GDB 37.0: ASK SAKIC?

Jason Gregor
December 19 2013 12:29PM

As the Oilers get set to face the Colorado Avalanche trying to end a four game losing streak, Taylor Hall and company can take solace in knowing that some other young stars endured many years of losing, before tasting the sweet nectar of victory.

They should ask Joe Sakic, the Avalanche's Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations, about losing. He lost way more than these kids have early in his career, and it didn't break him, and he didn't pout about it. He persevered and became a Hall of Famer.

Hall has played 200 games, Eberle has been in 231 games, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins has dressed in 136, while Nail Yakupov is at 82 games and Justin Schultz has played 76. No one should be suggesting that all the losing is going to wear down these kids. I don't believe any of them are that fragile, but even if they thought about having a pity party, they should do a quick search of Joe Sakic's career.

Sakic was drafted 15th overall in 1987 by the Quebec Nordiques. He played one more season in Swift Current before debuting with the Nordiques in October of 1988. Keep in mind that in his first three seasons he played in a 21-team league where 16 teams made the playoffs.

In Sakic's first three seasons, the Nordiques finished dead last every year. The Nordiques drafted 1st, 1st, 1st and 4th in his first four NHL seasons.

1989: They went 27-46-7 for 61 points.
1990: They were 12-61-7 for 31 points.
1991: They went 16-50-14 for 46 points.
1992: They went 20-28-12 for 52 points.

In 1993, they were literally twice as good picking up 104 points going 47-27-10, but in 1994 Sakic and the Nordiques dipped back down to 76 points with a 34-42-8 record.

In his first four seasons, Sakic's Nordiques won a measly 75 of the 320 games they played. Sakic dressed in 299 of those games, and he learned much more about losing than he did winning.

Despite all the losses Sakic played exceptionally well.

YEAR       GP      G       A      PTS
1989        70      23     39      62 
1990        80      39     63     102
1991        80      48     61     109
1992        69      29     65      94

In 1990, the second leading scorer on the Nordiques was Peter Stastny with 62 points in 62 games before being traded. In 1991, Sakic had 50 more points than his closest teammate; Mats Sundin tallied 59 points.

Sakic didn't let the losing get to him. He kept battling and kept producing. 

WINNERS KEEP WORKING DESPITE LOSING  

Hall played his 200th game on Tuesday, and despite another loss, Hall, Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins haven't come close to experiencing the type of losing that Sakic had to face.

Hall's Oilers have played 248 games since he entered the league and they've won 87 of those. Sakic's team won 75 of 320 during his first four seasons. Losing sucks and I'm sure it can wear down a player, but if Hall wants to become one of the greats he needs to keep playing hard, and hope that eventually he will be surrounded by better players. He needs to continue to show determination and play strong, and like Sakic, at times he will need to carry the Oilers on his back.

Hall was the Oilers most dangerous forward in LA. He needs to keep playing like that, regardless of where the Oilers are in the standings or how often they are losing. Hall has the ability to be a franchise player, and considering how much he has improved in his last 100 games, I suspect he'll only keep getting better.

I've heard some people suggesting the kids will get tired of losing and want out of Edmonton, but competitive people don't think like that. There will be games where they look frustrated, and understandably so, but many elite players have started their NHL careers tasting defeat more often than victory, and the last thing that Hall or any of his teammates will do is feel sorry for themselves.

They need to be part of the solution, and when they start to win the victories will be more fulfilling because of what they learned in their first few seasons.

MORE TOUGH STARTS...

Mario Lemieux missed the playoffs in his first four seasons, and five of his first six. The Penguins drafted 2nd, 4th, 5th and 4th in his first four years.

Steven Stamkos has missed the playoffs four of his first five seasons. The Bolts have drafted 2nd, 6th, 10th and 3rd during those four losing seasons.

John Tavares has missed the playoffs three of his first four years, and the Islanders are poised to miss the postseason again. They have drafted 4th, 5th and 5th thus far in his non-playoff seasons.

Rick Nash played five full seasons without the playoffs, and he missed the dance in 8 of his first 9 years.

Ilya Kovalchuk missed the postseason his first four years and seven of his first eight seasons.

Vincent Lecavalier missed the playoffs his first four seasons. The Bolts were scheduled to pick 1st, 5th, 3rd and 4th in those years.

**Sidenote**.. Rick Dudley was the GM for Tampa Bay in 1999 and he traded the 1st overall pick. He moved down to 4th, and then traded again and didn't pick until 47th. He ended up with Dan Cloutier, Andrei Zyuzin, Shawn Burr and the Rangers 1st round pick in 2000. He could have used the first pick on Patrik Stefan or one of the Sedins, although those two had made it known they really wanted to play together.

The next year, Dudley traded the 5th pick to the Islanders for Kevin Weekes, Kristian Kurdroc and the 31st pick. The Islanders selected Raffi Torres. Despite these horrific deals, the Lightning still won the Cup in 2004. ***

Losing stinks but Hall and company aren't the first group of young stars to endure losing seasons, so let's stop the suggestions that they will want out of Edmonton. Anyone in the media or fan base who suggests these kids have endured too much losing need only look at the career paths of other young stars. Rarely is it an instant path to success.

Winning is difficult and as painful as these past few seasons have been for Hall and company, they need to learn from it, and be willing to ensure they improve their play so the team becomes more successful. Hall is good enough to lead this team to better times ahead, and he'll likely inspire his teammates to follow him in the coming seasons.

LINEUP...

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Perron-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Gordon-Hemsky
Jones-Lander-Gazdic

Ference-Petry
N.Schultz-J.Schultz
Belov-Larsen

Dubnyk

Arcobello got rocked by Drew Doughty in the 3rd period of Tuesday's 3-0 loss to the Kings, and hasn't skated since. Lander will draw in for Arcobello. 

The Oilers will need to get scoring chances from someone other than Hall tonight. The Avalanche are 6-5-1 in their last 12, and after a 16-5 start they are starting to look more like the team people expected. They aren't a force like the Kings, Bruins or Ducks, but they will provide another solid test for the Oilers.

Dubnyk gets the start. I'm not one who buys into the "Dubnyk plays better when pushed" theory; however, it is obvious that Dubnyk needs to be more consistent.  I want a goalie who plays well regardless of who he shares the net with.

WHAT SEE YOU?

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers will end their trip on a high, with a 4-2 victory in Denver.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Bordeleau and Gazdic drop the gloves. Fight fans love it, while anti-fight crowd will complain. This will never change.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Usually it is former Oilers scoring against Edmonton, but tonight Ryan Smyth bucks that trend and scores against his former team ending his 10-game goal scoring drought. In 16 home games, Erik Johnson has only been a minus player twice, but he ends up -1 tonight.

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#151 MessyEH!
December 20 2013, 02:59AM
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S cottV wrote:

Yeah Rod - that has always bothered me. Like what were those kids doing in the room while team execs pondered the Hall vs Seguin decision in Oil Change? My God - Now boys make sure you don't text your friends about the decision we just made - ha ha ha. Mickey Mouse Club..

I like the way ROY and Sakic did business leading up to the draft. "We're taking Mackinion that's it!"

Oilers have to consult with all the ghosts of Oilers past and Stevie Y before making the decision. They treat it like an episode of the Bachelor. So much drama and spectacle to determine who next they select to screw.

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#152 Joe Mamma
December 20 2013, 12:03PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Had a Coors banquet to start the night then moved into bush mills Black bush single malt Irish whiskey - 3 fingers with about 1/2 teaspoon filtered water. Times two.

I do love my whiskey.

"Started with beer, now on my second whiskey."

There, I made it less pretentious and douchebag-y. Now you almost fit in Gord. You're welcome.

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#153 Harlie
December 19 2013, 01:02PM
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Burnaby Toby!

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#154 S
December 19 2013, 03:04PM
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** wrote:

No, I got knocked out in the first minute.

Shocking! Your big mouth (keyboard) writes cheques your dukes can't cash! Tuff guy!

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#155 Dog Train
December 19 2013, 04:22PM
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I don't think that Hall or Eberle or any of the kids got to this level by being fragile or quitting when the going gets tough. That said, players now can become free agents at a younger age so I think it's important that the winning starts sooner than later.

As for tonight, the Avs will come out much better tonight. I'll say 4-3 Oilers.

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#156 Herbie Versmells
December 19 2013, 04:29PM
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@jasongregor

"**Sidenote**.. Rick Dudley was the GM for Tampa Bay in 1999 and he traded the 1st overall pick. He moved down to 4th, and then traded again and didn't pick until 47th. He ended up with Dan Cloutier, Andrei Zyuzin, Shawn Burr and the Rangers 1st round pick in 2000. He could have used the first pick on Patrik Stefan or one of the Sedins, although those two had made it known they really wanted to play together.

The next year, Dudley traded the 5th pick to the Islanders for Kevin Weekes, Kristian Kurdroc and the 31st pick. The Islanders selected Raffi Torres. Despite these horrific deals, the Lightning still won the Cup in 2004. ***"

the last 8 words. you mentioned winning the cup.

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#157 D
December 19 2013, 04:39PM
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Mikey wrote:

You should check your records, becuase you will find Colorado was also a huge spender pre Cap. So your argument is null in void.

How does your statement make his argument null and void? The fact that Colorado was a huge spender pre Cap, and was able to compete on the same playing field as the elite teams of the day bolsters his argument that Quebec could have been successful ceteris paribus.

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#158 Danger Pay
December 19 2013, 05:06PM
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Kr55 wrote:

Any past team comparable that kept a guy like Lowe in a high up position during the entire streak of futility that we can look at to give us hope? I can't think of one... It's very possible the Oilers will break the 10 season playoff drought record with Lowe at the helm the entire time and beyond.

Maybe then, Mr. Lowe can regale us all about how much he knows about losing?

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#159 Butters
December 19 2013, 06:28PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Interesting parallels between the Nords and Oilers. The Nords also stockpiled young talent, but didn't turn into a winning team until they made some tough decisions and traded Lindros and Sundin away.

The scary thing is, even at their lowest point the Nords missed the playoffs 5 straight years. The Oilers are going onto 8.

IMO, they lost the Sundin trade. And Lindros wouldn't play in QC so they had to trade him. The Lindros trade led Colorado to a couple cups and cost Philly 1 or 2 imho.

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#160 Serious Gord
December 19 2013, 06:33PM
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1. Re: the young starlings

It has been and remains my opinion that there could be as many as 4 HHOF quality players on this roster, and like many before them they struggle or at least their teams struggle in their early years.

But the sakic/colorado scenario is more the exception rather than the rule.

All too often these player never get the supporting cast they need to become true contenders for - and in some cases winners of the Stanley cup.

And that latter - more common scenario is what seems to be developing here in EDM. And it is what i think is at the root of much of oilersnation frustration. To wit: it looks like supporting calvary/cast (mixed metaphor - actually chimeric metaphor - sorry) of defence, fierceness and goaltending will arrive too late and these stars will have moved elsewhere, been traded to make cap room, or developed very poor habits due to lousy coaching and a lack of veteran mentoring (not all stars are born top percentile leaders like Sakic was).

2. The game tonight has ominous notes going in:

Dubnyk in net is inexcusable. HE has had his chance and should not start unless there is an injury or a bac-to-back. But just as MAct couldnt bear trading Gagner to fill a need but rather signed him to a ridiculous contract he now can't admit defeat with starting the season with DD and yet again throws him into the breach. (i have no doubt that MAct Insisted on DD being played). And that he IS playing is a microcosm of what is wrong with this team's management.

Colorado i bet has had this date marked on the calendar since they got shellacked by the oil two weeks ago...

That said the avs have been struggling and may not respond as well as they may hope to.

AVs win - 4-3 DD lets in two very weak ones...

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#161 Rocket
December 19 2013, 08:16PM
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Huh so that's what happens when The Oilers stand up for themselves. The refs don't allow it. What a BS call on Gagner.

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#162 Rocket
December 19 2013, 08:40PM
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OK The Avalanche completely dominated the first period. Physically, pace-of-play, puck possession etc. but The Oilers were winning so I thought that was cool.

But those two late calls against The Oilers were bogus and now Oiler players are not sure what the refs are gonna call. WTF!

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#163 Mikey
December 19 2013, 08:44PM
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MattL wrote:

Isn't that the same ref that was there for the no-goal Kings game when Yak city was born? Revenge on the Oil fans for making him look like a tool?

That is in fact not the same ref.

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#164 **
December 19 2013, 08:49PM
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Well the AVS got a firecracker up their b^^t$. Guess it did hurt to lose 8-2

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#165 Alsker
December 19 2013, 10:12PM
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Moral victory...baahhh more like another immoral lose...

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#166 Serious Gord
December 19 2013, 10:32PM
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PapaMike wrote:

recalcitrant....we are all drunk now..put away the thesaurus and go away...please try to use small words and pretend you are one of us oiler fans...lol

Had a Coors banquet to start the night then moved into bush mills Black bush single malt Irish whiskey - 3 fingers with about 1/2 teaspoon filtered water. Times two.

I do love my whiskey.

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#167 D
December 20 2013, 01:45AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Stauffer is hinting that the team is not 100% healthy.

That's what you should expect when a small recalcitrant team plays several heavyweights in succession.

And now the meet arguably the fiercest team in the league - the St. Louis blues.

What are the odds that by Sunday the team will be 0-6?

He-he. Stauffer.

Guess everything will be great when they get healthy again . . . in about five years.

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#168 2004Z06
December 20 2013, 09:14AM
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Naky wrote:

Here's a question for the stats guys, has pulling the goaltender ever worked for Eakins this year so far? Because I'm almost positive that it has not and that, even worse, it has more or less guaranteed a goal scored against us in almost every instance.

I only ask because I'm absolutely blown away that he has not quite clued in that his powerplay structure is so poorly implemented that it has lead to a staggering amount of SH goals and quality scoring chances against... and he thinks pulling the goalie for the extra attacker is still a good idea.

As far as I concerned, the third and fourth goals are entirely on Eakins.

No blame for J. Schultz or Devin Dubnyk here?

So it was Eakins that made that idiotic pass attempt to Hall instead of going the other way to the open man?

Really now?

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#169 nunyour
December 19 2013, 02:10PM
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I wonder why there are so few trades nowadays.There are a few teams that suck just like the oilers,Buf,Philly.etc.but no one trades anymore,they cant be waiting for help from the draft,if they are that will be a long wait.

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#170 Spider
December 19 2013, 04:03PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Can't remember...(seriously) who was in the Oilers net for the 8-2 victory?

I think it was G bear(poo).

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#171 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 19 2013, 04:51PM
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Kr55 wrote:

Any past team comparable that kept a guy like Lowe in a high up position during the entire streak of futility that we can look at to give us hope? I can't think of one... It's very possible the Oilers will break the 10 season playoff drought record with Lowe at the helm the entire time and beyond.

It's pretty hard to make comparisons like this given the weird structure of Oilers mgt.

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#172 Johnnydapunk
December 19 2013, 06:48PM
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Really useless fact but I have the same model of gloves that Sakic has except I got the long cuff version (proper old school) They were a bastard to break in but once they did, butter soft and comfortable :-)))

But the thing with the Avs is they built around goaltending and having a pretty decent core of players and the missing piece was Roy, which if the Avs never moved from Quebec, would have never happened as I could only imagine the craziness if Montreal and Quebec traded players.

I still think the Oil need to build from the back up, it's not the freewheeling 80s high scoring anymore and until they get that sorted, I don't think the maintenance men at the Rexall Coliseum will have to worry about finding space for banners anytime soon.

Man the Nords were one of the team I kindof liked as a kid, the Stastny brothers, Mario Gosselin, Michel Goulet, the blue dasher boards of the Le Colisee, oh happy days .....

As for predictions, if the Avs score early, lights out, if the Oil can put a few by, then we will end the night happy. I just don't trust Dubnyk after he lets in a goal as that's usually followed by many more.

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#173 D
December 19 2013, 07:31PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

1. Re: the young starlings

It has been and remains my opinion that there could be as many as 4 HHOF quality players on this roster, and like many before them they struggle or at least their teams struggle in their early years.

But the sakic/colorado scenario is more the exception rather than the rule.

All too often these player never get the supporting cast they need to become true contenders for - and in some cases winners of the Stanley cup.

And that latter - more common scenario is what seems to be developing here in EDM. And it is what i think is at the root of much of oilersnation frustration. To wit: it looks like supporting calvary/cast (mixed metaphor - actually chimeric metaphor - sorry) of defence, fierceness and goaltending will arrive too late and these stars will have moved elsewhere, been traded to make cap room, or developed very poor habits due to lousy coaching and a lack of veteran mentoring (not all stars are born top percentile leaders like Sakic was).

2. The game tonight has ominous notes going in:

Dubnyk in net is inexcusable. HE has had his chance and should not start unless there is an injury or a bac-to-back. But just as MAct couldnt bear trading Gagner to fill a need but rather signed him to a ridiculous contract he now can't admit defeat with starting the season with DD and yet again throws him into the breach. (i have no doubt that MAct Insisted on DD being played). And that he IS playing is a microcosm of what is wrong with this team's management.

Colorado i bet has had this date marked on the calendar since they got shellacked by the oil two weeks ago...

That said the avs have been struggling and may not respond as well as they may hope to.

AVs win - 4-3 DD lets in two very weak ones...

Serious Gord,

Enjoy reading your comments and also hearing them on the radio. My hope is that Dubnyk is starting because the Oil are trying to showcase him to move him to . . . anywhere.

If that's not the case, then Dubnyk playing tonight (or any night where Bryz or BTO are available) is mismanagement to the core.

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#174 Serious Gord
December 19 2013, 08:01PM
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D wrote:

Serious Gord,

Enjoy reading your comments and also hearing them on the radio. My hope is that Dubnyk is starting because the Oil are trying to showcase him to move him to . . . anywhere.

If that's not the case, then Dubnyk playing tonight (or any night where Bryz or BTO are available) is mismanagement to the core.

Thanks for the praise - I'm flattered.

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#175 Alsker
December 19 2013, 08:38PM
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Well that was inevitable, now to kill off the rest of Samwises major..

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#176 MattL
December 19 2013, 08:41PM
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Isn't that the same ref that was there for the no-goal Kings game when Yak city was born? Revenge on the Oil fans for making him look like a tool?

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#177 Alsker
December 19 2013, 08:59PM
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Physical play=GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLL....Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggeeee...

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#178 Tikkanese
December 20 2013, 01:16PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

I like the way ROY and Sakic did business leading up to the draft. "We're taking Mackinion that's it!"

Oilers have to consult with all the ghosts of Oilers past and Stevie Y before making the decision. They treat it like an episode of the Bachelor. So much drama and spectacle to determine who next they select to screw.

So you'd rather announce pre-draft your pick? Not having a chance at getting a trade offer you can't refuse?

So many possibilities can happen by not announcing your pick pre-draft. Even the team picking 2nd overall may be nervous about who you're taking and offer something great to swap picks. Not to mention forgoing all the free press coverage hilighting your team and the anticipation, excitement and hype built off of that?

I like how the Oilers and every other team does it.

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#179 season not played
December 19 2013, 01:43PM
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I thought it was a legitimate question.

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#180 Mikey
December 19 2013, 04:27PM
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michael wrote:

The Detroit argument is full of holes. They bought their way out of mediocrity. Pre salary cap they were one of the highest spending teams.

The Nordiques did not have the same option as the Red Wings or the Pens. They were saddled with a 66 cent dollar and a tax structure that in Quebec that ultimately led to their sale to Denver.

The Canadians and Leafs even at 66cents on the dollar were well heeled due to TV and advertising revenue.

The Oilers sold their best players because they could not compete in the pre salary cap era. After PUCK sold Wayne the teams dissolution was assured. It was inevitable. Once the players saw the money that was being thrown at marginal players the Oilers were done. They could not compete financially because PUCK was insolvent and bleeding red from his other interests. Its was only a matter of time before he sold the team. The EIG could not compete also. Thus the flaccid 90's occurred.

My point is that the QNordiques could have been very successful if they were able to compete on the same playing field as teams are required to do today. thus the push for a team back in QC. 7 teams in Canada produce near 54% of the HRR. The QN traded players partly due to money. And partly due to inability to sign Lindro's.

The Oilers need better compete from their current players.I hear all the naysayers. I agree we need to get bigger on the back end. We need to find a couple of bigger/heavier forwards. But what I do not hear is which of the other 29 other GM's is going to provide us with the players we need without gutting the current core of our team.

No pain. No gain. I hate losing. But what I hate more is the thought that trading an Eberle for a coke machine is going to bring us a CUP.

A naïve view.

We need to let the guy steering the ship some time to get this Titanic out of the way of the iceberg. MacT has been on the job less than 10 months. Its Christmas. Feel free to pray for a miracle. Feel free to rant. Chant Fire Klowe. Scream foul. Give up your season tickets. Boycott the games. Do whatever. It will not get any less painful.

Remember this when you look at those Nordique stats. They no longer have a team to complain about in the dead of December. We do. Just sayin.

You should check your records, becuase you will find Colorado was also a huge spender pre Cap. So your argument is null in void.

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#181 hall the time
December 19 2013, 04:33PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

If the Oilers were to deal one of their prized kids, it's an easy answer today to say that the Oil should keep Taylor Hall over Nail Yakupov. But, I think if you dig deeper, this is actually a tough decision. Yak's age-relative stats, with the exception of this year, are superior to Hall's. I've also noticed Yak winning pucks a few more battles along the boards and beating his checks off the wall a lot more as of late. I think he will be an excellent producer off of the cycle very soon.

I just wonder if we do trade Yak, in a few years we might be saying, wow, maybe we should have dealt Hall and kept Yak.

It would depend on what team we traded yak to.

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#182 Alsker
December 19 2013, 07:53PM
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Nice to see Lander and the 4th line so engaged.

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#183 PutzStew
December 19 2013, 08:18PM
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Hey Jason.

Why don't you mention the turn of round of the Nordiques and Penguins also coincide with the arrival of Pierre Page and Craig Fitzpatrick as GM's?

So here a few question for you Jason.

Let say Katz's plane crashes and leaves you the Oilers in his Will, Do you keep the current management as it is? What do you change, if you do decide to make changes? Why don't you make changes if you don't think changes need to be made.

Honestly I think you are to scare of the wrath of Klowe and Co so you blow off my questions.

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#184 Johnnydapunk
December 19 2013, 08:30PM
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So that's what happens when you hit Gags in the face, fair play.

The call as much as it annoys me, is not terribly wrong wrong as he did cross check him in the throat/face. I would have thought that a double minor would have been suitable as he did seem concerned right after that happened. I also know that "sympathy" is not a big deal, but most times when a player does something violent, they aren't checking up on them, seemingly trying to stop play.

I don't know what you would call what Stastny did as it wasn't really high sticking, and if you are all technical about what a cross check is, it's not that either, but it is something, maybe hooking ?

Maybe Gags should be getting a bar or two between that open space that he has between his visor and half itech shield thing.

Hopefully they can kill the rest of it and perhaps some on the fly line rotation could be good.

They got the first goal out of the way, and that usually means they can at least beat Varlamov, so fingers crossed, the result could be positive.

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#185 Serious Gord
December 19 2013, 09:03PM
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Hall just missed getting a serious injury on that hit. Crazy reckless way to play.

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December 19 2013, 09:17PM
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reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan) wrote:

Eakins Rocks!! Coach of the year finalist for sure.

It seems that no matter who's in point they turn it over. The formation needs to change. The difference between the goal and the stop for Dubnyk was that on the goal he buried himself in the crease and for the second breakaway he was right by the top of crease.

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#187 Quinn the Eskimo
December 20 2013, 12:00AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Had a Coors banquet to start the night then moved into bush mills Black bush single malt Irish whiskey - 3 fingers with about 1/2 teaspoon filtered water. Times two.

I do love my whiskey.

Daily dose: 3 fingers, filtered water. Desert island request: whiskey, whisky or single malt anything. Rum? Feh. You lose me on the Coors though. In Vancouver, we have choices in craft beers.

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#188 camdog
December 20 2013, 09:05AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Stauffer is hinting that the team is not 100% healthy.

That's what you should expect when a small recalcitrant team plays several heavyweights in succession.

And now the meet arguably the fiercest team in the league - the St. Louis blues.

What are the odds that by Sunday the team will be 0-6?

LOL I listen to Bob a lot, he says this every season.

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Serious Gord wrote:

Stauffer is hinting that the team is not 100% healthy.

That's what you should expect when a small recalcitrant team plays several heavyweights in succession.

And now the meet arguably the fiercest team in the league - the St. Louis blues.

What are the odds that by Sunday the team will be 0-6?

LOL I listen to Bob a lot, he says this every season.

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