Disaster

Jonathan Willis
November 09 2013 03:09PM

The Edmonton Oilers had a chance on Saturday to pick up two points from one of the league's worst teams. They had healthy bodies back, the Flyers had lost two straight, and this game represented a real opportunity to start things turning around after a strong effort in a win over Florida and a stronger one in a loss to Tampa Bay.

It didn't happen.

Losing Badly

It's not just that the Oilers lost, or who they lost against, but how they lost. Some fans will want to place the blame on Devan Dubnyk - who was actually reasonably solid until that fourth goal - or on the referees for mistakenly assessing a major penalty against an innocent Anton Belov.

But the real problem was the skaters. The following chart shows on-ice scoring chances at even-strength for the Oilers forwards against Philadelphia, as counted by me.

Player EV+ EV- Percentage
Luke Gazdic 0 1 0.0%
Jordan Eberle 1 7 12.5%
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1 6 14.3%
Boyd Gordon 1 4 20.0%
Ryan Smyth 1 4 20.0%
Taylor Hall 4 8 33.3%
Jesse Joensuu 1 2 33.3%
Mark Arcobello 2 4 33.3%
Sam Gagner 4 6 40.0%
Ales Hemsky 5 7 41.7%
David Perron 3 3 50.0%
Nail Yakupov 2 1 66.7%

And for the defence:

Player EV+ EV- Percentage
Nick Schultz 1 6 14.3%
Taylor Fedun 1 5 16.7%
Andrew Ference 2 9 18.2%
Jeff Petry 2 7 22.2%
Philip Larsen 6 6 50.0%
Anton Belov 6 5 54.5%

For the most part, it was the Oilers' best players getting killed against the Flyers. Jordan Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Taylor Hall all had among the worst marks on the team in this regard. These are the guys that typically push results - and did last year, even as the rest of the team gave everything back and then some. On defence, the Oilers top pairing of Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry were lit up, too.

The Oilers play in Chicago tomorrow. It seems unlikely to go well.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 DSF
November 09 2013, 11:10PM
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BURROWSHASCRABS wrote:

What the hell ever asshat, wait till Minny plays LA who just spanked your Casucks!!

LA is one hell of a team.

The Wild are just making their way into elite status.

When they can divest themselves of Dany Heatley and his anchor contract and replace him with Tomas Vanek, they'll be an elite team.

The top 6 teams in chances for and against this season are:

LAK 57.1%

SJS 56.8%

CHI 55.5%

BOS 53%

STL 52.6%

MIN 52.5%

P.S. The Oilers are 28th.

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#52 DSF
November 10 2013, 10:29AM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

You are all insane.

The Whitney deal is clearly BS, but the Lubo trade was magical and had the team kept him they would have been in far greater shape going forward.

3Cs and bottom pairing Ds are way more replaceable than top pairing Ds. Everyone knows this. DSF knows this (when Oilers aren't involved).

We've been looking for Vis ever since he left.

http://oilersnation.com/2009/8/14/the-oilers-won-the-visnovsky-trade

Ask yourself....

Why exactly did Dean Lombardi trade Visnovsky?

Visnovosky was traded to Edmonton in June 2008.

In the 2008 draft, the Kings had selected Drew Doughty, Colten Teubert and Slava Voynov with their first 3 picks.

Lombardi was in full rebuild mode and knew he could create a more balanced roster by moving an over paid veteran to create more balance in his lineup.

Since Lombardi understood that winning teams are built from the back end out and down the middle, the anchors of his young developing roster now looked like this:

G: Quick Bernier

D: Doughty

C: Kopitar, Stoll

Only then, once the foundation of a solid young team was in place, did he start adding forwards.

2009: Schenn, Clifford, Vey, Nolan 2010: Toffoli

Since taking over in 2006, Lombardi had also had spectacular success in the draft with Bernier, Trevor Lewis, Wayne Simmonds, Dwight King, Alex Martinez and Andrei Loktionov.

He had acquired so many solid assets and had managed the cap so well by moving players like Visnovsky, that he was now able to acquire the final pieces in Richards and Carter.

So, while you say the Oilers have been looking for Visnovsky ever since they traded him, what they should have been looking for is Drew Doughty.

With so many top 10 picks in the last 10 drafts they should have been able to acquire a #1D one way or the other but as of this morning their best defenseman is former 2nd round pick, Jeff Petry.

And not only is their D depth weak but they also have close to the worst C depth in the NHL.

Pretty obvious the Lowe regime doesn't have a clue about how to build a winner.

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#53 36Million
November 09 2013, 03:19PM
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Why should I try? Katz doesn't . Management won't . Pay me. Then get me the F out of here. Seriously, this team is an embarrassing exhibition of total incompetence. Sickening.

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#54 Randy
November 09 2013, 03:22PM
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Can you imagine this Kevin Lowe's job based on good results. A novel approach.

What is his record with the Oilers since he retired as a player?

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#55 Randy
November 09 2013, 03:26PM
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Oilers should make a trade for L Smid. Perhaps Gagner or draft picks.

Oilers do need D-men

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#56 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 09 2013, 03:44PM
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Wasting of a good fan base is the goal apparently.

Trading players fixes nothing. the problem is systemic. Attitude reflects leadership in sport. Lowe is the leader and look at the on ice result.

What a complete waste.

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#57 Walter Sobchak
November 09 2013, 04:14PM
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Hair bag wrote:

Duby has been brutal most of the year but today wasn't his fault - he kept them in the game. Every goal Philly scored was from a good quality chance or a snipe by a skilled shooter.

So that Lecavalier goal with 5 minutes left on the goal line is an acceptable goal?

That's a goal that can't go in!! It's deflating and a team killer!

Just a brutal goal.

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#58 Oilcruzer
November 09 2013, 04:23PM
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Hair bag wrote:

Duby has been brutal most of the year but today wasn't his fault - he kept them in the game. Every goal Philly scored was from a good quality chance or a snipe by a skilled shooter.

Meh.

A good (not outstanding... GOOD) goalie keeps you in the game. He makes that save on the third goal, instead of leaving the post early.

The right (his left) post was not in need of protection until after Giroux began to cross past Ference.

In order to have a bad run, you have to have a good run. What if this run is his best? Do we wait for the worst?

And don't run off on past year's performances. This is now or otherwise we may as well start talking about dressing Andy Moog or Grant Fuhr based on their past performances.

This happy go lucky, it'll get better attitude is no good either. I'd like to see Dubey get mad, break sticks, throw equipment, SHOW SOME DAMN EMOTION AND FRUSTRATION!

Hope Bunz has a solid start tonight for OKC.

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#60 Spydyr
November 09 2013, 04:35PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

These players just dont want to or dont know what it takes to win games in the NHL. Very little effort, and energy in their game. Not hard on the puck or body, just going through the motions... Something very wrong with this team. They are either tired or out of shape or just plain dont care anymore.. they havn't all season.

They play a bottom dweller like Philly who were a + 14, while the Oilers were a -14.. Oilers had 2 takeaways and 11 give aways in this game... not exactly hard on the puck team, compared to Philly @ 10 TK and 6 Gv.

In my view, #14, 93, 89, and even 4, didnt show up for this game. They are the core leaders... time to grow some.

"leaders"

You are funny, you make me laugh.

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#61 Batfink
November 09 2013, 04:40PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Dallas is too tired from his bike ride to get angry.

Lol, probably know down to the last calorie getting angry burns! "Ok, can only lose my 5h1t twice today, then I can have that donut!"

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#62 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 09 2013, 04:45PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Oh no, I'm quite easily baited :)

Besides, it's not really that bad. I've had some poor experiences with individuals, but by and large the readers here and on Twitter and elsewhere have been awfully good to me.

To borrow from Joe Walsh, I can't complain though sometimes I still do.

JW, I enjoy what you bring...the advanced stats etc.....on the other hand I think the advanced stats crowd is in its early stages in hockey and draw too many conclusions based on numbers that paint only a small part of the picture that is hockey.

Having said that, any blogger/ analyst who quotes Joe Walsh is OK by me!

"And we don't need the ladies cryin cause the stories sad"

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#63 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 09 2013, 04:49PM
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D-Unit wrote:

It would be nice to see some frustration from the Oilers with all the losing. Wouldn't mind seeing someone do something nasty, like a cross check to someone's teeth. But sadly the Oil have no fight, no heart, no backbone.

Even Gretzky would have taken somebody's teeth out by now!

*disclaimer. Or had Semenko do it*

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#64 Dan 1919
November 09 2013, 04:52PM
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The Oilers have effectively given up and stopped trying. Why? Because earlier in the season it didn’t matter how many goals they would score, DD would find a way to let more in. Just like in this game when the team is getting back into it, DD finds a way to let a weak short side goal in.

Do not get so use to watching DD sieve it up that you begin to think it’s normal. DD let 4 goals in against one of the worst teams in the NHL.

Hopefully they start trying again and Bryz is enough to spark them. I think it will take Bryz to stand on his head and show this team he is for real for them to put in the same effort they did in the first 5 games of the season (hopefully Bryz is capable of that).

Basically what we feared most has happened. Letting DD be a failure back there game after game has completely deflated and defeated this team, let’s just hope they can recover with a new goalie (if he plays well).

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#65 Clarko
November 09 2013, 05:01PM
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Dan 1919 wrote:

The Oilers have effectively given up and stopped trying. Why? Because earlier in the season it didn’t matter how many goals they would score, DD would find a way to let more in. Just like in this game when the team is getting back into it, DD finds a way to let a weak short side goal in.

Do not get so use to watching DD sieve it up that you begin to think it’s normal. DD let 4 goals in against one of the worst teams in the NHL.

Hopefully they start trying again and Bryz is enough to spark them. I think it will take Bryz to stand on his head and show this team he is for real for them to put in the same effort they did in the first 5 games of the season (hopefully Bryz is capable of that).

Basically what we feared most has happened. Letting DD be a failure back there game after game has completely deflated and defeated this team, let’s just hope they can recover with a new goalie (if he plays well).

Stop giving all the other players on this team an excuse not to put in a good effort. Has Dubnyk been bad? Absolutely. But that doesn't give an excuse for the rest of the team to give up.

It is funny that a lot of fans are willing to blame one player for all of this teams woes. But this team also ranks 13th out 14 teams in their conference in goals scored. Bad goaltending and terrible defensive zone coverage (too hard to count how many Flyers had wide open opportunities in the slot today) PLUS no goal scoring support will plummet a team down the standing extremely fast.

This abomination of a team is the ENTIRE team's fault...not just one player's.

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#66 Clarko
November 09 2013, 05:09PM
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Soccer Steve wrote:

The last time a bad team scored against another bad team from the goal line their entire coaching staff was fired.

What do you think? A reach? One can dream.

Because firing our coach has worked brilliantly the last 4 times we did it...

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#67 Dan 1919
November 09 2013, 05:10PM
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@Clarko

You’re right, but DD is the main reason. Don’t get me wrong, the Oilers are not awesome with an average goalie, but they would be in around 9th place right now had DD not single-handedly lost 4-6 games so far this season (the definite four being at the start).

Watching RNH, and Hall give the puck away play after play is getting old. Eberle is stick handling into the corner all the time now like Gagner and Cogs were famous for. The worst part is they give it away at the worst place (blue line entering the zone) so it handcuffs the entire team giving the opposition constant rushes down the ice.

But again, the lack of just good strong hockey plays by the young guns is IMO Klowes fault. When he blew this team up he didn’t leave anybody for these young guys to mentor and learn from about what good solid shifts are night after night. He left a bunch of AHL’ers and washed up NHL’ers collecting the last year or two of NHL paycheques before no one would sign them.

Look at Calgary, in the middle of a rebuild but still guys that compete every night, we haven’t had a team that competes every night since the playoff run.

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#68 Boo,u useless Oiler garbage !!
November 09 2013, 05:12PM
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D-Unit wrote:

It would be nice to see some frustration from the Oilers with all the losing. Wouldn't mind seeing someone do something nasty, like a cross check to someone's teeth. But sadly the Oil have no fight, no heart, no backbone.

I agree. But we all know MUFFINS can't fight, don't have heart, or a spine. Can we petition to change the name of Rexall to The Bakery?? Cuz we got a basket full of muffins right about now.

Each year the management makes changes. They change a third liner here for a ... Um, well a third liner there. The third and fourth line players at least try to check, and play with heart. The problem is the kids don't. Don't beleive me ?!? How has the team improved, now that we're in the fourth year with Hall and Ebs. Nuge still plays with the strength of a fourteen year old girl. And Yak, I think he's trying to memorize the ingredients for a Russian Red Bull. He's out to lunch man. This team is small and weak. I've got the solution... We can just finish last and get that Reinhart kid...

Wait a minute...

What ?!?...

He's 6'1...175lbs !!!

"We can out DAZZLE em with our blinding skill !!!

Please ?!?! Not another one !!!

Shoot me now cuz I have foreseen the future!!!

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#69 Primo
November 09 2013, 05:33PM
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Smokey wrote:

Disaster is this past week. This week title is Clusterfudge once our cosmonaut shows up.

Frankly don't get why you don't run Nuge, Ebs and Hall. The line works and is effective even if the puck does not go in the net. You gotta get this team going, and this line has historically been effective. I'd then do some combo of Gordon, Arco, Perron as their going. They can be your toughs line.

Disappointing loss. Bad team, poor line combos, bad goaltending. That's on Eakins.

Bad Team and Bad Goaltending on Eakins???? You must be Kevin's first nephew !

Just what the doctor ordered...5 coaches in 6 years. Way to go!

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#70 Walter Sobchak
November 09 2013, 05:46PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

I will no longer buy season tickets or Oiler's merchandise,I will gladly take the family on a nice winter holiday instead of supporting the Oiler's by buying seasons tickets,after 14 years. I have had enough of this,It's sad to say, but I bought into the rebuild and believed all the hype that the Oilers propaganda machine puts out in the off season and pre season every year, but no more,I am tired of wasting my hard earned money on Katz and Kevin Lowe and this so called hockey team,I have lost my patience and will not wait another 5-7 years before they get it right.

This will also be my last year as a season seat holder.

I'll use that money to go to LA and watch the Oilers there during the winter.

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#71 Serious Gord
November 09 2013, 05:48PM
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DSF wrote:

How bad are the Oilers?

In past seasons, the playoff cutoff was 94-95 points.

This season, with the absolute dominance by the WC (except the Oilers), it'll take a lot more to get in the post season.

The final wild card spot is currently held by the Minnesota Wild.

They are on pace for 106 points.

The Oilers are on pace for 45 points.

Missing the playoffs by 61 points (should current trends continue) should be a firing offence from the top of the corporate ladder all the way to the bottom.

Agree on all points.

What is annoying me of late is the resistance on the part of many in the EDM sports media - Stauffer and Brown most notably to not criticize Eakins for the lack of effort by the team and the lack of discipline.

And yet it was Eakins who personally guaranteed that the team would always play with effort.

The fall back excuse of many is that we have already had too many coaching changes in a short period.

I say to heck with that. If the coach is failing - and Eakins is arguably failing and inarguably not progressing - firing makes sense regardless of the turnover rate.

What if the oil finish with fewer than 20 wins? Is that grounds to fire Eakins? How could anyone justify keeping him?

I suspect we may see Kreuger 2.0 - management and the press stand foursquare behind Eakins at the end of the season and then a few weeks/months later... he's out the door, and the press says they knew it all along...

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#72 DSF
November 09 2013, 05:59PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Of a level of play regressing to the mean?

Pretty high I gather…

The only factors we know about for Gs for sharp and sustained drops in performance (injury and age) don't appear to be in play.

Loss of confidence is HUGE factor in performance.

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#73 Rama Lama
November 09 2013, 06:03PM
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I wish the problem was as simple as your article suggests...........it's our skaters. Really, so we are back to this being simply a player problem?

Well I'm not buying that as the sole issue anymore. Let's see, Patrick Roy came to a team very similar in skill to ours at basically the same development curve as we are in and they are off and running.

Yea Patrick had absolutely nothing to do with the start, it was all the players that decided to play for him.

Why do our player NOT play for MR. Fitness?

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#74 Hockey Problems
November 09 2013, 06:05PM
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Virtual_Xi wrote:

Why do people compare Mickey Mouse with being unsuccessful pretty damn successful if you ask me... More like wiley e coyote organization! Geez!

We can't call it that... The Coyotes win once in a while. Mickey Mouse sums it up. Mickey, Mini, Goofy, Pluto... and don't forget the young guns Hewey, Lewey, and Dewey !!!

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#75 DSF
November 09 2013, 06:19PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

One of those "intangibles" I keep hearing about.

Not enough fights probably aren't helping him either :)

Not all things that can be counted matter.

Not all things that matter can be counted.

- A. Einstein.

(although I'm pretty sure you think you're smarter.)

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#76 Gerald R. Ford
November 09 2013, 06:20PM
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@DSF

That may be the most sobering statistic of this sad mess. I can't wait for THAT question this off-season!

"So, Craig... where are you going to find those extra THIRTY-ONE (!) wins just to crawl into the playoffs this year?"

"..."

Yikes!

Does Katz even know what's happening these days? I know it's hard to see over the Rockies...

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#77 2004Z06
November 09 2013, 06:59PM
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Smokey wrote:

I agree. Frankly watching how bad this team is coached, watching the same mistakes over and over again, I could care less if theirs a new coach.

Find a coach who knows defence, and can instill confidence, and who has track record. Give him 60 games to implement his system for next year.

I was so anti Sutter when they hired Krueger, but I have changed my mind, because this team needs "Hitchcockian" transformation. Sutter the guy I want, cause Sutter's get things done. I want boring winning hockey, proper systems, coaches who scare you into being a better team, who don't take crap from anyone.

I'm going to go read draft previews.

Coach doesn't mean squat if the players refuse to commit!

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#78 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 09 2013, 07:08PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Well, I'm not defending Dubnyk either.

And, I'm not saying something like "confidence" shouldn't be open to discussion…

I'm just saying we should be more modest about assuming a casual relationship about something we can know very little about, i.e., another person's psychological state and it's affect on performance.

Fair enough......and I think we should be more modest about the value statistics have and the assumptions we make based on them. Respectfully, I find the advanced stats to be helpful in many ways. For instance, they can give us a snap shot of a players performance in several specific areas of endeavour, or a snap shot or assessment of a teams standing or progress in similar specific ways.

But the are more things that aren't measured and compared, that have, in my opinion, more importance than the things we do measure and compare in hockey today.

You call them intangible,I say they are not. The fighting spirit of a Theron Fluery is not measurable and yet the effects of that spirit are not intangible, and had great value and great causal effect. The effect that Dave Semenko fighting had on the overall success of the 80's Oilers and there overall performance, can't be measured...but it is not intangible...and it's effects were tremendous...and that's not just my opinion, that's Wayne Gretzky's opinion.

While statistics can be useful, they typically measure a specific event type, and seldom measure the relationship between specific events, or the causal relationships between multiple simultaneous events. Further to this.....most of these simple statistics do not account for second and third order event consequences. For example, a smaller skilled team may suffer more injuries because of physical size...second order event...more AHL players on roster, or younger players on roster...leads to decreased performance in other areas.

Finally there's cause and effect....team "abc" leads the league in blocked shots....is that because they're well coached and play good positional hockey? Or because they suck and the puck is always in there end?

I think we all need to be more disciplined when drawing conclusions, whether stats based or otherwise.

Unless of course were on Oilersnation....where's it's no holds barred and anything goes!

Sincerely New Age Sys

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#79 Quintana
November 09 2013, 07:55PM
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Why in the hell we fired Tambo? Man I miss him...

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#80 Pete
November 09 2013, 09:06PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

Whenever Ryan Rishaug talks about Oiler players on the TV he refers to them with first and last names or last names only. But when he talks about them on local Edmonton radio he always uses first names only. Too close to the players Rishaug to be impartial? Are you a real live hockey card collector just like Katz?? Either way, this team sucks, and has sucked for the last 15 years. Is anything going to be done about it? I doubt it as long as everyone keeps going to the games and buying the jerseys. Wake up people, stay away, revolt, ask for what you deserve. I you keep putting $$$$$$ in the pockets of Vancouver Katz, he doesn't care. Boycott games, boycott Rexall Place, stop going to preferred Oiler restaurants and stop buying jerseys. MY GOD, WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!

Yeah, what he said. Usually when people b#tch about a product they stop using it. STOP USING IT!!

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#81 Rob Gilgan
November 09 2013, 09:25PM
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@Overwatchedandunderpaid

"there has to come a time as fans that you realize that after all the coaching changes in the past couple of years and the same results that its not the coaches problem"

Everything I've witnessed over the past three weeks leads me to conclude that it is, indeed the coach that's the problem. Confused, dispirited players - the stand out was Gagner, after taking a penalty easing himself back up the ice, not showing any inclination to back check. I think it's past time the 'smart money' in Oilersnation face the fact - Eakins isn't going to get it done. Not this year, not next. The only thing fuelling Oiler fans these days is a healthy dose of masochism.

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#82 BleedOil4Life
November 09 2013, 09:50PM
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We are bad because out veteran depth is crap

Jones Eager Smyth Smid (gone) Hemsky

These guys do not lead this team They do not know how to win...we get down a goal These "vets" shut down before the kids do

You look at all the top teams....what do they have?? QUALITY DEPTH AND VETS!

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#83 IsaacsRevenge
November 09 2013, 10:09PM
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MF... Post fail.

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#84 Pouzar99
November 09 2013, 10:12PM
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I thought Dubnyk and a few missed chances by the Flyers actually kept the Oilers in the game until he blew the 4th one very late. They didn't come close to the same effort level they mustered against Florida and Tampa Bay. We need to bring in psychiatrists not hockey analysts to explain what the story is with these guys. We actually have at least one on FISO but he can't figure them out either.

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#85 IsaacsRevenge
November 09 2013, 11:08PM
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Oasis wrote:

One word........"paragraphs".

Try them sometime.

Well, my emotions boiled over and I forgot how to write a proper novel. Did you happen to get through what I said and have an opinion on it? Or are you just a freelance late-night blog editor?

And I have a word for you: feelings. You hurt mine.

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#86 chuckcouples
November 10 2013, 12:39AM
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Can someone try and explain to me what Taylor Hall was thinking on the Flyers' 2nd goal? Why exactly is he at the redline skating towards the Flyers end while Hartnell puts the puck in the net?

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013020245-304-h

So...Taylor vs Tyler?

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#87 Quicksilver ballet
November 10 2013, 08:50AM
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This is much like watching the movie Perfect Storm. Lowe is over confident captain, heading into the wave of competition he has no clue on how to compete with.

This continues in the coming years. As ticket prices continue to rise, and fan interest tails off considerably, Katz will have his hands out yet again at City Hall when what's left of this team moves over into a 2/3rds empty new facility.

Little joy will remain in Oilersnation when Katz finally realizes his ole party buddy was an All Hat, no Cattle wannabe pilot of an NHL team. He'll eventually have to ask Kevin to leave Edmonton, but a good boat/franchise is totally useless when it rests at the bottom of the ocean.

Lowe needs to go NOW, before it's too late. Can't have this poser running things when these kids want to salvage what's left of their careers.

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#88 Gerald R. Ford
November 09 2013, 04:14PM
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It's only a matter of time before one of these high-potential first round draft picks simply refuses to sign here. I don't think I could blame any kid who'd wait to go back into the draft rather than waste an entry level contract "developing" in this organization.

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#89 Spydyr
November 09 2013, 04:21PM
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Clarko wrote:

I understand that Dubnyk hasn't been great this season, but our defensive zone coverage today was abysmal. Even on the last goal, you can see Schultz, Smyth, and Gagner covering nobody while Lecavlier stands alone at the side of the net.

The scoring chances were like 2 or 3 to 1 today.

Lecavlier was standing on the goal line half way to the corner.No goal ever should go in from there.He was not a scoring threat from there.

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#90 vetinari
November 09 2013, 04:24PM
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64. That's how many more games we have left this season. Even in the years that we finished last in the league, we never reached this low, this early in a season.

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#92 Spydyr
November 09 2013, 04:31PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Dubnyk will probably play better when people aren't trying to figure out if his putrid play has a historical precedent on blogs.

It works that way, right?

Almost as well as a nice chart.

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#93 Oiler Al
November 09 2013, 04:32PM
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These players just dont want to or dont know what it takes to win games in the NHL. Very little effort, and energy in their game. Not hard on the puck or body, just going through the motions... Something very wrong with this team. They are either tired or out of shape or just plain dont care anymore.. they havn't all season.

They play a bottom dweller like Philly who were a + 14, while the Oilers were a -14.. Oilers had 2 takeaways and 11 give aways in this game... not exactly hard on the puck team, compared to Philly @ 10 TK and 6 Gv.

In my view, #14, 93, 89, and even 4, didnt show up for this game. They are the core leaders... time to grow some.

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#94 Craig1981
November 09 2013, 04:33PM
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Its only early November and I am already googleing next years draft.........

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#95 Batfink
November 09 2013, 04:38PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

I'd like to know when Eakins is going to start holding our top players accountable? As long as our guys continue getting their shifts after they make the same mistakes over and over, nothing will change. Start stapling their asses to the bench and start sending the message that it is unacceptable. Our chance of winning diminishes with our top guys sitting but we are losing anyway so what is there to lose? Short term pain for long term gain.

Eakins needs to hold himself at least in part accountable. Yes, the players have to excute the plan, but even a good plan executed badly has a chance. However, a bad plan badly executed......

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#96 D-Unit
November 09 2013, 04:42PM
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It would be nice to see some frustration from the Oilers with all the losing. Wouldn't mind seeing someone do something nasty, like a cross check to someone's teeth. But sadly the Oil have no fight, no heart, no backbone.

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#97 Batfink
November 09 2013, 04:45PM
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D-Unit wrote:

It would be nice to see some frustration from the Oilers with all the losing. Wouldn't mind seeing someone do something nasty, like a cross check to someone's teeth. But sadly the Oil have no fight, no heart, no backbone.

We knew that when Gags was the victim of enthusiastic amateur dentist Dr Kassian and nobody punched him in the face.

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#98 Randaman
November 09 2013, 04:49PM
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Hair bag wrote:

Duby has been brutal most of the year but today wasn't his fault - he kept them in the game. Every goal Philly scored was from a good quality chance or a snipe by a skilled shooter.

I don't get this obvious trend of Dubnyk being on his knees ALL the f$&@! Time. That has to have something to do with coaching in my mind. Chabot should be shown the door with Lowe, Bucky & Smith. You can't stop high shots from your knees. Huff said. What a sad team we have. Mac T can't fix it all at once and Eakins should be given at least a full season so I give them a pass on the firing parade that should take place. Come on Katz, get off your throne and do SOMETHING!!

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#99 Soccer Steve
November 09 2013, 05:11PM
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Ed in Edmoton wrote:

Thinking about the Smid move of yesterday, I'm thinking perhaps MAcT has already put this season in the history books and is long to next year. Trading a roster player for 2 prospects is hard to interpret any other way.

I'm also wondering is Katz might be pissed that he's paying Grebeshkov 1.5 M to play in the AHL and told MacT he doesn't have a blank check and needs to save some cash.

You spelled edmonton wrong

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#100 DSF
November 09 2013, 05:16PM
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How bad are the Oilers?

In past seasons, the playoff cutoff was 94-95 points.

This season, with the absolute dominance by the WC (except the Oilers), it'll take a lot more to get in the post season.

The final wild card spot is currently held by the Minnesota Wild.

They are on pace for 106 points.

The Oilers are on pace for 45 points.

Missing the playoffs by 61 points (should current trends continue) should be a firing offence from the top of the corporate ladder all the way to the bottom.

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