Disaster

Jonathan Willis
November 09 2013 03:09PM

The Edmonton Oilers had a chance on Saturday to pick up two points from one of the league's worst teams. They had healthy bodies back, the Flyers had lost two straight, and this game represented a real opportunity to start things turning around after a strong effort in a win over Florida and a stronger one in a loss to Tampa Bay.

It didn't happen.

Losing Badly

It's not just that the Oilers lost, or who they lost against, but how they lost. Some fans will want to place the blame on Devan Dubnyk - who was actually reasonably solid until that fourth goal - or on the referees for mistakenly assessing a major penalty against an innocent Anton Belov.

But the real problem was the skaters. The following chart shows on-ice scoring chances at even-strength for the Oilers forwards against Philadelphia, as counted by me.

Player EV+ EV- Percentage
Luke Gazdic 0 1 0.0%
Jordan Eberle 1 7 12.5%
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1 6 14.3%
Boyd Gordon 1 4 20.0%
Ryan Smyth 1 4 20.0%
Taylor Hall 4 8 33.3%
Jesse Joensuu 1 2 33.3%
Mark Arcobello 2 4 33.3%
Sam Gagner 4 6 40.0%
Ales Hemsky 5 7 41.7%
David Perron 3 3 50.0%
Nail Yakupov 2 1 66.7%

And for the defence:

Player EV+ EV- Percentage
Nick Schultz 1 6 14.3%
Taylor Fedun 1 5 16.7%
Andrew Ference 2 9 18.2%
Jeff Petry 2 7 22.2%
Philip Larsen 6 6 50.0%
Anton Belov 6 5 54.5%

For the most part, it was the Oilers' best players getting killed against the Flyers. Jordan Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Taylor Hall all had among the worst marks on the team in this regard. These are the guys that typically push results - and did last year, even as the rest of the team gave everything back and then some. On defence, the Oilers top pairing of Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry were lit up, too.

The Oilers play in Chicago tomorrow. It seems unlikely to go well.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#201 Rod from Viking
November 09 2013, 10:49PM
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DSF wrote:

Beyond that.

The Wings on steroids.

This is their putative centre depth.

Kopitar

Richards

Carter

Stoll

Nolan

Toffoli

Lewis

Fraser

Weal

Now, obviously, they all can't play C at the NHL level but, in reality, they have 8 NHL calibre centres. 8.

Someone knows how to draft.

Carter, Richards and Fraser were trades that LA won.

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#202 Rod from Viking
November 09 2013, 10:50PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Carter, Richards and Fraser were trades that LA won.

Oh and Stoll, who were the dummies that traded him?

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#203 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 10:50PM
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@Rod from Viking

He's obviously not saying they were all drafted by the Kings...

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#204 DSF
November 09 2013, 10:50PM
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In other news...

The Minnesota Wild, who won tonight, now occupy the final wild card spot with 24 points.

They are on pace for a 109 point season.

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#205 IsaacsRevenge
November 09 2013, 10:51PM
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Smokey wrote:

If your argument is oh we can't have another coach, so we have stick with a guy who has this team outta the playoffs by November. Are you serious.

Its more then just the coach, I admit. The team has quit, can you not see that? So lets watch them quit for the remainder of the year, lets watch them quit next year. Confidence is gone, and you have to start looking forward to next year cause common sense says its over.

I say get a coach with track record, revamp this team starting now, and build a group for next year. They make same mistakes every game. One offensive player is playing with confidence. You got three goalies with no confidence. Your defence is suspect outside of Petry and maybe Larson. So ya you got three players playing well, lets continue this trend. And lets throw in a media darling who hates winters, and has a fear of bears, and can't stop pucks. And your argument is we can't have another coach. Brilliant. Any other intelligent comment.

Gotta agree here, I don't think this has ever been the right team for a coach without experience. Maybe MacT was smoking what was given to him, but I would not be afraid to ditch this coach for someone who knows how to introduce system play at an NHL level. Your reason can't be 'not again' or 'we did that too much already'. No offense, Eakins, because you didn't know what you were going into. And maybe Mac didn't either, I can stomach that. I think you are doing Eakins and the Oilers a favour by finding someone with experience, otherwise you might wreck the coach, the team and the organization even more. Stop the bleeding.

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#206 DSF
November 09 2013, 10:53PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Carter, Richards and Fraser were trades that LA won.

Yeah, Lombardi also wins trades.

Don't forget Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky who turned into Whitney who turned into SFA.

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#207 Oasis
November 09 2013, 10:56PM
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IsaacsRevenge wrote:

I am usually just a reader, and I hate pouty bitches that come on here and say 'this team sucks, I give up on them'. If the Oilers are your team, they are your team... But... This is wearing even diehards like me very very thin. I honestly think that MacT is pushing this team to see how bad it really is. Watching today's came, the holes were never more obvious. And getting rid of another effort-giving gritty player in Smid? The only message I see here is stop hiding behind others and start playing hard. Take your knocks, learn a system and start getting your personal development back on track. I don't think MacT likes where each players development has gone, and it is showing in their play. It looks like they are resetting back to the third rebuilding year by forcing the team to learn a system and develop individually. This just pisses me the F off because of all of the time we invested in watching the last two years, not realizing it was a complete waste. We were watching the team float on their existing skillset rather than seeing them develop into NHL players. I am glad they are not dishing Ebs away right now. Don't deal until the group you have is able to stabilize and learn system play. To me, the reason why new players came here in the past and failed was due to the lack of development and structure. This year you see a coach with structure, and new players coming in and buying it, but our core rebuild team has never learned structure play. You can't expect new players to want to play here without stability. Further to that, Bryzgalov coming in just introduces more instability in the locker room. I hate it because this only helps strip the locker room down even more. We have to see rock bottom, watch them learn to play through it. This should have been recognized years ago, Tambo didn't see it and KLowe was oblivious. I had no problem with the two of them until now... These games are exposing the real team.

One word........"paragraphs".

Try them sometime.

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#208 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 10:59PM
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DSF wrote:

Yeah, Lombardi also wins trades.

Don't forget Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky who turned into Whitney who turned into SFA.

Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…

Whitney… good god, a calamity... though I don't recall Lombardi being involved in that trade :)

What is "SFA"?

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#209 BURROWSHASCRABS
November 09 2013, 11:03PM
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What the hell ever asshat, wait till Minny plays LA who just spanked your Casucks!!

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#210 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:03PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…

Whitney… good god, a calamity... though I don't recall Lombardi being involved in that trade :)

What is "SFA"?

A saw off...LOL.

Lombardi moved Visnovsky because he wasn't a good fit at his pay grade.

What the Oilers did with that asset subsequently is hardly his fault or his concern.

Sweet F All

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#211 IsaacsRevenge
November 09 2013, 11:08PM
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Oasis wrote:

One word........"paragraphs".

Try them sometime.

Well, my emotions boiled over and I forgot how to write a proper novel. Did you happen to get through what I said and have an opinion on it? Or are you just a freelance late-night blog editor?

And I have a word for you: feelings. You hurt mine.

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#212 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:10PM
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BURROWSHASCRABS wrote:

What the hell ever asshat, wait till Minny plays LA who just spanked your Casucks!!

LA is one hell of a team.

The Wild are just making their way into elite status.

When they can divest themselves of Dany Heatley and his anchor contract and replace him with Tomas Vanek, they'll be an elite team.

The top 6 teams in chances for and against this season are:

LAK 57.1%

SJS 56.8%

CHI 55.5%

BOS 53%

STL 52.6%

MIN 52.5%

P.S. The Oilers are 28th.

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#213 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 11:13PM
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DSF wrote:

A saw off...LOL.

Lombardi moved Visnovsky because he wasn't a good fit at his pay grade.

What the Oilers did with that asset subsequently is hardly his fault or his concern.

Sweet F All

Why the Kings traded him is irrelevant.

The team that gets the best player wins, so the old adage goes. Vis was (and still probably is) the best player in that trade and had a lot of miles left.

Not sure how the Oil lost that one. Seems like both teams got what they wanted.

You brought Whitney up in a conversation about Lombardi winning trades. You tell me why it's his fault or concern.

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#214 Ari Gold
November 09 2013, 11:14PM
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Read another quote on TSN:

hawk43 2 hours ago

Not an Oil fan but a once proud team is in need of a management change. Lowe has been at the head of this team on their way down and has done nothing to help them recover but take the #1 picks and all the same type of players. This team need few good vets to help the good young talent they have and a couple of good stay at home Dmen would help also. Seems the assistant coaches never seem to be changed even tho the head coaches keep getting removed-- are they grandfathered there for life? The owner had better make some changes to restore some pride back into this team. This is begining to look like Harold Ballard is running this team-- long as the seats are full why make changes. The Oil fans deserve better, Lowe said he know winning but doesn't look like it!

Chicago fans feel bad for us, even the night before they play us. Seriously, now that's pathetic. We do not deserve this. Shame on your Katz.

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#215 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:18PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Why the Kings traded him is irrelevant.

The team that gets the best player wins, so the old adage goes. Vis was (and still probably is) the best player in that trade and had a lot of miles left.

Not sure how the Oil lost that one. Seems like both teams got what they wanted.

You brought Whitney up in a conversation about Lombardi winning trades. You tell me why it's his fault or concern.

Lombardi got rid of Visnovsky for two NHL players.

That Lowe then fumbled the ball is nothing more than collateral damage.

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#216 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 11:21PM
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@DSF

Not sure what we are arguing about here.

Trading for Vis = excellent move

Trading Vis for Whitney = absolute calamity

If you disagree with this (and you must, otherwise why keep pressing the issue) tell me why… you haven't made a case against these obvious points yet.

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#217 Rod from Viking
November 09 2013, 11:21PM
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DSF wrote:

Yeah, Lombardi also wins trades.

Don't forget Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky who turned into Whitney who turned into SFA.

I know,my therapist wants me to forget this trade as well as Brodziak and letting Glencross go for nothing, SFA? South Florida ALLwashed up? Sweet F--- All.

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#218 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:35PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Not sure what we are arguing about here.

Trading for Vis = excellent move

Trading Vis for Whitney = absolute calamity

If you disagree with this (and you must, otherwise why keep pressing the issue) tell me why… you haven't made a case against these obvious points yet.

Your major premise is wrong.

Trading for Vis...moving two young, cheap players for an overpaid vet at the start of a rebuild was not an "excellent move". It was dumb and needed to be corrected shortly thereafter,

Trading Vis for Whitney, who had a documentable injury history was, as you say, a calamity.

And also dumb.

Don't get me started on the Souray situation.

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#219 chuckcouples
November 10 2013, 12:39AM
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Can someone try and explain to me what Taylor Hall was thinking on the Flyers' 2nd goal? Why exactly is he at the redline skating towards the Flyers end while Hartnell puts the puck in the net?

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013020245-304-h

So...Taylor vs Tyler?

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#220 PutzStew
November 10 2013, 01:25AM
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chuckcouples wrote:

Can someone try and explain to me what Taylor Hall was thinking on the Flyers' 2nd goal? Why exactly is he at the redline skating towards the Flyers end while Hartnell puts the puck in the net?

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013020245-304-h

So...Taylor vs Tyler?

Learned that from Hemsky. COH can't give you an error on a goal if you are no were near the play.

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#221 walter white
November 10 2013, 01:41AM
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Ari Gold wrote:

I'm calling for Lowe, MacT & Eakins with the rest of the coaching staff to resign. Then we can begin a rebuild that keeps Perron, Gordon, Arcobello, Hall & Belov.

Mac T brought in 4 of the guys you want to keep he needs to stay...and Eakins need for time, The rest can go

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#222 Nimrod
November 10 2013, 01:48AM
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The team is soft and can't play winning hockey. That's not on the coach. It's on the players who already are millionaires, who refuse to put in the effort to win games.

They're coach killers and the $6M boys and their refusal to play a two-way game and their constant dangles and turnovers are trying their hardest to get another coach fired. I think it's time to get rid of one or two of them instead. That's the only way to make them snap out of whatever Oil Change fueled fantasy of being superstars they have and start acting like proper NHL players.

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#223 Jofa
November 10 2013, 03:25AM
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Sure am glad we rushed these guys into the NHL. Imagine how much better this team could have been if we transitioned them into professionals rather than dropping junior players onto the team and expecting them to lead us to the promised land.

Extremely disappointing how this rebuild opportunity is being squandered. These seasons of failure and ineptitude make the Atlanta Thrashers look like an enviable team building approach, and GMs like Jay Feaster look like geniuses. What a waste this is turning out to be.

It's in Katz's hands now, which doesn't give me much comfort. Please, clean house and bring in some experienced hockey minds to run this team, preferably with no connection to the Edmonton glory years, before it is too late to salvage this rebuilding disaster.

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#224 Rheal1
November 10 2013, 03:56AM
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Every single decision taken by the management reeks idiocy. This team and its managers are the butt end of many jokes. The Oilers are -sigh- a useless franchise at this stage. I'd rather see Katz move this embarrassment away. In any case I feel sad as the Oilers are imploding. It is happening. Now. This team can actually get worst than it already is. How much more ill can KLowe do to this team?

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#225 spliff
November 10 2013, 03:57AM
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I am losing interest, not just in the season, but in this franchise. I've been a loyal fan my whole life, but not getting a sniff of playoff hockey for 8 years is killing it for me. Whats the point in cheering for a team with such incompetent management, that they can't get their team in the playoffs once in awhile. I'm lucky I live overseas and can tune it out pretty easily if I want to. I've always been a very loyal fan buy watching your team lose all the time, year after year, is boring. I have no trust anymore in any of the managers of this team. I think they honestly don't have a f*cking clue what they are doing, and they have turned this once respected franchise into a joke of the league. The product is not entertaining anymore, but only pathetic.

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#226 Spydyr
November 10 2013, 05:22AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

No one implied that was a necessary eventuality.

However, it is a great deal more probable than his historical play suddenly and forever cratering.

Every player eventually craters.That is why they retire.Some younger then others.

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#227 Spydyr
November 10 2013, 05:27AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

One of those "intangibles" I keep hearing about.

Not enough fights probably aren't helping him either :)

Somewhere there must be a nice chart that shows intangibles .We all know stats tell the whole story.The game is played on the ice not on a spreadsheet.

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#228 Spydyr
November 10 2013, 05:33AM
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Hockey Problems wrote:

The problem is that the Oilers are TOO soft for almost any defensive strategy. 4 coaches. 1 problem. SOFT !!!

Nuge: Soft

Ebs: Soft

Hall: Soft

Yak: Soft

Gags: Soft

Hemsky: Soft

Arcobello: Soft

Jones: Soft

Petry: Soft

N. Schultz: Soft

J. Schultz: Soft

Larsen: Soft

What has been done in recent history to make this team harder to play against ?! Trade away Smid.

Trade away Brown.

Ya. Wow, teams are shakin in their boots !!

Brown and Smid did not fit in.They were not soft enough.They had to go.

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#229 Spydyr
November 10 2013, 05:40AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…

Whitney… good god, a calamity... though I don't recall Lombardi being involved in that trade :)

What is "SFA"?

"Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…"

Maybe on the stats spreadsheet .On the ice not even close.The Oilers have been looking for players like Stoll and Greene since Lowe sent them away for a puck moving defencman.They have not made the playoffs as they looked.

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#230 Bryzarro World
November 10 2013, 05:46AM
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Oasis wrote:

One word........"paragraphs".

Try them sometime.

Yup. When children crap on a post like this I just skip it. If you can't be bothered to attempt writing properly then I'm not goimg to waste even more of my time trying to read that junk..

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#231 RexHolez
November 10 2013, 07:27AM
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I keep wondering why people keep watching, reading and posting about this pathetic team, then I remember that everyone always looks at an accident when driving by one.

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#232 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 10 2013, 07:41AM
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You are all insane.

The Whitney deal is clearly BS, but the Lubo trade was magical and had the team kept him they would have been in far greater shape going forward.

3Cs and bottom pairing Ds are way more replaceable than top pairing Ds. Everyone knows this. DSF knows this (when Oilers aren't involved).

We've been looking for Vis ever since he left.

http://oilersnation.com/2009/8/14/the-oilers-won-the-visnovsky-trade

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#233 big slick
November 10 2013, 07:47AM
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There is only one thing left to do...finish higher than the Flames.

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#234 15w40
November 10 2013, 08:04AM
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In true Oiler fashion, they will finish in the higher ranking for the lottery AGAIN this year, in a year when the top rated prospect is a smallish forward.

Then when they actually have a chance to grab a generational talent the following year, they will probably do just enough to finish out of the running there...........or maybe not.

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#235 Batfink
November 10 2013, 08:06AM
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So, I think what we're looking for is the 'common denominator'. When all the electrical outlets on circuit in your house stop working, can it be ALL the outlets (players) have failed? Possible, yes. Probable, no. So, what binds these outlets together? The circuit breaker (coach). You've discovered that you've put the wrong one in again, too light duty. Doesn't matter that you've changed it 3 times already in the last couple years. First one (PQ) is obsolete, can't buy it anymore. So you've replaced it with the second one (TR) that kinda works, but isn't great. The third one (RK) you barely use as you think you have found the perfect circuit breaker that says all the right things on the box. Only the manufacturers (GM) promises are BS. And you have to keep it for 4 yrs as it was expensive and on the credit. Get the right part for the job, doesn't matter how many you've had, do your homework do it right.

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#236 Rob F
November 10 2013, 08:10AM
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Things i hear from management and their puppets on 630.

sure last year good pk and pp but 5 on 5 no good and this year 5 on 5 is better just a matter of time until our advantage in shots turns this around

oilers started season injured. wait till they have their full line up

this isnt McTs team. wait till he gets his guys in

Now its....hey MacT didnt draft these guys, Tambellini did. Im hearing stuff like........ all Tambellinis fault, and Kruger didnt cut it.....can u say scapegoats.....or where i come from....excuses.....and deflect blame

as soon as Bryzgalof turns into an epic failure, he will also be blamed

i remember just after Oilers went to final in 2006, the cocky attitude this franchise had and laforge strutting around town talking up their accomplishments.....just before jacking up season tickets by a lot and justifying it by the performance on the ice

this is bad....ive had season tickets for 14 years. i go to 2 games per year......i sell them to strangers.........only good thing the franchise has done is print the ticketmaster prices on the tickets.....i now make money on the suffering of others.....not proud of this id rather watch quality on the ice

we've suffered long enough.....REVOLT!

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#237 Rob F
November 10 2013, 08:13AM
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big slick wrote:

There is only one thing left to do...finish higher than the Flames.

not gonna happen....i heard they got a defenceman recently for some magic beans

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#238 Rob F
November 10 2013, 08:20AM
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Pete wrote:

Yeah, what he said. Usually when people b#tch about a product they stop using it. STOP USING IT!!

sorry to be picky

oilers preferred restaurants dont deserve to be targeted....they probably pay advertising $ to be listed....if anything they are also not getting what they paid for.....

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#239 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
November 10 2013, 08:50AM
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This is much like watching the movie Perfect Storm. Lowe is over confident captain, heading into the wave of competition he has no clue on how to compete with.

This continues in the coming years. As ticket prices continue to rise, and fan interest tails off considerably, Katz will have his hands out yet again at City Hall when what's left of this team moves over into a 2/3rds empty new facility.

Little joy will remain in Oilersnation when Katz finally realizes his ole party buddy was an All Hat, no Cattle wannabe pilot of an NHL team. He'll eventually have to ask Kevin to leave Edmonton, but a good boat/franchise is totally useless when it rests at the bottom of the ocean.

Lowe needs to go NOW, before it's too late. Can't have this poser running things when these kids want to salvage what's left of their careers.

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#240 Rob Gilgan
November 10 2013, 08:51AM
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@Ari Gold

"This is begining to look like Harold Ballard is running this team-- long as the seats are full why make changes."

You nailed it. They prefer the Leafs' business model to the Wings'. When you're selling every seat every night, why change?

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#241 Rob Gilgan
November 10 2013, 09:07AM
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@Batfink

"So, I think what we're looking for is the 'common denominator'. "

The new common denominator is the arena downtown. Oiler fans will flock to it, regardless of the team's success on the ice. They'll keep buying seasons tickets because it's 'saving the downtown' and a great place to park their lift kit.

The kids, by the way, are the same thing. They don't have to win - we've already told them they're the best thing in hockey and they're making six mill apiece. People love to buy those jerseys and associate themselves wit that success.

Eberle jersey + jacked-up one ton + new arena = who needs a Stanley Cup (and what is that anyway?)

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#242 Cold Hard Truth
November 10 2013, 09:16AM
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What we are witnessing -- and it appears to becoming increasingly obvious to most fans -- is the manifestation of an unaccountable and unprofessional management structure.

It is not one or two trivial problems, like goal tending or poor tactics -- in spite of what apologists like Jonathan Willis will have you believe. The problems are deep-seated. And only after we purge the Lowe regime, and install a management structure based off merit and accountability, will the healing process begin.

For the naysayers, ask yourself this:

Would MacTavish have been hired as GM if he did not have a personal connection with Kevin Lowe?

That's the real problem with the Oilers.

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#243 Loweblows
November 10 2013, 09:16AM
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It's official-these kids have been taught how to lose- can we get Krueger back yet?

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#244 Oiler Al
November 10 2013, 09:29AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

The Wings have been a top calibre team for 2 decades now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

The Kings are better now and have a brighter future and look built to last… but who knows what the future holds.

Kings drafting… something special.

DSF and Romulus, spare us this senseless unending drivel, and just go and get a motel room .

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#245 Cold Hard Truth
November 10 2013, 09:32AM
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One more thing:

MacTavish will hold out on firing Eakins for as long as possible. To do so would be an admission of failure on his part. So if Eakins is indeed the problem, MacTavish won't solve it in order to save face.

Oilers fans need to stop filling up the building. If continue to do so, we deserve what we get. Katz is a business man. He does not care about your loyalty. When he starts seeing sales plummet, the Lowe regime will be out of there pretty darn quick.

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#246 Batfink
November 10 2013, 09:44AM
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Rob Gilgan wrote:

"So, I think what we're looking for is the 'common denominator'. "

The new common denominator is the arena downtown. Oiler fans will flock to it, regardless of the team's success on the ice. They'll keep buying seasons tickets because it's 'saving the downtown' and a great place to park their lift kit.

The kids, by the way, are the same thing. They don't have to win - we've already told them they're the best thing in hockey and they're making six mill apiece. People love to buy those jerseys and associate themselves wit that success.

Eberle jersey + jacked-up one ton + new arena = who needs a Stanley Cup (and what is that anyway?)

You forgot the affliction t-shirts and tap-out ball caps with straight peaks, lol. But I think you may be on to something.

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#247 OilFanInVan
November 10 2013, 09:50AM
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I think a few things are responsible for this sinking ship:

1. Management

Management is arrogant (based on public interviews) and incompetent (based on the last umpteen years of results). Any real business owner would not just hire his buddy without an exhaustive search if he cared about his organization. However, the Oilers are in a unique situation where the clients LOVE the organization and continue to pay for its services despite the arrogance and incompetence of management and its employees.

2. Culture

Culture in ANY organization feeds down from management to its employees. Because of this, the employees in this organization are becoming arrogant and incompetent. We have a losing, living in the past, entitled culture on this team. This is very hard to break. Bringing in a new coach can change this, but not if he is a puppet. Changing pictures on a wall, but keeping people around who were in those pictures (Smith, Buchberger, MacT, Lowe) doesn't change a thing.

3. Players

We have some players with a VERY HIGH pedigree. Unfortunately, they've been brought up in a bad culture. Their fellow employees that they can look up to are too embedded in the culture (Hemsky, Smyth, previously Horcoff) and have taught them how to lose and how not to care. Their management hasn't cracked the whip. They've coddled them and given them large contracts. They didn't give them an extra year of junior and some time in the AHL. They didn't give them the opportunity to actually learn the game. Instead they were rushed in as impressionable teenagers and what does an impressionable teenager do - follows the rest of the pack.

How do we get out?

1. Besides rectifying the problems above, I see only one person who might be able to turn the ship despite the above issues and that's Taylor Hall. This is the only person currently in this organization, IMHO, with the self-confidence, the desire to win and the gumption to put this entire organization on his back and pull it out of the dumps. Unfortunately, this is a massive burden that I wouldn't want to wish on anyone and unfortunately when Taylor tries to put everyone on his back he seems to get injured.

Good luck Taylor. Are you the next Mark Messier? I sure hope so.

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#248 rickithebear
November 10 2013, 10:06AM
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DKatz: Owns a business that requires people to purchase the ability to stop there suffering.

He either enjoys: helping or people suffering.

He now owns a NHL team people get on lists to get season tickets.

Look at the product under him!

I have my answer!

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#249 Loweblows
November 10 2013, 10:07AM
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We are on track to win 15 games this year! Awesome! That is what I call progress!

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#250 Oasis
November 10 2013, 10:11AM
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IsaacsRevenge wrote:

Well, my emotions boiled over and I forgot how to write a proper novel. Did you happen to get through what I said and have an opinion on it? Or are you just a freelance late-night blog editor?

And I have a word for you: feelings. You hurt mine.

Yeah, I read what you said and there are some good points. I was just being a smart a**.

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