GDB 36.0: A KING SIZED CHALLENGE

Jason Gregor
December 17 2013 01:00PM

 

Name  Height  Weight    Name  Height  Weight 
Jeff Carter    6' 4"  212   Jesse Joensuu    6' 4"  210
Dwight King    6' 4"  230   Luke Gazdic    6' 3"  240
Anze Kopitar  6' 3"  224   Ryan Smyth    6' 2"  191
Jordan Nolan    6' 3"  221   Taylor Hall    6' 1"  201
Kyle Clifford    6' 2"  211   Ryan Jones    6' 1"  208
Trevor Lewis    6' 1"  198   Ryan Nugent-Hopkins    6' 1"  180
Jarret Stoll    6' 1"  213   Boyd Gordon    6' 0"  202
Tyler Toffoli    6' 1"  196   Ales Hemsky    6' 0"  185
Justin Williams    6' 1"  189   David Perron    6' 0"  198
Dustin Brown   6' 0"  207   Mark Arcobello    5' 8"  166
Daniel Carcillo    6' 0"  200   Jordan Eberle    5' 11"  180
Matt Frattin    6' 0"  205   Sam Gagner    5' 11"  202
Mike Richards   5' 11"  196   Nail Yakupov    5' 11"  186
             
Name  Height  Weight    Name  Height  Weight 
Matt Greene  6' 3"  234   Anton Belov    6' 4"  218
Willie Mitchell    6' 3"  210   Jeff Petry    6' 3"  195
Jake Muzzin    6' 3"  214   Corey Potter 6' 3" 203
Robyn Regehr    6' 3"  222   Justin Schultz    6' 2"  188
Drew Doughty    6' 1"  213   Nick Schultz    6' 1"  203
Alec Martinez    6' 1"  209   Philip Larsen 6' 0"  182
Slava Voynov    6' 0"  194   Andrew Ference 5' 11" 187

When you compare the two rosters it is easy to see where the Oilers fall short. They aren't as experienced as the Kings, and they severely lack the size and overall heaviness of the Kings. Dustin Brown is one of the smaller Kings forwards in stature, but he plays big, and he's one of the best hitters in the game. Same as Mike Richards.

The Kings have a lot of size, but even their "smaller" players play a physical style. The Oilers can't match the Kings' size or abrasiveness, so they need to play a fast-paced, up tempo style to try and defeat the Kings.

**Also for those who keep suggesting the Oilers are an average team in size because one article listed them at an average of 203 pounds. Don't believe everything you read. Add up the numbers above. The Oilers average weight is 196.2 pounds, while the Kings are 209.9. That is an average difference of almost 15 pounds a player. Stop suggesting the Oilers aren't small. They are, and not only are they small, very few of them play big. That isn't a knock, that is just who they are and management will need to adjust the roster accordingly moving forward. The Oilers blueline isn't heavy enough and collectively they lack the aggression needed to shut down a good team.***

It is unfair to compare the Oilers to a team that won the Cup18 months ago, but you can see how to properly construct a Cup contender, when you look at the make up of the Kings and see so many different style of players. The Kings win because they have many skilled players, but also because they have diversity throughout their lineup.

The major difference is the size and strength of the Kings blueline compared to the Oilers. How can the Oilers expect their D-men to break up a cycle when they are so slight. You can have one or two smaller D-men, but you can't have five of them and expect to compete and against heavy teams. The Oilers D-men will need to use significantly more energy just to try and compete with the larger Kings, especially when they are battling for position in front of the net and in the corner.

It is unrealistic for the Oilers management and coaches to expect their team to defeat the Kings. They Oilers worked hard against the Bruins and Ducks, but ultimately they couldn't wear them down. That theme is likely to repeat itself tonight.

BUILDING AN IDENTITY...

Yesterday, I wrote that the Oilers need to find an identity, preferably one that will lead to more victories, and that Craig MacTavish has his work cut out trying to forge said identity.

I asked TSN analyst Ray Ferraro his thoughts on the Oilers identity. 

Their identity is they want to play with the puck, and they will degenerate into one-on-one play if you shut them down. If you ask anyone around the league they will say they are highly skilled up front, not so much on the backend and their goaltending is iffy. 

They have too many of the same players. That is their identity and it isn’t a winning one.  The problem is, even if they play really well a lot of their guys are all doing the same thing. They have a lot of dancers and not many singers. You can’t ask the players to change that; it is up to management.

You can’t ask Gagner to rattle someone’s cage and run people over on the forecheck. Sam is what Sam is. Yakupov is what he is. Nugent-Hopkins is what Nugent-Hopkins is. You can’t ask them to be different. You can ask them to try and do a few more things to round out their game, but they can’t be what they’re not. You can’t ask Boyd Gordon to anchor the powerplay, but you can ask him to win faceoffs and be physical.

If you put enough of those pieces together and they aren’t the same pieces, then you can build your identity.  

I've said essentially the same thing for the past few seasons. I understand it isn't as easy as saying, "we need to get this type of player," and then magically acquiring him. MacTavish did acquire three players this past summer who add a different dimension to the Oilers in Perron, Gordon and Ference, but MacTavish will need to add at least another five or six before the make over is complete.

 The other glaring weakness is the blueline. Ferraro said this about their D corps. 

You would like to have a couple big physical guys, because there are not enough guys who make you stay in the battle. They don’t separate opposing players from the puck. There are too many second plays that hang around on the forecheck. 

You have to define what you are. They have a bunch of tweeners on the blueline. You can have one or two of them, but you can’t have five of them. Without question that is their biggest area of concern moving forward, and the way they are going to have to correct that is to make a pecking order amongst the forwards.

They have to figure out which ones stay and which ones are lower down, and if they are lower down that doesn’t mean someone else doesn’t want them, and wouldn’t drool over them, because they probably have a part you want. But you have to step off the curb and say, “I’m going to move one of these highly skilled forwards.

And if the highly skilled forward scores 35 goals somewhere else, but I get a solid stay-at-home D-man who scores 15 points, and that is what we need, then I don’t care that the other guy gets 35, because I just put a piece in the puzzle that makes us a better team.

Again, I completely agree with Ferraro. I've written many articles stating that eventually MacTavish will need to make a tough decision and move a few of his skilled forwards. Not because they aren't good, but because he has too many of the same style of forwards.

 When you watch tonight's game, watch closely at how much harder the Oilers forwards need to work to sustain a cycle. They have to pay a price to keep in the Kings zone. Then compare that to how easy it is for the Kings to maintain possession in the Oilers zone.

The Oilers do make some bad decisions with the puck in their own zone, but often they are working extremely hard, but the reality is that often they are physically overmatched by opposing forwards.

LINEUP...

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Gordon-Hemsky
Jones-Arcobello-Gazdic

Ference-Petry
N.Schultz-J.Schultz
Belov-Larsen

Bryzgalov

Hemsky returns to the lineup after Eakins decided Hemsky needed a game off to rest his sore ribs. Hemsky and Regehr will likely renew their rivalry. Hemsky never shied away during their battles when Regehr was in Calgary, and I doubt he will tonight.

The more I watch Arcobello the more I like every aspect of his game. He sees the ice very well, makes smart decisions with the puck, is solid defensively, he is always in the battle and he plays physical.

Edmonton is 6-3-2- in their last 11 visits to LA...

WHAT WILL WE SEE...

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers play a competitive game but lose 3-2 in OT.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Jarret Stoll scores for the Kings. Former Oilers always find ways to light the lamp against the Blue and Orange.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: After getting hit hard five or six times by Ben Lovejoy in Anaheim, Taylor Hall decides to initiate contact rather than recieve it, and he delivers are levels Martinez early in the first period. This sets the tone for a surprisingly physical game. When Hall returns to the bench, the camera show Arcobello congratulating him on a big hit, and Hall says to Arcobello, "You can't be the only forward who hits; we need to help you out."

DAY 13...MONTH OF GIVING...

Thank you to Kyle, Sammy's Restaurant and Victor for bidding on our packages yesterday, and to Etelligent Solutions and Crystal Glass for donating them.

Today's package includes:

A CHEF's dinner courtesy of Von's Steakhouse and Oyster Bar. It will include all your beverages as well.

You and three friends will dine with Eskimos GM Ed Hervey, quarterback Mike Reilly  and Eskimos Wall of Honour inductee, current head coach of the U of A Golden Bears and outstanding story teller Chris Morris. I'll also be there, but mainly to fill up your wine glasses.

You can bid by calling 780.444.1260 or 1.800.243.1945 between 2-6 p.m. today.

Thanks in advance. All proceeds go to the Christmas Bureau.

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#51 @Oilanderp
December 17 2013, 04:07PM
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Be careful of trading players/picks with an eye on just the 'now'. As an example, pre-draft 2011 I was arguing all over this site until I was orange and blue in the face that we should trade our 2012 first rounder as part of a package to acquire a second pick in the top 5 in order to grab Adam Larsson.

It's early of course, and we will have a better idea in 2016, but thank Yak that I wasn't GM :)

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#52 Nowuknow
December 17 2013, 04:14PM
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It is not so much how small or big individual is. It is more depend on how much desire, some one has to acquire something and willing to secrify what ever it takes. In other word, it is not the size of the dog it matters but the fight In the dog! The way I see it, majority of oilers top players has been paid well prior proving consistent work-ethic and drive. This goes to the management side too!!!

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#53 Spydyr
December 17 2013, 04:19PM
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David S wrote:

If by "suck again" do you mean scoring a beauty goal and being over 80% on the dot like he was in Anaheim?

I'll take that "suck" any day.

I think the suck might be Gagner was -1.Yet again another minus game.He was also out of position on Penner's game winning goal.That kind of suck.

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#55 Tikkanese
December 17 2013, 04:21PM
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So if Gazdic and Joensuu weren't Oilers, Ryan Smyth would be the tallest Forward at 6'2". Sad. Not to mention, the smallest (Arcobello) and 3rd smallest (Perron) hit the most. Sadder.

The Defense has decent size but most are pretty soft and very easy to play against. Not to mention once again, the smallest (Ference) plays the biggest by far. Sad.

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#56 S cottV
December 17 2013, 04:23PM
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Dont get all the apparent support for Yak.

I know - dynamic skill winger and the whole bit.

But - really he is one dimensional and not really the type of player you need as a cornerstone to a contender.

He pretends to be physical but is really pretty good at getting out of the way, of any trains that might be coming through.

Nice to have if the cornerstones are in place and you can afford it.

He may fetch the biggest return for what we really need, so - I would be very surprised if any bold moves made by MacT, dont include him.

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#57 Zarny
December 17 2013, 04:24PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Man you are a downer.........do you expect given our desperate situation, any team will give us something for our bevy of Hobbits.

The reason there are no trades is because everyone in the NHL is trying to fleece us......I do not like our chances of acquiring an impact player during the season.

I think we stand a good chance of doing a trade in the off-season and would it not be nice to have a player in your hand ( using our draft choices) to close out a deal? Say a Eakblad or Sam Rinehart??

No, I'm a realist. And I don't think the situation is near as desperate as many make it out to be.

All GM's try to fleece each other. Edm isn't special in that regard.

The reason there have been no big trades is two-fold:

1) Edm wants to trade picks, prospects and young players for proven NHL talent. Most teams with those players still have hopes for playoffs and/or simply have 46 games left to play.

2) The domino effect.

Evander Kane is rumored to be on the move...Mtl, Bos, NJ and Fla are rumored to be interested. One of the losers probably gets Hemsky; but until they officially lose out on Kane they won't make the move. That and more salary has to get chewed up on Hemmer's contract.

So I agree, the big trades probably won't happen until the trade deadline, draft or the summer.

And yes, many teams will give Edm something for their bevvy of small, skilled forwards. The problem isn't that Edm's small, skilled forwards have no value. They do. For many teams that is exactly what they lack. Edm just happens to have a surplus and lacks in other areas.

Tor signed Bozak to 5 years. Think about that and where Edm's hobbits stack up.

Regarding trading the 1st round pick:

First, it's not going to be Reinhart or Ekblad I'm afraid. More like Nick Ritchie or Jake Virtanen.

Second, having the player in hand can be a detriment. Most teams are going to want the pick to take the player they want not the player you want.

Even if the pick allowed Edm to get Reinhart or Ekblad. You have more options before the selection than after. As soon as you take Reinhart teams that want a D prospect are gone and vice versa. You're also talking about a trade later in the summer after more teams have already made moves to fill holes. MacT might have to wait until the draft to move the pick but I think the best value will be had before the selection not after.

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#58 @Oilanderp
December 17 2013, 04:27PM
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On the bright side, Mitch Moroz has a point per game over 33 games, and is fourth in the WHL this season in PIMS.....

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#59 Sean17
December 17 2013, 04:37PM
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On the bright side Yak is still even in plus/minus for tonights game….

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#60 Zamboni Driver
December 17 2013, 04:37PM
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Usually I have a thick skin about 'Trashes' (can't think of anything smart to say, hit a button!)

But I'm stunned at trashes for my statement that Ferraro is the best.

Lotsa folks strong in the Louie Debrusk camp, I guess?

There's just no way for Dubnyk to have seen that puck wristed in gently from past the blueline, Kevin. It fluttered too! IT FLUTTERED!

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#61 David S
December 17 2013, 04:40PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I think the suck might be Gagner was -1.Yet again another minus game.He was also out of position on Penner's game winning goal.That kind of suck.

I thought games were won by scoring, i.e. "putting the puck in the opposition's net" rather than +/-. Sam contributed where it counted, on the scoreboard.

If Petry had been just a bit more aware he would have let Bryz see that Penner shot clean instead of trying to wimp block it with his stick. We would have had at least a point out of that game.

I know the "Gagner sucks" narrative is easy to jump on board with because, hey who doesn't like social gratification, right? But alot of times mobs are just dumb guys bunching together against the cold wind of reason.

Or he might actually suck. 50/50 really.

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#62 mlcselli
December 17 2013, 04:46PM
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Gagner listed at 202 pounds and also on the 2nd line tonight? What a crock of crap. Someone needs to put down the pipe.

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#63 Zarny
December 17 2013, 04:55PM
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David S wrote:

I thought games were won by scoring, i.e. "putting the puck in the opposition's net" rather than +/-. Sam contributed where it counted, on the scoreboard.

If Petry had been just a bit more aware he would have let Bryz see that Penner shot clean instead of trying to wimp block it with his stick. We would have had at least a point out of that game.

I know the "Gagner sucks" narrative is easy to jump on board with because, hey who doesn't like social gratification, right? But alot of times mobs are just dumb guys bunching together against the cold wind of reason.

Or he might actually suck. 50/50 really.

Games are won by scoring more than your opponent.

So scoring 1 G but giving up 2 doesn't help the cause.

Regardless, Gagner doesn't "suck". He simply doesn't compliment Nuge or the other top 6 F well.

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#64 Ducey
December 17 2013, 04:58PM
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OilClog wrote:

Better offensive player, but where is the rest of it? Arco is the better 200ft player.

Defense can be learned. Talent can't.

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#65 Alsker
December 17 2013, 05:13PM
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Ducey wrote:

Defense can be learned. Talent can't.

Well at this pace gags will be 35 and should almost have a proper grip on it. If defense can be taught desire/heart cannot. We have not seen anywhere near enough of either from this team since the days of Gator.

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#66 westcoastoil
December 17 2013, 05:16PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Many teams have gotten good value for top picks...

What does it hurt to say the pick is in play. Gives opposing teams six months to think about it. Right now, it looks like it will be a top-five pick for sure...

Many teams have received good value for picks recently...

The Oilers need proven NHL players...they could keep the pick, but they will need to trade some of their other young players if they want to get some good, proven NHL players.

Or they can do nothing, and hope their youth leads them to victories. We have all seen how that strategy is working thus far.

NJ got Schneider for Van's 9th (in a deep draft), so yes you can get an excellent player for a top draft pick. I'd trade Edm.'s 2014 1st rounder for Schneider all day long...

This is definitely the year that the team must bite the bullet and trade away an excellent player who will have success somewhere else. And when the inevitable "I told you so's" come out, so long as you're in a playoff spot you can tell them to zip it.

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#67 Walter Sobchak
December 17 2013, 05:23PM
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David S wrote:

I thought games were won by scoring, i.e. "putting the puck in the opposition's net" rather than +/-. Sam contributed where it counted, on the scoreboard.

If Petry had been just a bit more aware he would have let Bryz see that Penner shot clean instead of trying to wimp block it with his stick. We would have had at least a point out of that game.

I know the "Gagner sucks" narrative is easy to jump on board with because, hey who doesn't like social gratification, right? But alot of times mobs are just dumb guys bunching together against the cold wind of reason.

Or he might actually suck. 50/50 really.

I like Gagner too, but if you think that was Petry's man you need to go back & watch that goal frame by frame.

That's Gagner man in the slot, Gagner actually takes the wrong man on the last goal leaving Petry stuck down low, by the time Petry reacts to the play he's to late.

How many defensemen do you see covering the high slot in all your years of hockey?

As Zarny points out you can score a goal put if your on for two then you ARE part of the problem.

This has been Gagners problem, while a good hockey player on the offensive side he's getting worse defensively.

The Oilers need a big two way center who can bring some offence to the table. Think Dubinsky.

How much do you want to bet Gagner gets owned in the face off circle tonight?

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#68 Oiler Al
December 17 2013, 05:37PM
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One dares to compare apples to oranges, but Montreal is a much smaller team than the Oilers. They have 7 players under 6 feet and 200 lbs., Montreal is in 2nd. place in their Div. with 43 points.. GF-88, GA-75.

Edmonton GF- 93, GA-120 , clearly the problem is on the backend... Montreal built their team from the backend out.. Oilers built theirs by consensus picking shiny beans for them.. no plan.

Tonights opposition ..LA = GF 94[ one more than the Oilers] GA- 68. [ Oilers have almost double that.]

Some teams know what they are doing... some don't.!

Lets blame it all on the kids on this team.. They didn't ask to be picked by this sorry a..ed trainwreck, with Lowe as the engineer.

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#70 Rama Lama
December 17 2013, 05:52PM
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@Zarny

Well though out response. I still don't like trading draft picks, but you are right we will get nothing until we give up something.

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#71 Rama Lama
December 17 2013, 05:55PM
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@Jason Gregor

Damn you Gregor......you always make too much sense! Ok I will give Mac T a break on this one........but Eakins is still on my hit list!

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#72 Dog Train
December 17 2013, 06:16PM
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Welcome to life in the Pacific Division. We've been fortunate to play the soft parade before the last few games. Now we're meeting our new division foes and so far, we simply don't match up well.

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#73 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
December 17 2013, 06:25PM
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Ducey wrote:

Defense can be learned. Talent can't.

The old adage of "you can't teach size" may be appropriate here...

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#74 Brian
December 17 2013, 06:36PM
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The median is more relevant than simple averages but I can't be bothered. Someone ? Anyone ? Buehler ?

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#75 Fresh Mess
December 17 2013, 07:18PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

I dunno - this is the era where TV pays millions of dollars for a song (then barely even uses that song), I think Ray is in for a major payday.

He hasn't played since the 90s so wouldn't have made the obscene dollars of today.

Cherry and Mclean don't even make 7 figures.

Ferraro made between 1.5 and 2 million dollars annually over the last half dozen years of his career.

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#76 madjam
December 17 2013, 07:35PM
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Nowuknow wrote:

It is not so much how small or big individual is. It is more depend on how much desire, some one has to acquire something and willing to secrify what ever it takes. In other word, it is not the size of the dog it matters but the fight In the dog! The way I see it, majority of oilers top players has been paid well prior proving consistent work-ethic and drive. This goes to the management side too!!!

YES it does matter a lot . You ever see a middleweight go up against a heavyweight in boxing ? The Nhl has gotten just like that . Middleweight might be better boxer , but big man nullifies that pretty fast if he knows how to use his reach ,size and weight advantage. More often than not , desire , work ethic and skill not nearly enough sorry to say .

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#77 K_Mart
December 17 2013, 07:56PM
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For you to continually point out that the Oilers problem is size seems short sighted to me.

I know you've never said that size is the be all end all, but you seem to always be pointing out that the oilers are simply too small up front. Realistically, I think that is one piece to a very large puzzle of problems.

#1 problem: worst defensive core in the league #2: goaltending is inconsistent. #3: physicality, size has very little value if you don't use it. #4: face off % by nuge and gags. Over one game it seems to have very little significance, but over 82 games, I assure you all the lost face offs add up. #5: too small #6: too many nice guys. not enough pricks. #7: lots of puck skill... but very little hockey skill. #8: Maybe coaching

This team has so many things wrong right now that just getting bigger probably wouldn't even begin to solve the issue.

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#78 Alsker
December 17 2013, 08:04PM
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madjam wrote:

YES it does matter a lot . You ever see a middleweight go up against a heavyweight in boxing ? The Nhl has gotten just like that . Middleweight might be better boxer , but big man nullifies that pretty fast if he knows how to use his reach ,size and weight advantage. More often than not , desire , work ethic and skill not nearly enough sorry to say .

You never saw Ken Linseman or Theo Fleury play did you. Man what i would give to have this type of player(Gags and a prospect+) on our roster. Overall size is no where near as big a factor as heart/desire are. Bucky,Fogy,Weight all played not to their measured size but to the size of their hearts...the one factor that has no corsi#,stat, or comparable figure!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#79 @Oilanderp
December 17 2013, 08:20PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

One dares to compare apples to oranges, but Montreal is a much smaller team than the Oilers. They have 7 players under 6 feet and 200 lbs., Montreal is in 2nd. place in their Div. with 43 points.. GF-88, GA-75.

Edmonton GF- 93, GA-120 , clearly the problem is on the backend... Montreal built their team from the backend out.. Oilers built theirs by consensus picking shiny beans for them.. no plan.

Tonights opposition ..LA = GF 94[ one more than the Oilers] GA- 68. [ Oilers have almost double that.]

Some teams know what they are doing... some don't.!

Lets blame it all on the kids on this team.. They didn't ask to be picked by this sorry a..ed trainwreck, with Lowe as the engineer.

Yes, our D needs improvement FOR SURE, but i'm not convinced it's only their fault. Half the time our forwards aren't in a good position to get the outlet pass. There isn't enough puck support and definitely a lack of battle and heart all around. Sometimes it seems the only way an Oiler would win a 50/50 is if he bought a ticket in the stands.

For me this season is about finding out who is going to do what Eakins wants, and who is a problem. Ship the skilled problem out for what we need (a la Seguin).

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#80 madjam
December 17 2013, 08:24PM
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Alsker wrote:

You never saw Ken Linseman or Theo Fleury play did you. Man what i would give to have this type of player(Gags and a prospect+) on our roster. Overall size is no where near as big a factor as heart/desire are. Bucky,Fogy,Weight all played not to their measured size but to the size of their hearts...the one factor that has no corsi#,stat, or comparable figure!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes I did see them and more than you'll ever know over 60 some years . That's a different era from todays game . Everything is relative to the times and conditions they played in . Could use a Curt Brackenberry again for entertainment and hitting .

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#81 vetinari
December 17 2013, 08:27PM
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Alsker wrote:

You never saw Ken Linseman or Theo Fleury play did you. Man what i would give to have this type of player(Gags and a prospect+) on our roster. Overall size is no where near as big a factor as heart/desire are. Bucky,Fogy,Weight all played not to their measured size but to the size of their hearts...the one factor that has no corsi#,stat, or comparable figure!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or one of my personal favorites from that era...

Pat Verbeek aka "Little Ball of Hate"

Best... Nickname... Ever!

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#82 sizedoesmatter
December 17 2013, 08:28PM
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Size is good but size with no grit is what the oilers have picked lately.

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#83 Arius Mumin
December 17 2013, 08:48PM
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Perron Arco Yak makes sense, no? Why not?

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#84 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 17 2013, 08:55PM
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Oilers will be taking that top 3 pick next summer. In order to trade it to address an area of weakness, someone has to agree to come here, and who in their right mind would want to come to a pathetic organization like this.

This is as good as it gets for next year country. We'll be in the exact same position 5 yrs from now trying to recover from losing the likes of Hall and Yakupov. As long as the money keeps rolling in, Katz and the tyrant Kevin Lowe will remain best of buds for many a year.

6-2 Kings over our Deadmonton Oilers. 29th will be all ours this night.

Muwahahahahahaaaaa.......

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#85 @Oilanderp
December 17 2013, 09:01PM
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I like how we make all these risky cross-seam passes so that when one finally gets through, Eberle can stick handle it. Great stuff.

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#86 @Oilanderp
December 17 2013, 09:04PM
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Weird.... I believe I just saw Gagner shove Kopitar off the puck and onto his butt. Right after a big Belov hit.... something's wrong.

Ohhhhh there it is, Kings goal.

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#87 Zamboni Driver
December 17 2013, 09:05PM
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Well at least Gagner knew he was to blame.

Again.

Maybe the coach noticed too.

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#88 kgo
December 17 2013, 09:07PM
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Amazing juxtaposition on the Kings goal.

On the right post, Perron, covering his man so ferociously he's literally trying to pick him up and carry him out of scoring postition.

On the left post, Gagner, 10 ft away staring at the open man. Wondering why his helmet is crooked.

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#89 @Oilanderp
December 17 2013, 09:09PM
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I get that you don't like Gags but when 2 kings are at each post alone... it's not just his fault.

I feel bad for Bryz.... he let that goal in because he was trying to play the pass AND the shot at the same time. Where's the D?

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#90 Nowuknow
December 17 2013, 09:10PM
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On LA first goal the assists should go to Gaga & Yak!! They are brutal on D...

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#91 Reg Dunlop
December 17 2013, 09:11PM
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The oil are working hard tonight, a function of having the hope that a real goalie brings. They will lose but really, did anyone expect something else? Chalk up another moral victory.

Btw I still hate Regehr. He gets his back hair all over our young stars. Gross.

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#92 Zamboni Driver
December 17 2013, 09:12PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

I get that you don't like Gags but when 2 kings are at each post alone... it's not just his fault.

I feel bad for Bryz.... he let that goal in because he was trying to play the pass AND the shot at the same time. Where's the D?

He was standing 10 feet away from his man - or hey, let's say it wasn't 'his man' (it was).

As my old hoops coach used to say, "If someone is open it IS your man." Instead there's the 7 year veteran standing and watching.

It IS his fault.

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#93 cain
December 17 2013, 09:13PM
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Great work on that goal, Sam. Well done. Are you still collecting that cheque? Just askin' Sammy-Boy...'cause you're really lookin' like a steal right now at a mere 4.8 million for that stellar effort.

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#94 Newj
December 17 2013, 09:15PM
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Taylor, nice tape to tape pass, just the wrong zone & to the wrong team.

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#95 Stack Pad Save
December 17 2013, 09:16PM
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What's with the bombs Taylor Hall throws up the middle? Gagner the Goat better get nailed to the bench for his horrendous play soon. This coach said something about playing hard and accountability as a mandate at the start of the year. Or am I just wishing that was his mandate?

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#96 vetinari
December 17 2013, 09:16PM
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Bryzer's looking good tonight... I get the feeling that if Dubnyk was playing, we'd be down 3-0 or so by now.

Gags gotta really get his reads down, especially in the defensive zone.

The first rule when a player hits the ice is, "do your team no harm"...

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#97 cain
December 17 2013, 09:18PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

I get that you don't like Gags but when 2 kings are at each post alone... it's not just his fault.

I feel bad for Bryz.... he let that goal in because he was trying to play the pass AND the shot at the same time. Where's the D?

You ARE kidding right? 1 of the open Kings was his man!!!! Please tell me you're kidding,otherwise you may qualify as our next defensive coach...

You WERE kidding Right?

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#98 S cottV
December 17 2013, 09:21PM
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Lol - poor Sam. He got turned around so many times on the lead up to that first goal, I think he got dizzy and didn't know where to go. Yak on point coverage, pointing his stick at his man, like he has him no problem and he ain't there anymore.

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#99 cain
December 17 2013, 09:23PM
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vetinari wrote:

Bryzer's looking good tonight... I get the feeling that if Dubnyk was playing, we'd be down 3-0 or so by now.

Gags gotta really get his reads down, especially in the defensive zone.

The first rule when a player hits the ice is, "do your team no harm"...

Hey, Hey, Hey !!!! Go easy on "Gags"...it's only his seventh year...we're rebuilding here dammit!

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#100 Alsker
December 17 2013, 09:23PM
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Just got in and missed the first period....hmmm I assume we had a defensive breakdown on LA's goal, did we? So, how bad/good was the first...honestly?

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