HELL BENT FOR LEATHER

Lowetide
December 14 2013 05:16PM

Craig MacTavish is way more active in the GM role than his predecessor Steve Tambellini. It might be a matter of being at different points during the rebuild, or maybe it's a new coach or the goalie situation, but Craig MacTavish is hell bent for leather.

STEVE TAMBELLINI OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER 2008

In the fall of 2008 I wrote the following about Steve Tambellini:

  • One of the things that marked Kevin Lowe’s tenure as a GM was a galling tendency to wait forever after the start of the season to address an obvious need. So, with the entire human population (well, the ones who pay attention) and the Lords of Math already aware that the 3line needs a RH center, I think it’s fair to say that Tambellini’s first test will be to show us he’s smarter than his boss and pull the trigger on a deal right now.

Well, that was November 2008, and the first trade of the Tambellini era waited until January of 2009. Goalie Mathieu Garonfell out of favor and was dealt for winger Ryan Stone, minor-league goalie Dany Sabourin and a fourth-round pick that ended up being Tobias Rieder. That's a good return, but really didn't address need for the organization.

The next time Tambellini made a deal it was the deadline and he didn't get Justin Williams but did acquire Patrick O'Sullivan. And so it began.

CRAIG MACTAVISH OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER 2013

Since October 1, MacT has done the following:

  1. Traded Mike Brown to San Jose. This was made possible by the emergence of waiver acquisition Luke Gazdic.
  2. Traded Ladislav Smid and Olivier Roy to Calgary for Laurent Brossoit and Roman Horak.
  3. Signed Ilya Bryzgalov.
  4. Traded Jason LaBarbera to Chicago. Made a mistake, fixed it.

And there are rumors this evening (via HNIC) that Linus Omark is the next man out of town (town being OKC).

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Addressing need. Craig MacTavish needed a goalie solution and found one. It's been years since the Oilers had a GM who moved a finger before Christmas to help the roster. Now, the season is lost so there isn't the same urgency, but it's far more interesting to follow this version of the Oilers than it was in the last decade. MacTavish hasn't been on the job long, but is aggressively trying to improve the situation in Edmonton. 

Defensemen coming in? Center? Big winger? He's working on it. And that's progress.

(Brossoit photo by Rob Ferguson, all rights reserved).

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#1 kahmad92
December 14 2013, 05:22PM
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I know a lot of people don't like MacT as GM, and thats mostly due to the whole "boys on the bus club" thing, but overall, he's done a fairly good job so far.

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#2 bwar
December 14 2013, 05:27PM
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I don't even want to think what our season would look like without David Perron. MacT has been a vast improvement in my books.

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#3 Young Oil
December 14 2013, 05:29PM
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Wasn't Labarbera on waivers earlier this season like Omark was? If MacT can get picks for both of them, even if they are 7th rounders, that is quite impressive.

At this rate, maybe we'll own all 30 picks in the 7th round of the 2016 draft!

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#4 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 14 2013, 05:30PM
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I'd be delighted for Omark if he can find some NHL work. I think we'll see another 50 NHL games from him like 10-11.

Interesting that the "shed contracts" portion of the trade season is happening so soon. Nice to see MacT recognize another problem (the bloated 50 man) and try to fix it.

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#5 kgo
December 14 2013, 05:32PM
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Was born in 85.

Too young to remember Gretz or Mess.

First memory was Vincent Damphousse scoring 4 goals in Dec 91,

It's been a tough 22 years.

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#6 **
December 14 2013, 05:47PM
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kahmad92 wrote:

I know a lot of people don't like MacT as GM, and thats mostly due to the whole "boys on the bus club" thing, but overall, he's done a fairly good job so far.

I'd rather have a guy make 4 good moves and 4 bad moves than a guy who waits foerver to make just one move and it turns out to be useless. I still believe in Mac T, and I still believe in Eakins, but there is no denying there are some deeply rooted issues in the Oilers organization that go beyond the on ice product. And I fault Lowe and Katz for that (ditto for Smith and Buchberger).

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#7 bazmagoo
December 14 2013, 05:49PM
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@kahmad92

Agreed. Nothing this season has been MacT's fault, with the possible exception of hiring Eakins but that is to be determined and debatable. Paajarvi for Perron was an epic win, as was the signing of Ference (imo). This season's poor performance is down to the players first, and the coaching staff second.

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#8 YFC Prez
December 14 2013, 05:58PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Agreed. Nothing this season has been MacT's fault, with the possible exception of hiring Eakins but that is to be determined and debatable. Paajarvi for Perron was an epic win, as was the signing of Ference (imo). This season's poor performance is down to the players first, and the coaching staff second.

I still don't understand trading Smid. His salary dump wasn't really needed to sign Bryz. Guess I will have to wait until seasons end to find out.

Mac T> Tambi, even with the brutal season so far I think that's a very fair assessment.

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#9 YFC Prez
December 14 2013, 06:00PM
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** wrote:

I'd rather have a guy make 4 good moves and 4 bad moves than a guy who waits foerver to make just one move and it turns out to be useless. I still believe in Mac T, and I still believe in Eakins, but there is no denying there are some deeply rooted issues in the Oilers organization that go beyond the on ice product. And I fault Lowe and Katz for that (ditto for Smith and Buchberger).

^ yup...this

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#10 Chet134
December 14 2013, 06:06PM
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. If macT wanted to make a trade it would be done. However MacT isn't willing to trade a quality asset to fill a need. Sequin and Ryan were traded last summer and both players would fit perfectly with our team. Like tambo unwilling to make that bold move. Gagner, hemsky or yak wont get us that player. Perron has made Eberle expendable. Find that asset and put a package together. This team is painful.

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#11 TeddyTurnbuckle
December 14 2013, 06:12PM
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So far so good for Mac T. I know many people have it in for him because he has been around for so long but this guy knows hockey. I like the fact that he and Eakins can talk coaching and strategies and they both know what type of players they need. Tambellini didn't have that type of knowledge in his resume. Mac T needs a couple of years to prove his worth to Oiler fans. Obviously Kevin Lowe did a lousy job as GM but this is Mac T not Kevin Lowe. Just because they are friends doesn't mean Mactavish can't create his own team. Remember when Lowe stepped down as coach and let the better coach in Mac T take over? I see a few similarities now with this situation. Mac T has been through the trenches and the players respect him. Sail on Silver Fox.

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#12 Greg the Hammer Valentine
December 14 2013, 06:18PM
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Well, he did hire the wrong coach. And he couldn't manage to even get a pick in the Smid trade. And he forgot to draft a goalie, when it was clear we needed more prospects in that department. And when Gagner went down with injury he was confident with the depth at center (???), wich propably helped screw the beginning of the season.

Don't get me wrong, I think MacT has the tools to be a good GM, but one of these tools has to be the ability to learn from his mistakes. Of course, it would help if he didn't have K-Lowe looking over his shoulder.

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#13 Rod from Viking
December 14 2013, 06:23PM
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Sounds like Omark on the move, are you OK LT?

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#14 Rod from Viking
December 14 2013, 06:24PM
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Chet134 wrote:

. If macT wanted to make a trade it would be done. However MacT isn't willing to trade a quality asset to fill a need. Sequin and Ryan were traded last summer and both players would fit perfectly with our team. Like tambo unwilling to make that bold move. Gagner, hemsky or yak wont get us that player. Perron has made Eberle expendable. Find that asset and put a package together. This team is painful.

If they could get a bigger #2 center I could see Eberle being moved and Gagner to the wing.

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#15 Comrade GT
December 14 2013, 06:29PM
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I still believe in Mac T and I think that Eakins will be a good fit for this team if they keep him around for more than 1 season. Liking the trades so far, goal tending has pretty much been handled. Now lets see about getting some solid defense and some size up front.

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#16 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 14 2013, 06:30PM
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Oiler record worse than last year and people think MacT is doing well.... Smid was a good trade? no didnt help now at all which is what he said he was going to do when he got the post. Eakins has not been beneficial. He didnt do anything to help the goaltending until they had basically been eliminated from any realistic playoff contention, and nothing is saying that bryz will be a long term success and based on how Mact failed to evaluate talent as a coach how can he be better as a gm? Oh right an online course at Queens made him a genius

Stop the fart catching. its more embarassing than the actual hockey these wimpy excuses for hockey players are delivering

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#17 Gaz
December 14 2013, 06:45PM
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Respectfully disagree, LT. Aside from being more entertaining at press conferences, MacT has shown himself to be no more adept at being a GM that Tambellini.

This organization continues to suffer by overvaluing their players. I think people would be shocked to see how little every Oiler player would garner on the market, save for Hall, Nuge and Perron.

Shuffling third and fourth liners won't help. The elusive bold move is badly needed...and that won't be Omark for future considerations.

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#18 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 14 2013, 06:49PM
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Also Tambellini's 1st year as GM both he and Lowe publicly stated that no serious moves would be made that season as they wanted Tambo to evaluate the whole talent pool the Oilers had.

Right or wrong he did what he said that season. But completely unfair to say MacT is at least making moves where Tambo didn't.

THEY ARE WORSE THAN LAST YEAR PEOPLE how in the blue hell is that an improvement.

MacT the genius has said that you cant keep changing coaches yet that is exactly what he did. By the way he was part of the management team that Put Krueger in the Head Coach spot in the first place.

What a Joke

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#19 gcw_rocks
December 14 2013, 07:16PM
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Four transactions and they will be ridiculously lucky if one of them actually helps the hockey club. Yep, that's progress.

Meanwhile in real GM land, Chicago needs a winger and the GM goes and gets a real NHL player in Versteeg.

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#20 nick
December 14 2013, 07:26PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

Also Tambellini's 1st year as GM both he and Lowe publicly stated that no serious moves would be made that season as they wanted Tambo to evaluate the whole talent pool the Oilers had.

Right or wrong he did what he said that season. But completely unfair to say MacT is at least making moves where Tambo didn't.

THEY ARE WORSE THAN LAST YEAR PEOPLE how in the blue hell is that an improvement.

MacT the genius has said that you cant keep changing coaches yet that is exactly what he did. By the way he was part of the management team that Put Krueger in the Head Coach spot in the first place.

What a Joke

Absolutely correct, they are worse this year than past years. I see some of MacTavish's family is sending in emails. That's nice that they stick up for family. He is brutal, traded Smid for a small and I mean small centre iceman and prospect goalie. That's what this rebuild of the rebuild of the rebuild needs is more prospects. MacTavish could have drafted a better goalie than Broisset at the draft this year but chose to get more lower draft picks. Great plan Oilers, more low round draft picks, they do really good at developing anything but 1st overall picks. The icing on the cake for MacT, hiring a head coach with no experience and an ego bigger than MacTavish's. Bottom line team is worse than last year. GREAT JOB

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#22 spliff
December 14 2013, 07:44PM
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Its hard not to like MacT because he is smart, articulate and does not put forth the arrogant entitlement vibe like KLowe. Therefore, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he does well to fix this sh*tshow of a team as soon as possible.

However, it is a results based business, and the Oilers have sucked for too long, all the while preaching patience to its fanbase and promising greener pastures which right now are no closer then they were five years ago. If MacT cannot significantly improve the roster of this team before next season, then he's gots to go. Then the experiment of hiring unqualified ex-Oilers from the 80's surely has to stop, and Katz can get some qualified 21st century hockey managers on board to spend his money wisely and effectively and give this unbelievably passionate, patient and abused fan base some hope and happiness.

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#23 striker777
December 14 2013, 07:51PM
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YFC Prez wrote:

I still don't understand trading Smid. His salary dump wasn't really needed to sign Bryz. Guess I will have to wait until seasons end to find out.

Mac T> Tambi, even with the brutal season so far I think that's a very fair assessment.

Agree with you completely. Good moves by MacT, except for moving Smid. He simply gave away a top-4 shot-blocking Defenceman to our biggest rival. I was floored.

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#24 Steve
December 14 2013, 07:52PM
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Lowetide wrote:

That's cool, disagreeing is part of the forum. I don't see a trade Tambellini made that had the impact of Perron, and I think Gordon has been outstanding. For me, those two moves are better than anything Tambellini delivered.

LT, I'm gonna have to go with Gaz on this. While I like MacTavish a lot and him being our gm is okay with me, I don't think he's done that awesome. While you're right and Perron & Gordon are both A+ moves and he's done other good things too like Ference in whole he did gave away Smid to our provincial rivals below the market value ( because I don't believe that was the best we could have done) there have been other issues as well. I'm not sure the draft could not have been better (too early to tell I know) but I don't think he has done great. This franchise needs something different. Getting a number 1 defence man would be that. He'd have a free pass for awhile I never post but this was too much kool-aid

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#25 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 14 2013, 08:00PM
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Lowetide wrote:

That's cool, disagreeing is part of the forum. I don't see a trade Tambellini made that had the impact of Perron, and I think Gordon has been outstanding. For me, those two moves are better than anything Tambellini delivered.

Do you really think using tambellini as a measuring stick is a good way to look at it? The Perron Deal was good but don't forget that the Blues were looking to clear some cap space. Good on MacT for landing that but How was Smid a good deal for this club right now when he said that he is here to make the rebuild speed up?

He is all talk same as when he coached. In what Universe was laBarbera and actual challenge to push Dubnyk? labarbera was never able to be a consistent number 1 and his whole career showed that.

My Point is that all macT has offered is words not results so i dont understand how can you say he has been better when the results have been awful just like tambelini's

This is why i get the impression that you are more of an oiler "shill" by trying to put a positive spin on a man that has to this point made this team worse considering that he has been apart of the brain trust since before he was officially hired as GM? Your words feel like Stauffers when he said a bold move was coming this past summer, as part of the Oiler PR machine.

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#26 Time Travelling Sean
December 14 2013, 08:04PM
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Go Bruins Go. Beat up those Canucks.

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#27 YFC Prez
December 14 2013, 08:11PM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

Go Bruins Go. Beat up those Canucks.

I would say its sad and pathetic to have to cheer for another team to settle our score with the nucks. But....

I'm also watching the game tonight just cause the canucks have a decent shot of loosing...life of an oilers fan.

#Can't do it on their own it seems

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#28 fig pucker
December 14 2013, 08:13PM
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@lowetide to be fair we usually get untill christmas before we are sure the oilers are out of playoff contention, this year we knew two weeks into the season. the smid, labarbra and pending omark moves seem like managment recognizing this and geting rid of some salary, we got nothing meaningfull in return. the reason managment needs to go is that this team needs a fresh approach, some one who doesn't look at the world through kevin lowe colored glasses. a person with objectivity who has no personal attachment to the players and who can give an accurate appraisal of their value and potential. like those damn flames did when they hired burke. it pains me to say it but they started their rebuild 5 yrs after us and now they may be 5 yrs ahead of us. please anyone who thinks these moves are anything but desperate may be just as delusional as managment.

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#29 Oilerz4life
December 14 2013, 08:16PM
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Love how LT tries to set up the thread for speculation. Who will Mac-T bring in, center, defence? But, it regresses into the same broken record...hate Lowe, hate Katz, hate Smith. Yes we all realize that. It goes without saying, but isn't there any intelligence out there that doesn't sound like a mindless lemming or clone? Sheep. What would you do? Derrr me hate Klowe. We hate Klowe. Reset the broken record. Is there any interesting trade speculation out there, or do we have to log into the Nation to hear the same few trolls spout the same rhetoric? Come on. What would you suggest as a solution (besides the same fire Lowe rant)? Try to find some interesting Oilers speculation and it always comes back to this site and the same miserable tune over and over.

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#30 Muji
December 14 2013, 08:24PM
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I still don't know why he traded Smid. Or at least why he didn't at least wait until closer to the deadline to trade him.

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#31 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 14 2013, 08:28PM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Love how LT tries to set up the thread for speculation. Who will Mac-T bring in, center, defence? But, it regresses into the same broken record...hate Lowe, hate Katz, hate Smith. Yes we all realize that. It goes without saying, but isn't there any intelligence out there that doesn't sound like a mindless lemming or clone? Sheep. What would you do? Derrr me hate Klowe. We hate Klowe. Reset the broken record. Is there any interesting trade speculation out there, or do we have to log into the Nation to hear the same few trolls spout the same rhetoric? Come on. What would you suggest as a solution (besides the same fire Lowe rant)? Try to find some interesting Oilers speculation and it always comes back to this site and the same miserable tune over and over.

It always comes back to lowe because he is the foundation of the problem. Of course every thread gets broken down to that because that is the true failing of this team and any move made by lowe and the people he and they hired is suspect. The rebuild was slow but Mact and Lowe have orchestrated it going off the rails.

According to lowe they were supposed to lose under Tambellini so he doesnt make many moves because they want to rebuild through the draft. He got fired so Mact could swoop up the glory and all the boys could be happy together. Problem is the boys have no real clue how to build a hockey team and after 13 years this is evident. Sorry but the record speaks for itself. All kevin lowe has built is a culture of losing and becaused he pumped the tires so heavily on the #1 overall picks that there is now an added culture of entitlement.

A completely new and outside voice is needed at the top. Nothing gets better until that happens. This is the life of the Oiler fan. And Cowboy fan. And hopefully soon to change Raider fan.

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#32 Andrew
December 14 2013, 08:36PM
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By declaring that 8 or 9 players are 'untouchable' I see no way to effect any kind of realistic and meaningful trade. The top 6 as they are now constituted will never be winners. At least two of the top 6 forwards are going to have to be in play. Justin Schultz is the only D I would keep. Trades or waiver acquisitions amount to nothing more than nibbling at the edges.

No GM who wants to keep his job is going to take the bottom players from the Oilers line-up and give up top 6 ir top 9 players. Somebody who suggests that is. Dreaming in technicolor. Perron for Paajarvi us not going to happen very often.

Expecting to build a contending team with more 'nothing' moves like what has happened so far is a total pipe dream.

Oh, by the way, start by bringing a veteran NHL coach in and send Eakins down the road to learn to coach elsewhere. During this entire decade of failure Lowe has hired rookie coaches and what has been the result? Yes, failure. Hiring buddies instead of the most qualified hasn't worked for anyone now has it? Lowe is a complete loser. Apparently everyone else in this parade of the macabre is out if step. He is a joke.

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#33 Rod from Viking
December 14 2013, 08:40PM
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Muji wrote:

I still don't know why he traded Smid. Or at least why he didn't at least wait until closer to the deadline to trade him.

I was told it was his comment after the loss to Detroit, he was asked if this was "Rock Bottom" and his reply was "it can still get worse, a lot worse". True or not I don't know, there has been all thiswe have puck moving defense talk and all I see are D-men that can't get the puck out of our end and except for Ference they don't hit anyone.

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#34 Quicksilver ballet
December 14 2013, 08:40PM
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Money sure doesn't compensate for character.

In Detroit, every person inside that dressing room is a valued member of the Ilitch family/team. There's nothing the players/former players won't do for Mike or the Ilitch family.

In Edmonton, the players are made to feel like employees. Maybe Daryl Katz was the first human born without a soul. Maybe even North Americas top street pharmacist to boot.

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#35 Racki
December 14 2013, 08:50PM
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MacTavish should try and see if he can convince the new Calgary GM (when they get one) to trade that Ladislav Smid guy to us.

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#36 Rod from Viking
December 14 2013, 08:51PM
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@Andrew

They also said they needed to make 6-10 moves in the off season and there are 12 players gone from last years roster, now Bob Stauffer and others are saying they need to change 6 more player( which I agree with) so I would say there has been moves but it was so broken it will take 2-3 more years. It is nice to shed contracts but with the cap going up I don't know who they will be used on, please no more KHL d-men.

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#37 CMG30
December 14 2013, 08:51PM
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Yes the Oilers are worse this year than last but let us not forget that in the 15 games of the year we had some combination of Hall at center, no RNH or Gagner and DD pooping all over the ice.

MacT has made a few fantastic moves a lot of ok moves and at least 1 head scratcher. I'm ok with that.

Judging from his interviews, he seems to have a grasp of this teams weaknesses and has taken several swings at trying to correct them. Granted he's come up empty but at least he's trying.

Frankly it's got to be difficult to make a trade for the kind of players the Oilers need now. Either it has to make sense for both teams or one team has to drastically overpay. Given how this season has unfolded, I don't see any reason why the Oil should overpay right now. (Maybe if the playoffs were still in the picture then I could see an argument.) So, that leaves us waiting for the right dance partner. I don't know how long that will take but I'm confident that persistence will pay off and we'll get the right guys eventually.

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#38 YFC Prez
December 14 2013, 08:51PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Money sure doesn't compensate for character.

In Detroit, every person inside that dressing room is a valued member of the Ilitch family/team. There's nothing the players/former players won't do for Mike or the Ilitch family.

In Edmonton, the players are made to feel like employees. Maybe Daryl Katz was the first human born without a soul. Maybe even North Americas top street pharmacist to boot.

The players are employees though. Treating them as such doesn't mean Katz has no soul it means he is the boss.

If Katz had no soul do you think Lowe would still be in his position?

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#39 china town man
December 14 2013, 08:57PM
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It's is not a great hockey Decision but bring up big MacIntyre and let's have Some fun !!! If we can't Win hockey game than let's Won some fights, give the Fan's something to cheer About, just saying

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#40 -30-
December 14 2013, 08:58PM
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As hockey fans we tend to judge our teams by the last game played. Read the messages here for a few weeks and you see the trend. On the wagon. Off the wagon.

Why so little in return for trade? Maybe because there is more to it? Making room for another acquisition during the trade deadline?

A new coach. A new gm. Same old losing team. It's hard to be patient after all these years of agony, humiliation and losing.

Turning this team's fortunes around is like turning an ocean cruiser. It can't be done in a month or even six months.

It's the little steps that make progress. I think that we're trending upwards. Slowly but still going in the right direction.

-30-

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#41 Quicksilver ballet
December 14 2013, 09:10PM
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@-30-

Ocean cruiser.....ice.......is this boat you speak of the HMS Titanic by chance?

I hate being a pessimist, but this may not end well.

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#42 Kypreos
December 14 2013, 09:13PM
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Do you really think Mac T has not tried to get assets? Reality is Edmonton is not an attractive market right now. This needs to be torn down to certain extent and started over.

Start at Lowe, Mac T, Rexall and so on....

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#43 I Remember the Orange Jerseys
December 14 2013, 09:14PM
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Although I disagree about keeping J. Schultz (sorry, I’m just not a fan), Andrew is definitely correct about this team going nowhere as long as MacT treats the Fab-Five as untouchable.

I’ve personally been hoping for a trade involving one of the so-called “young guns” for more than a month. The truth of the matter is Eakins isn’t going anywhere in the foreseeable future. That being the case, MacT should at least give him some semblance of a balanced line up so that we can see what kind of an NHL coach he makes with 3 or 4 actual NHL lines on the roster.

I’m old enough that I witnessed the entire careers of the "Boys on the Bus", and I’ve had my fill of this current "Backstreet Boys on the Bus" version. MacT, please make that bold move you promised us when you were given the keys to the bus.

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#44 camdog
December 14 2013, 09:21PM
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"Addressing need. Craig MacTavish needed a goalie solution and found one. It's been years since the Oilers had a GM who moved a finger before Christmas to help the roster."

I will wait until Bryz plays a few more games before I'd say we have found a solution to the goalie problem. As far as I can tell Philly paid this same guy tens of millions to leave there organization.

As to the sense of urgency I think it's more of a reflection of the fans being pissed off and ready for change. Like it or not this is the first time Lowe (since Katz arrived) has had his job on the line, if Mact doesn't pull a miracle they will all be gone.

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#45 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 14 2013, 09:28PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Money sure doesn't compensate for character.

In Detroit, every person inside that dressing room is a valued member of the Ilitch family/team. There's nothing the players/former players won't do for Mike or the Ilitch family.

In Edmonton, the players are made to feel like employees. Maybe Daryl Katz was the first human born without a soul. Maybe even North Americas top street pharmacist to boot.

Money is his soul. He just got handed an arena For 125 mill and basically the Keys to create a downtown in his own way.

He will care nothing for the fans because all he has ever seen in people is that they are sheep to feed his empire. Proof is in his entire tenure as owner they have never made the playoffs and he seems to not care.

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#46 Gaz
December 14 2013, 09:37PM
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@Lowetide

Yeah, I completely agree re: Perron & Gordon. I don't mind the Ference signing either.

That said, the team is dead last in the West...and that's really the only stat that matters. Not enough, and a man, like his predecessor, that's scared to make the tough (bold) decisions (despite chest-thumping pressers). This team doesn't win unless 2 of the 4 kids are used to acquire proper players.

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#47 Quicksilver ballet
December 14 2013, 09:41PM
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@I Remember the Orange Jerseys

With another lotto pick coming this yr, lets say you can move 2 of those perceived irreplaceable pieces.

Who do they net you in return, if you want to enter the realm of bold? However unlikely some may think.

Oilers need to go big, or stay at home if you ask me.

On the topic of your orange jerseys. Are the Oilers getting a new third jersey? Seen that exact jersey in your avatar at United Cycle this past week. CCM has put them out. Thought they looked ace.

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#48 mlcselli
December 14 2013, 09:46PM
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Besides being a GM and former head coach, Mac T is also a fan of the game. He sees the same bullish!t we do. He sees the same prima donnas we do. He sees the same mailed in effort we do. He sees the same players getting free passes we do. He sees the same weak plays we do, and every so often he sees the same group of players decide to show up and play well. The consistent inconsistency hopefully has some of these so called untouchables looking more and more tradable to MacT as well. Any team of players giving 100% every night, has far more value on the ice (even if they are not stacked with skill and pedigree), than our talented group that shows no heart. I hope MacT cleans house. There are only a handful of Oilers playing with passion, heart and effort every night. MacT sees this too.

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#49 nick
December 14 2013, 09:54PM
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Agree with you completely. Good moves by MacT, except for moving Smid. He simply gave away a top-4 shot-blocking Defenceman to our biggest rival. I was floored.

A ridiculous trade. This organization couldn't afford to get rid of grit and for prospects. The Oilers don't need more prospects they need NHL players and they got neither in that trade.

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#50 Serious Gord
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Comrade GT wrote:

I still believe in Mac T and I think that Eakins will be a good fit for this team if they keep him around for more than 1 season. Liking the trades so far, goal tending has pretty much been handled. Now lets see about getting some solid defense and some size up front.

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