GDB 29.0: SHOW UP AT HOME

Jason Gregor
December 03 2013 01:24PM

Home ice advantage has been a mirage for the Edmonton Oilers so far this season.

The Oilers are 3-8-0 at home this year. They've been outscored 38-23. They've allowed 3+ goals in 9 of the 11 home games and they've scored once or been shutout seven times. There is no other way to say it, they've been awful on home ice, and it's about time they start giving their fans something to cheer about.

In 2010, on their way to drafting Taylor Hall at least they were competitive at home, 18-19-4, and 9-28-4 on the road.
In 2011, they were pretty much the same team at home on and on the road; 13-22-6 at home and 12-23-6 on the road.
In 2012, they were 18-17-6 at home, and 14-23-4 on the road.

Last year, the Oilers won more games on the road than they did at home, 9-11-4 at home and 10-11-3 on the road.

There is no reason the Oilers should be this horrendous at Rexall Place, and it has to change. The games are still announced as sell outs, but I know some fans are wasting their tickets and not showing up. The Oilers must be aware of this.

When that many fans elect to just "waste" their tickets, Oilers management better take notice. This happened in the early 90s, and once the team wasn't competitive, 1993-1996, the fans stopped buying tickets. The Oilers shouldn't be naive enough to believe that couldn't happen again.

Fans have been incredibly loyal and patient, but if the Oilers don't start winning some home games soon, I sense we could see even more empty seats as the season progresses.

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Dubnyk

Ryan Jones has played with desperation since coming out of the pressbox, and Eakins rewarded him by bumping him up the lineup. Eakins moved Yakupov back to the right wing, and put Perron on the right side with him and Arcobello in hopes of creating two scoring lines.

I'm curious to see if Eakins starts to try and get better matchups at home. Will he try to give "softer" minutes to Arcobello's line so they can produce offence, or will he do that with the Gagner trio?

Joensuu has to play with the same passion and determination that Jones did to earn a promotion. I think Joensuu has more to offer, and he needs to start showing it.

TUESDAY TIDBITS...

  • It will be back next week, but this week we incorporated into the GDB.
     
  • Ray Ferraro had an interesting take on my show regarding Taylor Hall, when I asked him what change Hall should make in his game that would help him become a more dominant player.
    I think there is one thing he could do that would elevate his game and he could do it quickly. If he would learn, or accept, that he is not the best option on the ice all the time, I think that could help him a great deal.

    I will give you an example. When he gets the puck, and when he gets moving, if he would give it up a little quicker and separate, because no one is going to catch him, and then get it back; that small change to his game would change his game immensely. He loves to lug the puck. At times he looks like a punt returner. He gets it in his zone and is going to go as far as he can with it, and he can because he's that talented.

    I think if he takes a couple of strides and moves it to a centreman -- and obviously in Edmonton he is playing with talented players so the puck will come back to him --now he is moving again. If he moves it to the middle the defenceman has to take a step to the middle, because he has to defend the centreman, and that will give Taylor another five feet when he gets the puck back. Now the D-man has to cross over and come back, and I like Hall's chances better if he has that much more room to skate, than if he was just lugging the puck all the time.

    I think it is a small change, and if he can get his head around it and try it, he would find that he is going to get more room on the ice than he already creates with his speed.
     
  • Ferraro knows a thing or two about creating offensive chances. Ferraro is currently the 99th highest scoring player in NHL history. Ferraro admitted it isn't easy for players to make sudden changes to their game, and while he said it was small, it would take some time to adapt properly. Hall has carried the puck his entire career, and he's had success with it, so any change is tough, but it makes a lot of sense. Hall's speed already scares D-men, and if he gain a quarter or a half of a step advantage he could be even more dangerous.
     
  • Sidney Crosby will play his 499th game tonight, and he'll play his 500th game vs. the Sharks on Thursday. Crosby already has 701 points in 498 games and whatever points his picks up in the next 72 hours will put leave him with the 6th most points in NHL history through 500 games.

    Wayne Gretzky is first with 1,186.
    Mario Lemieux tallied 971.
    Peter Stastny had 759.
    Mike Bossy scored 757.
    Jari Kurri is 5th with 730.

    Crosby will join a very elite crew, being only the 6th player in NHL history to score 700+ points in his first 500 games.
     
  • In case you are wondering, Alex Ovechkin had 643 points in his first 500 games, including 309 goals.
     
  • The Penguins ability to throw out two dominant centres makes life much easier for head coach Dan Bylsma. While Crosby had a "slow" month, picking up 15 points in 15 games, Evgeni Malkin was on fire with 25 points in 15 games. After a slow start Malkin is now 2nd in league scoring, 35 points, and he's only one back of Crosby.
     
  • I was perplexed in the summer when some people didn't have Corey Perry on the Olympic team. He was great in 2010, and I don't think his foot speed is an issue. He and Ryan Getzlaf are off to a great start, with 29 and 31 points respectively. For me, both of them are locks to make the squad.
     
  • I wonder if the St. Louis Blues are concerned about how they match up vs. the Sharks and Kings. The Sharks have beat them 6-2 and 6-3 this year, while the Kings dominated the Blues for 55 minutes last night, before two late goals made the 3-2 final look more respectable.
     
  • The Blues need a pure finisher, and Marian Gaborik is a UFA at the end of the season. The Blue Jackets likely won't re-sign him, and he would fit perfect in St. Louis. Gaborik won't lead your team to the Cup, but he could be an excellent complementary player in their top-six. With David Backes and Alex Steen down the middle, the Blues don't need a defensively responsible scorer. They need a finisher. The Blues have about $2 million in cap space at the deadline, and if they are willing to spend it, they could fit Gaborik under the cap, by moving out a small salary.
     
  • The Coyotes have scored the 5th most goals in the western conference, but only Calgary and the Oilers have given up more goals. Mike Smith has a .307 GAA and a respectable .910 SV%. He hasn't played as well as they would like, but the Coyotes are giving up way too many shots. The Coyotes, 34.5, are giving up four more shots against than the Oilers, 30.5.
     
  • Dave Tippett's Coyotes aren't playing as defensively as they have in the past.

TONIGHT...

GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Coyotes have lost four of their last five, and they've given up 4 goals in each loss. The Oilers finally give their fans something to cheer about as defeat a playoff team for only the 2nd time this season. Oilers win 4-1.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Hemsky picks up a point. He has 34 points in 33 career games vs. the Coyotes.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Justin Schultz becomes the first Oiler D-man to score two goals in a game since Corey Potter did it late last season. After reading the previous sentence, many of you are stunned that Potter was the last Oiler D-man to score two goals in a game. I was too. Entering tonight the six blueliners have played a combined 2,118 NHL games, and Andrew Ference is the only one to have a multi-goal game. He scored twice on January 5th, 2004. J.Schultz' two goals will indeed be a rare occurrence.

DAY FOUR...MONTH OF GIVING...

Yesterday we raised another $2,500 for Santas Anonymous. Thanks to Ken for the bid and especially to Robert for re-donating the Messier jersey.
 

It includes:

You can bid by calling 780.444.1260 or 1.800.243.1945. All the proceeds will go to the Christmas Bureau. Thanks in advance to all of those who make a bid.

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR 

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#101 Spydyr
December 04 2013, 08:55AM
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Hall the time wrote:

I cant take the losing anymore, fire the coaching staff and start winning Oilers.

I have enough stress in my life I'm done with the oiler this year.

After last night effort no one from coaches to managers to players should be safe. It is well past time to shake things up. Starting with Old six rings.

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#102 Doctor Smashy
December 04 2013, 10:05AM
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Let me be clear...I am not an Arcobello fanboy. He's played well but he isn't the grand solution to any of the Oilers' problems. However, Arcobello played a very good game last night. He was involved in exactly zero of the defensive breakdowns that resulted in goals (I'm looking at you Belov, Gagner, Petry, Schultz Jr.....and a very comprehensive etcetera....). He set up the first goal, and took the body in a surprisingly effective way for a man of his stature.

The fact that, besides saying that 3 defencemen had their worst games, Eakins singled out Arcobello as having a rough game tells me Eakins has NO F-ing idea what the problems actually are. Eberle has the puck on his stick for 17 of the 18 minutes he played and got 2 shots? Gagner plays his gawdknowshowmany consecutive terrible game and isn't cited as a problem? I have no idea if Eakins is a terrible coach or not but it is becoming very clear he doesn't know what is happening on the ice at all. Does he think Arco is wearing the full cage?

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#103 Hockey Problems
December 04 2013, 11:50AM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

There is a bunch of griping over the whole new Rogers deal that is going to be in place soon. I might be wrong, but it seems like the coverage will actually be better. No blackouts, more games, more Canadian games covered, etc. There is complaining over the talking head shows etc, but I would like to point out that if you can actually watch more NHL hockey what do you care about the cheeze bits in between?

Also, cable deals are going to be changing soon, where you no longer have to purchase package deals for a bunch of channels you don't watch, so if you can pay a smaller amount, for a channel that is going to cover all the hockey you want, then what gives? If you don't want to watch it or pay for it, then don't, its that simple. Also, because it will be Rogers place the new arena will be really tech savy, so that should give all you old farts something else to cry about.

I may be wrong, but it seems that that is the direction things are going. Here come the trash its. No big deal.

You want the "Rogers NHL package ?!?

$200/month please. We have to recoup 5.2 billion somehow.

This is Canada, it DOESN'T get cheaper.

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#104 Spydyr
December 03 2013, 04:06PM
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OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: When two of your top three centres are Hobbits the outcome is not very good. Besides it is the first game home after a road trip.They never win those.Sad night as Oilers lose.

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#105 Sailge
December 03 2013, 09:06PM
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Good thing they "worked on" the pp yesterday at practice.

They need more work. Terrible.

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#106 MG
December 03 2013, 10:09PM
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Petry has been terrible as of late. I cringe everytime that he is on the ice. I may be a little late, but I think heis my official goat selection. I also desperately wish that the first line would shoot the puck; in fact, it would be nice to see all the lines putting the puck on net. It would so be nice to see Dubnyk stop a puck, ha!

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#107 Hockey fan 1976
December 03 2013, 10:12PM
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How do you not score on a 5-3? Show some ****ing emotion Eakins. How embarrassing with 10 min left arena is half empty. Other than Perron, Arco and Nuge fire everyone. !!!! Screw you Coilers!!!!

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#108 BingBong
December 03 2013, 10:40PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Not to quibble, but it should have been Phoenix 7

Yup, my bad.

Did anybody else laugh when Petry fell on Yandle's goal? I laughed.

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#109 kale
December 03 2013, 10:47PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

On the plus side, I don't need to set aside money for playoff tickets.

Hopefully you have been putting the money away and with eight years of savings, you should have a nice Oiler non-playoff pension plan

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#110 bazmagoo
December 03 2013, 11:26PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Gretsky, can be traded, but Gagner cant...

Only saw the first half of the game, but Gagner looked ridiculous out there tonight. Getting outplayed every shift by Arcobello, who by the way is less than 1/7 the cost. Been saying it for a month or two now, Eakins is in over his head as well. Wonder how long before the next "Oil Change".

So glad I didn't watch the second half of the game.

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#111 LoweBlow
December 03 2013, 11:30PM
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I'm tired of feeling terrible. Time to stop watching the Oilers.

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#112 Clarko
December 04 2013, 10:33AM
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Puck JammeR! wrote:

Trade one of Hall or Eberle this season. They know they're untouchable as the first line wingers into eternity and it seems like every defenceman in the league has got a bead on their ticky-tacky, toe drag, over-handle the puck, no-hit style. The game they play isn't going to work in the NHL and they're never going to change it.

Hall & Eberle may not be perfect, but Hall has 123 points in his last 128 games. And Eberle has 136 points in his last 155 games. The stats say that these guys give NHL defensemen at least a little bit to worry about.

They both need to be more consistent, but trading your two most offensively gifted players on an offensively-challenged team would be a big mistake.

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#113 Zamboni Driver
December 04 2013, 10:52AM
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Puck JammeR! wrote:

Btw there's no such thing as free/cheap Oilers tickets cause you need to spend $60 on beer just to make it watchable.

You have TWO BEERS at an Oilers game!?

Wow! :P

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#114 OilCanFan
December 04 2013, 11:39AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Yeah, if only it were still "Skyreach Centre" - advertising for a now-defunct company that rented things to lift you up real high.

Nothing says big-leagues like that.

Those were the good old days.

the nickname for this arena should be "the doghouse"

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#115 Johnnydapunk
December 04 2013, 11:46AM
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I'm slowly realising and accepting the fact that Katz couldn't care less about the results. From his standpoint, his "investment" has almost doubled in value since he purchased it, he just sold the naming rights to the new arena, making even more cash, the Oilers are surprisingly one of the most profitable franchises in the NHL with regards to the operations side of things so that side is just fine, and he has his hockey heroes on his speed dial. He doesn't have to have a winning team to make money, even when the Oil are crap, they are fine to him.

Maybe he will want to try to change things to make the team a winning one when the Oil move to the new building, as I thnk there will be more of his money involved and if fans stay away, it would affect the "bottom line" more so than now.

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#116 Ed in Edmonton
December 04 2013, 01:03PM
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@A-Mc

I agree, although I thought that Eakins was surprisingly harsh on Arco, it was in response to a specific question about Arco.

I am seeing a big difference of opinion between many in the fan base, as expressed in sites such as this, and the lap dog sports media in this town wrt respect to the value of Arco. Have any of the lap dogs asked Eakins how he thinks Gagner is playing? Gagner seems untouchable whilst Arco is singled out by a media wag as a problem on a night when perhaps 15 of the 20 players were not good enough.

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#117 Joe Mamma
December 04 2013, 01:42PM
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Eerily quiet on the site today. Guess even the writers and bloggers are out of ideas on how to polish this turd of a season.

I guess I'd feel the same if I had to dissect corpses from train wrecks every day.

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#118 LOIL
December 03 2013, 02:05PM
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Oilers got to stop being soft, crashing into our goalies, throwing our 1st line around, coming into our barn and embarrass us in front of our home crowd. If I know hockey players you never allow anyone to come into your barn and steal the show. We have a 'heavy' 4th line that's all we got when it comes to being solid. I mean Gagner scrapping showed some, but J Schultz watching garbage there smash into our goalie is lousy! Cowboy Up Oilers

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#119 Oiler Al
December 03 2013, 04:06PM
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I think Ferraro makes a great point on Halls reluctance to make plays to his mates.. he is like a runaway colt breaking out of the barn.. not aware whats around him most of the time.

He should try for the one pass then take back to the net... mind you many times his mates cant keep up or catch him is another problem.

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#120 Spydyr
December 03 2013, 06:15PM
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Saytalk wrote:

Gagner and Yakupov need a lot of sheltering at even strength to not be complete liabilities out there, which is why it makes more sense to keep them together and use the home ice advantage to shelter them from the toughs. After watching what Toronto did to Gagner and Yak (in Edmonton) earlier this season, you'd think that Eakins would have realized this by now.

The home record won't improve until Eakins patches together two lines that can match up against the opponent's top lines at even strength.

If a player seven years in the NHL needs sheltering.He is not much of a player.

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#121 Pouzar99
December 03 2013, 06:30PM
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I have been a season ticket holder for most of the past 35 years and have no intention of changing that despite my frustration at the Oilers team play, particularly on home ice this year. I make no judgement about those who plan to drop their season tickets, as it is their call. I gave my tickets up for two years after the Gretzky sale, but came back for the 1990 playoffs. My decision.

I sit up with my mates in the front rows of the gallery and we have a pretty good time at $30 per ticket. Fortunately for me I can easily afford it. If you don't want to go, stay home. Watch the games on TV or not at all. End of story. Spare me the lectures about how I should be following suit, however. This organization has made serious mistakes in recent years and I totally agree that some people need to go, but the suggestion that what the club needs is less support is, frankly, stupid.

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#122 D-Unit
December 03 2013, 06:57PM
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Spydyr wrote:

The reason Yak looks lost is not his linemates.It is how his coach teaches Yak his system and teaches what is expected of him within it.

Coaching is more then picking lines the biggest part is teaching.

I agree coaching is a lot about teaching. Though I am not sure how you know how the coach is trying to teach Yak. Further to that though, from an outsiders perspective it looks like Oilers coaches have been trying to teach players who don't want to, or refuse to learn.

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#123 damndubie
December 03 2013, 09:52PM
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Way to make a save dubie....how long until Bryz is back again?

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#124 Cameron
December 03 2013, 09:53PM
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The Oilers have brought more people to atheism than Richard Dawkins!

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#125 HOFFFF
December 03 2013, 09:56PM
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Dubnyk's positioning is horrendous. His glove side is always open. After most goals the right post is directly behind his back. Half his body covering nothing.

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#126 Zamboni Driver
December 03 2013, 10:01PM
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What heart.

What a leader.

Oh? It's 6-2?

Nevermind.

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#127 Walter Sobchak
December 03 2013, 10:56PM
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I knew the last 10-12 games against teams that are not going to be in the playoffs was a telling sign.

Enjoy the next two games folks, it's going to get grim around here.

This team from owner & management to coaches has there head so far up there arse's.

This team desperately needs people who know what the hell is going on!

Anyway, December & January is going to test a lot of fans.

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#128 Greg
December 03 2013, 10:58PM
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its dumbfounding that Klowe is still here...

and where the hell is Katz during all this? when is the last time anybody heard from that guy? i know we all beat up on Klowe for being the idiot that drove this team through the ground. hell if i was Klowe i wouldn't quit. just show up and "run" a hockey team... get paid the big bucks... ive exhausted myself trashing Klowe on here. i think its about time i start directing all my hatred towards Katz. after all this is is product, and he's the one stuffing is pockets during these, depending on how you look at it, horrible/terrific times.

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#129 Slats
December 03 2013, 11:41PM
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Mike Krushelnyski wrote:

Well that sucked

YOU certainly do from around page 6 - page 18!!!

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#130 Taylor Gang
December 04 2013, 08:32AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

820 comments?!?! Wow this fanbase is mad

Lol nvm, didn't see the repeat comments

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#131 Sean17
December 04 2013, 09:12AM
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Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry!

Larry: Lollygaggers!

Skip: Lollygaggers.

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#132 VK63
December 04 2013, 10:26AM
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@Doctor Smashy

I thought Arco was Ok. Drew a couple penalties by mucking it up. Maybe Eakins thinks that because the Oilers PP blew chunks it was Arco's fault for drawing the penalty and thus exposing the chosen ones to scrutiny.

~young and skilled baby… young and skilled~

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#133 vetinari
December 04 2013, 10:52AM
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I suggest that the League implement a new rule just for the Oilers-- if they win a game, they get 4 points instead of 2. That way, they at least hover around the last playoff spot... *

*sadly, if this rule was in place, the Oilers would have 38 points this morning and would be tied for 6th in the West with Colorado... uuggghhh....

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#134 Chainsawz
December 04 2013, 02:04PM
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Trade Arcobello.

This organization doesn't deserve a competitor like him if this is the way he is going to be treated here.

Only spoiled rich floaters allowed.

Dark days indeed.

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#135 tileguy
December 03 2013, 04:42PM
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I wish something good or bad happens to this team. Get beat 7-0 and have a mngt shakeup, or go on a 7 game win streak and let the good times roll. Sooo tired of this apathetic feeling watching "my team".

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#136 Taylor Gang
December 03 2013, 04:45PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

What is:"something Taylor said to his coach this morning."?

What?

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#137 Alsker
December 03 2013, 05:29PM
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Dog Train wrote:

Hopefully Rogers Place is more friendly to us than Rexall has been of late. No matter how many fans waste their tickets for tonight, there will still be more fans at this game than any Coyotes' home game. For that reason alone, we need to win tonight.

OK, so why does "Rogers Place" sound so Vancityish, or Ottawaish.....we need a real name: Deathrink, Blooddome, I don't know maybe "Icecavern of Doom"? Rogers Place sounds like it's Mr.Rogers approved, sweaters and hugs for everyone.

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#138 LoweBlow
December 03 2013, 09:43PM
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This defense is terrible.

The top line needs to learn that fans want goals, any way. We don't care about how it gets in the net.

Perron is a beauty. He should be the only player held on to during the off-season. Burn the rest of them.

Eakins needs to learn how to use what he has, rather than implementing some draconian system.

House MD re-runs are serving me well. He's less miserable than the average Oiler fan. We're all masochists.

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#139 Reg Dunlop
December 03 2013, 09:47PM
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I know that Phoenix, like almost every other NHL team, toys with the non-contact oil but who wouldn't rather have the young potential of Yak and Ebs? Who wouldn't rather have the flash and sizzle of Schultz and Hall? Anyone? No one?

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#140 RexHolez
December 03 2013, 09:54PM
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I work in 6 hours, the sad part is I know this team isn't worth staying up to watch but I wasted my time again

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#141 11-2-99
December 03 2013, 09:57PM
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Petry and Dubnyk go play for Florida or something

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#142 Reg Dunlop
December 03 2013, 10:00PM
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To see the amount of concern on Hall's face says it all. Future captain material.

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#143 Quintana
December 03 2013, 11:27PM
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kale wrote:

Eakins said post game that Arcobello had a really rough game. I know it was not a perfect game but to me he appeared more productive than many. Last game they lost Eakins said it was because of physical fitness. This team is becoming as mechanical as he is. I have never seen the team so emotionless. The team really mimics its coach in my humble opinion. I just dont see this coach leading this team to the next level.

At this stage of the rebuilding we need a senior management, coaching and leadership........Eakins is not, Mc-T is not , "6 rings"is a failure....go figure!!

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#144 bazmagoo
December 03 2013, 11:29PM
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Cubsfan wrote:

is there a worse franchise in professional sports right now?

Dubnyk was awful cause he figures his job is secure now that Bryz is injured

I used to think Dubby was legit, but now it's obvious he's lost it. Time to move on ASAP and bring some competition in for that #1 spot.

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#145 sizedoesmatter
December 04 2013, 06:46AM
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Debrusk's mouth makes sounds but nothing comes out

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#146 Wohin gehst du?
December 04 2013, 07:26AM
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Just a thought. Call up Omark. 4th in AHL scoring, and only -5. he could get something going with Smyth and Arcobello...

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#147 Joe Mamma
December 04 2013, 09:11AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Come on ON, can you not manage this idiot Mike Krusyshetsky... this is insane.. this is not a glich,, this guy is manipulating your site and you let him get away with it.

PS.. unless unless you want to impress your advertisers with the number of hits.

I am sure the mods and contributors to this site are passed out drunk, trying to drown the fact that they have to cover this team for the foreseeable future in copious amounts of booze.

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#148 Oilerz4life
December 04 2013, 11:24AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

Yeah, if only it were still "Skyreach Centre" - advertising for a now-defunct company that rented things to lift you up real high.

Nothing says big-leagues like that.

Those were the good old days.

At least the Oilers could contend for a playoff spot when it was called "Skyreach Centre" lol.

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#149 Oilerz4life
December 04 2013, 11:34AM
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There is a bunch of griping over the whole new Rogers deal that is going to be in place soon. I might be wrong, but it seems like the coverage will actually be better. No blackouts, more games, more Canadian games covered, etc. There is complaining over the talking head shows etc, but I would like to point out that if you can actually watch more NHL hockey what do you care about the cheeze bits in between?

Also, cable deals are going to be changing soon, where you no longer have to purchase package deals for a bunch of channels you don't watch, so if you can pay a smaller amount, for a channel that is going to cover all the hockey you want, then what gives? If you don't want to watch it or pay for it, then don't, its that simple. Also, because it will be Rogers place the new arena will be really tech savy, so that should give all you old farts something else to cry about.

I may be wrong, but it seems that that is the direction things are going. Here come the trash its. No big deal.

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#150 A-Mc
December 04 2013, 12:33PM
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To be fair: Eakins didn't bring up Arco's play, a media guy did and that is why Arco was being discussed. Petry was also brought up but the video cuts out before you hear the answer.

Arco wasn't being singled out by Eakins.

That being said: Obviously Arco was the least of the Oilers worries and IMO he didn't deserve the comment about being "way off"

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