David Perron a Scoring Chance Machine vs. Boston

Jonathan Willis
December 12 2013 10:51PM

 

Despite the 4-2 loss, the Edmonton Oilers had an okay game against Boston, with "okay" here meaning a combination of dreadful for one period and excellent for two. David Perron, who scored both of Edmonton's goals, was a little north of that mark.

Team Scoring Chances

Edmonton Oilers SC+ SC- SC%
Even Strength 15 12 55.6%
Power Play 2 1 66.7%
Short Handed 0 2 0.0%
Total 17 15 53.1%

The Oilers won the scoring chances battle by a narrow amount overall after losing it in the first period. Some of that is score effects - teams with leads get conservative, as the Bruins did, and that helps the team trailing to take an edge.

The Forwards

Player SC+ SC- SC%
Mark Arcobello 1 0 100.0%
Jordan Eberle 9 3 75.0%
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 12 5 70.6%
David Perron 11 5 68.8%
Ales Hemsky 2 2 50.0%
Nail Yakupov 3 4 42.9%
Taylor Hall 2 3 40.0%
Sam Gagner 3 5 37.5%
Jesse Joensuu 1 2 33.3%
Ryan Jones 1 2 33.3%
Luke Gazdic 0 2 0.0%
Anton Lander 0 3 0.0%

There is an interesting range of performance here.

Obviously, Perron's line was the engine that drove the Oilers tonight; Edmonton only managed 15 even-strength chances and more than two-thirds of those came with Perron and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins on the ice. 

The third and fourth lines weren't able to contribute much to the chances battle, but the alarm here is Taylor Hall. He's capable of being the best player on the team and the Oilers aren't going to win many games where he's an indifferent presence. 

The Defence

Player SC+ SC- SC%
Anton Belov 6 2 75.0%
Jeff Petry 6 4 60.0%
Philip Larsen 6 5 54.5%
Andrew Ference 6 6 50.0%
Justin Schultz 3 3 50.0%
Nick Schultz 3 4 42.9%

There's not much to see here.

Jeff Petry and Anton Belov, as the third pair, had the lightest match-ups on the night and did pretty well with them. The top-four more or less broke even, with the Schultz's having the most trouble by eye during five-on-five play.

No real surprises anywhere on this list, given how the lines played by eye; I wouldn't have guessed that Joensuu was on the ice for so few dangerous shots (the only one five-on-five would have been that Gagner rebound he put just wide) because he looked pretty good but sometimes strong play doesn't lead to chances in a period as short as a single hockey game. 

That Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle and Perron line has looked pretty good for a while now but the Oilers need to figure out a way to get everyone else going. 

Recently by Jonathan Willis

74b7cedc5d8bfbe88cf071309e98d2c3
Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
Avatar
#1 FireKLowe
December 12 2013, 10:53PM
Trash it!
3
trashes
Cheers
67
cheers

How about Dubnyk ... a goal letting-in machine?

Avatar
#2 geno
December 12 2013, 10:55PM
Trash it!
3
trashes
Cheers
14
cheers

it's a good thing some people suggested benching Eberle. Punish the team for a mistake made by one of the top 3Fs of the nights

Avatar
#3 RexHolez
December 12 2013, 10:56PM
Trash it!
5
trashes
Cheers
31
cheers

Yet another game of the forwards playing good enough to win while the D and goaltending lets us down.

Switch goalies with every team we play and the Oilers make the playoffs

Avatar
#4 Ron Burgundy
December 12 2013, 11:10PM
Trash it!
5
trashes
Cheers
29
cheers
RexHolez wrote:

Yet another game of the forwards playing good enough to win while the D and goaltending lets us down.

Switch goalies with every team we play and the Oilers make the playoffs

Yup. Dubnyk cost us another one. Might be time for a bryz/labarbera tandem

Avatar
#5 Spoils
December 12 2013, 11:13PM
Trash it!
2
trashes
Cheers
47
cheers

Deja-vu anyone?

-giveaway on PP leads to shorty -Dubnyk lets in a super soft goal

Oilers lose game they actually should have won.

Avatar
#6 Rinkrat Brown
December 12 2013, 11:15PM
Trash it!
22
trashes
Cheers
10
cheers

@FireKLowe

Incomprehensible Coaching 101: Larson out on the game's most critical power play after he has ALREADY handed the Bruins a shorthanded softie. And what does he create? His first handling of the puck is a muffed pass that hands essential possession of the puck to the Bruins just as the PP looks like it's getting a bit of traction.

This team has little defensive structure, can't begin to clear their own zone if under any pressure whatsoever, and has a power play that is in RUIN after last year's success. "We can't trade the coach!" What nonsense... he should never have been hired when proven men were available. And having been allowed to institute a season-crashing system that proved unworkable after the first 20 games, should have been promptly replaced. Dallas is a disacter pure and simple. The WORST aspect of this team BY FAR is its failure to adjust to the opposition IN GAME.

...And don't point out the 2nd and 3rd period improvements: The slighter, younger legs of out guys simply outskated those big lugs, who had played 24 hours earlier.

Avatar
#7 RexHolez
December 12 2013, 11:24PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
29
cheers

@Rinkrat Brown

Once the forwards have the puck they can play with anyone. The problem is we can't get them the puck! And terrible goaltending is always the nail in the coffin

Avatar
#8 Quicksilver ballet
December 12 2013, 11:25PM
Trash it!
5
trashes
Cheers
24
cheers

A third of the way through the season and the Oilers player of the year is in the bag already.

Oilers should try his pi$$ n vinegar style of play down the middle.

Avatar
#9 Walter Sobchak
December 12 2013, 11:34PM
Trash it!
2
trashes
Cheers
43
cheers

-Perron is the light in an otherwise bleak year.

- I'm starting to actually feel sorry for Gagner, boy has his game gone south.

-Dubnyk is bad.....real bad.

-Eakins having Larsen out there in the end was almost criminal.

-Why is Yakupov standing in the high slot on the PP completely covered? The coaching staff has video no? Here kid, you need to stand here?

-Good for Gazdic, a beautiful tilt and took off Lucic for an extended period of time, job well done!

Avatar
#10 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
December 12 2013, 11:36PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
46
cheers
Quicksilver ballet wrote:

A third of the way through the season and the Oilers player of the year is in the bag already.

Oilers should try his pi$$ n vinegar style of play down the middle.

Bonus is....Perron serves as the poster boy for what aggressiveness, compete and edge looks like. All the kids now get viewed by way of comparison...and the soft play becomes less acceptable.

Avatar
#11 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
December 12 2013, 11:40PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
34
cheers
Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Bonus is....Perron serves as the poster boy for what aggressiveness, compete and edge looks like. All the kids now get viewed by way of comparison...and the soft play becomes less acceptable.

Same could be said for Arco and Boyd Gordon....although to a lesser degree.

Edit: God bless MacT

Avatar
#12 Geoff
December 12 2013, 11:44PM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
24
cheers

During the 3rd is the best hockey I've seen the Oilers play this year in my opinion.

Avatar
#13 Johnnydapunk
December 12 2013, 11:48PM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
31
cheers
Ron Burgundy wrote:

Yup. Dubnyk cost us another one. Might be time for a bryz/labarbera tandem

I wouldn't be disappointed with even a Bryz/ Bachman combo if we are looking at Dubnyk free options.

Avatar
#14 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
December 12 2013, 11:52PM
Trash it!
5
trashes
Cheers
10
cheers

Good article JW. Seemingly simple yet very interesting numbers. You're one of the few Advanced Stats guys on this site that doesn't attempt to draw unsupported conclusions as a result of a limited understanding of statistics. Keep up the good work.

Avatar
#15 RexHoles
December 12 2013, 11:52PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
14
cheers
Johnnydapunk wrote:

I wouldn't be disappointed with even a Bryz/ Bachman combo if we are looking at Dubnyk free options.

Who was that college goalie that got to practice with the bruins and got a Lucic stick?? Is he available??

Avatar
#16 risto siltanen's slapshot
December 13 2013, 12:02AM
Trash it!
8
trashes
Cheers
3
cheers

as a cubs fan I believe in curses...that being said I hope the oilers make the playoffs before the cubs win a world series. the burke curse is alive and well since lowe gave all the picks for penner.now that we have all of our high picked talent maybe we can trde them for a playoff berth .if not we'll keep floundering and we can watch a real hockey man lead those awful flames to the playoffs or at least more victories than the oil.peca, brodziak,marchant,grier, moreau, pisani,stortini....all would sound good right now over 3 or 4 of our floaters. just hit somebody please cuz our powerplay is putting me to sleep.can anyone break a tissue paper shooter tutor from the point?

Avatar
#17 **
December 13 2013, 12:37AM
Trash it!
14
trashes
Cheers
8
cheers

Eakins should make it a rule never to put Yak, Hall and Gags together again. Ever.

Avatar
#18 Cowbell_Feva
December 13 2013, 12:52AM
Trash it!
7
trashes
Cheers
24
cheers

I really have a hard time with people bashing the new coach. For far too long the players have held little to no accountability with how THEY are performing on the ice.

Was it Eakins fault Dubey is not a NHL starter? No, but Labarbara is even worse. Blame management, namely KLowe.

Is it Eakins fault that his top scorer doesn't know how to take the open man on the PP 2 on 1, even though Bergeron literally stopped and allowed him time to get a stick on Marchard? No, but Eberle is their best scorer so he has to play him in a tight game late in the 3rd.

I might not agree with having Larsen on the PP because he clearly was fighting the puck all night. Sure. But lets face it. The Oilers defensive corps is the worst in the league. Management traded one of their so called "top 2" to Calgary and added zero.

You can't paint a picasso with dog-sh*t. To think Eakins is the issue is missing the more obvious, glaring holes. Bad goaltending and worse defensemen= bad hockey team. Toe Blake, Scotty Bowman and Pat Burns combined wouldn't have this team much more than a few points higher than it currently stands.

Avatar
#19 Drowning in Oil
December 13 2013, 01:32AM
Trash it!
10
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

It really doesn't matter how bad Eakins is or becomes because he is staying. Mac T has the perfect excuse to keep his hiring..... Stability. So even if Eakins ends up being a horrible coach and he hasn't done much to prove he is great, we are stuck with him for at least 2 to 3 more years. Mac T will always use the typical excuses to keep his hiring in place. Just more of the same B.S. from the (we were here for the Stanley Cups but weren't really vital) group running this team!!

Avatar
#20 bwar
December 13 2013, 02:48AM
Trash it!
5
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

The top line was great tonight. Rest of the team not so much. Really need to find a second line combination that can effect games positively and consistently. I personally would like to see something along the lines of Gagner-Arcobello-Hemsky/Hall. I really feel strongly that Gagner needs to move to the wing and once Gordon can come back I really hope we see him shifted over for a few games.

Avatar
#21 Rheal1
December 13 2013, 04:55AM
Trash it!
12
trashes
Cheers
5
cheers

Haven't seen the game last night. Watching Habs game here in Ontario. I am believing more & more that Galchenyuk is a better and more complete player than Yakupov. Compare their respective stats. Perron seems to be that "bold move" that I keep hearing about; looks more like a lucky move to me!!! A few things need change by trade deadline if this team hope to regain any dignity; good riddance to DD; if I'm MacT I get on the phone soon and enquire about Budaj. After that, package Gagner with a few others for a top Dman. A proven and top pairing star defenceman. Someone with a spine and balls need to tell Katz to shut the hell up and stay at home for the next draft. Hello? Lowe? Purge yourself, pal. Look at Burke, he's gonna laugh at you very soon...

Avatar
#22 Wintoon
December 13 2013, 06:01AM
Trash it!
4
trashes
Cheers
26
cheers

MacT has to find a 2C or a legitimate 1C and bump RNH down to 2C. The contribution, or rather the lack thereof from Gagner is hurting this team immensely. Those that say Gagner can play wing are kidding themselves. He is no good on the boards, can't compete in the corners, isn't a fast enough skater and is just generally mentally challenged from a defensive perspective. Until MacT comes up with the needed Centre, this team will struugle to achieve respectability.

Avatar
#23 Oiler Al
December 13 2013, 06:05AM
Trash it!
7
trashes
Cheers
14
cheers

Get Dubnyk as far away as possible from this team... this is not a starting NHL goalie period. Doubt if many NHL teams would have him as a back up.

Could have won this game if Hall would have show'd up for the game. This guy decides when and where he wants to play.

How many more times can one bash Gagner.. total disaster!!!!!! send him packing with Dubnyuk.

A veteran like Hemsky hasn't made a difference in a game since 2006.

Gagner and Hall on the ice for all 4 Boston goals.

Defense ugly as usual.

Avatar
#24 michael
December 13 2013, 06:16AM
Trash it!
5
trashes
Cheers
4
cheers

Gagner on pace for 45 points. Sae as always. You want more? Gagner is a third line center. He is not playing well enough to be the second line center. No matter who he is teamed up with on a line. His play is kinda like the Belanger vortex of futility. Anyone near him gets sucked in and is done.

DD. He has/was solid before that goal. Then the old DD arrived and in a game where you might get 2-3 goals yourself giving up a freebie is not in your teams best interest.

The cycle goal is what the Oilers cannot stop. At all. Their lack of a dman on each pairing with size and physicality kills them. Petry is big. Sure. Yet he is as soft as Charmin.

The SH goal. Again. Eberle looked gassed coing back and essentially glided the last 10 ft or so. MacT .Its the last 5% that is difference between winning and losing in the NHL> EBS and his teamamtes should watch that goal over and over so that quote can sink in.

Open net goal. Why on Earth does not Eakins pull the goalie right off the bat on the PP. Larsen at the blueline is a ess when he is forced to handle the puck under pressue.

Perron. Whats right with this team.

Would Galchenyuk be more desirable at center than Sam Rheinhart?

Garth Snow is about to do something. He is under sever pressure. He needs a shooter to compliment Tavares. What will he give up? Vanek has turned into an albatross. The Isles need a major shake up.

Avatar
#25 CMG30
December 13 2013, 06:21AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
19
cheers

Reading these forums it seems that it's always this player or that player who is at fault. Sure individuals make mistakes in games but no player is perfect. On every team there will be a mistakes made. The real problem is that the team as a whole played another 40 minute game and it cost them. Until they correct that, the Oil are not going to take the next step.

Avatar
#26 -30-
December 13 2013, 07:23AM
Trash it!
2
trashes
Cheers
7
cheers

JW, we need a few more categories for the advanced stats ppl

How about:

"Dubnyk" = soft goal

"Gagner" = blind pass to opposition that leads to goal

"Petry" = pass to opposition in front of defenders goal

"Hallsy" = lightspeed rush into opposition zone only to turn over puck to defenders

There are probably many, many more.

-30-

Avatar
#27 Serious Gord
December 13 2013, 07:32AM
Trash it!
9
trashes
Cheers
5
cheers
Cowbell_Feva wrote:

I really have a hard time with people bashing the new coach. For far too long the players have held little to no accountability with how THEY are performing on the ice.

Was it Eakins fault Dubey is not a NHL starter? No, but Labarbara is even worse. Blame management, namely KLowe.

Is it Eakins fault that his top scorer doesn't know how to take the open man on the PP 2 on 1, even though Bergeron literally stopped and allowed him time to get a stick on Marchard? No, but Eberle is their best scorer so he has to play him in a tight game late in the 3rd.

I might not agree with having Larsen on the PP because he clearly was fighting the puck all night. Sure. But lets face it. The Oilers defensive corps is the worst in the league. Management traded one of their so called "top 2" to Calgary and added zero.

You can't paint a picasso with dog-sh*t. To think Eakins is the issue is missing the more obvious, glaring holes. Bad goaltending and worse defensemen= bad hockey team. Toe Blake, Scotty Bowman and Pat Burns combined wouldn't have this team much more than a few points higher than it currently stands.

Baloney.

Eakins can definitely have an impact on how the individual players play.

You talk about lack of account ability? That's Eakins role and it's his fault they haven't been held to account.

You talk about not knowing how to defend? Eakins and company should be able to teach it and make sure it happens.

Just contrast how the plow mules to the city south if EDM are playing compared to the oil and you will see how awful a coaching group the oil has.

Avatar
#28 outdoorzguy
December 13 2013, 08:02AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
12
cheers

Kevin Lowe, as President of Hockey Operations has been very quiet since alienating fans. Has he been muzzled? Does he still work for the Oilers? Does he get paid? Does he live in Vancouver laying at the feet of Katz? Does he do anything for this team?

Avatar
#29 vetinari
December 13 2013, 08:02AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
21
cheers

I am now of the opinion that we need to bring in 2-3 guys from other organizations (like Perron) who know how to compete every shift and who know defence because the "home grown" talent doesn't get it.

Avatar
#30 Hemmercules
December 13 2013, 08:04AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
13
cheers

Those early ultra-soft goals are so deflating. They seem to have a tough time bouncing back immediately from those. Tough way to start games down by 3 on 2 horrible goals.

Perron is a beast. What else can you say?

That Gazdic fight last night had me outta my seat for the first time in a while. Loved seeing a nice clean punch land on Lucic's face.

I don't understand why on the PP they are so desperate to make a cross ice pass from boards to boards sometimes? If you have that much room, step in and put it towards the net if the cross ice pass is your only other option. Those shorthanded goals are almost as bad as the Duby softies.

Avatar
#31 Zamboni Driver
December 13 2013, 08:05AM
Trash it!
8
trashes
Cheers
4
cheers

You know it's gone from bad to worse when two goals qualifies one as a 'scoring machine'.

Avatar
#32 Eulers
December 13 2013, 08:13AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
3
cheers
geno wrote:

it's a good thing some people suggested benching Eberle. Punish the team for a mistake made by one of the top 3Fs of the nights

Have a good look at the short handed goal where Eberle lets up on his man and misses the pass when he should have taken the body. I will certainly concede that his point production has turned around though.

Avatar
#33 Bruce McCurdy
December 13 2013, 08:41AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
8
cheers

Interesting to compare these results to match-ups. Perron-RNH-Eberle were the focus of Claude Julien's preferred match-up, as Chara played over 11 minutes against each, compared to

Avatar
#34 Clarko
December 13 2013, 08:44AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers
RexHolez wrote:

Yet another game of the forwards playing good enough to win while the D and goaltending lets us down.

Switch goalies with every team we play and the Oilers make the playoffs

They may have played well last night, but two goals isn't enough to win you many games...

Avatar
#35 Bruce McCurdy
December 13 2013, 08:45AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

Huh, comments editor doesn't like "

Avatar
#36 Zamboni Driver
December 13 2013, 08:45AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
7
cheers

Fascinating....on Rishaug's hit on TSN1260 this morning, two players called out by name.

Hemsky by Fraser - 'Perron's excellent play has made even more clear how little Hemsky has done in the last three years'. [I'd say eight years, but clearly the Tinman is who we thought he is. and is going to bring absolutely nothing in a trade.]

Gagner by Rishaug - 'Perron was a leader trying get teammates to follow. Gagner did not follow.'

Avatar
#37 Oil Is My Blood
December 13 2013, 08:47AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
8
cheers

I am totally amazed that we have Kelly Buchberger and Steve Smith, who were probably two of the ten toughest Oilers ever, standing and watching their team, game after game, NOT hit anyone!!

MacT, put the organization above Katz, and get rid of those two ASSistants!

Avatar
#38 Bruce McCurdy
December 13 2013, 08:50AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
16
cheers

One last try. It seems like the "less than" symbol obliterates the entire rest of a comment due to the highly advanced comments editor in use here. I will avoid that character completely in my third attempt to make a simple comment. Please feel free to delete the prior two. ---

Perron-RNH-Eberle were the focus of Claude Julien's preferred match-up, as Chara played over 11 minutes against each, compared to LESS THAN 7 vs. Hall and LESS THAN 5 vs. every other Oilers forward. They also saw about 8 minutes of Bergeron, who played around 6 minutes vs. Hall and LESS THAN 5 minutes vs. every other Oilers forward.

Despite matching up against Boston's top defenceman and top defensive forwards -- each among the NHL's elite at their function -- 57-93-14 generated three-quarters of Oilers scoring chances? Good for them! But where were their teammates?

Avatar
#39 Wohin gehst du?
December 13 2013, 08:57AM
Trash it!
2
trashes
Cheers
3
cheers

Does anyone think Dubnyk would clear waivers?

Avatar
#40 Serious Gord
December 13 2013, 09:03AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers
Bruce McCurdy wrote:

One last try. It seems like the "less than" symbol obliterates the entire rest of a comment due to the highly advanced comments editor in use here. I will avoid that character completely in my third attempt to make a simple comment. Please feel free to delete the prior two. ---

Perron-RNH-Eberle were the focus of Claude Julien's preferred match-up, as Chara played over 11 minutes against each, compared to LESS THAN 7 vs. Hall and LESS THAN 5 vs. every other Oilers forward. They also saw about 8 minutes of Bergeron, who played around 6 minutes vs. Hall and LESS THAN 5 minutes vs. every other Oilers forward.

Despite matching up against Boston's top defenceman and top defensive forwards -- each among the NHL's elite at their function -- 57-93-14 generated three-quarters of Oilers scoring chances? Good for them! But where were their teammates?

Interesting post - worth the effort.

My question is: did chara get put up against that line from the outset or did the coach switch his focus once he saw that hall wasn't going last night?

Avatar
#41 Smokey
December 13 2013, 09:04AM
Trash it!
11
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

I'd do Gagner / Yakupov for Reinhardt / Okposo. Let the trashes begin...A hopeful top 2 defender and power forward. Would be the shake up both teams could use. Gives NY a to 6 player and another sniper for Tavaras.

Avatar
#42 Zamboni Driver
December 13 2013, 09:08AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers
Zamboni Driver wrote:

You know it's gone from bad to worse when two goals qualifies one as a 'scoring machine'.

My bad for poor reading skills.

Missed the 'Scoring Chance' part.

Avatar
#43 Rod from Viking
December 13 2013, 09:09AM
Trash it!
3
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers
Wintoon wrote:

MacT has to find a 2C or a legitimate 1C and bump RNH down to 2C. The contribution, or rather the lack thereof from Gagner is hurting this team immensely. Those that say Gagner can play wing are kidding themselves. He is no good on the boards, can't compete in the corners, isn't a fast enough skater and is just generally mentally challenged from a defensive perspective. Until MacT comes up with the needed Centre, this team will struugle to achieve respectability.

There are maybe 3 of teams teams that may have interest in Gagner, Toronto, Nashville and Vancouver, I have no idea what we could get back and I don't care, finish the year with the the centers we have.

Avatar
#44 YAKCITY64
December 13 2013, 09:14AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
13
cheers

Perron is a stud and we need to give Mac T huge props for pulling off that deal and also acquiring boyd gordon. But the essence of the problems with this organization are actually seen when we bring guys like perron and gordon in. Both of them are easily in our top 5 fwds and both of them have been taught and developed by superior coaches and superior organizations and these two players show how terrible the oilers have been in drafting, acquiring and developing similar players. This evidence alone should cost Kblowe his job

Avatar
#45 camdog
December 13 2013, 09:16AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
5
cheers
Eulers wrote:

Have a good look at the short handed goal where Eberle lets up on his man and misses the pass when he should have taken the body. I will certainly concede that his point production has turned around though.

All he had to do is put his stick on is man and that goal doesn't go in. Shultz does this a lot as well. I don't understand playing cute in the d- zone. I also don't understand why they keep getting away with this.

Avatar
#46 Dman
December 13 2013, 09:21AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
8
cheers
Serious Gord wrote:

Baloney.

Eakins can definitely have an impact on how the individual players play.

You talk about lack of account ability? That's Eakins role and it's his fault they haven't been held to account.

You talk about not knowing how to defend? Eakins and company should be able to teach it and make sure it happens.

Just contrast how the plow mules to the city south if EDM are playing compared to the oil and you will see how awful a coaching group the oil has.

So we should fire our 5th coach after 32 games and hire our 6th? Yeah that will obviously fix the probelem.

Avatar
#47 vetinari
December 13 2013, 09:28AM
Trash it!
1
trashes
Cheers
5
cheers
Wohin gehst du? wrote:

Does anyone think Dubnyk would clear waivers?

Don't know, but it's tempting some days to try. There has got to be a team willing to flip a pick for him at the deadline, right?

I do suggest a new nickname for him:

Devin "Digger" Dubnyk

Digger as in, "digs pucks out of his own net"

Avatar
#48 Serious Gord
December 13 2013, 09:32AM
Trash it!
4
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Dman wrote:

So we should fire our 5th coach after 32 games and hire our 6th? Yeah that will obviously fix the probelem.

I'm not saying it is an optimal situation, but a failing/incompetent coach is better off replaced than retained.

Let's understand why there is so much resistance to the idea - it not continuity that is the issue - it loss of face on the part of MacT as Eakins was his out of the blue pick (approved by Lowe).

So the real solution is not to fire Eakins but to do whAt the flames did: bring in a new POHO and let him replace ALL of the management bits that Lowe has hired.

Avatar
#49 David S
December 13 2013, 09:40AM
Trash it!
6
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers
** wrote:

Eakins should make it a rule never to put Yak, Hall and Gags together again. Ever.

Problem is the sync. Gagner isn't quite there yet, Hall is off somehow and Yak needs to take 10% off his shot velocity to be more accurate. If they had some decent defence behind them they'd be more agressive and free flowing (notice that Gagner is hanging back more these days instead of comitting to the play? That's compensating for bad D). In fact, this line could kill it if those guys were running on all cylinders.

Avatar
#50 S cottV
December 13 2013, 09:42AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
3
cheers

Nice to see a game with a Stanley Cup contender involved, in the "big team" profile. While probably not the only way to approach the building to contender status, it is easy to see - why its effective. It's not only big and tough - its reach, commanding space, strong sticks, protecting puck possession, dirty ice entry etc etc..

If you reinstate the 6 guys out of the Bruins line up, go with Rask in net, set up a playoff series between the two teams - with playoff style refereeing and the Oilers would obviously not stand a chance. No big surprise in that, but probably sheds some light on where MacT has to put some focus, if we are ever to see a playoff game, in the not too distant future. I dont think you have to be particularly big to compete, but big enough is a minimum and the Oilers are not there.

There were several Oilers last night that were not comfortable playing "big boy" hockey. Some can adjust and others are just are not suited for it. The stats probably tell some of that story. Not sure because I had company while watching the game and didnt pay particular attention - but - looks like Hall's line, saw the most of Chara from the numbers. If so - another indicator that size matters.

Not to pick on Gagner - but with RNH not being the biggest kind of guy and not going anywhere - it magnifies the need for a larger and talented 2C, to play with the big boys in the league. So - size really does matter in 2C. It also matters in 1 or 2D and 3 or 4D.

Comments are closed for this article.