What you gonna do about it?

Robin Brownlee
December 14 2013 10:59AM

What was your gut reaction to seeing Zack Kassian of the Vancouver Canucks rub the Edmonton Oilers noses in the stinking end of a 4-0 waxing at Rogers Arena Friday by mocking Sam Gagner?

Video provided of a scrum near the Edmonton bench at the end of the game shows Kassian, who badly broke Gagner's jaw with a high stick in pre-season, yapping at the Oilers and motioning toward his face. He appears to be saying "What's this?" or "What's that?" in reference to the cage Gagner is wearing to protect his jaw.

While what Kassian said exactly is up to question, his actions, whether you deem them a classless act worthy of contempt or weasel-like agitating that's part of the game, begs another question: "What you gonna do about it?"

We'll have to wait until January 21 for the Oilers to answer.

THE OPTIONS

Where you fall in the gut-reaction category to what unfolded Friday will dictate where you come down as far as what you deem a suitable response to Kassian's actions.

1. Win hockey games. There's a school of thought that he who laughs last laughs best and that there is no better way to shove it to Kassian and the Canucks than to beat them on the scoreboard.

2. An eye for an eye. If your blood boiled as the gap-toothed Kassian smirked and motioned, you're likely of the mind that the Vancouver ruffian should see a steady diet of Steve MacIntyre and Luke Gazdic when the teams meet in January. Kassian deserves an ass-kicking.

3. A combination of the first two options. Kassian should pay for what he did and what he said by taking a beating on the ice and the Oilers should add an exclamation mark by answering the "What you gonna do about it?" question on the scoreboard. Hell, why not run that clip before every game against the Canucks?

4. Do nothing. Turn the other cheek. Exacting payback from Kassian is nothing but premeditated violence and goonery that would drag the Oilers down to his level. As for beating the Canucks, well, the Oilers aren't actually good enough to do that.

WE WAIT

Whatever the Oilers come up with as a response, that response is best left unsaid – assuming it falls under one of the first three options. First, talk is cheap. Second, if the Todd Bertuzzi-Steve Moore case taught us anything, it's that there's legal peril in talking about revenge and then getting it.

Reporters, you can rest assured, will be looking for comment about Friday's incident with the Oilers in California today. I'm guessing Dallas Eakins and his players will offer up a whole lot of nothing on that front. Better now that what's churning in their guts doesn't pass by their lips.

What you gonna do about it?

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#51 Gerald R. Ford
December 14 2013, 11:42AM
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My gut reaction was:

a) Kassian's a sack of crap b) I wish we had someone like him c) I miss Gator

This team is far too content with floating near the bottom of the pond, feeding off of detritus like Columbus, them swimming away as fast as they can when the big fish come by.

There's losing, and then there's being emasculated. I don't think this organization can tell the difference any more.

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#52 risto siltanen's slapshot
December 14 2013, 11:50AM
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when they were players lowe and mac t knew what to do but as management and coaches they have forgotten. maybe they're protecting the future of the old boys club by making sure this team has all it's braincells 4 management cuz it sure ain't for competing in a HOCKEY game. give these players a tutu and let them try out for blades of steel. nooo, better not cuz struddie would kill them.

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#53 jeff340
December 14 2013, 11:51AM
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@Zamboni Driver

5'9" 180 lbs, Michael Liambas fought Macintyre a couple nights ago.

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#54 Rondo
December 14 2013, 11:52AM
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Oilers are a good flag football team.

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#55 Gret99zky
December 14 2013, 12:01PM
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Someone in a previous thread posted this gem.

"The Oilers bring children to a knife fight."

Spot on.

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#56 Bucknuck
December 14 2013, 12:04PM
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Kick. His. A$$!!

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#57 Rod from Viking
December 14 2013, 12:10PM
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admiralmark wrote:

I got the ultimate Option #5:

Trade Gagner to the Canucks. Hahahahahaha jokes on them now!

For Kassian and then Omark for Bieksa.

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#58 Ari Gold
December 14 2013, 01:05PM
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Dog Train wrote:

The Canucks are fake-tough. They bullied us because we are a bunch of pansies. When they meet a real physical team in a seven game series, they will fold their tents like they always do.

I am sick to my stomach about how the whole game went last night. We were making soft plays all night and nobody should feel the slightest bit good about themselves. As for Kassian, he's a piece of trash. In a lopsided game like last night, I would have loved to see Gazdic get a pound of his flesh. I am sick and tired of being pushed around, disgusting.

AGREED.

We'll see how the Bs manhandle the Nucks tonight.

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#59 camdog
December 14 2013, 01:06PM
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@David S

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puMana_bq1o

We do this, it would be fun. Call up Macintyre, Eager and Abney. Heck Abney would make more money in a week up before he got suspended then he will in his entire career in the minors!

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#60 cubsfan
December 14 2013, 02:19PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Looks like we have seen the last of LaBarbera, he just got traded to Chicago for "future considerations" . That's one less contact on the books, I give a yay to that!

Also must mean that The Bryz is good to go, double yay !

should have sent dubby too.......for future, future considerations

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#61 mlcselli
December 14 2013, 03:17PM
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My option is "OTHER". Gagner should have given Kassian a well placed stick across his big ugly yap. Two things to happen. Gagner gets suspended and Kassian gets an attitude adjustment.

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#62 Quicksilver ballet
December 14 2013, 03:35PM
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Now would be a good time for another Weak Kneed Wimps article by Terry Jones. The Cat (Zac Kassian) was out peacocking and sure enough, all the Oiler mice scattered.

I'd over react on the retaliation. I let MacIntyre take suspension on him. Steve gets one, almost shift. Eakins sends him out on a last change opportunity. Participation in this event is not optional for ole Zac, the puck isn't even dropped before Kassians head hits the ice.

After knocking Kassian out, Steve MacIntyre takes a much celebrated victory lap around Rexall ice before retiring to an early shower.

Tell the NHL discipline types to Puck off and mind their own business.

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#63 **
December 14 2013, 05:01PM
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You can`t control what Kassian or anyone else is going to do or say. But you CAN control what you do about it. Gagner`s game may suck, but he is an Oiler and his team should've had his back. What Kassian did last night is a reflection on how the League sees the Oilers: a bunch of fragile pushovers who represent no challenge nor concern and lack any kind of respect because they haven't earned any.

As a fan this hurts me more than the losses.

PS: F$%k Kassian, just another Sea Avery in the making. If the Canucks organization had any class they would self regulate and sit Kassian like the Stars did with Avery after his sloppy seconds comment. And where's the NHL? isn't there are rule to fight this horrid type of lack of sportsmanship?

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#64 Jimmer
December 14 2013, 05:04PM
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Living in Calgary and being a die hard Oiler fan...I hate to say it...but they may figure it out before we do.

Burke, after firing Feaster, made these comments:

"Acquire skill and surround it with Beef."

"It’s not because it’s Brian Burke’s view on life that we like big or hard hockey, it’s because that’s what wins in our league."

My point here is that we have skill players that will never realize their potential unless we trade for hard nosed players to compliment them.

For example, (not a trade I would do but you will get the point) on paper a Yakipov for Steve Ott and Drew Stafford might be a one sided trade in favour of Buffalo but, these two guys are the types of guys you sprinkle in your top nine forwards to "beef" up your line up and give confidence to your skilled forwards that they have someone to watch their backs or do the "dirty" work that is required to win.

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#65 **
December 14 2013, 05:15PM
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camdog wrote:

On the current roster I think only Gadzic and Ference are willing to fight more than Gags. Maybe you can throw a couple of other guys in there, but on this team of guys willing to go to war Sam is in the top third.

You can blame the goaltending, you can blame the defence, me myself I think the season was lost in the Presesason when Kassian clubbed Gags in the face and there was no response.

There are some nice clips on you tube of Belov laying down the law. I'd like to know why he isn't being unleashed here..

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#66 YFC Prez
December 14 2013, 05:27PM
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** wrote:

There are some nice clips on you tube of Belov laying down the law. I'd like to know why he isn't being unleashed here..

When the Oil signed him I hit up youtube and found a clip of Belov laying out Kuznetsov (sp?) then standing over him taunting him and nudging him with his skate.

I didn't really like the play and it was dirty as hell, but I liked the nastiness and pushback (didn't like the hit he took). And he hits like a fire truck, also haven't seen very much of that.

Oilers need some of that Belov from the KHL, why is it that everyone gets pillowy soft as soon as they put on the oilers crest.

EDIT : just went back and watched the video again. Belov kicked at him with just a glancing miss of the skate blade. Very dangerous, but the point still stands...oil need some of his nastiness.

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#67 Oasis
December 14 2013, 06:17PM
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I want to Kassian get his teeth knocked out just like everybody else here. But I am not going to be foolish enough to think that it will happen and I don't think many of you here believe it will happen either.

We have all seen this show before.

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#68 Zamboni Driver
December 15 2013, 02:54PM
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Freewheeling Freddie wrote:

Fistric and Peckham would kind look nice on the backend right now wouldn't they

No they really really wouldn't.

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#69 Tikkanese
December 16 2013, 10:57AM
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Umm, wasn't Kassian talking to Gazdic and making fun of Gazdic's beard?

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#70 nick
December 16 2013, 11:22AM
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YFC Prez wrote:

When the Oil signed him I hit up youtube and found a clip of Belov laying out Kuznetsov (sp?) then standing over him taunting him and nudging him with his skate.

I didn't really like the play and it was dirty as hell, but I liked the nastiness and pushback (didn't like the hit he took). And he hits like a fire truck, also haven't seen very much of that.

Oilers need some of that Belov from the KHL, why is it that everyone gets pillowy soft as soon as they put on the oilers crest.

EDIT : just went back and watched the video again. Belov kicked at him with just a glancing miss of the skate blade. Very dangerous, but the point still stands...oil need some of his nastiness.

One big difference is Belov was playing in the KHL where he could bully non physical Russian players. He is now in the NHL (one would wonder why) and he is way out of his league. He will be back in the KHL next year playing where he belongs. Not an NHL player and if he tried some of that nastiness here he would be on his butt in a hurry he knows it so he stays away and a smart decision on his part. He needs to be healthy next year playing for Omsk

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#71 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 14 2013, 11:29AM
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The Oilers basically reiterated what they have been proving the last 6 years. No heart no desire no guts. Their record proves they are not an NHL caliber team. There lack of desire to make Vancouver pay for the broken jaw is just sad. I am not saying goon it up (cause other than Gazdic they have no one who can do it) But hit the sedins. Run kesler. "Fall" into luongo. Nope none of that. Just a bunch of guys collecting paycheques.

PU$$IE$

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#72 -30-
December 14 2013, 11:39AM
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What are they going to do about it? Nothing.

What can they do about it? Nothing.

Until the Oiler develop a team spirit they are a bunch of individual players playing for themselves.

They haven't done much this or the past few years to demonstrate that they are capable of sticking up for themselves.

They're an easy team to play. An easy team to beat. An easy team to intimidate.

-30-

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#73 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
December 14 2013, 11:40AM
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Just read they traded Barbie to Chicago for a pick? NHL app just said 'future considerations'.

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#74 tileguy
December 14 2013, 11:42AM
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perhaps now we have some wiggle room under the 50m contract level?

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#75 MessyEH
December 14 2013, 11:47AM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Just read they traded Barbie to Chicago for a pick? NHL app just said 'future considerations'.

I am picturing the washer and dryer out of the locker room. Only way any of Chicago winning culture rubs off on our guys.

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#76 Zamboni Driver
December 14 2013, 11:48AM
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-30- wrote:

What are they going to do about it? Nothing.

What can they do about it? Nothing.

Until the Oiler develop a team spirit they are a bunch of individual players playing for themselves.

They haven't done much this or the past few years to demonstrate that they are capable of sticking up for themselves.

They're an easy team to play. An easy team to beat. An easy team to intimidate.

-30-

But toe drags, we're all about the toe-drags.

So there's that.

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#77 Oiler Al
December 14 2013, 11:52AM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Looks like we have seen the last of LaBarbera, he just got traded to Chicago for "future considerations" . That's one less contact on the books, I give a yay to that!

Also must mean that The Bryz is good to go, double yay !

Who is coming back... Toews?

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#78 MessyEH
December 14 2013, 11:52AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Yeah. Gagner would have TOTALLY fought Kassian.

5'9" 180 vs. 6'3" 215.

woulda kicked his @ss too, right?

Be better than that. At least suggest something that involves MacIntyre.

You better check those weights junior. Gagner is a solid 195. His height is hobbit like but the kid is solid. I just wish he would learn to play with Acro 's desire.

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#79 Jerod
December 14 2013, 11:56AM
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Oilers have no more meaningful games left this season .

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#80 camdog
December 14 2013, 12:08PM
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I actually feel sorry for Gags in this respect. When he was originally clubbed in the face by Kassian, noboby even stood up for him.Gags still has the dam cage on his face, Gags hasn't even had an opportunity to stand up for himself because his jaw is broken. If my friends stood by and did nothing and I got clubbed in the head, they wouldn't be my friends anymore...

As to Shanahan and the NHL's disiplinary you are a joke. As to what to do. Well I wouldn't just call up Big Mac, I would also call up a few others from the minors. The Oilers need to do what Garth Snow and the Islanders did to Pittsburgh. I don't know if it would the situation any better, but it sure would make me feel happy for once this season.

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#81 Johnnydapunk
December 14 2013, 12:10PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Who is coming back... Toews?

That's the rumour, apparently Oduya is also part of the package if we throw in Will Acton :-P

Just looked at the Hawks on capgeek, and for a Stanley Cup winning team who are on fire this year, they are weirdly thin in net. It kind of boggles the mind that they now have 2 former Oiler goalies in their roster now.

Looks like the Bulin wall experiment spectacularly failed (injured again, surprise...)

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#82 YFC Prez
December 14 2013, 12:19PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Yeah. Gagner would have TOTALLY fought Kassian.

5'9" 180 vs. 6'3" 215.

woulda kicked his @ss too, right?

Be better than that. At least suggest something that involves MacIntyre.

Beauchemin 6'0 212

Dillon 6'2 210

Jokinen 6'3 215

Jack Johnson 6'1 231

Kessler 6'2 202

Some on samwises fights. I don't think it's a Kassian size issue more of a Gagner just had his jaw busted issue. Kassian is chirping a player he is fully aware can't fight right now. Based on Sams history , if his jaw were 100% he would be very welcome to a kassian fight.

I agree with you though Macintyre or Gazdic needs to do something terrible to Kassians face. What a chicken sh!t.

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#83 Johnnydapunk
December 14 2013, 12:29PM
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And to answer the original post on what to do with Kassian. I'm guessing that if anything remotely happens to him, it will be looked over and over and over by Shanny and his lady friends, so no matter what you do you're pooched.

If you are gonna do something, don't do it half assed, you look like a tit if you do that. If you succeed, do it well, if you fail, fail spectacularly, so I would hope that the Oil will make sure that Kassian has to keep his head on a swivel.

The thing is and maybe I am advocating violence in this sense, but all it takes is one questionable incident to put the fear in players. The key is to show that it is possible so it is in the back of their minds.

I hope the Oil just don't worry too much about letting up on their hits if it is a bit late or high, just let them know that they won't take sh*t and they are capable of committing a potentially suspendable offence.

The Nucks have done that already and that was why Kassian could do what he did, they also have a history of doing things like that.

Sometimes you need to do something extraordinary to make people notice, so they know what you can do, that you aren't afraid of the consequences.

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#84 DAVE
December 14 2013, 12:29PM
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@Bishai in the Benches

Your right, this team and organization for that matter has no self respect. Me, on the other hand, have been a fan since 79, do have a enough self respect not to go to anymore games. It might be a viral infection too. To bad nobody has a pharmacy when you need one.

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#85 common sense
December 14 2013, 01:16PM
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Reminds me of when goalie Ryan Miller got run over by Lucic and no response. Miller's never been the same since. Sam may never be the same since and this team of smallish forwards will never be the same as it is now. Push, body and intimidate and this team will inevitably lose. They mainly play good against teams that really don't do any of the above.

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#86 camdog
December 14 2013, 01:23PM
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common sense wrote:

Reminds me of when goalie Ryan Miller got run over by Lucic and no response. Miller's never been the same since. Sam may never be the same since and this team of smallish forwards will never be the same as it is now. Push, body and intimidate and this team will inevitably lose. They mainly play good against teams that really don't do any of the above.

That entire organization crumbled after that play.

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#87 Webposter
December 14 2013, 03:14PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

You left out option 5.

5. Repay Kassian by a series of intense, hockey checks to skill players on the Nucks. Taking out Kassian -- a marginal player on a very good team -- has a lot of catharsis in its favor… but a true eye for an eye would say that a marginal player taking out a skilled player deserves the same in turn. Introduce a Sedin to the boards and make sure your stick/elbow are appropriately placed.

Wouldn't that require the Oilers to have players able to initiate a series of intense hockey checks?

RNH got flattened by a Sedin last night. A SEDIN!

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#88 seanjohn
December 14 2013, 03:36PM
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Zarny wrote:

Kassian is the last guy who should be running his mouth. Talk about a draft bust. He'll be out of the league selling used tires a decade before Gagner is done.

Since MacIntyre and Gazdic are the only Oilers capable of doing anything about it one of them has to step up.

The Oilers are considered the easiest team to play against. That has to change. Cream puffs don't win the Stanley Cup.

and this is the core that Mr. 6 cup, he who knows a something about winning, is to determined to win with, and his newly hired GM has stated will not tinker with. lovely

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#89 ubermiguel
December 14 2013, 04:33PM
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This is what Kassian needs: http://video.oilers.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=486986

Willing participant or not, he should be forced to scrap. If he turtles, great, the league can see him for the Avery he is.

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#90 **
December 14 2013, 05:09PM
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Freewheeling Freddie wrote:

January 21 Vancouver is in town. Time to goon it up Gadzic mac and if we have to 1or 2 from the echl team. Enough is enough already. Kassian needs to stand up and be ready to get demomilshed. Henrik Daniel how your teeth doing you may need some dental work after this game. When you had Lowe and Mac playing there was ample protection from Sammy Brownie K mac or Donnie Jackson.Why wont they toughen this lineup up .It is truly mind boggling.

Kessy, Ewanyk, Hamilton, Big Mac, Gazdic, Pittlick and Abney. The season is already lost, and the game is probably going to be a loss as well, then make a statement and put the nucks on their but$s. Run around all game and make them feel the pain, not just Kassian, but everyone on that team, because they allow Kassian to act like he does, they are as responsible for it as he is.

Hell, we might even win, once Tort starts sitting down the Sedin sisters and co.

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#91 Kevin
December 14 2013, 06:09PM
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answer- do nothing ! that is what this is capable of. No guts, No character and no goonies. Boston GM revealed his secret to building a solid organization. Draft and acquire CHARACTER. What does our brass do ? Let it go or trade it away. Case in point: Glencross, Hejda, Stoll, Greene, Chimera. Smid Vancouvers 4th line dominated our AHL roster. This team is a joke - fire Klowe, Mac T. But then again what do I know - I don't have 6 rings.

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#92 HOFFFF
December 15 2013, 01:06AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

If I were coaching and wanted payback, I would tell my team to run Kessler, and the Sedin sisters. Put them out, even if it is a dirty play. That is payback. Until the Oilers show they are willing to target the top players on other teams in retaliation, the skill players on the Oilers will continue to be run.

And on January 21st, if I'm Vancouver, I take a run at one of the top Oilers right away, to make the statement before the Oilers try. (emphasis on 'try') The Oilers do not appear to want to earn any respect at this time. Smith and Buchberger are basically gate pullers in suits and Eakins expression NEVER changes. Good coaches get involved, walk the bench, motivate and get the players jacked up. You piss a player off by chewin him out and the next shift he two hands a guy because he's mad. Motivation.

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#93 Death Metal Nightmare
December 15 2013, 03:52AM
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anyone who played hockey as a kid on competitive travel teams or even further - at least in the Pre-Pokemon era - probably learned to react certain ways to chirping, cheap shots, etc...

you do some really questionable vengeance to say "you dont F*** with me or i go legit nuts." spear in the guts? maybe. bobby clarke slash to the ankle? who cares, just get it done. suspended for a little bit? who cares. the season is toast anyhow. go bonkers on some of those f***ers. if any cheapo team deserves it, it's the Canucks for all the Matt Cooke fun onward to present.

"oh thats not honorable. just beat them on the scoreboard."

we know the rules of engagement in hockey.

fake.

and you know what builds teams morale and brings people out of their wimp shell? a little lunacy.

no one on this team has the guts to do it and deal with the stress of being a mad dog. bunch of Pokemon boys f-ing off on their smart phones all day. the closest we have is Perron but he's more of a greasy rat.

Messier and Gary Roberts are scowling somewhere in disappointment

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#94 Death Metal Nightmare
December 15 2013, 03:55AM
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Wintoon wrote:

One scenario nobody seems to have entertained is that maybe Sam's team mates don't really like him and that is why nobody confronted Kassian. May be his team mates are just as sick and tired of his terrible D play as the fans are. Who knows.

fake. scared of authority (Shanahan or whoever is running that Video Fine website these days). scared to go nuts.

"yes sir may i have another" mentality on this team.

"as long as im getting paid and didnt get my face smashed in i can make a cool chunk of cash just skating around and f-ing around with the puck."

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#95 Saytalk
December 15 2013, 06:09AM
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This team is never the predator and always the prey. MacIntyre, Gadzic and any other goons/pests available should be available for a January 21 slugfest. It's not like the Oilers are going to make the playoffs anyway; they should at least go down fighting.

This is as much about sending a message to the young Oilers as it is about the Canucks.

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#96 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
December 15 2013, 10:15AM
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Gerald R. Ford wrote:

My gut reaction was:

a) Kassian's a sack of crap b) I wish we had someone like him c) I miss Gator

This team is far too content with floating near the bottom of the pond, feeding off of detritus like Columbus, them swimming away as fast as they can when the big fish come by.

There's losing, and then there's being emasculated. I don't think this organization can tell the difference any more.

The Oilers play hockey like I play golf.....no physical interaction with opposing players, always looking for the perfect shot, happy/ satisfied when I hit three or four great finesse shots in a game even though my score is ballooning up around 100. I'm unwilling to do the things it takes to be a scratch golfer...just like the Oilers are unwilling to do the things it takes to be a playoff contender.

Compared to players that committ themselves to the game, I am a pathetic golfer. So much so that my goal going into a game is to play bogie golf...its equivelant of the Oilers having a goal of trying to win as many as they loose....PATHETIC!

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#98 Cynic
December 15 2013, 03:07PM
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Agree w/ Bolt: Speedbag a Sedin and swarm Count Floyd.

What's funny is how all the commenters around here were gleeful when Spector lost his gig on DRECK 1260 a day after an epic 10-minute monologue on how sick he was of seeing the Oilers getting pushed around in their own barn.

But he didn't talk gushingly about Corgis, so he was out of favor with Oiler fan.

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#99 Dman09
December 16 2013, 08:46AM
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All skill not enough cock and balls. There needs to be a reaction from the team on stuff like this not just a Gazdic or MacIntyre. The whole team needs to answer and a dirty check needs to come from a skill guy like Hall or Perron or even Gagner himself. Enough is enough you know damn well Lowe never would have sat by and let this kind of crap happen when he was playing and it should be the same story now. Pathetic

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#100 nick
December 16 2013, 11:37AM
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tileguy wrote:

perhaps now we have some wiggle room under the 50m contract level?

I am sure MacT in his infinite wisdom, because he is smarter than anyone else will go and sign Marc Andre Bergeron and one other can't miss reclamation project to round out that 50 contracts. This management team are clueless and the funny thing is they all have such high opinions of themselves. Keep up the good work boys. There was a reason no NHL team wanted MacTavish after he left the Oilers, the best he could land was a minor league coaching job. A good spot for both him and Eakins

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