he is going to bring calgary there stanley cup "

You are delusional.

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#52 Retsinnab5
November 09 2013, 12:53AM
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Too bad Bryzgalov's five hole is Humongous Big!

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#53 Rheal1
November 09 2013, 06:05AM
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Giving Smid away was dumb. Real dumb considering he went to a division rival. Oilers desperately need Dmen so what's the solution? Trade a Dman, and a top shot blocker to boot! We need no stinking prospects. More of the same. Why does MacT trade for prospects when we are soft and require vet talent NOW? The Smid trade is very suspicious and his indicative that Oilers management are panicking but also extremely clueless about how to right this sinking ship... My assessment is that macT must be getting something big ready for the near future. Must. Or he's a complete moron here. How about PK Subban to Edmonton for Hemsky, a prospect and Yaks?... BOLD. Bryzgalov - if he can get back to Phoenix shape - will make MacT look like a genius. That's a big if...

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#54 Soccer Steve
November 09 2013, 08:46AM
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@Spydyr

Now I can draw from an old comment of yours to me...

"I'm wrong so I don't walk to talk to you anymore."

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#55 hockeycrazed
November 09 2013, 08:58AM
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Unfortunately my worst nightmare had come true, Oils are starting a fire sale, and the worst part is, it's only November, and they've only played 17 games! Already they have discovered that they made a terrible assumption in the summer about their team, they thought they had a contending team, but by selling off their integral parts bit by bit, they are actually thinking of re-building, again........ when is re-building supposed to end? 5 years? 10 years? I can understand that keeping your young stars is vital, nevertheless, you also need mature influence to help them along until other young prospects are mature enough to replace them, how is trading Smid and replace him with nothing a step forward?????!!!! How is leaving 5 healthy defencemen in the lineup not hinting 'giving up on the season'? I think they should start refunding money to season tickets holders if they are tanking the season already! Don't you think?

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#56 fedup
November 09 2013, 09:34AM
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Rob wrote:

The real mistake was when the Oilers actively pursued Labarbera over the summer. My first reaction, that guy is still in the league? Mediocre at best. Bryzgalov is better than him, Dubnyk? Who knows. The best part of this is if the season is lost already anyways. If Bryzgalov is a problem or plays horribly, easy solution : Oilers don't resign him. In the off chance he somehow rediscovers some of his past glory we've stumbled on to a guy who can get us to our next goalie and MacT looks like a genius. It's win-win. Only problem, this should have been done weeks ago.

How is this a win-win?

We, sorry I mean the Oilers, got rid of Smid in order to make cap space so they could sign an avg goalie to a 1 year contract.

Smid:

1) Was one of the Oilers' better D-men 2) The type of D-man they needed (stay at home) 3) Bled Orange and Blue and gave the team a hometown discount when resigning last year. For a team having trouble attracting players, they decide to trade the rare one that LOVES playing in Edm.

Could Smid not have been packaged with other players in order to bring in something more substantial and more permanent?

Could N. Schultz not have been moved instead?

Could we not have gotten a better return from Calgary? Do the Oilers really need more prospects?

great trade....

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#58 Clarko
November 09 2013, 08:59AM
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Rob wrote:

The real mistake was when the Oilers actively pursued Labarbera over the summer. My first reaction, that guy is still in the league? Mediocre at best. Bryzgalov is better than him, Dubnyk? Who knows. The best part of this is if the season is lost already anyways. If Bryzgalov is a problem or plays horribly, easy solution : Oilers don't resign him. In the off chance he somehow rediscovers some of his past glory we've stumbled on to a guy who can get us to our next goalie and MacT looks like a genius. It's win-win. Only problem, this should have been done weeks ago.

Do you think Bryzgalov resigns if he has a great resurgence in his career? I imagine he will have his pick of several teams if he plays well.

Could just as easily be a lose-lose. We lose Bryz at the end of the year because he either plays poorly or he plays well and decides to leave AND we lost our most steady d-man over the last few seasons for prospects.

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#59 Rheal1
November 09 2013, 09:09AM
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What exactly consists of a "bold move"? How about bringing PK Subban to Edmonton? Would that be bold? Would it make sense? PK is reportedly not the happiest of campers under Therrien.

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#60 2004Z06
November 09 2013, 09:11AM
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Clarko wrote:

Do you think Bryzgalov resigns if he has a great resurgence in his career? I imagine he will have his pick of several teams if he plays well.

Could just as easily be a lose-lose. We lose Bryz at the end of the year because he either plays poorly or he plays well and decides to leave AND we lost our most steady d-man over the last few seasons for prospects.

Who cares if you lose him at the end of the season? This summer is the "summer of goalies" The market will be flooded with goalies hitting free agency this year. It's a buyers market.

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#61 Serious Gord
November 09 2013, 07:23AM
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So spec says there is more to come From philly:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers-working-on-trade-for-philadelphia-flyers-wayne-simmonds/

Also mentioned are the schenns.

So we could see Bryz, Simmons, and the two schenns in oilers silks. And lose smid, hemsky and eberle. Two or three of the four in the flyers trade were/are a big part of why the flyers have failed these past two seasons. And my guess is that Simmons - being from scarberia might not be too happy to be sent to a team located in the North American version of the real Siberia.

Real potential for an epic, milbury-when-he-was-GM-of-the-islanders disaster.

And further proof that Klowe needs to be replaced with someone who is:

competent

Not tarred by the mess this team is and thus not under pressure to cover it up/fix it in the short term

And thus able to keep a firm rein on MacT and prevent disasters like the one that's in the making...

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#62 Oilcruzer
November 09 2013, 07:46AM
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James wrote:

That is pretty terrible thinking no? You have star players who already feel entitled, the last thing you want to do is take pressure off them.

Punishing your dog because the cat scratched the furniture doesn't teach him anything.

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#63 hardcore moiler
November 09 2013, 08:54AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Smid was one of the few player here with any heart.One of the few defencman who cleared the front of the net.he made more saves then the teams goalies.To top it off they trade him to Calgary.

so your telling me that smid is so good he is going to bring calgary there stanley cup come on wake up we need a spot for darnell nurse hello way better upgrade then your boy smid

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#64 Soccer Steve
November 09 2013, 09:06AM
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Smid epitomized our team: a player who wasn't that great, took up too much cap space, and who never seemed to improve.

And was he gritty/hard to play against? I argue this too. What are some examples of this?

History will show this trade to be an Oiler win.

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#65 Rheal1
November 09 2013, 09:38AM
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Message to MacT, KLowe and Katz:

Get PK Subban, Halak & Marleau. All pending RFAs/UFAs; Rebuild complete.

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#66 Ari Gold
November 09 2013, 02:52PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

I'd be very hesitant to trade Eberle or any of the core players when the team is floundering as badly as it is because it's unlikely you'll get fair value.

On the face of it, Eberle for Giroux is worth discussing.

I disagree. I'd take Giroux over Ebs anyday of the week. Giroux is a playoff player. He hits and plays big. Hands, shot, balls. We need that on our team.

No way Ebs would fetch Giroux.

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#67 non descript
November 09 2013, 07:14AM
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desperation indeed. but for what? to finish 25th instead of 28th? the team is bad, bryzgalov wont change that. there is a fine line between winning and losing and until this team learns how to play fundamentally sound hockey they will be bad. horrible habits constructed on a foundation of acceptable losing.

dont mind the smid dump though. bad contract for a bottom pairing defencemen who was the poster boy for a guy who couldnt figure it out. almost 500 games and still doesnt know good defensive positioning. for those who think his physical presence will be missed. pushing after the whistle and rubbing guys out doesnt scare anybody.

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#68 Deep Oil
November 09 2013, 07:17AM
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MacTavish hinted in the summer that his goaltending was suspect, seeking CC via Canucks.

Tim Thomas and Bryz were available for free this summer, and they took on Greb for some reason... cap management could of been addressed more professionally.

Objectively, this season is over, I know that this is redundant, but why not tank and get another lottery pick, the building will still be sold out.

This is desperation not a bold move.

I have pondered over the years, yes years to have my friend in Vegas to bet on the oilers to lose every game, over the course of 8 seasons, I would be a very rich man right now, better than Apple or Google. I am seriously thinking about this program, even though the odds are low, the risk is also low.

A season ticket holder betting against his team for monetary gain, free enterprise when the rewards are there..... wonder how much navel gazing is going on here - Katz has not had one playoff penny of revenue since borrowing $100million to buy this team....

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#69 James
November 09 2013, 07:18AM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Nobody's given Bryz the starting job. Nobody has signed him to a long term deal.

Making two goalie moves in one day? A definite wake up call that takes the pressure off the skaters.

Face it. If the Oil would get that one big save a game, heck, any game this year, it could have changed the course of that game, etc.

NO TEAM can play well if they aren't confident in the goalie.

Seen it / coached it way too many times. There's nothing in hockey that changes a team's confidence like good / poor goaltending.

That is pretty terrible thinking no? You have star players who already feel entitled, the last thing you want to do is take pressure off them.

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#70 moneygoalie31
November 09 2013, 08:05AM
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I have been reader on the nation for a few years now, This is my first post. Your dam right this is a desperate move.... Its over due. Bryz cant hurt us why not try him. Smid has been a pylon this year that crosschecks the odd guy who is standing still. I like Laddy,but at this point it was a good move to get a potential goalie of the future. We have high end young D-men commin who are gonna need spots.

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#71 Gordie Wayne
November 09 2013, 08:13AM
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So when is Klefbom getting called up? I can see that happening any day now...

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#72 a lg dubl dubl
November 09 2013, 08:40AM
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moneygoalie31 wrote:

Larson and Fedun have showed well so far. Grebs is a terrible signing, Belov is a gem and only gonna get better. Laddy was gonna be moved eventually, we have to get to a point where our 5-6 d make less then 3.5 million. He was a top four guy for us but should he be??? I still think Mac T is doing a good job, Eakins is gonna be fine. The blame here goes on management and coaches all the time, It is well past time for the million dollar players to cowboy up and play some f#@%ing hockey.

Larsen and Fedun have shown well in 2 games, I hope it continues, but it is only 2 games. Lets talk again after 10-20 games if theyre still playing well, again I do hope so the team needs all the help they can get lol.

What I don't get is according to cap geek the MIGHTY Oilers now have 6mil in cap space, with Mr.Spaceman now on board at 1.75mil even with Smid the Oiles would still be under the cap not by much but it was a trade that didn't need to happen right now.

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#73 oldman61
November 09 2013, 09:26AM
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This will be the warning shot across the bow for the non productive players that being traded out of Edmonton doesnt always mean LA.

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#74 Bryzarro World
November 09 2013, 09:39AM
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Naky wrote:

I'm honestly perplexed by the amount of people who think that this was a decent signing.

2m for a goaltender whose statistics are literally awful barring a couple of decent years (equivalent to Dubnyk's usual numbers!!!) in a highly defensive oriented system implemented by Tippett.

2m for a goaltender a goaltender that has expressed his honest and heartfelt feelings, not to mention disrespect, towards Edmonton and its fans just a few years ago - a sentiment that likely didn't change until he was bought out and started to feel that desperation as the summer went on and realized nobody wanted him.

2m for a goaltender who has previously and publicly thrown his teammates under the bus when he feels they were the real reasons why he let in so many goals.

2m for a goaltender that will make a 3 headed monster of our goaltending situation made even worse if he can't play well. What happens if he sucks, as his previous numbers show that he does? Do we waive him? How many games do we give him if he is sucking? How many does he get as a free pass or is LaBarbera the odd duck out here no matter what?

2m for a goaltender that forced one of our better veteran defensive defenders off to our rivals to the south. We just got smaller, weaker, and easier to play against to make room for him. Hope he can make up for the loss as Smid was one of like two defenders willing to make space for our goaltenders in our crease.

This makes no sense and especially not at that price. If Bryzgalov wanted to prove himself so badly he should have been willing to sign for 1m. We overpaid, we lost a good asset to make room for him, and we can't even say we got an upgrade on LBB much less DD.

How are you guys not perplexed with me.

Wrong

So what? It's close to the truth. We're a winter city so pull your head out of your backside and deal with reality.

Were they the reasons for the goals? Have to have a strong captain to deal with that which I think we do.

3 headed monster? LMAO Are you kidding? We have no number 1 goalie and you are diluted if Little L is included in that mix...

You know exactly what the reason was to trade Smid? Need a change but people like you will always cry when they do something. Never happy and you always know better.... Lame...

It makes total sense if you see they doing something out of desperation and that DD is partially making them do it.

We aren't perplexed because we don't have our panties on as tight as you apparently do...

Peace Out

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#75 DubnykisDONE
November 09 2013, 02:38PM
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Dubnyk has had more than enough chances. He's done. Career backup at best. Just complete garbage. Lacavalier from the goal line shelfs it short side over DDs shoulder? Are you f*cking kidding me? I could have made that save.

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#76 Stack Pad Save
November 09 2013, 07:46AM
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27Ginge wrote:

I honestly love the Bryzgalov signing. There is little to no risk in a one year deal. The best case scenario is that he comes in and plays well and raises the level of Dubnyk's game. Duby proved before that he could handle having a veteran Russian backup that wasn't exactly the most polished guy off the ice. Worst case scenario is that the guy is a head case that plays as bad as Labarbera has and gives us all something to laugh at while the Oilers slowly die a thousand deaths for yet another season.

That is not the worst case. Worst case is he comes in, stinks and convinces Nail to fly back to Russia with him.

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#77 hardcore moiler
November 09 2013, 08:49AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Just think of the elation this fan base would be experiencing right now if Mactavish had just acquired a tough, physical,experienced young NHL mid pairing D-Man with good character.

Now imaging the cost of this acquisition was merely what amounts to Bunz and Pitlick. ON would be on cloud nine. This is what the Flames fans are celebrating today after fleecing the dullards who run the Oilers.

You want to save some cap and contract space? How about not wasting 1.5 million on freakinGREBESHKOV !!

It's as if Lowe and MacT felt their status as the biggest incompetents in hockey was challenged by Garth Snow after the laughable Vanek trade, and came up with this as a response.

Joke of a trade from an absolutely pathetic franchise.

you havent seen the guy play yet and this is franchise that gave western canada a chance to expand in the nhl and smid was not a good defence i like the trade new guys have a chance now to evolve now that smid is gone dont forget about darnell nurse hello way better upgrade then smid

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#78 Rheal1
November 09 2013, 09:22AM
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Concerning the Eberle to Flyers rumours.... It would take at least Giroux and Coburn to make any sense. A Hemsky, 3rd rounder for Simmonds AND Meszaros would work fine.

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#79 Rheal1
November 09 2013, 09:43AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Giroux is 25 and entering his prime years. He's outscored Eberle 223-169 since the start of the 2010-11 season. And you think the Flyers -- at the very least -- would have to throw in Coburn for it to make any sense? OK.

Because, contrary to the scientific robinbrownlee law that "every Oilers trade must be detrimental in order that Edmonton can be the laughing stock of the NHL" maybe, once in a f4cking while Edmonton can win somehow somewhere.

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#80 Naky
November 09 2013, 11:02AM
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@The Anti-Troll

So you justify that we're a winter city as a good reason for bringing a player with a bad attitude towards it into a locker room of young impressionable stars in a fragile state of mind. A clearly negative person who enjoys making fun of other teams, cities, and fans. Right, gotcha.

You also have no problem with a player throwing other players under the bus publicly just because we have Ference. So if Klefbom is recalled and Bryzgalov trashes him to the media because he's a rookie making rookie mistakes, Ference is there to save the day for you. Gotcha.

DD is our number one because his numbers are superior to Bryzgalov's long term. If you want to focus on the short term of this season, you can but that doesn't make you 'right' like I am 'wrong' to you. Regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it or not, Bryzgalov and LBB's statistics are more or less equal. Not to mention you completely ignored the whole bit about what if the signing goes south. Nice cherry picking 'anti-troll'.

I never once cried for making a change for the sake of making a change. Not once. Anyone who has read my posts here would know this, so clearly you have not, not that I even care if you did. We have tons of depth defensemen players that could have been traded away for prospects for salary cap reasons or roster spots and Smid was one of the poorer choices. Smid for Brossoit is what it boils down to and Brossoit can't (and absolutely should not) help us right now.

Finally, I like how someone called the anti-troll finishes his post with one. Good one on you, sir, 'peace out' indeed.

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#81 Ari Gold
November 09 2013, 02:49PM
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This team is a complete joke. They extend contracts and deal with NTCs in good faith only to trade the player, who wanted to be here, in less than half a year. This speaks to the rest of the players in the league about managements integrity.

I understand that Smid is slow, marginally physical and a terrible passer. I honestly didn't want him in the top 3. He's a solid #4 Dman. He was slightly overpaid (I'd say $500k-$1miil) but we're used to that.

Honestly, I'd have dumped Schultz Sr. He earns more and does less. Send him away for a 4th rounder, or future considerations. #5Dmen being paid $4mil are useless in my opinion.

In the end I'm not dissatisfied with the return except that Horvat is another small forward albiet with grit. Hopefully he can learn a thing or two from Perron.

As for Bryz. Goodness. We'll see....

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#82 nick
November 09 2013, 10:06PM
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Rob wrote:

The real mistake was when the Oilers actively pursued Labarbera over the summer. My first reaction, that guy is still in the league? Mediocre at best. Bryzgalov is better than him, Dubnyk? Who knows. The best part of this is if the season is lost already anyways. If Bryzgalov is a problem or plays horribly, easy solution : Oilers don't resign him. In the off chance he somehow rediscovers some of his past glory we've stumbled on to a guy who can get us to our next goalie and MacT looks like a genius. It's win-win. Only problem, this should have been done weeks ago.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA How funny are you, Bryzgalov signing is an absolute joke. The LasVegas beer league team didn't even want him around. Add another clown to the circus

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#83 nick
November 09 2013, 10:11PM
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Rob wrote:

The real mistake was when the Oilers actively pursued Labarbera over the summer. My first reaction, that guy is still in the league? Mediocre at best. Bryzgalov is better than him, Dubnyk? Who knows. The best part of this is if the season is lost already anyways. If Bryzgalov is a problem or plays horribly, easy solution : Oilers don't resign him. In the off chance he somehow rediscovers some of his past glory we've stumbled on to a guy who can get us to our next goalie and MacT looks like a genius. It's win-win. Only problem, this should have been done weeks ago.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA How funny are you, Bryzgalov signing is an absolute joke. The LasVegas beer league team didn't even want him around. Add another clown to the circus

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#84 LoweBrow
November 09 2013, 06:58AM
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What were these transactions about? Was trading a solid Dman like Smid just to clear cap room for a goalie (head case) no better than DD ( measured by save percentage )

Does the brain trust (chuckle now ) believe this will make a difference to the season?

Please tell me more is coming!

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#85 John Kirsch
November 09 2013, 07:20AM
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27Ginge wrote:

I honestly love the Bryzgalov signing. There is little to no risk in a one year deal. The best case scenario is that he comes in and plays well and raises the level of Dubnyk's game. Duby proved before that he could handle having a veteran Russian backup that wasn't exactly the most polished guy off the ice. Worst case scenario is that the guy is a head case that plays as bad as Labarbera has and gives us all something to laugh at while the Oilers slowly die a thousand deaths for yet another season.

Love is a strong move. Anyone who "loves" this move is not a real fan of this team and is one who accepts the joke that Oil have become.

I want MacT and Co. to build a competitive team and not make knee jerk reactionary "low risk" moves like bringing in journeymen.

And to bring in a "high risk" character player into that locker room, to me, makes no sense.

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#86 Batfink
November 09 2013, 08:00AM
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One would think that there is more to come.....please? (begging with puppy dog eyes)

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#87 BuckNegged
November 09 2013, 08:01AM
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@Jay Gray

Have any of the young guys shown any toughness at all? We are going to get l=killed on the cycle and in front of the goal.

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#88 2004Z06
November 09 2013, 09:08AM
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a lg dubl dubl wrote:

Larsen and Fedun have shown well in 2 games, I hope it continues, but it is only 2 games. Lets talk again after 10-20 games if theyre still playing well, again I do hope so the team needs all the help they can get lol.

What I don't get is according to cap geek the MIGHTY Oilers now have 6mil in cap space, with Mr.Spaceman now on board at 1.75mil even with Smid the Oiles would still be under the cap not by much but it was a trade that didn't need to happen right now.

Hmmm kinda makes one think there is another shoe to drop huh?

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#89 nunyour
November 09 2013, 10:49AM
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Nice to see Mact doing something to improve his team,seems like most fans are ready for bold moves.

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#90 nick
November 09 2013, 10:13PM
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hardcore moiler wrote:

so your telling me that smid is so good he is going to bring calgary there stanley cup come on wake up we need a spot for darnell nurse hello way better upgrade then your boy smid

Pretty confident a guy playing junior is going to be an NHL player are you Spydyr. Nurse doesn't even play the same side as Smid. Would have been better off dumping Ference, undersized and way over rated, oh wait MacT gave him a no trade ha ha Stuck with him for a while. Oilers will miss Smid a lot

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#91 big slick
November 09 2013, 06:04AM
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Is he an up grade at back up goalie?

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#92 Serious Gord
November 09 2013, 07:26AM
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Deep Oil wrote:

MacTavish hinted in the summer that his goaltending was suspect, seeking CC via Canucks.

Tim Thomas and Bryz were available for free this summer, and they took on Greb for some reason... cap management could of been addressed more professionally.

Objectively, this season is over, I know that this is redundant, but why not tank and get another lottery pick, the building will still be sold out.

This is desperation not a bold move.

I have pondered over the years, yes years to have my friend in Vegas to bet on the oilers to lose every game, over the course of 8 seasons, I would be a very rich man right now, better than Apple or Google. I am seriously thinking about this program, even though the odds are low, the risk is also low.

A season ticket holder betting against his team for monetary gain, free enterprise when the rewards are there..... wonder how much navel gazing is going on here - Katz has not had one playoff penny of revenue since borrowing $100million to buy this team....

You would not have made any money - or very little in Vegas. You would have had to not just bet win/lose but the spread. Just as betting the Jacksonville jags to lose is not an available option...

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#93 hallthetime
November 09 2013, 09:44AM
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Winning the cup is like capturing a butterfly, sometimes it will just fly onto your lap with little effort, or not.

The other way is to try hard with your hands running as fast as you can, but it may just to high to reach.

But the best way to win/capture a cup is to have the knowledge on how to find them and the right tools needed to get them.

Which one are the oilers.

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#94 oilerjed
November 09 2013, 09:58AM
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@ Brownlee

As much as it is easy to say that MacT and Klowe panicked, this doesn't scream panic or desperation to me. Panic move would at least have the illusion of improving the team, this move does nothing. Lateral move at goalie position (I hope) and D corp just got weaker. The question you should be asking is what's next, that's where this article should have gone. Damn your a journalist, do some sleuthing and find us some answers. Uh.. please

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#95 Johnnydapunk
November 09 2013, 10:07AM
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I'm more than fine with the Bryzgalov signing, he has something to prove, the Oil goaltending is shambolic, and this is probably the least "blowing sheet up" option as the summer will hopefully be a very good market for signing a proven number one.

I think that the Oil were going to have to give something up to make cap room unless something insane happens and league revenue jumps like 10% as the cap is set by the league revenue percentage or something like that, Smid's contract sadly was the only one that was long term (besides Ference and the kids)

It's also nice that every goalie the Oil currently have are playing for their jobs as they are all in the final year of their contracts, with the exception of Tuohimaa who apparently will come to North America next year.

I do have one possibly irrational fear which is a player like Hiller not wanting to come here in part due to the fact that when the Oil had another Swiss goalie in Martin Gerber who seemed to get the shaft whilst he was here despite his decent play.

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#96 Rama Lama
November 09 2013, 10:18AM
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If I were a betting man........I would say Mac T has probably talked to every team in the NHL and has probably pitched a dozen trade possibilities with another dozen coming the other way.

It would be very difficult to make a decision if there are numerous possibilities out there. Nice problem to have if in fact that is the case.

I for one disagree with the pundits out there ( Sportsnet & TSN) who state that Bryz is toxic to a dressing room........more like a comedian? I for one don't care if he is weird, strange, or funny.......just stop pucks. Thats all we need from a goalie.

This Oil Kings goalie LB........must be special if MacT wanted him so bad.

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#97 oilerjed
November 09 2013, 10:36AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Plenty of speculation already, with the likeliest scenario being MacTavish working Holmgren for Simmonds with Hemsky going the other way. That's already out there. Nothing new from anybody since then.

Is Hemsky tradeable? It sounded like initially they wanted Ebs. Hemmer is bound to get hurt soon so I hope they pull off a trade for him but with the Smid trade doesn't there have to be more to it the hemmer for Simmonds? I would like to assume that MacT knows we are not going to win a playoff spot with inexperienced young dmen. What Dmen does Philly legitimately have available and who else would the OIl have to make available?

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#98 rob
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Giroux is 25 and entering his prime years. He's outscored Eberle 223-169 since the start of the 2010-11 season. And you think the Flyers -- at the very least -- would have to throw in Coburn for it to make any sense? OK.

hey Robin,would you trade ebs for giroux staight up?I know I would in a heart beat,but others think its a rip off.I know they are 2 diffrent horses but giroux playing well is exactly what we need!you thoughts?

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#99 Dog Train
November 09 2013, 11:04AM
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Dubnyk is on notice now, while Bryz is getting back in form in OKC, Dubnyk is playing for his job. If he can't get it together now, then he's not going to this season.

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#100 Gerald R. Ford
November 09 2013, 03:48PM
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When MacT didn't pay the ransom for Snyder at the draft this year, I was pretty upset. All Devin Dubnyk's proven in his tenure here is that he's better then Jeff Deslauriers. So is a wet piece of cardboard blowing down the Henday. I'm not saying that everything bad that's happened this year is on the shoulders of the goaltending (today's effort was a good example of TEAM fail), but this young team desperately needed (and needs) some sort of outward-resonating stability that starts in goal. An insurance policy that they could rely on to save their collective ass when they made their inevitable mistakes, and to make everyone an inch taller, and a little faster. MacT gambling the season on DD because he didn't want to pay Gillis market value for trading a number 1 goalie to a hated divisional rival still portends badly for this organization doing the safe thing, instead of the necessary thing. Now, desperation has resulted in an ursaphobic clown being brought into town, and the organization being mocked ever more, spiraling further and further into the depths of irrelevance.

I know the assets that the Oilers retained in lieu of the Snyder trade will help the team eventually, down the road (Nurse is a BEAUTY!), but, I am frustrated thinking how much good, stable goaltending THIS year might have accelerated the overall growth of the existing (and future) team collectively, instead of adding one blue-chip positional prospect at a time.

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