IRRECONCILABLE DIFFERENCES UPDATE! TRADED

Lowetide
December 19 2013 05:00PM

 

It could happen as soon as today (the trade deadline is tonight at midnight, after that no deals until Christmas past), but it's clear Linus Omark is once again hell bent on bolting the Oilers organization. A marriage that has always been uneasy appears to have reached the point where reconciliation is impossible.

An article by Michael Baldwin in the Oklahoman spells things out with so many specifics the mind boggles. After reading his entry on Omark I am convinced this deal may come down tonight. An example:

  • Edmonton isn't a good fit for Omark. The Oilers have several young, highly skilled forwards. But his stock could be on the rise. A couple of teams reportedly are interested. The past two months with the Barons, he's shown noticeable improvement on the defensive end.

If the story is true, we might be hearing something in the next few hours. Mr. Baldwin suggests the return expected might be an AHL player or a pick, which makes sense. I also think there's a chance Edmonton might take back a useful player with a bad contract if that player addressed a current need (two-way winger, defense) if it was necessary. It is extremely likely Edmonton would prefer to lose the contract and further reduce the number of the 50-man list (now at 48). 

HE HAS NO VALUE, FOOL!

Well, there certainly has been a lot of disagreement about Omark, but he's played in the league and there may be a window of opportunity for him. Elliotte Friedman framed the issue nicely in this week's 30 Thoughts:

  • Edmonton is trying to trade AHLer Linus Omark, who deserves a shot at the NHL level and isn't going to get it with the Oilers. This is pure speculation on my part, but Buffalo makes sense. The Sabres are on a pace to score 137 goals. The last time a team scored fewer? Chicago in 1953-54, with 133 in 70 games. Twelve teams bettered that in lockout-shortened 1995. Last year? Eight. Omark's not a cure, but it's a sensible gamble, no?

Now, we'll see, but at least someone is talking about it being possible aside from Jon Willis and me. I think Omark has the ability to play in the NHL, but other clubs have their own prospects lined up and I'm not certain how many would be willing to take a chance on him. It only takes one, and chances are his agent has been working hard to make it happen.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Omark needs an expansion draft, but he'll have to make do with a trade. Which could come down tonight.

(Omark photo by Rob Ferguson, all rights reserved)

 

Update! Edmonton Oilers have traded Linus Omark to the Buffalo Sabres for a conditional 6th round pick in the 2014 draft. Sail on, Linus. Godspeed.

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#51 Harlie
December 19 2013, 10:28PM
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In a minor league way this kinda mirrors the Souray situation.

Hmm..who else has recently spoken out against the org?

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#52 john
December 19 2013, 10:39PM
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Weird thing is 30 years ago, NY Islanders and Oilers were burning up the NHL. NY won 4 cups then the following year 30 years ago Oilers took over as the next Dynasty. Now both are bottom 3 teams in NHL, when will their fortune reversed? Omark will be scoring in bunches, you will see, this team doesn't know how to fit players in their system. Now the Barons will start losing too with their top scorer gone. They will screw up Yakubov also, he got another -1 tonight, that's -25 for the worst in NHL. The poor guy deserve better. Time to change the coach, Eakins can't do it in this level, another short handed goal against tonight. All forwards with no defensemen on power plays in this league you are asking for trouble.

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#53 Quicksilver ballet
December 20 2013, 10:43AM
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michael wrote:

The other comparable for us long time Oilers fans would be Ray Whitney. he once upon a time was an Oiler. Only has player 1000+ games in the NHL and won a Cup and kills us all the time.

Doan? Ottawa? Is Hemsky done after the Christmas break? What is the return? Is it possible the Oilers trade Hemsky to the Rangers for Del Zotto?

If the deal is that this a lost season. If. Would you trade Gagner to Toronto for Jake Gardiner. Sam needs a change of scenery whether he believes it or not.He needs a fresh start without the ghosts of the past.

We all seem to forget the term, "Unless someone blows you away with an offer" when it comes to a trade these days. Many here are quick to write off any possibility.

With another top 3 coming in June, it presents another opportunity to try and upgrade the blueline. With that term in mind, the Oil might have access to what was perceived to be an untouchable. We might not be permitted access to a Shea Weber, but I'd sure explore a top pairing type in waiting like a Gudbranson, or take a chance on Myers. That top 3, along with maybe Marincin, could land you Myers. Sabres might be anxious to have the top 2 picks in this upcoming draft. You'd still have Yakupov and Klefbom left to try and get Gudbranson, maybe kick in one of those draft picks the Oilers get for Hemsky or Schultz.

Gagner, yes I would do that deal. Addition by subtraction in this case. Just get him gone, getting Gardiner would just be a bonus in doing so.

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#54 James
December 19 2013, 06:23PM
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Omark traded to Buffalo for a conditional 6th round pick according to the Sabres twitter.

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#55 billythebullet
December 19 2013, 07:22PM
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Omark = Swedish Schremp. Lots of talent, but for some reason just can't put it together at an nhl level. Best of luck to him in buffalo.

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#56 Josh Oiler
December 19 2013, 08:12PM
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Screw Linus Omark. Too soft anyways!

The Oilers are losing with skill! No Grit! No sandpaper, or whatever else you like to call it, just beat up your opponents and make it hard to play against!

ITS TIME TO PART WITH THE KIDS!!! Everyone is afraid to say it, but everyone knows it's true! Well I just said it. I'd part with half our team for a Milan Lucic.

We can't even win in the regular season. Never mind the playoff are won by grit!

Time to re-analyze and make some stinking Real Trades!!

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#57 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 19 2013, 08:42PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

If your only purpose here is to run persistently down the writers, I'll have to show you the door.

But the writers here make it so easy. :(

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#58 madjam
December 19 2013, 10:22PM
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They are playing much better , and got the consistency they wanted , just not the positive results . A decade of being a power and now it looks like a similar fate being a cellar dweller . From first to worst - seeing the best of Lowe and company , and now the worst for an equally long gated time . Six rings has expired ,no magic left there .

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#59 Stamsky Hemkos
December 19 2013, 10:39PM
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Another trade where we get nothing tangible in return. This team is nowhere close to competing with the big boys. There's no depth or contribution from their bottom 6. Their D would mostly be 6/7's on legitimate teams. The goaltending is questionable. Too many holes to fill. I can see this team tanking another 3 years before they start to assemble the right pieces.

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#60 outdoorzguy
December 20 2013, 10:07AM
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Wonger wrote:

MacTavish is a man of integrity. He promised Omark he would move him if things didn't work out in Edmonton and he kept his promise! Three spots open on 50 man roster - things will start to gey better very soon! MacTavish and Eakins are men of integrity! I believe in the Oilers because I believe in them.

"Things will start to get better soon"? Been hearing that for about the last dozen years!! Don't get too excited.

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#61 mlcselli
December 19 2013, 05:16PM
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Omark packaged with God knows who, might get us something to improve the Oilers now. Looking for a Christmas miracle.

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#62 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 19 2013, 05:28PM
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Rotten Ron wrote:

Omark could have been had by anyone for nothing thru waivers and it didnt happen.Despite what Dellow, Cult of hockey, boys on the bus or other corsi worshippers would have you believe he is much like the lowdown with lowetide, zero value.

He was waived very early in the season, when teams are still figuring out what their own prospects can do… basically no one gets picked up then.

If he manages to get waived again in the next 3 months he'll more than likely get picked up.

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#63 sizzler
December 19 2013, 06:32PM
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satan?

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#64 Bucknuck
December 19 2013, 06:33PM
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Rotten Ron wrote:

Omark could have been had by anyone for nothing thru waivers and it didnt happen.Despite what Dellow, Cult of hockey, boys on the bus or other corsi worshippers would have you believe he is much like the lowdown with lowetide, zero value.

Omark, you were fun to watch, but your words pissed me off. Good riddance.

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#65 Rotten Ron
December 19 2013, 07:13PM
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ubermiguel wrote:

Well now we know what Omark is worth, a conditional 6th round pick. It's fair to say many Edmonton fans over-valued him; the fans that thought we might be able to get an actual player in return.

Facts, reality and common sense have no place in the fantasy world of a Lowetide article.

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#66 Fresh Mess
December 19 2013, 07:44PM
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Oilers on the verge of sending a package consisting of Nick Schultz, Grebeskov, the conditional 6 rounder and the future considerations from the LaBarbera deal to LA Kings in exchange for Drew Doughty.

as per Odie.

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#67 Brian
December 19 2013, 07:49PM
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Bold moves continue .

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#68 pelhem grenville
December 20 2013, 06:06AM
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...finally

one less smurf...

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#69 D-Unit
December 20 2013, 07:57AM
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I hope he doesn't come back to hurt the Oilers, like the previous savior Robbie Schremp did.

Schremp still kills us every time he faces the Oilers.

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#70 Tikkanese
December 20 2013, 10:58AM
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Spydyr wrote:

A 6th round pick is not a miracle.

When most everyone said he wasn't worth anything and the fact that he cleared waivers, it is somewhat a miracle. Horcoff and Labarbera situations were similar and also somewhat miracles, if not all flat out miracles.

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#71 Rotten Ron
December 19 2013, 05:23PM
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Omark could have been had by anyone for nothing thru waivers and it didnt happen.Despite what Dellow, Cult of hockey, boys on the bus or other corsi worshippers would have you believe he is much like the lowdown with lowetide, zero value.

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#72 **
December 20 2013, 12:32AM
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Josh Oiler wrote:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? IS NOBODY SCREENING FOR IDIOTS LIKE THIS? I mean c'mon, Does Fresh Mess (if that's even his real name) think that Dean Lombardi is smoking Crack Cocaine?

Maybe Fresh Mess is smoking the rock? Look here Dude: Grebeshkov and Nick SCHULTZ and those conditionals are all garbage for the Kings? And who?? Drew Doughty! I mean Drew Doughty!!!!!! Please!!!!!! Go and watch Lacrosse or something!!

I will explain this as delicately as I possibly can:

Fresh mess is what we in the internetz call a troll, a hideous entity who feeds off poor naive souls like you by laying bait that is designed to push your buttons and elicit an angry response.

That's about it I guess. Welcome to the internetz.

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#73 Tikkanese
December 20 2013, 09:22AM
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MacT the miracle worker?

Got assets for the impossible to trade Horcoff, Omark and Labarbera. The last two who both cleared waivers, yet he was still able to trade not much later for assets. Miracles.

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#74 Oiltimer
December 20 2013, 10:27AM
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real hard to separate the truly witty sarcasm from the simple innocent. Where is the f**in'hockey team !!!!!!!!!

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#75 Ducey
December 20 2013, 10:36AM
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Spydyr wrote:

A 6th round pick is not a miracle.

If the condition is met, it will be.

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#76 Mikey
December 19 2013, 05:16PM
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Lowetide wrote:

There's a lot of Weber's out there! Maybe there's a Karl Weber!

Omark for future considerations?

I'd prefer Yanik Weber, as he is somewhat of a known commodity. Whereas Karl Weber, has not yet been found.

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#77 gr8one
December 19 2013, 05:16PM
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If Buffalo is the destination and we are getting a player back I'd really be interested in seeing how Luke Adam might fit in with some of our skill guys.

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?6595

Would that be fair value from both teams perspective, both players perhaps needing a fresh start?

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#78 vetinari
December 19 2013, 06:39PM
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"Conditional" 6th rounder-- what's it conditional on? A certain number of games on the Buffalo roster? Points? Games played? We reduce our number of contracts on the 50 man list but it would be nice to at least say that we turned a former fourth round pick into an actual asset...

EDIT: games played...

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#79 **
December 19 2013, 07:06PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

So, Omark gets a chance in Buffalo. Good for him. Perhaps now we'll see what all the fuss is about, although I highly doubt it.

It's all up to him now.

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#80 Comrade GT
December 19 2013, 10:14PM
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Love those one goal loses.

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#81 g bearpoo
December 20 2013, 08:29AM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

If your only purpose here is to run persistently down the writers, I'll have to show you the door.

Go follow your Flames loser - McGrattan rocks!!!!! You don't!!!

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#82 Zamboni Driver
December 20 2013, 09:03AM
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I haven't been able to sleep.

Linus was by far my favourite 8-goals in the NHL, second line AHL player the Oilers have ever had.

At least now that 6th round pick will bring the Oilers that help on D that someone way smarter than I was suggesting yesterday.

Other 6th round picks:

Ben Betker John McCarron

Interesting info found while doing "research" on Wikipedia. The Sabres drafted a guy named: Linus Ullmark last year.

Funny.

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#83 Romulus' Apotheosis
December 19 2013, 05:27PM
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gr8one wrote:

If Buffalo is the destination and we are getting a player back I'd really be interested in seeing how Luke Adam might fit in with some of our skill guys.

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?6595

Would that be fair value from both teams perspective, both players perhaps needing a fresh start?

Interesting pick. Adam would be nice add to the depth chart.

That's probably about the right zone… a player leaning out the prospect door but not really a full time NHL option… tweener that is maybe on the outs of a team and a bit long in the tooth…

A Horak type guy.

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#84 Ralphus
December 19 2013, 06:15PM
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Rotten Ron wrote:

Omark could have been had by anyone for nothing thru waivers and it didnt happen.Despite what Dellow, Cult of hockey, boys on the bus or other corsi worshippers would have you believe he is much like the lowdown with lowetide, zero value.

Ha Ha.You forgot to mention anyone from hockeybuzz to, you know bring "credibility" to the show.

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#85 John
December 19 2013, 06:23PM
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Right now I would take a trade Gagne bring up Omark and play him on the wing with Arcebello move.

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#86 the big GRIGowski
December 19 2013, 06:24PM
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Reports of Omark to Sabres for conditional 6th rounder.

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#87 Bigger Melon - Pouzar or Klima?
December 19 2013, 07:46PM
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The kid is too talented to be buried in the AHL. He might be a good fit in Buffalo.

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#88 MessyEH!
December 20 2013, 02:23AM
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I HOPE that Omark does well in Buffalo. A team that is trying to rebuild correctly. Fire sale all your useful pieces for futures.

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#89 Omark
December 20 2013, 02:37AM
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Loweblows wrote:

Eakins the rookie is learning how to teach the power play to rookie players. Sounds like a recipe for success.

You missed about rookie Bold Moves and useless kilo!!

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#90 Death Metal Nightmare
December 20 2013, 04:19AM
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please get rid of all these players next:

Jordan Eberle / Sam Gagner / / Ryan Smyth / Jeff Petry / Philip Larsen / Anton Belov / Andrew Ference / Ryan Jones / Nick Schultz / Will Acton / Corey Potter / Jesse Joensuu

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#91 Rotten Ron
December 20 2013, 10:28AM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

If your only purpose here is to run persistently down the writers, I'll have to show you the door.

run persistently

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#92 Josh Oiler to G Bear (BIG POO in his pants)
December 20 2013, 11:16AM
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** wrote:

I will explain this as delicately as I possibly can:

Fresh mess is what we in the internetz call a troll, a hideous entity who feeds off poor naive souls like you by laying bait that is designed to push your buttons and elicit an angry response.

That's about it I guess. Welcome to the internetz.

G BEAR(poo) is what we call an IDIOT! He's so stupid he don't even know he's stupid! Duh, that's about it I guess! Duh!

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#93 Fresh Mess
December 20 2013, 12:11PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Thanks bud! Couldn't have said it better myself. G bear (poo....in pants)! lmao! Go Oilers!

If you're really me then tell me what I'm thinking of having for lunch.....can't do it? That's what I thought.

Just got a text from my source. Says MacT working on a minor league deal. Looks like Ryan Hamilton will be bundled with Curtis Hamilton and sent to Hamilton. In return OKC receives former NCAA sensation F Ed Strathcona.

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#94 Bob Cob
December 20 2013, 01:02PM
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Glad Omark is finally gone, the only people who wanted him here were the same people that thought Robbie Schremp had game.

Good riddance Linus, enjoy the AHL!

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#95 Zarny
December 20 2013, 01:07PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We all seem to forget the term, "Unless someone blows you away with an offer" when it comes to a trade these days. Many here are quick to write off any possibility.

With another top 3 coming in June, it presents another opportunity to try and upgrade the blueline. With that term in mind, the Oil might have access to what was perceived to be an untouchable. We might not be permitted access to a Shea Weber, but I'd sure explore a top pairing type in waiting like a Gudbranson, or take a chance on Myers. That top 3, along with maybe Marincin, could land you Myers. Sabres might be anxious to have the top 2 picks in this upcoming draft. You'd still have Yakupov and Klefbom left to try and get Gudbranson, maybe kick in one of those draft picks the Oilers get for Hemsky or Schultz.

Gagner, yes I would do that deal. Addition by subtraction in this case. Just get him gone, getting Gardiner would just be a bonus in doing so.

Pick could be 1-8th. I'd want more than Myers but that is exactly the right kind of thinking.

MacT needs to think big. And I wouldn't assume anything about access. A lot depends on circumstance.

If Nsh tanks I'd call about Weber and Jones. I'd call Chi about Keith or Seabrook. If Ott tanks I'd call about Karlsson. I'd facetime with Bergevin every week to hear about Subban's contract. If Pit goes out early in the playoffs I'd call about Letang. Same thing with LA or Det with Doughty or Kronwall. I'd call StL about Pietrangelo too.

Yak/Eberle and top 3 pick might get you some conversations especially if the pick is Ekblad.

If not start working your way down the list. McDonagh, Girardi, Phaneuf, Ekman-Larsson, Beauchemin, Yandle, Brodin, Campbell, Voynov, Byfuglien, Bieksam, Ehrhoff, Coburn, Bogosian. This is probably MacT's sweet spot.

A recent pick like Grudbranson doesn't gain you much over using the pick.

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#96 Dave240
December 19 2013, 05:24PM
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How about Wolfgang Weber? He's known for scoring big goals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUTDboDjmM

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#97 Kevin
December 19 2013, 07:01PM
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you think OIL bras could have been a little more proactive and creative and since Buffalo was a taker of Omark- you think we could have package him up with something else to maybe target, say Marcus Foligno and address some grit and size issues. We can't seem to draft these types of players. Another 1st overall pick will just get us another $40 million dollar smurf.

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#98 G-Unit
December 19 2013, 10:48PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Eakins the rookie is learning how to teach the power play to rookie players. Sounds like a recipe for success.

Not everything can be blamed on coaching, but with the talented players on the ice we should be dynamite on the pp. And no more Smitty on the PK while the special teams are up for chat

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#99 Wonger
December 20 2013, 08:35AM
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MacTavish is a man of integrity. He promised Omark he would move him if things didn't work out in Edmonton and he kept his promise! Three spots open on 50 man roster - things will start to gey better very soon! MacTavish and Eakins are men of integrity! I believe in the Oilers because I believe in them.

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#100 Wonger
December 20 2013, 08:55AM
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camdog wrote:

Didn't Omark demand the trade?

Yes, but MacTavish did not have to trade him. If Taylor Hall demands a trade today MacT does not have to trade him. Hall for Lucic, Chara McQuaid and Iginla....hhhhhmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!

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