GDB 28.0: HURDLING

Lowetide
December 01 2013 08:24AM

The Edmonton Oilers have been tightening their defensive play under coach Dallas Eakins and it does appear to be working. In the club's last 10 games, the goals-against average for DD and Bryz is 2.52 compared to 3.24 for the entire season. The goaltending has improved, but what about the defense? Is it getting better? How can we tell?

BOXCARS

In the last 10 games, the Oilers blue has posted the following boxcar numbers:

  1. Phil Larsen (IR) 5, 0-4-4 -4
  2. Justin Schultz 5, 2-1-3 +3
  3. Corey Potter 6, 0-2-2 -2
  4. Nick Schultz 10, 0-2-2 -1
  5. Denis Grebeshkov 2, 0-1-1 +1
  6. Jeff Petry 10, 0-1-1 +3
  7. Anton Belov 10, 0-1-1 -2
  8. Taylor Fedun 2, 0-0-0 -2
  9. Andrew Ference 10, 0-1-1 -1

It's an interesting look back, we can kind of see the point where  Larsen went on IR and Fedun was sent down, and then the 5 games Schultz the younger has been back has coincided with an uptick in results (funny, that) for the team.

CORSI FOR % (5x5)

In the last 5 games, it's fun to see the list of defensemen who have been on the ice for good things:

  1. Anton Belov 78-62 55.7%
  2. Justin Schultz 66-57 53.6%
  3. Denis Grebeshkov 23-20 53.4%
  4. Jeff Petry 66-58 53.2%
  5. Nick Schultz 60-67 47.2%
  6. Andrew Ference 57-65 46.7%
  7. Corey Potter 30-44 40.5%

This is from Extra skater, and I'm listing Corsi For-Corsi against and the percentage and this is all 5x5. Now, it's important to note that we're not taking into account things like zone starts and toughness of opposition, this is straight Corsi at 5x5 over the last 5 games.

That said, it's fascinating to see four defensemen above 50% over that time (!!!!) and the 5-6 guys are not far from 50% (with only Corey Potter fading badly). We don't know if Schultz's return or Grebeshkov's callup are big reasons for the improved shot differential, we only know that in the last 5 games this group has been part of some good things.

And we also know the goals against in the last 10 games has been going down, and part of that is due to the puck being in the other end more often.

These are all nice signs for the club, and barring injury they should be able to repeat it (depending on quality of opposition, etc) and more wins should come as a result.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Yakupov-Gagner-Hemsky
Smyth-Gordon-Perron
Jones-Arcobello-Joensuu

Ference-Petry
Grebeshkov-J.Schultz
Belov-N.Schultz

Dubnyk

That's my guess, but I don't know why you'd change anything aside from the goaltender. That 4th line has been doing some nice things, and I'm betting the Nuge line will find a way to rock and roll in Texas later today. The young Russian likes the big stage, and everything's big in Texas, maybe he'll rip three rockets into the Dallas night.

QUICK HITS

  • According to nhl.com, the Oilers have 4 rookies this season: Mark Arcobello, Taylor Fedun, Luke Gazdic and Tyler Pitlick. Anton Belov doesn't qualify.
  • The Oilers leading scorer is Jordan Eberle (23 points) who is tied for 28th in league points. Last year, Taylor Hall finished 9th, but this year he and David Perron are tied at 61st overall.
  • Craig MacTavish was in Oklahoma City last night, raving about Mark Arcobello in an interview with brilliant play-by-play man Jim Byers.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

WHO CARES? It's almost time for hurdles!!!!! Okay, fine.

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Oilers play the system and find their range on the powerplay, scoring twice with the man advantage in a 3-2 victory over the Stars.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Ryan Smyth leaves it all out on the ice.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Shawn Horcoff channels himself as a rookie and sends a cross-ice pass that Yakupov shoots through the net for the winner.

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#51 Geoff
December 01 2013, 11:17AM
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That GIF is awesome lol.

Now to read the article.

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#52 Geoff
December 01 2013, 11:23AM
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Well the oilers are improving overall which is nice.

But I have no idea why you would change the goalies either. Best idea woulda been to start dubnyk last game cause it was a back to back.

Oh well /shrug.

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#53 The Soup Fascist
December 01 2013, 11:23AM
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@Dockstaff

Fair enough. I don't disagree. I am fine with the Oilers signing him.

Just don't play him like a first pairing Dman or be disappointed when he can't play that role.

They overpaid in terms of $ and term. Maybe the Oil had to. Clearly the Bruins did not. Hence the gap between two teams gets wider.

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#54 Walter Sobchak
December 01 2013, 11:25AM
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LT

Good read first.

Having said that, you are all about sample size, how much weight do you honestly put into the "numbers" during this last ten game set?

Reason being, is while I think we can agree that there have been some nice things happening on the ice and on "paper" by the eye they are having absolute melt downs in the defensive zone.

With the schedule being in the Oilers favour the last ten games or so, I'm not remotely convinced the Oilers numbers are as good as some think they are?

I think the rest of December & January are going to be the sample we need to find were the Oilers game is actually at.

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#55 Dockstaff
December 01 2013, 11:30AM
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@Ryan2

I agree with you Ryan2, except for the price of leadership. I think we paid a fair price and I think Ference is trying to deliver, I don't think enough of our current players are soldiering up.

We also need better puck moving Dmen

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#56 The Soup Fascist
December 01 2013, 11:40AM
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The hurdler is Michelle Jenneke from Australia. I was very intrigued until I realized she is younger than either of my kids.

Now officially relegated into dirty old man territory. Sigh.

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#57 michael
December 01 2013, 11:42AM
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GDP. Oilers lose 3-2 in a SO. Dallas always dominates us at home in Big D. What is there record against us at home. Like 100-4. The PP was brutal last game. Frustrating.

Who is picking Jacksonville today againt Cleveland? I did. Go big. Denver in KC today. Power football.

Alabama loses on the last play of the game against Auburn. Who called that? Never mind the 99 yard McCarron pass for a TD. Yesterdays College games were unreal.

BTW Who does not like it when Vancouver loses to the Rangers?

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#58 Walter Sobchak
December 01 2013, 11:43AM
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Where the hell has DSF been? I'm kindling of missing his brand of reasoning lately.

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#59 Rod from Viking
December 01 2013, 11:47AM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Where the hell has DSF been? I'm kindling of missing his brand of reasoning lately.

He will be back as soon as the Canuck's kick someones butt.

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#60 michael
December 01 2013, 12:02PM
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The Nucks decided to take out their misery on the the hapless Canes. 2-0 first period for the Nucks. See this one ending badly for the Canes. Where the heck is Jordan Stahl? He has been near invisible. 8 points for 6 million a year? You think we have defensive issues?

Come on DSF time to spew a little of your own brand of special.

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#61 Spydyr
December 01 2013, 12:11PM
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The Oilers improvement on defence the last ten games may have to do with the quality of competition they have faced.More so then any improvement themselves.

Many Oilers fans forget there are two teams on the ice every game.

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#62 Spydyr
December 01 2013, 12:12PM
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OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Horcoff misses a one-times in the slot.Dubnyk lets in a soft goal.Same old , same old.

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#63 6 ring circus
December 01 2013, 12:20PM
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I would've loved to have the Oiler's succeed this year and make the playoff's,the schedule does not get any easier and I cannot see the Oilers finishing any higher than 25th, so we are in for another lottery pick,let's wait and see what happens at the end of the year, if Katz step's up and fire's some dead weight around the Oiler's office's or if we continue to get fed a bunch of BS about how the team is improving and going in the right direction.The Oiler's have increased in value by 200 million since Katz bought the team,they are getting a new arena and have been one of the worst run sports franchises these last 8 years!!! and it's all because they have a loyal and dedicated fan base,isn't it time that the fan base get rewarded with a winning team or is that to much to ask?

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#64 Spydyr
December 01 2013, 12:32PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

I would've loved to have the Oiler's succeed this year and make the playoff's,the schedule does not get any easier and I cannot see the Oilers finishing any higher than 25th, so we are in for another lottery pick,let's wait and see what happens at the end of the year, if Katz step's up and fire's some dead weight around the Oiler's office's or if we continue to get fed a bunch of BS about how the team is improving and going in the right direction.The Oiler's have increased in value by 200 million since Katz bought the team,they are getting a new arena and have been one of the worst run sports franchises these last 8 years!!! and it's all because they have a loyal and dedicated fan base,isn't it time that the fan base get rewarded with a winning team or is that to much to ask?

For a guy who "swims with the fishes" you make some very good points.

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#65 VK63
December 01 2013, 12:47PM
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Ooooooooo I love hurdles. da da

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#66 6 ring circus
December 01 2013, 01:01PM
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Spydyr wrote:

For a guy who "swims with the fishes" you make some very good points.

Thanks!!! I often wonder what it would be like if the Oiler's had an owner like Rocky Wirtz,Jeremy Jacobs or Mike Llitch, they have set the bar for having winning teams and run them like a business.It is very apparent that Katz on the other hand is more concerned about hiring and hanging out with the old boy's on the bus Oiler's than winning !!!

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#67 MessyEH!
December 01 2013, 01:16PM
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Buzz gets third start in a row.

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#68 YFC Prez
December 01 2013, 01:35PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

Buzz gets third start in a row.

And the reasoning behind this...... Eakins wants to work on his CONDITIONING! For the love of Michelle Jenneke Eakins needs to start making decisions based on other factors than CONDITIONING.

Starting Dubnyk tonight would be the right move. He is a very strange coach.

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#69 Retsinnab5
December 01 2013, 01:36PM
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Bryz gets the start...

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#70 David S
December 01 2013, 01:46PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Thanks!!! I often wonder what it would be like if the Oiler's had an owner like Rocky Wirtz,Jeremy Jacobs or Mike Llitch, they have set the bar for having winning teams and run them like a business.It is very apparent that Katz on the other hand is more concerned about hiring and hanging out with the old boy's on the bus Oiler's than winning !!!

Buys team for $200M.

Gets new $650M arena.

Team doubles in value.

If that isn't running a team like a business I don't know what is.

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#71 David S
December 01 2013, 01:53PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

And the reasoning behind this...... Eakins wants to work on his CONDITIONING! For the love of Michelle Jenneke Eakins needs to start making decisions based on other factors than CONDITIONING.

Starting Dubnyk tonight would be the right move. He is a very strange coach.

[EDIT] - Don't post hungover kids.

Starting Bryz kind of makes sense. He needs some game time to get back up to speed and let's face it, maybe one of the four he let in on Friday was stoppable. The whole team just played flat out crap.

In his first full game it was patently obvious he was far better technically than Dubnyk. If I were Eakins I'd need to see what he's got. Like it or not you can't do that in practice.

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#72 Serious Gord
December 01 2013, 01:58PM
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David S wrote:

Buys team for $200M.

Gets new $650M arena.

Team doubles in value.

If that isn't running a team like a business I don't know what is.

Financial success and jock-sniff-driven failure ARE often mutually exclusive. For proof Just go visit the tombstones of Harold Ballard and Phillip Wrigley (mind the spit).

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#73 The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33
December 01 2013, 01:59PM
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David S wrote:

Buys team for $200M.

Gets new $650M arena.

Team doubles in value.

If that isn't running a team like a business I don't know what is.

That has to be some kind of record for contradicting oneself. Big Pussy did it within 3 posts: post 63 and 66.

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#74 nick
December 01 2013, 02:09PM
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Lowtide, you and your numbers are hilarious. Have you noticed who the Oilers have played the last 10 games? Not very tough competition except for 3 games, two against Chicago and one against San Jose which they lost. They have played their easiest part of the schedule and they suck. They are not getting better defensively it is an illusion, just wait till they play some tough teams. You have clearly drank the Eakins Koolaide

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#75 Serious Gord
December 01 2013, 02:25PM
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Re GDP:

Hard to ever pick the oilers over the stars. Dallas 4-2

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#76 Woogi63
December 01 2013, 02:30PM
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Have we seen Eakin "out coach" HIS counterpart yet this?

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#77 Arius Mumin
December 01 2013, 02:40PM
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Old Man wrote:

"The Farmer", Stop complaining about your Oiler players and start CHEERING for them. The belly aching is getting old. You would be the first to jump back on the Ference bandwagon the second the Oilers improve and he's the mentor/backbone. Can't have it both ways. GO OILERS!!!

Stop complaining and start CHEERING?

The belly only hurts because we keep feeding ourselves this crap.

This team has sucked for years, yet the only times I have heard booing at Rexall has been for the referees and at the end of a few games. There have been stretches of games with horrible play at home and losing streaks no one wants to remember-but no chants or boos players efforts, the fans tolerate this crap so they should learn to enjoy it.

Cheering and comlaining go hand in hand. Maybe your tier of fan only cheers when things are going good, then, sits and intakes whatever is given during the bad times, hoping that one day things can get better so you can cheer again.

The fans should complain and they should boo and much as possible the play and efforts the players put out, the more the do the more the players and staff will realize that they're not dealing with mindless sheep.

The players and staff keep trying to write cheques to fans that their a$$es cant cash. It time to start speaking about this fraud, and it should go to the players too, not only the staff.

For all we know, Macts and Lowe's hands could be tied on what they can do with trades and signings due to the market they are in. But there is no excuse for these players game in game out to come with poor efforts and expect us to be OK with it.

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#78 Spydyr
December 01 2013, 02:56PM
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David S wrote:

[EDIT] - Don't post hungover kids.

Starting Bryz kind of makes sense. He needs some game time to get back up to speed and let's face it, maybe one of the four he let in on Friday was stoppable. The whole team just played flat out crap.

In his first full game it was patently obvious he was far better technically than Dubnyk. If I were Eakins I'd need to see what he's got. Like it or not you can't do that in practice.

Call me a dreamer but I'm hoping they are sitting Dubnyk because he is getting traded along with someone else for a upgrade in net.

Now that would be bold.

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#79 bwar
December 01 2013, 03:28PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Call me a dreamer but I'm hoping they are sitting Dubnyk because he is getting traded along with someone else for a upgrade in net.

Now that would be bold.

Since you brought it up... TRADE EVERYONE!

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#80 Oilerz4life
December 01 2013, 03:33PM
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Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture?

Grebeshkov-J.Shultz

Belov-N.Shultz

Fudun could probably do better than N.Shultz. Who knows, Nurse could probably do better than Grebeshkov. Trade both Garbagekov and N.Shultz for an upgrade and bring up Fedun. Something, anything, that defensive line-up is a total siv.

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#81 camdog
December 01 2013, 03:35PM
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No Boyd Gordon shoulder injury, hopefully he's back for the next game.

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#82 Dog Train
December 01 2013, 03:36PM
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I still can't stand Dallas. Bryzgalov will bounce back and Arcobello will make the most of his likely bump up the lineup with Gordon out. Oilers find a way to win 3-2.

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#83 Serious Gord
December 01 2013, 03:40PM
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Woogi63 wrote:

Have we seen Eakin "out coach" HIS counterpart yet this?

That's a question I ask myself after every game. So far I have yet to see an instance where Eakins has "won" but I am not a very good judge - perhaps someone who posts on this is and can chime in.

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#84 6 ring circus
December 01 2013, 03:47PM
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David S wrote:

Buys team for $200M.

Gets new $650M arena.

Team doubles in value.

If that isn't running a team like a business I don't know what is.

In both my post's I stated that the Oiler's should reward the loyal and dedicated fan base by putting a wining team on the ice,it is a direct result of having the fans going to games and supporting the team these last 8 years, even though they have been the worst team in the NHL that the franchise has increased in value as a direct result of the fan support,If the Oiler's were in any other market south of the Canadian border, they would have been gone, just like Atlanta.And do you think that Edmonton city council would've voted for a new arena if they played in a half empty building? The arena deal alone increased the Oiler's value by 200 million,If the Oilers did not have the support of the fans, how long do you think before Katz would start threatening to move the team? He threatened that when he wasn't getting his way with the arena deal,the Oiler's are a poorly run organization, the on ice product speaks for itself, the only reason this team has had any success off the ice ,is a direct result of the fans, once they stop supporting the team, watch how quickly the whining begins that they are losing money, then let's see how quickly Katz changes his mind on how he runs his business!!!

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#85 Spydyr
December 01 2013, 03:47PM
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bwar wrote:

Since you brought it up... TRADE EVERYONE!

Sorry can't agree with you.Just imagine how bad "the braintrust" would screw that up.They had a hard enough time tanking and taking the conciseness first overall picks.

The pro scouting is the worst in the NHL "the braintrust" has a record the last eight years that states the same.

There is no way they could build a entirely new team.

“Problems cannot be solved with the same mind set that created them.”

― Albert Einstein

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#86 cain
December 01 2013, 03:56PM
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@Arius Mumin

Preach it Brother...should we accept weak excuses for lack of effort one in every three games?

No one whines when the effort is there and we get beat by a better team.But if the Oilers don't bother showing up, they better expect hearing about it from the fans.And the fans should be ready to boo them off the ice until the effort improves.

Stop complaining????? You clearly are paying for tickets.

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#87 Cynic
December 01 2013, 04:05PM
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I'll give that hurdler credit for knowing the sole reason anybody watches female athletics.

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#88 Ari Gold
December 01 2013, 04:10PM
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Who's the girl?? Seriously.

Gordo isn't playing. Uh oh..... Now we find out how valuable he is. I have a feeling, he's extremely valuable.

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#89 6 ring circus
December 01 2013, 04:11PM
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The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33 wrote:

That has to be some kind of record for contradicting oneself. Big Pussy did it within 3 posts: post 63 and 66.

Tell me what's the difference between Peter Pocklinton and Daryl Katz? most of Pocklinton's off ice business were a failure and resulted in him eventually losing the Oiler's, the Oiler's under Pocklinton's ownership ended up becoming a dynasty and one of the most successful sports teams in the 80's and early 90's, Katz on the other hand, has a very successful business off the ice,under his ownership of the Oiler's on the ice have been a complete failure, the team has missed the playoff's 8 years and counting,Katz still has the support of the fans now and is still making money,Pocklinton lost the support of the fans,stopped making money and eventually lost the team,

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#90 YFC Prez
December 01 2013, 04:29PM
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@Spydyr

“Problems cannot be solved with the same mind set that created them.”

QFT

Oilers have a lot of assets. If only we could get a new competent experienced prez to set up his own hockey operations with the oilers current assets and use them properly to improve the club. This draft and hope approach the current brass takes isn't working.

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#91 Johnnydapunk
December 01 2013, 04:31PM
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With Eakins going back to The Bryz in this game despite being pulled in the last, I wonder if that is a sign that Eakins sees him as the number 1 goalie as it seems that before when Dubnyk or LaBarbara had a shocker and got the hook, he would switch goalies for the next game and not put in the one that got pulled. Or am I looking too much into that and Eakins maybe based his decision on the past records of both? Curious if anyone has any ideas or speculation?

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#92 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 01 2013, 04:34PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

I'd be willing to watch another season in the basement if it was the straw that broke the camels back. ( the camel being Lowes position with the oilers ). Sadly I don't think he is ever going to be fired.

The oilers record so far hasn't garnered any significant change why would one more season of loosing. I'm only cheering for wins.

I honestly feel Lowe figures he'll be here a lot pucking longer than Taylor Hall, or any other of these other first overalls will. We're doomed to developmental hockey at NHL prices for the foreseeable future.

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#93 Arius Mumin
December 01 2013, 04:35PM
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Hall can't even be a POWER forward on a POWERplay. If Katz's kid wanted to draft Yakupov, then Katz must be Hall's daddy.

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#94 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 01 2013, 04:51PM
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Woogi63 wrote:

Have we seen Eakin "out coach" HIS counterpart yet this?

That win over Barry Trotz still has me scratching my head.

Bryzgoalie keepin us in there, so far.

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#95 Alsker
December 01 2013, 05:08PM
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Arco with more F/O wins than the other 3 combined...how did we sit him for so long? Another good Bryz performance so far.

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#96 Alsker
December 01 2013, 05:24PM
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Same old Grebs....epic!!

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#97 Hockey Problems
December 01 2013, 05:32PM
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Garbagekov.

Just as advertised.

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#98 Oilerz4life
December 01 2013, 05:33PM
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Alsker wrote:

Same old Grebs....epic!!

Garbagekov sucks! Should be on waivers. Fedun could do better. Put Mac-T on waivers.

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#99 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
December 01 2013, 05:36PM
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Classic Oilers. Please don't be injured Bryz...

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#100 TonyT
December 01 2013, 05:39PM
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Oilers with a decent effort tonight, however I really could do without them trying to pass the puck into the net. Nights like these have me wondering how much longer we'll have to wait for bold. We've watched this experiment for years without results and I am firmly of the belief that at least one of the offensive guys has to go to bring in a need. The question is while we don't want to lose a trade, will these guys ever play well enough as a team to bring in fair value? And if they do turn it around, will the team prove successful enough where maybe a trade isn't necessary? Is bold ever coming? If it's still in the cards, can MacT let us know when to start believing again?

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