THE BOYS UNDER THE BUS

Robin Brownlee
December 22 2013 12:06PM

The latest lump in the truckload of coal the Edmonton Oilers have been shoveling under the Christmas trees of their fans for eight seasons came in Saturday's 6-0 drubbing at the hands of the St. Louis Blues. What an ugly, ugly scene it was.

On a utterly forgettable night for a fallen franchise, scenes from Hockey Night in Canada's telecast showed sections of empty seats with five minutes to play with fans long gone to the parking lot, president of hockey operations Kevin Lowe fidgeting with his cellphone and, finally, an Oiler jersey laying on the ice, tossed there by one of the paying customers.

With HNIC's After Hours segment waiting for Taylor Hall to emerge from a dressing room that remained closed for 10 minutes after the game, the CBC panel filled with a post-mortem on the Oilers, losers of six straight games and dead in the water at 11-24-3.

In the room, goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov, who was supposed to have been a sideshow but instead finds himself having joined one, talked about how the Oilers deserved to be booed. Jordan Eberle talked about being sick of what's happening here. Coach Dallas Eakins, less than half a full season into his tenure behind the bench, said much the same thing.

The blah, blah, blah we've heard before, but that shot of the Oiler jersey cast on the ice like so much trash sticks with me. I've never seen that before, and I've seen a lot in the old rink on Gretzky Drive.

THE WORST OF TIMES?

With the venom being spewed by rightfully frustrated fans and the empty seats I'm seeing, despite more than 300 straight official sell-outs at Rexall Place in the books, this is clearly the worst of times since the oh-so-forgettable early 1990s. Back then, owner Peter Pocklington was selling off what was left of the five-time Stanley Cup champions and letting the rest of the team die on the vine. Lots of crowds under 10,000 back then.

I'm not sure which era was worse – the 1992-93 team captained by current GM Craig MacTavish went 26-50-8 for 60 points – but arguing that is setting the bar woefully low. What I do know is nobody with a functioning brain expected much from the raft of mediocre players on that roster. The expectations now are different, and should be, with the likes of Hall, Eberle and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins on this edition of the team – any one of them would have been the best player on that pitiful 1992-93 team.

Edmonton's management and its spinners have been selling hope for four seasons since the tear-it-down rebuild "officially" began. Fans, obviously loyal to a fault, have been buying in, filling the rink, purchasing souvenirs, parking and over-priced beer. All to watch a team that's won just 45 of its last 123 home games.

Now, paid for or not, empty seats. And no, as team president Patrick LaForge suggested with a straight face, it's not "brutal weather." Now, that jersey thrown on the ice. Was it deposited there by an over-served patron in a fit of drunken defiance? A long-time season ticket holder sick of what they've seen? Both? No matter, it's trouble.

OVER TO YOU, BOSS

I don't know if we'll ever see attendance sink to the levels of the ugly 1990s – I doubt it – but unless something changes drastically, and in a hurry, we're going to see more empty seats, more jerseys on the ice and, worse, more of the kind of indifference Pocklington cultivated as owner.

Drastic change means starting at the top of hockey operations. That means the dirty deed falls to owner Daryl Katz, who has a management group and coaching and scouting staffs filled with old friends and old Oilers. With his initial investment in the team already showing a tidy profit, according to the latest values published for NHL teams, will Katz be so inclined? Not today or tomorrow – it makes no sense – but this off-season?

I can see an argument for MacTavish and Eakins getting more time to do their jobs. I see no such case for managers, coaches or scouts who have been collecting pay cheques for all or most of this eight-year stretch of futility and frustration. The names we know, and Lowe is the obvious starting point.

Will Katz make those calls this off-season? Will he tell his friends that it's time for them to move along? Will he shake their hands and wish them well? If Katz, for whatever reason, isn't inclined to do that – in a city and for a fan base that's committed to building him a new downtown arena – in the name of finally delivering on the hope he's been selling, what's the message?

Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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#51 K_Mart
December 22 2013, 12:35PM
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Hard to fathom how bad this team really is.

As for the up arrows being spewed out by JW, LT, and Tyler Dellow... Take a look at how we've stacked up against western teams this year compared to last year... We are every bit as bad.

Sure, when you include the games against the east our scoring chance numbers are up a bit, our corsi and Fenwick are showing improvement... But we didn't get to play against eastern teams last year.

We are every bit as bad this year as we were last year. It's not the coaching, it is the mix of players on the roster.

When you have all your top forwards on the ice playing the exact same role, it will never work.

I'm a patient guy, and at this point I really don't care if we keep tanking. Ekblad, Nurse, and Mcdavid can end up being the future. Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Jultz, and Yak can play the roles of depth veterans for all I care.

If the right deal comes along for one of Eberle, Yak, Hall, Nuge, Jultz, Hemsky, Gags, or Perron, then by all means make the trade, but only if it makes sense.

What's one more year of losing if it means getting Mcdavid, the kind of player that comes along every 5-10 years?

Times like these will reveal the true character of our young core. If they dig deep and fight tooth and nail right to the bitter end of this season great. If they start to whine and complain, and start asking to be traded then their true colors will show and I say ship em out.

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#52 james_dean
December 22 2013, 12:55PM
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Monique wrote:

Finally someone calling out Katz, If you were beside me I'd suck those big balls

Funniest $hit ive seen yet. Lol

happy holidays

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#53 Robin Brownlee
December 22 2013, 03:18PM
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@Ed in PV

Like I wrote, I'm still of the mind that MacTavish and Eakins need more time in their roles. I understand the frustration and the desire to gut the whole works, but that doesn't make sense in the middle of the season when there's hockey business to conduct.

I don't see Katz relieving Lowe of his duties in the middle of the season. I'm not sure he'll do it in the off-season, either.

If that unlikely move was to happen now, Katz could start by bringing in a person in Lowe's place the way Columbus and Calgary did with Davidson and Burke and have them work with MacTavish and Eakins the rest of this season, then make a call on their performance and future, or lack of same, with the team.

If that means a new GM and a new coach for next season, so be it. One thing's for sure, the assistant coaches and the scouting staffs, both pro and amateur, also have to be looked at between now and then.

If Lowe remains at the top of the executive, even if he's somewhat out of the spotlight, I don't think fans are going to accept that the front office and the coaching and scouting staffs are going to be assessed objectively and without favours to old friends and teammates. Change has to start at the top.

Only Katz can make that happen.

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#54 2004Z06
December 22 2013, 06:51PM
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Renegade wrote:

I like how some people keep saying play bad for the first over all pick.... hmm... how has that worked out for us so far?

Only franchise in professional sports whose fan base celebrates failure and futility and sells out 300 straight games. When's the next first overall pick draft party?

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#55 Rod from Viking
December 22 2013, 06:56PM
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MMAX wrote:

Can't wait to hear what Stauffer has to say on his show.

"Oiler's Now" has turned into a brutal propaganda machine for Katz and Co, I used to have a lot of time for Bob when he had his "Inside Sports" he continually called out Oiler Management and coaching, and then he used his show to convince his trusting listeners that Katz was good, EIG was no longer needed. I don't expect him to lose his job but quit finding new ways to justify this mess. He never say's my tweets or texts on air since I asked him if Taylor Hall's mom was on a tree planting crew, he has no sense of ha ha.

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#56 ColourMeImpressed
December 22 2013, 07:02PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

"Oiler's Now" has turned into a brutal propaganda machine for Katz and Co, I used to have a lot of time for Bob when he had his "Inside Sports" he continually called out Oiler Management and coaching, and then he used his show to convince his trusting listeners that Katz was good, EIG was no longer needed. I don't expect him to lose his job but quit finding new ways to justify this mess. He never say's my tweets or texts on air since I asked him if Taylor Hall's mom was on a tree planting crew, he has no sense of ha ha.

What kind of naifs are you guys?

You guys seriously thought CHED, the station awarded Oilers broadcast rights, would ever criticize the Oilers?

Their job is to fluff the team's dick, that's all. 1260 doesn't have the rights, so it criticizes a bit more, but not so much as to lose any chance at the next bid.

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#57 He Who Knows
December 22 2013, 01:29PM
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Way to go Robin! I hope you start a viral campaign against those dummies pretending to be professionals. Kevin Lowe sucks the hind banana.

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#58 Tom Barrett
December 22 2013, 11:35PM
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Part way through the third period, Saturday, one of the other long-suffering season ticket holders who sits behind me suggested we should all bring paper bags to the Jets game, Monday, to put on if we tank again. All of us who were still left noticed that Oiler jersey on the ice as well. A very provocative and expensive statement. It will be interesting to see if a loss to the Jets brings more jerseys.

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#59 Gk1980
December 22 2013, 02:23PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

While you have stated the above opinion in the past robin, I think this is the first time you have done so so explicitly in a post on ON. And I thank you for it.

Now it's time for other posters - Lowetide, Willis, Wanye et al to follow suit. An editorial in the sun and journal would be nice.

So too a full pager in the sun or journal by the readers/posters on ON. (How expensive could that be? Does anyone read the paper anymore - other than when they left their phone in the car and are waiting In line to order their egg mcmuffin?)

And why wait until the end of the year? Toronto dumped Burke at the beginning of last season - dumping Lowe right now - TODAY - takes the heat off at least until after the all star break - carnivores like myself and others in the oiler fanbase will be occupied with feasting on lowe's carcass at least until then.

I'll pitch in $20 for a full page article in the sun paper. Who would be the best person to write it up and represent the fans? Let's start this revolution! It would start a media frenzy! Viva la fans!!!

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#60 Quicksilver ballet
December 22 2013, 02:28PM
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nick wrote:

Unfortunately fellows, Mr. Weber has a No Trade Clause which means he controls where he goes. Do you really think he would take a trade to Edmonton? Wake up now your dream is over. Danny Heatley wouldn't take it and there is no chance that Weber would ever end up in Edmonton

Thanks for dropping by for this drive by fruiting Nick.

May want to think/check first before speaking. Shea Weber does not have a no movement clause.

2 shots for a quarter Nick. Anything else you want to know/me to correct for you?

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#61 YAKCITY64
December 22 2013, 04:26PM
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Brownlee AMAZING article. But truly do any of you intelligent fans think that any player would purposely put himself in this situation with this current management group. I really truly think that if you change things from top to bottom and have a real plan of where you are going Then and Only then will free agents even think of coming to edmonton.

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#62 Butters
December 22 2013, 05:56PM
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MMAX wrote:

Can't wait to hear what Stauffer has to say on his show.

He will say' "We get that you are pissed off, and you should be." Then he will try and stir up indignation about Taylor Hall not making the Olympic Team.

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#63 KenL
December 22 2013, 08:13PM
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Has the picture of the jersey on the ice been tweeted? I hope it's gone viral and the entire Oilers organization, from management to players, finally see how pissed fans are this season.

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#64 Jay Gray
December 22 2013, 12:30PM
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I find myself saying a couple times a year 'this is a low point'

Couldn't be any more factual than today. Kudos to the man who threw his jersey on the ice. I nearly did that exact thing at a game I attended last year, but my frugal nature took over and I still have my #19 J. Schultz hanging in my closet.

Mac-T and Eakins need to be given time to sort this out, but in the meantime I believe it's time to go in another direction as far as the scouting staff is concerned. The shine has wore off on the 'Magnificent Bastard'.

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#65 Greg the Hammer Valentine
December 22 2013, 01:11PM
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@K_Mart

What makes you think coaching is not part of the problem as well? Sure, the mix of player is not ideal, but this is by no means a 29th place team. I think the coaching has been every bit as bad as the GMing and the goaltending and everything else. There is so many things wrong with this franchise, that I can't see playoffs next year either.

RB, best Oilers related read of 2013.

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#66 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 22 2013, 01:38PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Good read RB.

This team is a bloody mess!

I’m at a loss as to where you would even start to fix this?

Defense, Offense, Goal ,Owner, POHO , Management, Coach , Assistant Coach’s, Amateur scouts, Pro Scouts………….

It’s all a nightmare, I mean, where do you start fixing this?

Start at the top like any good organization should. Bring in a Good and Proven hockey person and let that be the guide. No job is safe.

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#67 Yaz
December 22 2013, 01:55PM
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Mr Katz needs to get an outside opinion of this mess( I know it looks obvious but how far do you go).Until this is done he should freeze all player transactions. You cannot deal from weakness. I am really concerned that Lowe et al will make a bunch more panic moves and we'll have dug the hole deeper( see Smid giveaway). Without a doubt when he has some outside advice he needs to take control of his investment and begin the cleanup from the top down. I haven't lost faith in the owner and his love for the team and the return to glory but his people that he chose to get there have badly let him down. I am pretty sure Rexall Inc doesn't work that way in their business model, the same structure with skilled people needs to be applied to the Oilers.

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#68 Quicksilver ballet
December 22 2013, 01:59PM
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@Jay

This is totally off the record Jay, but I'm 110% in agreement with you. I often bite my lip in hopes of eluding the cyber swirley that often occurs when I let beetlejuice out of his cage/ my latest Weber proposal.

Weber is the big fish the Oilers desperately need, but that's just between you and me, eh, nudge nudge wink wink, say na more.

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#69 Gerald R. Ford
December 22 2013, 03:39PM
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Props to the fan who threw the jersey on the ice. I hope it stings Katz and K-Lowe's 6-ring circus as much as it does the rest of us to see something like that. Ugly, ugly moment, but, maybe that guy will be remembered as our Rosa Parks someday.

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#70 6 ring circus
December 22 2013, 05:35PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Don't just burn 'em.

Contact Kids Up Front Edmonton - send a kid to the game (it might even be what they want for Christmas...poor kids).

Spyder was referring to burning the jersey ,not the tickets ,I already donate to various charities,I want the seats to be empty, maybe other ticket holders can join me in a boycott and having a half empty Rexall ,will hopefully get ownership to listen.

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#71 6 ring circus
December 22 2013, 06:17PM
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MMAX wrote:

Can't wait to hear what Stauffer has to say on his show.

Stauffer is part of the Oilers propaganda machine,to me he's the same as Laforge,they both are trying to preach patience and that the rebuild is working,except the fans have had enough of there bull sh*t and can see right through them,they would've made good snake oil salesman.

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#72 TonyT
December 22 2013, 07:08PM
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I believe the time for fantasy trades and advanced stats are over. Jersey throwing incident was a game changer. I'll be at the game tomorrow, if the Oilers fail to show up, "Fire Lowe" or whomever chants should the chant for the rest of the game. At the end of the game jerseys should be on the ice. We were promised "bold" not an evaluation of assets. I'm not saying to lose a trade but it's clear this team (as it is currently constructed) will never progress to a level where we are getting "full value". Till that day comes, I expect organized rebellion.

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#73 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 22 2013, 11:22PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

None of you will want to hear this, especially given the state of frustration fans are in now, but fixating on Bob Stauffer and the people at 630 CHED is misplacing your anger. They are not the problem.

As far as NHL rightsholders go, 630 CHED is actually far more critical of the team they cover than most stations. You don't have to believe me, but I'm telling you it's so -- and I'm doing it as somebody who is on the air twice a week on a competing station.

If you want to say some of the edge -- even a lot of it -- has been taken off Bob's criticism of the team since he signed on with them, that's fair ball. He is an employee of the team and he can't go after the Oilers, be it management, coaches or the organization in general, as he would if he was still in his old gig at TEAM 1260. You cannot do it in your workplace and he cannot do it in his.

The problem is way higher up the food chain. Going after Stauffer and the radio crew solves nothing. They are doing their jobs.

Excellent Point. May I counter that bob and the ched gang are viable targets because they are part of the Oiler group and this city has has enough of being a non entity in the eyes of the NHL. Being the pr/marketing arm makes them far game for the vitriol. Plus bob does like the use of hyperbole which is basically lying to make things seem better. Only the Octane girls are safe from scorn in my eyes. They actually work hard.

However you are 100% correct that they have nothing to do with the issues they are just the flunkie messangers.

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#74 John Kirsch
December 22 2013, 04:01PM
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@nick

Weber won't help this group we need more than 1 player (I don't care if it were Lemiuex or Gretzky), besides there is no way he would come to Edmonton.

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#75 Sammy27
December 22 2013, 05:54PM
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So Ryan Jones is knocked unconscious, His level of play now matches many of the other players.

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#76 outdoorzguy
December 22 2013, 07:18PM
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@TonyT

"If the Oilers fail to show up". They haven't showed up for a dozen years. Why keep the door open just a bit? If your serious, you should react regardless of how the team plays tomorrow night. I hate it when fans and media just keep that glimmer of hope in the back of their mind. So if the Oilers win tomorrow...things are good again? The relationship is back on? At this point you're either in or out. Make up your mind. Vote your conscience!!!

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#77 ColourMeImpressed
December 22 2013, 07:50PM
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Lofty wrote:

Oil have played two more games than Buffalo. If the sabers win both games (which against the flames and Ottawa, is possible,) they'll be tied for last. That's where the current day oilers are most comfortable... DFL

Let's be honest, though.

The odds of the Sabers winning two games in a row compared to the Oilers have to be at least like, 1 to 1.

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#78 2004Z06
December 23 2013, 02:39AM
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JJ wrote:

One comment I have to make.. Jerseys are so expensive, I wouldn't say it would even have to be something like that to send a message.

Oiler shirts, Oiler mitts, Oiler tuques would get the message across as well with a far lower waste in value. As long as it's not hats as that would send a wrong message of celebration (hat trick).

Just something to think about before throwing $200 of your hard earned money over the edge!

Throwing something of value is entirely the point! It sends the message that a fan paying hard earned money is fed up and would rather part with 200 bucks than watch this debacle continue to unfold! Throwing a 5 dollar Oilers mitten sends no message at all.

The real message would be to have half the building empty against the Jets. Lost parking, merchandise, concession, alcohol revenue and the image on tv of a normally sold out building half empty would send a clear message.

Unfortunately someone will always park their ass in a seat at Rexall.

The jersey on the ice should be the tip of the iceberg.

And no one is asking anyone to give up their season tickets. Just boycott one damn game.

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#79 camdog
December 23 2013, 06:42AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

None of you will want to hear this, especially given the state of frustration fans are in now, but fixating on Bob Stauffer and the people at 630 CHED is misplacing your anger. They are not the problem.

As far as NHL rightsholders go, 630 CHED is actually far more critical of the team they cover than most stations. You don't have to believe me, but I'm telling you it's so -- and I'm doing it as somebody who is on the air twice a week on a competing station.

If you want to say some of the edge -- even a lot of it -- has been taken off Bob's criticism of the team since he signed on with them, that's fair ball. He is an employee of the team and he can't go after the Oilers, be it management, coaches or the organization in general, as he would if he was still in his old gig at TEAM 1260. You cannot do it in your workplace and he cannot do it in his.

The problem is way higher up the food chain. Going after Stauffer and the radio crew solves nothing. They are doing their jobs.

Regardless Stauffer's opinion on the team changed the day he became a member of the organization. He regularly speaks as though he is privy to details others are not. He is no longer a member of the media, he is public relations for the Oilers, and deserves the criticism he receives. If he was an independent thinker like the writers at Oilersnation such as yourself, then I would agree but he is not, he speaks for the organization, he speaks for Katz!

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#80 The Real Scuba Steve
December 22 2013, 01:32PM
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james_dean wrote:

Funniest $hit ive seen yet. Lol

happy holidays

I hope for Robin's sake I hope Monique is not a guy.

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#81 Ed in PV
December 22 2013, 02:08PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

While you have stated the above opinion in the past robin, I think this is the first time you have done so so explicitly in a post on ON. And I thank you for it.

Now it's time for other posters - Lowetide, Willis, Wanye et al to follow suit. An editorial in the sun and journal would be nice.

So too a full pager in the sun or journal by the readers/posters on ON. (How expensive could that be? Does anyone read the paper anymore - other than when they left their phone in the car and are waiting In line to order their egg mcmuffin?)

And why wait until the end of the year? Toronto dumped Burke at the beginning of last season - dumping Lowe right now - TODAY - takes the heat off at least until after the all star break - carnivores like myself and others in the oiler fanbase will be occupied with feasting on lowe's carcass at least until then.

Agree, getting rid of Lowe asap is step 1. I understand that you can't fire everyone mid season as you need coaches to coach, scout to scout etc. But the organization should be able to function without the VP of Hockey Operations for a few months. When Lowe was GM they didn't have a GM of Hockey Operations, which makes we wonder if the position is even needed at all.

Firing Lowe asap will send a strong message to the organization that needs to be sent.

Thank you Brownlee I am glad someone in the Edmonton sports media has stepped up and stated the obvious.

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#82 Todd
December 22 2013, 02:46PM
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Gk1980 wrote:

I'll pitch in $20 for a full page article in the sun paper. Who would be the best person to write it up and represent the fans? Let's start this revolution! It would start a media frenzy! Viva la fans!!!

Someone should start a kickstarter campaign for a full page ad in the Journal. I'll pay $50 I promise, send me the link.

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#83 nullterm
December 22 2013, 02:47PM
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I'd chip in for a full page reprint of this article. Make it happen Nation!

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#84 Butters
December 22 2013, 02:59PM
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i'd keep Laforge. That guy has been awesome at selling us turd sandwiches, at a premium no less. Oddly, it is only now we are starting to realize we were buying turd sandwiches all along.

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#85 Batfink
December 22 2013, 03:13PM
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Guys, I'm sorry to say that the ship that was the Weber deal has sailed with the trade of the kingpin of the deal, Linus Omark. Much gnashing of the teeth in Nashville, I know, but I think they'll get through it.

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#86 Butters
December 22 2013, 04:30PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

1. What a wonderful Christmas present for Ralph Krueger and his wife! She was in the room when McTavish fired Ralph by skype.

2. Obvious now why Bryzgalov hasn't put any paint on his mask.

3. Katz thinks Edmonton needs the Oilers. We don't need the Oilers. We need NHL hockey. When Katz went to Seattle, city counsel should have sent a delegation to Phoenix, Tampa and Carolina. Wouldn't it be great to see a REAL NHL team playing in the new arena!

4. Yakupov is an "Alexander Daigle" style bust. Minus 26: numbers do not lie. I would try to trade him to Toronto or Ottawa for a package that includes their first round pick this year. Maybe they saw him light it up in the OHL and they can be sucked in to thinking he will make it in the NHL. Unlike Daigle, Yakupov will not suffer the indignity of dragging his sorry butt around the league as a 3-4 line player. He will eventually high-tail it back to the KHL where his selfish, one way style of play will be much appreciated.

5. Lowe, McTavish and Eakins are going nowhere this year. Those three and Katz really like each other, because they are all basically the same person. They don't need any help, they have got it all figured out. As long as these four arrogant jackasses are in charge, this franchise is going nowhere.

I CWD this one but only because of point 4. I think Yak is struggling with the "system" as are a lot of other players. I think the system has to suit the players, not the other way around.

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#87 G-Unit
December 23 2013, 12:37AM
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@Loyal Oil

I hate soccer, but maybe the way that one teams fans all stand up and look away from the game at the same time would get the message across. We are top ten in payroll with 3 first overall picks in the roster. Enough excuses management

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#88 Serious Gord
December 22 2013, 01:20PM
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While you have stated the above opinion in the past robin, I think this is the first time you have done so so explicitly in a post on ON. And I thank you for it.

Now it's time for other posters - Lowetide, Willis, Wanye et al to follow suit. An editorial in the sun and journal would be nice.

So too a full pager in the sun or journal by the readers/posters on ON. (How expensive could that be? Does anyone read the paper anymore - other than when they left their phone in the car and are waiting In line to order their egg mcmuffin?)

And why wait until the end of the year? Toronto dumped Burke at the beginning of last season - dumping Lowe right now - TODAY - takes the heat off at least until after the all star break - carnivores like myself and others in the oiler fanbase will be occupied with feasting on lowe's carcass at least until then.

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#89 Clarkenstein
December 22 2013, 02:35PM
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First time I've agreed with Brownlee in forever! People....stop going to the bloody games!!! I know you've paid for those tickets but wake up and stop being abused!! Start tomorrow with WPG in town. If 6000 asses were in the seats it would be a start!!! Katz the Oil hockey fan is so disappointed in you yet you are oblivious to this up in your Ivory tower! Do u think a bunch of old hockey players would want to hang with you if you were selling shoes??? It says something about the fabric of a person when he has to buy his friends! And by the way, take off those "Bono" glasses and lose the 80's hair! Man up!

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#90 Kr55
December 22 2013, 03:10PM
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Please don't let up on writing articles like this. The management deserved to be called out, they have deserved it for years. The losing culture in this team starts at the top with Lowe who feels he is entitled to his job because we was lucky enough to play on teams with Gretz and Mess. He hasn't deserved his position for a very long time now based on his performance. His presence is stopping the Oilers from getting qualified smart hockey minds in the important spots in the organization.

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#91 NsxZero
December 23 2013, 08:16AM
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Wow Jones actually found the guy that threw his jersey on the ice. Ladies and Gentleman our hero, Curtis Goyetche.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/12/22/jones-oilers-fan-shows-frustration-by-throwing-jersey-on-the-ice

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#92 Forrestt
December 22 2013, 12:18PM
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I think it's "Trade Time". Show the fan base that a bold move has been made, for a top defencemen, or that rugged kick his own teamates arse when there playing like crap forward. The trade will hurt but hopefully heal the Oilers Longterm!

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#93 Renegade
December 22 2013, 12:45PM
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I am starting to think that Katz wants to relocate the team. He has demonstrated that by going over to Seattle. Why else would he let this team go on the way it is?

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#94 Quicksilver ballet
December 22 2013, 01:40PM
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Jay wrote:

So your Nashville and MacT calls asking for weber. What's gonna get it done? Yak, JSchultz, Marincin and this years first?

Just a few rules before you get comfortable here Jay. According to most here, Shea Weber rumors are just fictional NHL2K13 type thinking here. Thinking like this will not be tolerated, even though Terry Jones and Glen Healy totally agree with you.

Now that you let Beetlejuice out of the bag, prepare for the wrath of the naysayers here my friend.

Anything else you'd like to add before you get banned, sir?

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#95 Johnnydapunk
December 22 2013, 02:06PM
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Bring back the donuts, problem solved :-)

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#96 Rick Stroppel
December 22 2013, 07:50PM
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@Gerald R. Ford

Every thing you say about Stauffer's show is accurate but I think you missed one. Every show he says "...it SEEMS like every time a team plays back-to-back in Calgary and Edmonton, Calgary gets the second game". A credible journalist would go back and actually look at the schedule over the last 2-3 years to see if there is any FACTUAL support for this idea that "...the NHL is trying to screw us". Saying that something SEEMS wrong is good enough for a blogger, not good enough for someone who is being paid to comment on the game in a professional way. Then again, they say that "sports journalism" is a contradiction in terms, like "jumbo shrimp" and "military intelligence".

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#97 james_dean
December 22 2013, 12:59PM
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I had an 8 beer game earlier in the month, all my balls were big enough to do was to yell "pull the trigger"

also teir 2 fan here

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#98 Spydyr
December 22 2013, 01:20PM
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I'm pretty sure there is no trade freeze on letting management go this time of year. Katz give every Oiler fan a Christmas present and let Lowe go.It even rhymes.

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#99 Spydyr
December 22 2013, 03:38PM
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Maybe someone with media pull could organize and Jersey toss like the Teddy bear toss.Then give the jerseys to underprivileged kids.Do it for the Jets game and the kids get a nice Christmas present.

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#100 bnr
December 22 2013, 04:04PM
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As someone who lives out of province.. Can someone tell me why the city of Edmonton would put taxpayers money into a private business (essentially what a sports organization is)? I've never heard of that occurring elsewhere.

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