WHY DID WE HAVE ALL THESE KIDS, ANYWAY?

Lowetide
December 22 2013 10:12AM

We're almost 40 games in to this season, and the Edmonton Oilers are in a world of hurt. Nothing rhymes, the shooters aren't shooting, the defenders aren't defending, the goalies aren't stopping anything, and the fans are increasingly indifferent. WHAT can Craig MacTavish do? Aside from rescinding the Smid trade, there are a few things he can do.

PROBLEMS!

  1. Too many kids! This one is obvious. If we name all of the Oilers with less than 200 games NHL experience (Nuge, Yakupov, Justin Schultz, Petry, Arcobello, Belov, Larsen, Potter, Joensuu, Gazdic) it's almost half the roster.
  2. Too many kids in feature roles! Hell, Taylor Hall just passed 200 NHL games for crying out loud—and maybe that's the best way to frame this issue—there are too many kids in important roles. The entire 1line lacks experience, the top pairing many nights is Belov-Petry and the veterans (Ference and Nick Schultz) are overwhelmed.

INDIFFERENCE

The smart move for Craig MacTavish should be 'stay the course' and wait for a trade that makes sense. However, fan rage is giving way to indifference, and that's a very dangerous neighborhood for a sports franchise. I think the odds of Edmonton making a significant trade went way up last night, and the chances of seeing one of the gifted youngsters heading out of town rose with it.

Bold can be beautiful, but you better be right.

WHO'S GOING?

The 2014 1st rd pick, Nail Yakupov, Justin Schultz, Jeff Petry and any combination of that group. I don't think they club moves Hall, Nuge or Eberle, and until last night would have included Yakupov on that list.

No longer. The die is cast.

WHO'S COMING IN?

Christian Ehrhoff, Brian Campbell, Dustin Byfgluien, a veteran defenseman who can play big minutes in all three disciplines.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

From the 2010 draft through MacT's arrival as GM, the Oilers were basically running in place, gathering talent. This next move—the bold one—is going to send away a significant piece of tomorrow for some sunshine today.

And Craig MacTavish has to make that deal with 29 jackals. Next stop, Pottersville.

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#51 Btk2222
December 22 2013, 11:37AM
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Come on Conner McDavid and Arron Ekblad and just save this team already.

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#52 Cold Hard Truth
December 22 2013, 11:37AM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Doubt the Oilers do anything except offload salary at the deadline. Nor should they imo, unless the right deal comes along. Panic deals are rarely good deals. Just hoping they can find the next diamond in the rough (Jason Smith). The one constant through all the agony has been Kevin Lowe and the two assistant coaches. It's time they all go. Will it happen? Not likely until Katz starts losing serious amounts of $.

I've heard this year after year after year after year. The word panic has negative connotations; I prefer urgent. If the ex-Oilers cabal is not showing any urgency, all the more reason for them to go.

Second verse, same as the first.

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#53 Soccer Steve
December 22 2013, 11:37AM
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Pennerwise wrote:

I really think a statement needs to be made on mass.

Pennies for change! Throwing coins on the ice creates a very real disturbance. Would get lots of attention in the media. Very little cost. It would send a message that we, as fans, are fed up with spending our hard earned money on an inferior product. We would be" tipping" the Oilers organization for their hard work and effort. Plus we could all wish for some real change.

Don't go and don't watch. Much more effective en masse than your ridiculous suggestion.

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#54 Pennerwise
December 22 2013, 11:38AM
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Frank the dog wrote:

Paper clips are more effective and cost even less. But in view of the harm either would do to a player tripping over one, I think doing either verges on criminal.

What if a player that tripped on a coin or paper clip smashed himself full speed into the boards head first, crushed his neck and died?

I'd suggest the top tier fans start wearing paper bags over their faces at games until further notice.

Steaming piles of dog sh@ would also be effective when thrown on the ice.Just one problem..

How could you tell what was thrown in protest, and what was the normal Oilers line up.

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#55 Roga35
December 22 2013, 11:39AM
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@-30-

Seriously guys!!!! Let's be honest here.... The Oilers have been using the term "rebuilding" for the last 20 years. I've heard "We are a young team with a great deal of speed and skill but we just need to wait , be patient and get the young boys some experience" for 20yrs as well. The best years for the Oilers are long gone and to think things are going to get better is a laugh. They haven't put a competitive team on the ice since the last cup... 2006 cup run was a complete fluke and what really screwed the team is offering Hemskey, Pasani, Horcoff, etc outrages contracts just because they put a good show on for 5 weeks . A great deal of things could have been done with that money instead of paying those players millions of dollars to never play due to injuries. Now all we are left with are a bunch of teenagers who are all undersized trying to play a man's game. Simple as that !!!

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#56 TeddyTurnbuckle
December 22 2013, 11:40AM
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LT you are right about the core being too young and inexperienced. I've been saying that for a while. Its not just the young guns though, the problem is that we keep bringing in more and more rookies each year. Example: Arcobello, Gazdic, Acton, Fedun, Pitlick, Hamilton. Some of these guys have played well and are older but have little NHL experience. We are supporting young stars with more rookies. The Oilers need more guys like Ryan Smyth and Brendan Morrow (why didn't we sign this guy?) to bridge the gap. This team has such a high turn over rate every year that too many rookies find their way onto the team. As for a trade I say wait for the draft or after free agency to see what holes we need to fill. I don't see the point in trading for a player now when our winning window starts in two years. The player we trade for would become a free agent before this team turns it around. I could care less about the jersey on the ice, just some drunk fan. Good job by Hall on after hours, he is a good kid.

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#57 CMG30
December 22 2013, 11:40AM
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I'm all for the idea of trading one of the kids for another piece of the puzzle and I think MacT is on board with that as well. But I don't think that trade is out there right now, if it was it would be done. Obviously it would be tremendously easy to give away one of the kids, (I bet MacT's phone started ringing off the hook last night) but if that move doesn't net a significant useful piece coming back then I fear the carnage must continue.

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#58 Paq Twinn
December 22 2013, 11:42AM
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oilerjed wrote:

Was there a game last night? 2-0 St louis when I fell asleep watching my PVR'd game. Third one in a row as a matter of fact, that I did not bother to rewind and watch the end. Like many the oil are my religion and with center ice haven't missed more the a handful of games in years. Many more out there like me or worse. I guess what I am saying is that Lowetide is right, indifference should be keeping this teams owner up every night. Even still I dont advocate a trade for this reason alone. To me the main reason for making trades now, yes even at a losing price, is that at what point do we start the real apprenticeship of our #1's? Without quality to instruct them how exactly are they ever going to learn the right way to get it done? Yak, hall and Nuge should be off the table other then that...........

Ditto.

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#59 Sevenseven
December 22 2013, 11:43AM
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Can anyone sell me tickets to tomorrows game? I really want to get a fire Kevin Lowe chant going and throw my jersey on the ice too. Maybe it's time to "rebuild" management, then do the team on the ice. Is it the rookie gm's fault? Is it the rookie head coaches fault? The scouts fault? The assistant coaches fault? Maybe, just maybe, it's the fault of the guy who orchestrated this mess. Six rings.

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#60 Oilergasm
December 22 2013, 11:45AM
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@bazmagoo

This is among the reasons we are in this mess in the first place, management and coaches have been preaching hard work and accountability, but yet the management team has been throwing things in the air to see what sticks (Belov, Grebeshkov, Omark, Schultz). The problem is, nothing is sticking. Jury's still out on Belov and Schultz, but all we've found so far are more Fabian Brunnstrum's and Roman Cervenka's.

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#61 Cold Hard Truth
December 22 2013, 11:46AM
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CMG30 wrote:

I'm all for the idea of trading one of the kids for another piece of the puzzle and I think MacT is on board with that as well. But I don't think that trade is out there right now, if it was it would be done. Obviously it would be tremendously easy to give away one of the kids, (I bet MacT's phone started ringing off the hook last night) but if that move doesn't net a significant useful piece coming back then I fear the carnage must continue.

Again, you are giving mgmt way too much credit.

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#62 Turnover
December 22 2013, 11:48AM
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For all the people who pay to see those poopypants Soilers at Rectal Place...don't you want to hear what Bryz has to say about this wonderful mess?

Put a mic in front of Bryz, and let him give at least a bit of entertsinment for the money you spend.

The only Soilers person with any balls last night, was the one who threw their jersey onto the ice.

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#63 TonyT
December 22 2013, 11:52AM
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@Sevenseven

I have tickets for tomorrow and I was thinking the same thing, I do however dread the 2nd game (which is usually the only win during an Oiler homestand)... I do however hope that that jersey throwing incident becomes a tradition and a catalyst for change. Realistically the odds of emptying out that building are pretty slim, and having endured so much (regardless of management's efforts) we will all cling to a sliver of hope. That doesn't mean we have to become "yes" men and blindly support the team. If the Oilers have another lacklustre effort tomorrow night, I will be tossing my jersey to the ice. My years of support have afforded me the ability to do this for at least 8 games. Sometimes, you need a little tough love.

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#64 #ThereGoesTheOilers
December 22 2013, 11:53AM
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I missed the game last night (mercifully).

Did anyone see what jersey it was on the ice? I think it would be fitting if the name on the back was Lowe.

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#65 Oilergasm
December 22 2013, 11:55AM
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@TonyT

I would love to see a teddy bear toss of Oiler jersey's when Winnipeg scores their first goal.

Everyone talks about the magic the crowd was in '06, time to show what we can do again.

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#66 Brian
December 22 2013, 11:56AM
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For God's sake, run Bushberger and Own Goal Smith the hell out of here and get some assistants who can actually assist. This fiasco is not all on Eakins as he has no qualified help. The cronyism is sickening and Lowe's lap dogs need to be put down.

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#67 dwarr
December 22 2013, 11:59AM
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At some point management has to admit they were wrong, i don't put full blame on Eakins but the lack of supporting cast for his coaching style has crippled his effectiveness. Now it maybe out of his control (management refusal to fire the existing) but that would have undoubtedly been discussed during the hiring process. With the looming Olympic break i propose a changing of the guard and a chance to start new. Firing Eakins and bringing in Laviolette (up tempo style with fiery passion for winning, proven success with youngsters in important positions. **an option of few that are available during season.) this upcoming break will allow for a transition and hopefully a positive change to the outlook of this team.

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#68 Oiler Al
December 22 2013, 12:02PM
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#ThereGoesTheOilers wrote:

I missed the game last night (mercifully).

Did anyone see what jersey it was on the ice? I think it would be fitting if the name on the back was Lowe.

Can't be Lowe's shirt on the ice, Katz as cornered the market on all Lowe shirts available, and has made them into bed spreads for house, and seat covers for this cars.

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#69 THE PUZ
December 22 2013, 12:02PM
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Katz has let management run this franchise into the ground. Our management has hung our core forwards, and Eakins for that matter, out to dry. "Bold move" MacTavish, with limited experience, has provided ZERO support to enable our star players to play the role they are supposed to play. He hired an inexperienced coaching staff. He did not even let Eakins choose his own assistants. MacTavish has not provided an NHL caliber goaltender, any bottom 6 players or any defence to allow the emergence of our top players. Trading away a player like Smid for 2 non-NHL players should have prompted an NHL investigation. The management has let down every one of our "core" forwards and feel sorry them as they never were given a chance to succeed. Oiler fans are frustrated and want retribution for this mess. The dismantling of this disaster should start from the top down starting with Kevin Lowe and MacTavish.

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#70 bazmagoo
December 22 2013, 12:09PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Can't be Lowe's shirt on the ice, Katz as cornered the market on all Lowe shirts available, and has made them into bed spreads for house, and seat covers for this cars.

Props for the comment of the month.

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#71 vetinari
December 22 2013, 12:09PM
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Take a lesson from "Breaking Bad": "No more half measures..."

Katz:

There are problems with your management team.

There are problems with your mix of coaches and assistant coaches.

There are problems with the current roster of players and how they relate to the coaches.

Where do you want to start because the ball is in your court?

I suppose that as long as this investment continues to make you money, there is no incentive for you to change business practices.

I only hope that you get to feel the pain that we all do in some small way, whether it's a fan boycott for all games from February to the end of the year, or some other collective action by the fans (anyone have management's e-mail addresses?).

Just a little piece of free advice for you, Mr. Katz-- when your management team is the basically the one that got you into this mess, maybe you should hire a consultant from outside of the organization to do a review of what's currently wrong from top to bottom... but that would only be needed if you actually thought that there was a problem and that the problem needed to be fixed.

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#72 K_Mart
December 22 2013, 12:11PM
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The shirt had a 3 in it. So either 93 or 83 is my guess.

23? Lol.

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#73 Rob...
December 22 2013, 12:17PM
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Started watching yesterday's PVR'd game at about 9:30. After the second goal I started skipping forward until I caught up to the live broadcast and then turned off the tv. An hour later I checked the score on TSN's website, laughed, and deleted the remainder of the recording.

Advertisers, take notice: You are not getting the proper bang for your buck when it comes to Oiler's broadcasts. Consider asking for discounts or find other ways to push your products and services.

Katz, take notice: Until you ice a competitive hockey team you are going to lose more and more money. You live in Vancouver and moved Rexall's headquarters to Toronto so I don't buy for a second that what you do is for the love of Edmonton... it's money or nothing. Enjoy your 30 year deal.

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#74 Spaz
December 22 2013, 12:19PM
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K_Mart wrote:

The shirt had a 3 in it. So either 93 or 83 is my guess.

23? Lol.

Wasn't Omark, I could see the "A" on the front from my seat.

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#75 blue31
December 22 2013, 12:22PM
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Pennerwise wrote:

I really think a statement needs to be made on mass.

Pennies for change! Throwing coins on the ice creates a very real disturbance. Would get lots of attention in the media. Very little cost. It would send a message that we, as fans, are fed up with spending our hard earned money on an inferior product. We would be" tipping" the Oilers organization for their hard work and effort. Plus we could all wish for some real change.

You forgot to say "just kidding" and include a smiley face. Otherwise, people might think you were serious.

I know you were joking because NOBODY could be that stupid.

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#76 rob
December 22 2013, 12:30PM
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I took my 6 year old son to his first hockey game last night,drove from spruce grove in minus 25,paid 12 bucks for parking,6.50 for pizza,5 something for a pop,5 something for popcorn,8.25 for a beer but through all of this showed up for a hockey game,to bad the oilers did not!

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#77 Frank the dog
December 22 2013, 12:36PM
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dwarr wrote:

At some point management has to admit they were wrong, i don't put full blame on Eakins but the lack of supporting cast for his coaching style has crippled his effectiveness. Now it maybe out of his control (management refusal to fire the existing) but that would have undoubtedly been discussed during the hiring process. With the looming Olympic break i propose a changing of the guard and a chance to start new. Firing Eakins and bringing in Laviolette (up tempo style with fiery passion for winning, proven success with youngsters in important positions. **an option of few that are available during season.) this upcoming break will allow for a transition and hopefully a positive change to the outlook of this team.

Anything outside of replacing Bucky and Smith fails to address the issue. to do that may also involve replacing 6 Rings and we all know how likely that is. So anyone with interest left is relegated to playing deckchairs until the team starts losing money due to lack of interest.

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#78 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 22 2013, 12:58PM
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@CDean

So when we say that you can't make a trade when your losing cause everyone is looking to fleece you, are you suggesting that people are more willing to make good deals for teams that are winning? That doesnt sound correct.

I understand that the Oilers feel pressure and may make a rash decision but I can guarantee thast opposing GM's don't care if your a winner or loser they are looking to fleece you no matter what.

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#79 Bushed
December 22 2013, 01:00PM
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Anyone looking for "protest" game tickets can find them on the Ticket Exchange link on the Oilers' website, most way below ticket face value price, and now, below actual season ticket holders' costs.

So the "tier 1 fans" are actually under-pricing the Oilers on their own tickets, and selling them at a loss just to get rid of them.

If that isn't a clear message to the brain trust, they aren't paying attention...

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#80 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 22 2013, 01:01PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

I would say the axe at least should fall on Steve Smith and Kelly Buchberger. A REAL NHL coach should be brought in to help.

I actually think this won't change much as I'm quite sure Smith and especially Buchberger contribute nothing, but it would be a demonstration that the 'braintrust' knows that something is, in fact, wrong.

you forgot Chabot who seems to be getting bryz closer to dubnyks level. It will take time but they can do it.

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#81 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 22 2013, 01:15PM
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The Real Scuba Steve wrote:

I'm disappointed I really expected to see that jersey on the ice on the front page on The Sun or The Journal, What better image to send to Katz, What happens NOTHING! Every sports channel outside of Edmonton made remarks about it. In Edmonton nothing, all you writers in Oilernation have yet to comment about it. Does the Oiler WarMachine really have every media outlet in Edmonton by the balls?

Not many media types in this city have any courage. They are all afraid of lowe obviously. Lowe gets a big pass. Terry Jones only writes the big articles when the Oilers want him to. How an exec can have a record of 416 - 430 - 47 - 96 (w-l-t-otl) and still have a job? This is not the record of a winner

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#82 THRNHJE
December 22 2013, 01:16PM
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Play bad for Ekblad, and suck D for MacD. We have a stellar roster just in time for the new arena guys.

Hall-RNH-Eberle Perron-MacDavid-Yaks Pitlick-Gordon-Khaira Gazdic-Yakimov-whoever

Nurse-Ekblad Klefbom-Jultz Ference-Belov

Rimmer Brossoit

That is what the future looks like because this organization doesnt make BOLD moves, they just talk about them.

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#83 Potlicker
December 22 2013, 01:17PM
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-30- wrote:

Why trade out of desperation?

Expect the Oil to stink the joint out. Expect #1 draft picks to get their feathers ruffled.

Aren't we really FOUR years into the actual rebuild. Pittsburgh, Chicago and LA all took longer than four years to rebuild.

Do something hasty and you hurt the product down the road.

Wait until the trade deadline. Deal if it's there and then again wait until the draft and see what is available.

Doing a trade out of desperation almost never works. MacT hasn't even been on the job a year yet.

This is like saying something you don't mean in an argument and then having to take it back afterward. They don't offer refunds in trades.

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FFS! Do your math. Ground zero of rebuild or start of rebuild was our injury filled year just before drafting Hall. Hall, Nuge, Yaks, Nurse = 5years of this crud. Right now, 4 or 5(whatever) years of pain = time to make a deal. Yeah we have no leverage with teams like the Hawks, Kings, Sharks & so on. But, there are other teams that are underachieving & in need to making a big move as bad as we do. These teams have pieces that could fill in nicely here. Time for a bold move. If Yaks & our 2014 1st can get us 2 solid veterans on blueline & forward, do it & do it soon please!!!

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#84 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 22 2013, 01:17PM
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Lowe Expectations wrote:

I think this is karma biting us the ass for all the years Gretz & the gang ran the score up and simply handed there lunch to rest of the NHL. Now I know what a Canucks fan circa 1985 felt like.

no this is karma for lowe acting like a tool when he got power.

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#85 Rod from Viking
December 22 2013, 01:20PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Couldn't agree more. So, Eberle?

Eberle traded would be the best wake up call I think, his room mate would be shocked and so would ATB. Alan do you think his contract would be prohibitive to making a trade for anything but a bad contract back. I know you and others would like to see a #1d but that isn't going to happen, we also don't need any more soft defense-men, we need two hard nosed tough to play against veteran #3's that can put a spark in this team and in the building, it wouldn't be a bad idea to fire the person in charge of the song selection's in Rexall either.

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#86 bazmagoo
December 22 2013, 01:21PM
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How about Yak to Buffalo for Tyler Myers? Any value in that proposal?

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#87 DAVE
December 22 2013, 01:24PM
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The move I'd like to see MacT do is a moving van in front of K-lowes house, and maybe a punch in the face.

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#88 Neal
December 22 2013, 01:45PM
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@ LT - what a great, great Headline! Hilarious!

To the issue at hand, you nailed it when you said Mac has to trade us to improvement with "29 other jackals". It's going to be almost impossible to not lose trades when he's seen to be waist deep in this pile of sh*t. We might have to re-define our definition of win and lose, so that if we send away a way better player than we get, but if the new player fits our need, then it's a win. We might be reduced to that. And as I've said before, even if he's a genius, it's going to take a long time to get out of this.

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#89 nick
December 22 2013, 01:50PM
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Oilergasm wrote:

This is among the reasons we are in this mess in the first place, management and coaches have been preaching hard work and accountability, but yet the management team has been throwing things in the air to see what sticks (Belov, Grebeshkov, Omark, Schultz). The problem is, nothing is sticking. Jury's still out on Belov and Schultz, but all we've found so far are more Fabian Brunnstrum's and Roman Cervenka's.

Jury is not out on Belov, he is brutal. At best he is an AHL defenseman. There was a reason he was not in the NHL before 27 years old. The Oilers are not ahead of the game finding this guy they were at the back of the bus when 29 other teams thought no way he's not good enough. MacT is clearly an idiot.

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#90 6 ring circus
December 22 2013, 01:54PM
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If this organization does not turn things around PDQ ,I can see one of these top picks pulling a Lindros and refusing to play in Edmonton.

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#91 Neal
December 22 2013, 01:55PM
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#92 nick
December 22 2013, 01:59PM
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THE PUZ wrote:

Katz has let management run this franchise into the ground. Our management has hung our core forwards, and Eakins for that matter, out to dry. "Bold move" MacTavish, with limited experience, has provided ZERO support to enable our star players to play the role they are supposed to play. He hired an inexperienced coaching staff. He did not even let Eakins choose his own assistants. MacTavish has not provided an NHL caliber goaltender, any bottom 6 players or any defence to allow the emergence of our top players. Trading away a player like Smid for 2 non-NHL players should have prompted an NHL investigation. The management has let down every one of our "core" forwards and feel sorry them as they never were given a chance to succeed. Oiler fans are frustrated and want retribution for this mess. The dismantling of this disaster should start from the top down starting with Kevin Lowe and MacTavish.

You hit the nail on the head, When you move Smid for b level prospects you should be fired on the spot. The last thing the Oilers need are B level prospects the cupboards are full of them. If MacT figures he needed to get rid of Smid at least get an experienced NHL player back. What an embarrassment of a trade for MacT, just shows the total incompetence of this management group. How can they ever build a team that can even get close to the playoffs. Two most glaring mistakes in the last year, Hiring MacT as a GM and then Hiring Eakins as a coach. Both unmitigated disaters

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#93 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 22 2013, 02:17PM
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rob wrote:

I took my 6 year old son to his first hockey game last night,drove from spruce grove in minus 25,paid 12 bucks for parking,6.50 for pizza,5 something for a pop,5 something for popcorn,8.25 for a beer but through all of this showed up for a hockey game,to bad the oilers did not!

The Oilers thank you for your patronage, but they aren't in the least bit concerned if you received your moneys worth or not. Please, try not to bug the players for autographs while you're here.

Kindest regards, Kevin

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#94 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 22 2013, 02:20PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

If this organization does not turn things around PDQ ,I can see one of these top picks pulling a Lindros and refusing to play in Edmonton.

It's not so much an issue of if now, it's just a matter of when and how many that remains to be seen.

Kevin Lowe is killing Katz' goose that lays his golden eggs.

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#95 YFC Prez
December 22 2013, 02:43PM
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NHL President with horrid track record as a GM...

Hires a close friend and rookie GM during his presidency who...

Fires his head coach who showed some signs of promise and replaces him with another rookie NHL coach.

How was this formula ever going to work especially given the young inexperienced roster Eakins is given to work with.

Everyone in this system would need to hit the ground running with little to no learning curve in their given roles to see any success.....Incredibly unlikely if not down right impossible.

The problem starts at Horrid President with a Horrid track record. That should be where the fix starts to.

I haven't watched the last 6 games...one of them I had tickets too and did not go. (didn't want to brave the road conditions to see a crap shoot oilers performance).

That's the first time in my life I've ever missed a hockey game I have paid to see regardless of travel conditions, illness etc. I've been to almost 50 games (none in the past 3 years though)at Rexall with my family and had to drive over 300 kms to get there. Sad state of affairs with this team.

I don't think any meaningful change happens until Hall or Nuge request a trade. That's going to be the straw that breaks the camels back and sends Lowe packing.

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#96 15w40
December 22 2013, 02:48PM
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Apathy.......meh

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#97 camdog
December 22 2013, 02:54PM
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CDean wrote:

This all started with Tambo, the word 'rebuild' was used and the concept of losing was deemed 'ok'. Losing is never OK. If losing happens, deal with but do not plan for and expect it. That was a loser vision from the start. The losing atmosphere was probably here before the number one overall because the team was performing terribly thus the need for a 'rebuild'.

MacT has inherited this losing atmosphere and it should have never been here. The objective of the team is to win. It doesn't matter that they had to turn over half the roster back in 2009. But not having a bar set and a plan set for your number one(s) to learn and grow was a terrible strategy. They team needs to be better now just like MacT said at the start of the season.

A trade is coming...

First time I heard rebuild was when Lowe went to the season ticket holders to inform them of his plan to tank.

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December 22 2013, 03:02PM
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Justin Schultz---, the college boy every team went after. What a great defenseman this young man is going to be. Who will be the lucky team to win this big prize?

Dallas Eakins---- the coach of the Toronto Marlies that many other NHL teams were publicly chasing. This is a guy that was going to turn your team around. This is the guy that had the right attitude and formula for a winning culture. This is a highly sought after coach that so many were interested in acquiring. Who is the lucky team to land this big prize?

It's none other the Edmonton Oilers. Both duds. Both are a disaster in their role with the team. But hey, we got bragging rights--we got picked. Twice.

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#99 oilcountryforlife
December 22 2013, 03:06PM
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"the chances of seeing one of the gifted youngsters heading out of town rose with it."

gifted youngsters?!

OMFG

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#100 Rod from Viking
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

It's not so much an issue of if now, it's just a matter of when and how many that remains to be seen.

Kevin Lowe is killing Katz' goose that lays his golden eggs.

I thought he was just choking his chicken, this is way more serious.

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