Disaster

Jonathan Willis
November 09 2013 03:09PM

The Edmonton Oilers had a chance on Saturday to pick up two points from one of the league's worst teams. They had healthy bodies back, the Flyers had lost two straight, and this game represented a real opportunity to start things turning around after a strong effort in a win over Florida and a stronger one in a loss to Tampa Bay.

It didn't happen.

Losing Badly

It's not just that the Oilers lost, or who they lost against, but how they lost. Some fans will want to place the blame on Devan Dubnyk - who was actually reasonably solid until that fourth goal - or on the referees for mistakenly assessing a major penalty against an innocent Anton Belov.

But the real problem was the skaters. The following chart shows on-ice scoring chances at even-strength for the Oilers forwards against Philadelphia, as counted by me.

Player EV+ EV- Percentage
Luke Gazdic 0 1 0.0%
Jordan Eberle 1 7 12.5%
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1 6 14.3%
Boyd Gordon 1 4 20.0%
Ryan Smyth 1 4 20.0%
Taylor Hall 4 8 33.3%
Jesse Joensuu 1 2 33.3%
Mark Arcobello 2 4 33.3%
Sam Gagner 4 6 40.0%
Ales Hemsky 5 7 41.7%
David Perron 3 3 50.0%
Nail Yakupov 2 1 66.7%

And for the defence:

Player EV+ EV- Percentage
Nick Schultz 1 6 14.3%
Taylor Fedun 1 5 16.7%
Andrew Ference 2 9 18.2%
Jeff Petry 2 7 22.2%
Philip Larsen 6 6 50.0%
Anton Belov 6 5 54.5%

For the most part, it was the Oilers' best players getting killed against the Flyers. Jordan Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Taylor Hall all had among the worst marks on the team in this regard. These are the guys that typically push results - and did last year, even as the rest of the team gave everything back and then some. On defence, the Oilers top pairing of Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry were lit up, too.

The Oilers play in Chicago tomorrow. It seems unlikely to go well.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#151 Hockey Problems
November 09 2013, 06:05PM
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Virtual_Xi wrote:

Why do people compare Mickey Mouse with being unsuccessful pretty damn successful if you ask me... More like wiley e coyote organization! Geez!

We can't call it that... The Coyotes win once in a while. Mickey Mouse sums it up. Mickey, Mini, Goofy, Pluto... and don't forget the young guns Hewey, Lewey, and Dewey !!!

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#152 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 06:10PM
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Spaz wrote:

I wonder if there are any statistics on equipment changes?

Not that I'm aware of.

However, all the goaltenders are subject to the same pressure in this instance.

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#153 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 09 2013, 07:08PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Well, I'm not defending Dubnyk either.

And, I'm not saying something like "confidence" shouldn't be open to discussion…

I'm just saying we should be more modest about assuming a casual relationship about something we can know very little about, i.e., another person's psychological state and it's affect on performance.

Fair enough......and I think we should be more modest about the value statistics have and the assumptions we make based on them. Respectfully, I find the advanced stats to be helpful in many ways. For instance, they can give us a snap shot of a players performance in several specific areas of endeavour, or a snap shot or assessment of a teams standing or progress in similar specific ways.

But the are more things that aren't measured and compared, that have, in my opinion, more importance than the things we do measure and compare in hockey today.

You call them intangible,I say they are not. The fighting spirit of a Theron Fluery is not measurable and yet the effects of that spirit are not intangible, and had great value and great causal effect. The effect that Dave Semenko fighting had on the overall success of the 80's Oilers and there overall performance, can't be measured...but it is not intangible...and it's effects were tremendous...and that's not just my opinion, that's Wayne Gretzky's opinion.

While statistics can be useful, they typically measure a specific event type, and seldom measure the relationship between specific events, or the causal relationships between multiple simultaneous events. Further to this.....most of these simple statistics do not account for second and third order event consequences. For example, a smaller skilled team may suffer more injuries because of physical size...second order event...more AHL players on roster, or younger players on roster...leads to decreased performance in other areas.

Finally there's cause and effect....team "abc" leads the league in blocked shots....is that because they're well coached and play good positional hockey? Or because they suck and the puck is always in there end?

I think we all need to be more disciplined when drawing conclusions, whether stats based or otherwise.

Unless of course were on Oilersnation....where's it's no holds barred and anything goes!

Sincerely New Age Sys

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#154 Bryzarro World
November 09 2013, 07:27PM
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Clarko wrote:

Because firing our coach has worked brilliantly the last 4 times we did it...

It would have if we hired the right guy. Klowe might know about "winning" but he knows jack about hiring a coach...

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#155 DSF
November 09 2013, 07:58PM
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Alsker wrote:

You`re a better man than me, there is no way I tune into a game unless the fLames are losing. It just hurts too much.

Watch some Big Boy Hockey ®

VCR @ LAK coming right up.

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#156 Oilcruzer
November 09 2013, 08:01PM
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@DSF

"Anyone who has played competitive sports will be able to tell you that confidence is a major factor in performance..."

100% agreed DSF.

I would go so far as to say "...confidence is the leading factor in performance in professional sports..."

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#157 Harlie
November 09 2013, 08:59PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Thank you. I think I'm sobering up now.

As my buddy Corb says, 'it's time to switch to whiskey u been drinkin beer all night'

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#158 Shane
November 09 2013, 09:16PM
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Pete wrote:

Yeah, what he said. Usually when people b#tch about a product they stop using it. STOP USING IT!!

Weren't people saying after the lockout last year to boycott the league? How did that work out?

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#159 Harlie
November 09 2013, 09:24PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

Whenever Ryan Rishaug talks about Oiler players on the TV he refers to them with first and last names or last names only. But when he talks about them on local Edmonton radio he always uses first names only. Too close to the players Rishaug to be impartial? Are you a real live hockey card collector just like Katz?? Either way, this team sucks, and has sucked for the last 15 years. Is anything going to be done about it? I doubt it as long as everyone keeps going to the games and buying the jerseys. Wake up people, stay away, revolt, ask for what you deserve. I you keep putting $$$$$$ in the pockets of Vancouver Katz, he doesn't care. Boycott games, boycott Rexall Place, stop going to preferred Oiler restaurants and stop buying jerseys. MY GOD, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!

You wake up. If that happens the team moves and the downtown dies again. The Oilers are the symbolical fabric of this city and the arena deal proves it.

There is lots of dough in this one horse town and Oil are big league. Otherwise we are Saskatoon and no one wants that. So get over it man, ain't gonna happen.

This city needs Katz and his daddy warbucks wallet and underachieving team and Katz knows it.

Get back in the dark room with the other mushrooms and wait for your feeding.

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#160 Smokey
November 09 2013, 09:43PM
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Primo wrote:

Bad Team and Bad Goaltending on Eakins???? You must be Kevin's first nephew !

Just what the doctor ordered...5 coaches in 6 years. Way to go!

If your argument is oh we can't have another coach, so we have stick with a guy who has this team outta the playoffs by November. Are you serious.

Its more then just the coach, I admit. The team has quit, can you not see that? So lets watch them quit for the remainder of the year, lets watch them quit next year. Confidence is gone, and you have to start looking forward to next year cause common sense says its over.

I say get a coach with track record, revamp this team starting now, and build a group for next year. They make same mistakes every game. One offensive player is playing with confidence. You got three goalies with no confidence. Your defence is suspect outside of Petry and maybe Larson. So ya you got three players playing well, lets continue this trend. And lets throw in a media darling who hates winters, and has a fear of bears, and can't stop pucks. And your argument is we can't have another coach. Brilliant. Any other intelligent comment.

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#161 BleedOil4Life
November 09 2013, 09:50PM
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We are bad because out veteran depth is crap

Jones Eager Smyth Smid (gone) Hemsky

These guys do not lead this team They do not know how to win...we get down a goal These "vets" shut down before the kids do

You look at all the top teams....what do they have?? QUALITY DEPTH AND VETS!

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#162 DSF
November 09 2013, 10:50PM
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In other news...

The Minnesota Wild, who won tonight, now occupy the final wild card spot with 24 points.

They are on pace for a 109 point season.

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#163 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:03PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…

Whitney… good god, a calamity... though I don't recall Lombardi being involved in that trade :)

What is "SFA"?

A saw off...LOL.

Lombardi moved Visnovsky because he wasn't a good fit at his pay grade.

What the Oilers did with that asset subsequently is hardly his fault or his concern.

Sweet F All

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#164 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:18PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Why the Kings traded him is irrelevant.

The team that gets the best player wins, so the old adage goes. Vis was (and still probably is) the best player in that trade and had a lot of miles left.

Not sure how the Oil lost that one. Seems like both teams got what they wanted.

You brought Whitney up in a conversation about Lombardi winning trades. You tell me why it's his fault or concern.

Lombardi got rid of Visnovsky for two NHL players.

That Lowe then fumbled the ball is nothing more than collateral damage.

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#165 Spydyr
November 10 2013, 05:40AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…

Whitney… good god, a calamity... though I don't recall Lombardi being involved in that trade :)

What is "SFA"?

"Vis was probably a saw-off, if not a win for the Oil…"

Maybe on the stats spreadsheet .On the ice not even close.The Oilers have been looking for players like Stoll and Greene since Lowe sent them away for a puck moving defencman.They have not made the playoffs as they looked.

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#166 15w40
November 10 2013, 08:04AM
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In true Oiler fashion, they will finish in the higher ranking for the lottery AGAIN this year, in a year when the top rated prospect is a smallish forward.

Then when they actually have a chance to grab a generational talent the following year, they will probably do just enough to finish out of the running there...........or maybe not.

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#167 Loweblows
November 10 2013, 10:07AM
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We are on track to win 15 games this year! Awesome! That is what I call progress!

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#168 Soccer Steve
November 09 2013, 05:06PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Someone scored from the goal line in the corner.A back breaker goal after the team battled back into the game.Not sure what game you were watching but the one I watched Dubnyk let in two very questionable goals.

The last time a bad team scored against another bad team from the goal line their entire coaching staff was fired.

What do you think? A reach? One can dream.

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#169 Alsker
November 09 2013, 05:35PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

oh no man... you didn't just say it couldn't get worse. Did you?? Did you really??

Well prohibition could be re-instated!! Oh hockey wise, well how!! Blowehard fires Eakins, names MacT coach steps into GM position himself and tells Katz its time to rebuild and HE will lead it this time!!!

Signed Freddie Kreuger

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#170 Spaz
November 09 2013, 06:06PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Of a level of play regressing to the mean?

Pretty high I gather…

The only factors we know about for Gs for sharp and sustained drops in performance (injury and age) don't appear to be in play.

I wonder if there are any statistics on equipment changes?

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#171 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 06:11PM
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DSF wrote:

Loss of confidence is HUGE factor in performance.

One of those "intangibles" I keep hearing about.

Not enough fights probably aren't helping him either :)

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#172 DSF
November 09 2013, 07:55PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Hey Rom, I have no issue with regression to the mean......I'm just asking that you and others in the Stats Pack, and I use the term respectfully, would give a little more consideration to qualifying the conclusions you draw from statistics, or perhaps more importantly, the conclusions you draw regarding events that are typically viewed as non statistical or unmeasurable. While these events may not fall in your bailiwick, they are real, and of sincere importance to others, like me.

I highly value the role age, experience, size, character, desire, courage, aggression, toughness, emotion, selflessness, coaching, player development, coordinated team play, etc have to play in the game. And to be summarily dismissive of these factors because we can't easily measure them is both closed minded and irritating.

So all I'm really asking is for a little awareness that this is how some people perceive the game and derive their enjoyment of the game.

Please and thank you, ORG

Nice.

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#173 DSF
November 09 2013, 08:08PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

"Anyone who has played competitive sports will be able to tell you that confidence is a major factor in performance..."

100% agreed DSF.

I would go so far as to say "...confidence is the leading factor in performance in professional sports..."

Yep.

But there are some folks who will tell you that, since it can't be measured, it isn't important.

You would think they would take the time to ask some athletes about that before proclaiming it a non factor.

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#174 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 08:40PM
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DSF wrote:

Of course the only one raising the body language straw man is you.

????????????????

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#175 RexHolez
November 09 2013, 09:36PM
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Here's what will happen. Bryzgalov will come in, be marginally better then the echl level dubnyk, and the team will lose slightly less games then they currently lose. All the media will praise bryzgalov and point out his average level stats and will call to resign him to a multi year deal. Then next year they'll keep losing like the losers this team is. Finally Katz will have no other option but to finally get rid of Lowe. Then an actual rebuild will start and 4-5 years from now this team won't be as bad of a joke as they currently are. Years away but it will come

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#176 Smokey
November 09 2013, 09:54PM
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Overwatchedandunderpaid wrote:

People can keep complaining about the coaching but there has to come a time as fans that you realize that after all the coaching changes in the past couple of years and the same results that its not the coaches problem. Every year we get a new coach and we get air in our sails and we are filled with positive messages from the coach and we agree with what he says but when the season starts everything falls apart and who else is there to blame but the coach. We can throw any coach under this awful team right now and it wont change the results. The players have to want to play and want to compete to be successful. Until you have that you can throw as many coaches into the fire as you want, nothing will change.

Colorado. Rest my case.

Change the coaches, change the management. Lets start winning.

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#177 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 10:50PM
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@Rod from Viking

He's obviously not saying they were all drafted by the Kings...

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#178 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:10PM
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BURROWSHASCRABS wrote:

What the hell ever asshat, wait till Minny plays LA who just spanked your Casucks!!

LA is one hell of a team.

The Wild are just making their way into elite status.

When they can divest themselves of Dany Heatley and his anchor contract and replace him with Tomas Vanek, they'll be an elite team.

The top 6 teams in chances for and against this season are:

LAK 57.1%

SJS 56.8%

CHI 55.5%

BOS 53%

STL 52.6%

MIN 52.5%

P.S. The Oilers are 28th.

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#179 Rod from Viking
November 09 2013, 11:21PM
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DSF wrote:

Yeah, Lombardi also wins trades.

Don't forget Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky who turned into Whitney who turned into SFA.

I know,my therapist wants me to forget this trade as well as Brodziak and letting Glencross go for nothing, SFA? South Florida ALLwashed up? Sweet F--- All.

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#180 chuckcouples
November 10 2013, 12:39AM
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Can someone try and explain to me what Taylor Hall was thinking on the Flyers' 2nd goal? Why exactly is he at the redline skating towards the Flyers end while Hartnell puts the puck in the net?

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013020245-304-h

So...Taylor vs Tyler?

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#181 walter white
November 10 2013, 01:41AM
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God wrote:

I'm calling for Lowe, MacT & Eakins with the rest of the coaching staff to resign. Then we can begin a rebuild that keeps Perron, Gordon, Arcobello, Hall & Belov.

Mac T brought in 4 of the guys you want to keep he needs to stay...and Eakins need for time, The rest can go

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#182 Spydyr
November 10 2013, 05:27AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

One of those "intangibles" I keep hearing about.

Not enough fights probably aren't helping him either :)

Somewhere there must be a nice chart that shows intangibles .We all know stats tell the whole story.The game is played on the ice not on a spreadsheet.

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#183 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 10 2013, 07:41AM
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You are all insane.

The Whitney deal is clearly BS, but the Lubo trade was magical and had the team kept him they would have been in far greater shape going forward.

3Cs and bottom pairing Ds are way more replaceable than top pairing Ds. Everyone knows this. DSF knows this (when Oilers aren't involved).

We've been looking for Vis ever since he left.

http://oilersnation.com/2009/8/14/the-oilers-won-the-visnovsky-trade

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#184 big slick
November 10 2013, 07:47AM
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There is only one thing left to do...finish higher than the Flames.

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#185 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 04:27PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I've always found it extremely irritating when I click on the Oilers Nation blog, and there's another one of those darn bloggers giving me his opinion!

I say: ENOUGH. It's time to run these thrice cursed bloggers off the blogs and back to... well wherever! The important thing is to get rid of them!

Dubnyk will probably play better when people aren't trying to figure out if his putrid play has a historical precedent on blogs.

It works that way, right?

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#186 Batfink
November 09 2013, 04:40PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Dallas is too tired from his bike ride to get angry.

Lol, probably know down to the last calorie getting angry burns! "Ok, can only lose my 5h1t twice today, then I can have that donut!"

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#187 Slats
November 09 2013, 05:12PM
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There is so many remarks on fire 6 Rings and I get it. We have an Ex-Oiler Regime. We need change. But who?

If you were the owner who would you hire?

If it were me and I wanted to really start organizational change - I would go take that $3.5mm you just saved from the early Smid contract exit and ask for permission to go start discussions with Lou Amoriello - watch the sparks fly!!!

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#188 Dan 1919
November 09 2013, 05:25PM
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DSF wrote:

How bad are the Oilers?

In past seasons, the playoff cutoff was 94-95 points.

This season, with the absolute dominance by the WC (except the Oilers), it'll take a lot more to get in the post season.

The final wild card spot is currently held by the Minnesota Wild.

They are on pace for 106 points.

The Oilers are on pace for 45 points.

Missing the playoffs by 61 points (should current trends continue) should be a firing offence from the top of the corporate ladder all the way to the bottom.

Haha it should, but the 8th spot playoff team will not have 106 points, things will cool down. Mac-T will have one of the young guns traded this year before the TD if things don’t shape up... or the 1st Rounder traded for a solid piece.

Is one of the guys in the top three projected to end up better than Ebs/Yak, then they will trade one of those guys and keep the pick or vise-versa. The Tambi erra is over, if there’s one thing I’m confident of, it is that.

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#189 Serious Gord
November 09 2013, 05:31PM
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Ed in Edmoton wrote:

Thinking about the Smid move of yesterday, I'm thinking perhaps MAcT has already put this season in the history books and is long to next year. Trading a roster player for 2 prospects is hard to interpret any other way.

I'm also wondering is Katz might be pissed that he's paying Grebeshkov 1.5 M to play in the AHL and told MacT he doesn't have a blank check and needs to save some cash.

then how do you explain getting bryz? that is 100% a short-term move.

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#190 Primo
November 09 2013, 05:33PM
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Smokey wrote:

Disaster is this past week. This week title is Clusterfudge once our cosmonaut shows up.

Frankly don't get why you don't run Nuge, Ebs and Hall. The line works and is effective even if the puck does not go in the net. You gotta get this team going, and this line has historically been effective. I'd then do some combo of Gordon, Arco, Perron as their going. They can be your toughs line.

Disappointing loss. Bad team, poor line combos, bad goaltending. That's on Eakins.

Bad Team and Bad Goaltending on Eakins???? You must be Kevin's first nephew !

Just what the doctor ordered...5 coaches in 6 years. Way to go!

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#191 DSF
November 09 2013, 05:34PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

No one implied that was a necessary eventuality.

However, it is a great deal more probable than his historical play suddenly and forever cratering.

What are the odds of that, exactly?

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#192 Ed in Edmonton
November 09 2013, 05:41PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

then how do you explain getting bryz? that is 100% a short-term move.

In the between period interview MacT said be made the move to make room for young defencemen like Nurse (who can't play here this year) and Klefbom ( is he anywhere close? I don't really know). The point is he never claimed the move will make the Oil better because of .... His explanation was it clears the deck for the future.

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#193 Serious Gord
November 09 2013, 05:58PM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

In the between period interview MacT said be made the move to make room for young defencemen like Nurse (who can't play here this year) and Klefbom ( is he anywhere close? I don't really know). The point is he never claimed the move will make the Oil better because of .... His explanation was it clears the deck for the future.

here's what you stated in your original post:

"...I'm thinking perhaps MAcT has already put this season in the history books and is long to next year..."

The Bryz move completely contradicts your thesis.

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#194 2004Z06
November 09 2013, 06:59PM
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Smokey wrote:

I agree. Frankly watching how bad this team is coached, watching the same mistakes over and over again, I could care less if theirs a new coach.

Find a coach who knows defence, and can instill confidence, and who has track record. Give him 60 games to implement his system for next year.

I was so anti Sutter when they hired Krueger, but I have changed my mind, because this team needs "Hitchcockian" transformation. Sutter the guy I want, cause Sutter's get things done. I want boring winning hockey, proper systems, coaches who scare you into being a better team, who don't take crap from anyone.

I'm going to go read draft previews.

Coach doesn't mean squat if the players refuse to commit!

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#195 Alsker
November 09 2013, 07:09PM
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Kirk brackenberry wrote:

Really sad thing is this could just be the start of it...and the same people who created it are steering it still...fcuk

Even if the ship is upside down(had quick flashback to MADS poopside down adventure), as long as it remains afloat(profitable) will they even care?

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#196 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 09 2013, 07:51PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

I think suggesting it is more likely a goaltender in a long slump (with no evident injury and not at the age one usually sees performance falter) will regress to the mean is a pretty modest and qualified statement.

No one is making some bold, radical suggestion here.

And, I don't see anyone discounting "fighting spirit." I would however, challenge the bias that is ever prevalent when such things are doled out at the lunch counter.

Hey Rom, I have no issue with regression to the mean......I'm just asking that you and others in the Stats Pack, and I use the term respectfully, would give a little more consideration to qualifying the conclusions you draw from statistics, or perhaps more importantly, the conclusions you draw regarding events that are typically viewed as non statistical or unmeasurable. While these events may not fall in your bailiwick, they are real, and of sincere importance to others, like me.

I highly value the role age, experience, size, character, desire, courage, aggression, toughness, emotion, selflessness, coaching, player development, coordinated team play, etc have to play in the game. And to be summarily dismissive of these factors because we can't easily measure them is both closed minded and irritating.

So all I'm really asking is for a little awareness that this is how some people perceive the game and derive their enjoyment of the game.

Please and thank you, ORG

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#197 Romulus' Apotheosis
November 09 2013, 08:13PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Hey Rom, I have no issue with regression to the mean......I'm just asking that you and others in the Stats Pack, and I use the term respectfully, would give a little more consideration to qualifying the conclusions you draw from statistics, or perhaps more importantly, the conclusions you draw regarding events that are typically viewed as non statistical or unmeasurable. While these events may not fall in your bailiwick, they are real, and of sincere importance to others, like me.

I highly value the role age, experience, size, character, desire, courage, aggression, toughness, emotion, selflessness, coaching, player development, coordinated team play, etc have to play in the game. And to be summarily dismissive of these factors because we can't easily measure them is both closed minded and irritating.

So all I'm really asking is for a little awareness that this is how some people perceive the game and derive their enjoyment of the game.

Please and thank you, ORG

Once more.

1. I don't think anyone has drawn unqualified conclusions using stats here. I'm sure it has been done and I'm happy to tell you those people are overstepping what the evidence allows.

2. I don't discount "intangibles" or whathaveyou. I do however caution against over-stating variables highly prone to bias, i.e., interpreting a players' "body language" or "confidence." These are real things that actually affect performance. They are also narratives people often default into.

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#198 GK1980
November 09 2013, 08:28PM
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When arev the kids going to realize this is NOT junior hockey. This is NHL hockey. We have too many HEROES who think they are the team and why shouldn't they be going from being all stars in junior now playing in the NHL. But hey they TRIED real hard tonight. Everyone gets a brown star for effort.

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#199 **
November 09 2013, 09:19PM
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Bryzeee!!!!

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#200 Rob Gilgan
November 09 2013, 09:25PM
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@Overwatchedandunderpaid

"there has to come a time as fans that you realize that after all the coaching changes in the past couple of years and the same results that its not the coaches problem"

Everything I've witnessed over the past three weeks leads me to conclude that it is, indeed the coach that's the problem. Confused, dispirited players - the stand out was Gagner, after taking a penalty easing himself back up the ice, not showing any inclination to back check. I think it's past time the 'smart money' in Oilersnation face the fact - Eakins isn't going to get it done. Not this year, not next. The only thing fuelling Oiler fans these days is a healthy dose of masochism.

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