Nail Yakupov to be scratched again

Jonathan Willis
December 30 2013 12:34PM

 

Edmonton Oilers head coach Dallas Eakins announced this morning that Nail Yakupov will be a healthy scratch against the Phoenix Coyotes on Tuesday.

The Player

Nail Yakupov hasn’t been good enough this season.

His stats line shows that (39GP – 6G – 8A – 14PTS, minus-25), and the fact that he’s getting badly outplayed in the most sheltered minutes available is a real problem. The plus/minus exaggerates things (last year at five-on-five Yakupov’s on-ice save percentage was 0.923; this year it’s 0.868, and one would need to be delusional to think those numbers accurately reflect the state of Yakupov’s defensive game in those two seasons) but he’s been getting out-shot and out-chanced despite getting primarily offensive zone time.

He remains a phenomenally talented player, the guy who led both his team and all NHL rookies in goal-scoring last season. He’s fast and aggressive and has a shot that is already one of the best in the game. But he needs to dramatically improve his overall play to be a useful NHL’er.

The Coach

Dallas Eakins, understandably, feels that Yakupov needs to be better if he’s going to earn more ice-time, and that he can’t just keep gifting him with minutes if the results aren’t there.

“You’ve got to earn it,” he says in the video above. “You have to do a number of things on the ice every day. Every day. It can never change. We cannot give things to people. You have to earn them.”

Eakins further said he’d spoken to Yakupov for “40 to 45 minutes” about the scratch, and that he and the player had a “definite plan moving forward.”

Naturally, the coach is going to take some criticism for the scratch, as he took some criticism for sticking Yakupov on the fourth line and slashing the player’s power play role. It’s impossible not to recognize the talent that the Oilers have in that player, and naturally fans want to see him placed in a position to succeed.

Eakins, though, seems clearly focused on the big picture. A scratch here or there isn’t a big deal; Yakupov’s performance this season isn’t even the primary problem. Yakupov is the kind of player who has the talent to play a pivotal role for the Oilers for the next decade or more. The problem Eakins faces is turning him into the best possible player for that next decade, and if that means making unpopular decisions in a season that (like so many others) was lost before the halfway mark, that’s what it means.

Yakupov entered the NHL and had instant chemistry with his first head coach, Ralph Krueger. His enthusiasm was obvious and infectious and a bright point in an otherwise unmemorable season. But it’s worth remembering it for what it was – that despite Yakupov’s point totals, his line was out-shot game-in and game-out, and that all too often he seemed to be floating around on the ice with no clear idea of where he was supposed to be.

Perhaps Krueger would have been able to correct that with time, or perhaps not. Now the responsibility falls to Eakins. Improving Yakupov’s game might be the single most important thing Eakins does this season as Edmonton’s coach, and given that he’s previously compared Yakupov’s problems to the early struggles of people like Steven Stamkos and Joe Thornton it’s a good bet he knows it.

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#1 joshgladu
December 30 2013, 12:39PM
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Thank god we scratched Yakupov. Might as well ship him out now for more toughness and guys who try really really hard but are ultimately useless like Luke Gazdic!!!

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#2 EricOG
December 30 2013, 12:39PM
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And the first first overall pick out of town is: #64!!

Good luck signing the other Russians. But, alas, I am just a center ice fan, so what do i know??

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#3 نفسه
December 30 2013, 02:53PM
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إذا yakupov كان لها هذا الأداء نفسه تحت أي مدرب آخر في NHL تظن أنها سوف babying له، ونأمل أن يحصل على أفضل؟ أشك في ذلك.

لا أرى لماذا الناس ينقط خارجا على بعض الحب القاسي للyakupov. وقال انه لن يصبح لاعبا أفضل من خلال وجود من السهل مسيرته بأكملها.

وعلى الناس أن تكف عن الشكوى حول كيفية Gagner لا يحصل خدش. إيكنز يعرف رئيس عمال هو مشكوك في 2C هامشية ويعرف كيف موهوب وجيد yakupov هو ذلك عقد لهم نفس المستوى لا معنى له.

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#4 Kr55
December 30 2013, 12:53PM
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Yak is just an easy target for Eakins. Lots of players deserved to be benched this year but most of them make too much money.

Barely playing and benching Yak may also be part of a bigger plan to keep his 2nd contract cheaper. We definitely can't afford another 6M/season forward. The season is already done, so might as well keep Yak off the scoresheet as much as possible so he has no ammo during discussions of an extension after this season.

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#5 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 01:07PM
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Eakins is a joke.

I wish one of those females with microphones in front of him had a set of testicles to actually ask a real question. I would really like to know more about this earned ice time and acountability Eakins speaks of, but everything has to be taken at face value and never questioned.

I am not an idiot and I do not believe Yak and Igor to be. I hope Yak demands a trade, get traded for the lowest possible value, then grows to be an elite on an actual NHL team and haunts Eakins corny ass for the rest of his corny career.

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#6 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 01:15PM
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Que Tengo Que Hacer

Pa' Que Vuelvas Conmigo

Vamos a Dejar El Pasado Atras

Para Mi La Vida No Tiene Sentido

Si Te Vas

Volver Yak

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#7 Turnover
December 30 2013, 03:02PM
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** wrote:

Yakupov is going to end up asking for a trade, sent to a contender, end up having a great career, meanwhile the Oilers will still be bottom five for the next 4 years. Eakins is not going to take this team anywhere.

Yakupov will likely never get sent to a contender. Contenders roll four responsible lines. With responsible people. Yakupov is not a responsible player. In fact very irresponsible.

The biggest problem Yakupov has, along with numerous posters here, is, he's nowhere near as good as he, or you believes he is. Another Tyler Seguin. Wants to be "the star". Good competitive teams don't care who gets the points. They play to win as a team. If they are trying to build a team here, and I do believe they are, he don't fit right now.

I also believe he's heading back to the KHL if he doesn't get treated as the baby he is.

I am not a big fan of Eakins, but I am a supporter of this move. Keep him out for a few games. If he still hasen't decided to play a team game, move his ass. We need people who believe in competing as a group.

Make that bold move. If you can find a partener to dance with.

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#8 fedUp
December 30 2013, 12:47PM
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Eakins is an idiot,

"I need him to score" how in the hell will he score with 6 minutes of ice on the 4th line.

If I here him say fitness level once more ill puke look what fitness level has got us last in the west.

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#9 Puck_In_Throat
December 30 2013, 12:54PM
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@joshgladu

I cannot believe how many people do not see that you are being sarcastic.

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#10 Ducey
December 30 2013, 12:47PM
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EricOG wrote:

And the first first overall pick out of town is: #64!!

Good luck signing the other Russians. But, alas, I am just a center ice fan, so what do i know??

Not much

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#11 **
December 30 2013, 02:14PM
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Yakupov is going to end up asking for a trade, sent to a contender, end up having a great career, meanwhile the Oilers will still be bottom five for the next 4 years. Eakins is not going to take this team anywhere.

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#12 me
December 30 2013, 05:38PM
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Who cares? Get a life of your own and stop pretending any of you know jack squat. You don't play for the team...losers.

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#13 BC BOY
December 30 2013, 01:18PM
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if yakupov was having this same performance under any other coach in the NHL do you think they would be babying him and hope that he gets better? Doubt it.

Don't see why people are freaking out over some tough love for yakupov. He's not going to become a better player by having it easy his whole career.

And people have to stop complaining about how Gagner doesn't get scratched. Eakins knows Ganger is a questionable a marginal 2C and he knows how talented and good yakupov is so to hold them to the same standard doesn't make sense.

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#14 DAVE
December 30 2013, 01:29PM
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Eakins it appears has a chip on his shoulder against anybody that might be more talented than him. His mentality is starting to get bizzare. Develope the kid in the NHL or devolope the kid in the AHL. Make up your schizo mind. You will both be better off.

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#15 David S
December 30 2013, 01:07PM
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"The goal is to win every game."

*Continues placing 4th liners and AHL'ers with Eberle/Gagner. Lets Yak twist.*

F@ck you Dallas.

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#16 A-Mc
December 30 2013, 01:19PM
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I dont understand the love that so many of you have for Yakupov.

Here are a few little fun facts:

1. The higher up the roster a player is, the tougher the competition is going to be for that player - GENERALLY SPEAKING. ex) Nuge plays much tougher competition than Lander or Acton.

2. Even on the 3rd or 4th line, Yakupov's line is being outplayed. read: Outplayed vs weak competition.

3. When Yak is put into the top 6, those lines don't perform as well. Also, he continues to fail to produce even with the good line mates.

Yakupov is a microcosm for our entire team. The Oilers have high offensive potential but they can't seem to figure out their defensive game. High Risk. This style of play is clearly enabling us to be picking top 5 for the 4th time in 5 years at the draft. The Oilers will move up the standings when they start playing better defensive hockey; Yakupov will move up the lines when he starts playing better defensive hockey.

Until then, both the Oilers and Yakupov will be bottom feeders. It's time to break the bad habits and it certainly looks like Eakin's is trying to do that. GJ Coach, keep it going.

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#17 Quintana
December 30 2013, 01:23PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Que Tengo Que Hacer

Pa' Que Vuelvas Conmigo

Vamos a Dejar El Pasado Atras

Para Mi La Vida No Tiene Sentido

Si Te Vas

Volver Yak

Viva Yak city!!! Eakins cabron hijo de las mil putas!!!!

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#18 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 02:10PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

You need to pay a little more attention yourself there Arius....I was playing a little trick on you there....putting words in your mouth....read it a couple of more times...let me know when you get it.....then we can move on.

I'm not a baby or a woman, if there is anything going into my mouth it is because I really want it there.

If I want people trying to trick me: I'd go listen to a Eakins press conference.

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#19 steelymac
December 30 2013, 01:33PM
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Eakins lost the team with the double standards and he lost this fan as well.The arrogance he portrays is obvious and I cant stand looking at him on the bench.Last game Smyth played 10 more minutes than Yakupov,give the kid a chance to prove himself.Eakins ego seems to be more important than giving Yak the opportunity to succeed.Way to drive down the players value if they were going to trade him,wich I hope for Yaks sake they do.I work with a guy who feels the Oilers ruin young players and I have disagreed with him but as this crap carries on he may be right.Eakins got to this point coaching in the AHL where 90% of his team would never be good enough to make the NHL and here he is dumping on a kid who was the 1st overall in the entire draft.I know the koolaid consumers with trash this post and I could give 2 sh!ts if they do, but has Eakins made any of the kids better players so far this season?

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#20 Rick Stroppel
December 30 2013, 04:43PM
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ryan wrote:

I agree 100% , coach s taking a hard line approach with one guy. Think of the free passes ebs and hall got in their first two years. This guy is getting no chances..........

How could he not be producing playing 6 minutes a night with gadzic ,the only thing owrse would be putting him with belanger lol

So Eberle and Hall got "free passes" in their first two years did they? Please look back in their careers and see if they did the following over a forty game period, half a season, in the NHL:

(1) Fourteen points.

(2) One (Two?) even strength goals.

(3) Minus 25.

(4) Publicly says he doesn't like to play defence.

(5) Allows his agent to come to town and gripe. Rather like the parent in Pee Wee hockey who complains to coach that Sonny Boy is not getting enough ice time.

Yakupov is not being singled out. He deserves everything he is getting.

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#21 -30-
December 30 2013, 01:25PM
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Nothing wrong with scratching a young player.

Didn't Eakins say that he WOULD make players responsible and that they would have to EARN their icetime?

I know some would suggest that others should be benched first but really, you can't bench the whole team at once.

Give the young guy some time to learn his role just like Kadri had to.

-30-

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#22 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 01:35PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Even so, the competition is still easier on the 3/4 line as opposed to 1/2. Even if the Oilers' 3rd line was more like a teams 5th forward line (if there were such a thing), it still doesnt change the fact that Yakupov is failing vs competition that is weaker than the competition he'd face if he were in the top 6.

Eakins ist schweinlugner.

Wen unterstutzt du? Ich interssierre mich fur Oilers, nikht Eakins.

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#23 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 01:59PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

So what you're saying is that the only real way to shelter him is to send to the AHL for awhile so he can get way more minutes, learn the defensive side of the game and gain some confidence....I think you're on to something there!

I didn't say that, I asked a question.

The way you pay attention-you could be a 2C on Eakins team.

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#24 RexHolez
December 30 2013, 02:22PM
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Yakupov needs Ice time in all situations to learn and grow. This is a ridiculous move and Eakins just keeps getting harder and harder to support.

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#25 **
December 30 2013, 02:40PM
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A-Mc wrote:

I dont understand the love that so many of you have for Yakupov.

Here are a few little fun facts:

1. The higher up the roster a player is, the tougher the competition is going to be for that player - GENERALLY SPEAKING. ex) Nuge plays much tougher competition than Lander or Acton.

2. Even on the 3rd or 4th line, Yakupov's line is being outplayed. read: Outplayed vs weak competition.

3. When Yak is put into the top 6, those lines don't perform as well. Also, he continues to fail to produce even with the good line mates.

Yakupov is a microcosm for our entire team. The Oilers have high offensive potential but they can't seem to figure out their defensive game. High Risk. This style of play is clearly enabling us to be picking top 5 for the 4th time in 5 years at the draft. The Oilers will move up the standings when they start playing better defensive hockey; Yakupov will move up the lines when he starts playing better defensive hockey.

Until then, both the Oilers and Yakupov will be bottom feeders. It's time to break the bad habits and it certainly looks like Eakin's is trying to do that. GJ Coach, keep it going.

YOur first point is just plain uninformed. Gordon plays the tough minutes. Comparing Nuge with Lander or Yak is like comparing Potter with Shea Webber or Ryan Sutter.

Second point, again, misinformed, because, again, Gordon plays third line.

Third point, difficult to asses on black and white. Yakupov played on those lines sometimes against tougher teams where none of his line mates did scrap. Goaltending was also horrible during some of those games, so don't blame it on Yakupov alone.

Next time please learn the difference between fact and opinion

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#26 6zeppelin6
December 30 2013, 12:44PM
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I guess accountability only applies when you are russian.

Sam Gagner gets a free pass for his piss poor performance though.

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#27 Nori know
December 30 2013, 12:57PM
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Coach Eakins, is this a revenge on Yak for being out spoken? I see some other players who should be scratched before Yak. For instance, Sam, jr Shultz , Ebe, so on.....

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#28 sizzay
December 30 2013, 01:31PM
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I think Ray Ferraro said it well with Anthony Mantha at the WJ tourney on the weekend.

He spoke about Mantha's 1 dimensional capability and lack of effort at times. He added that most coaches prefer 200 foot players but that last 60 feet (in the offensive zone) is most important. You need goals to win games.

I understand wanting to make Yakupov a 200 foot player, but that wasn't his game when we drafted him and it isn't likely going to be his game in the future.

This kid is a finisher who can dish good passes and is willing to throw the body. He is not a shot blocker, he is not a fighter, he is not a grinder.

Why not stick him with Gordon and Hall? He has good chemistry with Hall, and Gordon can cover their asses defensively.

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#29 Cody Black
December 30 2013, 12:49PM
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There is nothing wrong with a young player learning from the press box. Sometimes you just need to step back from the game and re-boot.

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#30 bwar
December 30 2013, 12:56PM
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I really thought Yak was starting to turn a corner these last few games. Best to blame all our problems on him and send him to the pressbox.

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#31 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 06:39PM
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نفسه wrote:

إذا yakupov كان لها هذا الأداء نفسه تحت أي مدرب آخر في NHL تظن أنها سوف babying له، ونأمل أن يحصل على أفضل؟ أشك في ذلك.

لا أرى لماذا الناس ينقط خارجا على بعض الحب القاسي للyakupov. وقال انه لن يصبح لاعبا أفضل من خلال وجود من السهل مسيرته بأكملها.

وعلى الناس أن تكف عن الشكوى حول كيفية Gagner لا يحصل خدش. إيكنز يعرف رئيس عمال هو مشكوك في 2C هامشية ويعرف كيف موهوب وجيد yakupov هو ذلك عقد لهم نفس المستوى لا معنى له.

Insha'Allah

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#32 BIGDAWG
December 30 2013, 02:37PM
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That's it..Bench him again.. cause it was alllll Yaks fault the TEAM did squat for the better part of 2 and a half periods vs philly and did the absolute minimum vs the flames... This word accountability is a bunch of horse sheet... there are other players to bench not just petry, smyth and yak.......why did we get rid of Fistric and brown and smid again?? grit toughness and a lil bit of nasty... ya we don't need that at all... I have the Oilers logo and the nations logo on my truck......I really wish this team would get some friggin balls....and why is it that the coach says one thing and the team does nothing or the opposite?? I am really starting to wonder.. AND the I don't care factor is starting to creep in.. I can handle baby steps but I cant stand regression..

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#33 Fresh Mess
December 30 2013, 06:51PM
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40 Double D wrote:

Just play the kid. Ovechkin leads the league in goals and he's still -14.

How many cups has he won?

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#34 bazmagoo
December 30 2013, 10:33PM
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Eakins is trying to install a MacT brand of hockey into the Oilers, and we all know how effective that was during MacT's coaching reign. Outside of a lucky trade for Roloson and subsequent cup run, what did MacT ever accomplish with his style? MacT and Eakins - two 4th line grinders trying to teach the current breed of NHL elite talent to play their style of hockey - ridiculous. All you 1st tier fans, please stop going to the games. 2nd tier fans, get your Oilers fix from illegal internet streams. Stop feeding the incompetence!

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#35 **
December 30 2013, 02:17PM
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There are 5 other guys on the ice every time Yakupov is burned for a chance against. How come it is only his bad play that sticks out to the coach?. On a contending team Yakupov would be used for what he is, a goal scoring forward. There would be a good goalie, 2 soild defencemen, a responsible 2 way center, and another great forward. Yakupov would eventually get decent enough defensively. But on a sinking ship, it's hard to learn to swim when all your shipmates are going down with the ship.

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#36 **
December 30 2013, 02:45PM
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Quintana wrote:

Viva Yak city!!! Eakins cabron hijo de las mil putas!!!!

Yak city: ganar, o morir.

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#37 bulldog12
December 30 2013, 06:57PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Insha'Allah

This is Alberta Canada We speak English here.

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#38 jack
December 30 2013, 09:31PM
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when is eakins going to be a scratch

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#39 gus1000
December 30 2013, 09:55PM
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Does anyone remember how Claude Giroux started the season? He went 21 games without a goal. Does anyone remember what he did last year? He was a scoring machine. Does anyone remember how many minutes he spent on the 4th line? Me neither. Most likely none. Why? His coach knows what the player can do, and what his job is. And just because he was snake bit, it didn't mean he should be the 4th line guy.

The moral of my out to lunch story is, good players have doldrums. Giroux was not signed to block shots, play on the fourth line, and kill penalties. The Oilers did not spend a 1st overall pick on a fourth line plug. Putting hm there to learn a two way game with guys who either are barely in the league, or shouldn't be here at all, is pointless. He isn't learning what he needs to learn. Eakins is trying to kill the skill on this club. The goal differential is worse this year than last year when we played no defense. Why is that?? Because he doesn't understand his players.

Get Yak up front with at least one competent player to skate with, pass the puck to, and receive passes from. Now leave him there. The kid is walking on egg shells every game knowing the coach has this notion to send him to the pine with one tiny mistake. As mentioned by another post, Hall and Eberle made half a dozen doozys a night. They learned from it.

Father time is retiring, give those damn minutes to the kid we want to have for another decade. His plus minus argument is a joke due to various reasons, look at Eberle as an example. His is brutal, but -6 is from empty net goals. Pretty sure that makes the stat a little useless when discussing overall play. Yak has his moments, don't get me wrong, but on the right time, given a little leeway, he should get 30 a season.

Half of this roster has earned time off in the press box, yet only one guy seems to consistently get shipped up there. I think the coach is poor at best. Our special teams are worse this year and our goal differential is worse. His judgement to me seems extremely cloudy at this point.

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#40 Ed in PV
December 30 2013, 02:24PM
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** wrote:

There are 5 other guys on the ice every time Yakupov is burned for a chance against. How come it is only his bad play that sticks out to the coach?. On a contending team Yakupov would be used for what he is, a goal scoring forward. There would be a good goalie, 2 soild defencemen, a responsible 2 way center, and another great forward. Yakupov would eventually get decent enough defensively. But on a sinking ship, it's hard to learn to swim when all your shipmates are going down with the ship.

So are you suggesting that the only move the Oil have left is the "shelter him" in OKC?

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#41 BIGDAWG
December 30 2013, 02:37PM
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That's it..Bench him again.. cause it was alllll Yaks fault the TEAM did squat for the better part of 2 and a half periods vs philly and did the absolute minimum vs the flames... This word accountability is a bunch of horse sheet... there are other players to bench not just petry, smyth and yak.......why did we get rid of Fistric and brown and smid again?? grit toughness and a lil bit of nasty... ya we don't need that at all... I have the Oilers logo and the nations logo on my truck......I really wish this team would get some friggin balls....and why is it that the coach says one thing and the team does nothing or the opposite?? I am really starting to wonder.. AND the I don't care factor is starting to creep in.. I can handle baby steps but I cant stand regression..

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#42 RexHolez
December 30 2013, 02:42PM
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This is getting me more pissed off the more I think about this!! Just when you think the bottom of the pathetic barrel has been reached you realize we have an AHL coach ruining the career and spirit of our beloved Yak!! I need to stop keeping tabs on this sad sack of misery

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#43 Rick Stroppel
December 30 2013, 04:01PM
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(1) I know I have ragged on Eakins pretty good, but consider this. Some of us get to see the game in person. Some of us (like me) only get to see the game on TV, where all you see generally is the guy with the puck and two or three players around him. Eakins gets to see THE ENTIRE ICE SURFACE for every game and every practice. Eakins wants to win. The reason Yakupov is playing seven minutes is that Eakins believes they have a better chance to win when Yakupov is playing 7 minutes, not 20 minutes. (2) I agree a stint in the AHL may be a good idea BUT(a)apparently they were not able to teach Omark how to play defence down there, and (b) what if Yakupov totally lights it up against inferior competition, he may become even more convinced that the only thing he needs to worry about is offence. (3) Recently Yakupov publicly said something like, "I don't like to backcheck, I don't like to play without the puck". Yeah, I know, language barrier. Did anybody (like Larionov) explain to him what those comments meant? Did Yakupov apologize or backtrack? Nope. (4) Yakupov is clearly involved in a war of wills with the coach. If you allow a player to win a war like this, your team is doomed. (5) Two words: "Alexandre Daigle" I am not saying this because I WANT this to happen. But if Yakuov refuses to listen he should be traded, and quickly, while he still has the cachet of a number one overall pick.

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#44 Dan the Man
December 30 2013, 01:03PM
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I don't really have a big problem with Yakupov being scratched. He hasn't been good enough on most nights. I just wish Sam Gagner was held to the same level of accountability. I know it's tough to scratch him right now with Arcobello hurt but what about the rest of the season?

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#45 Arius Mumin
December 30 2013, 01:23PM
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@A-Mc

Most oppositions 4th lines are way better than Oilers 3rd line, and sometimes even the 2nd.

When you are playing on the worst line on the worst NHL team: what exactly is a sheltered minute?

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#46 40 Double D
December 30 2013, 02:42PM
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Just play the kid. Ovechkin leads the league in goals and he's still -14.

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#47 Rama Lama
December 30 2013, 03:48PM
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meh... wrote:

First,I like Yakupov.The upside on him has to be considered as huge.

Yakupov has not played well.

Yakupov would benefit greatly from some quality ice time in the minors in all types of situations in all types of game conditions.Winning,losing,power play, last minutes of games etc

The argument that he may bolt for the KHL if sent to the minors is weak. If the kid wants to leave because he gets sent to the minors to improve his ability, then who cares if he leaves???? 20 year old rookies don't get to make ultimatums to the teams that draft them, whether they are from Russia or Vegreville.

I don't believe he'd want to leave for the Motherland just because a trip to Oklahoma City for more ice time was prescribed for his over-all improvement.

It is the job of the General Manager to make these decisions and then to convey these messages to players, especially young,struggling players.That means our leadership needs to lead.

Please, MacT, I'm begging you...lead.

Probably the best comment here in quite a while!

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#48 **
December 30 2013, 05:54PM
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Fatbob24 wrote:

Why? this site is based on opinion, hardly ever fact. Push off.

Because he started off by saying "here's a few fun FACTS", his words not mine. How about you read the whole thing before talking trash and then F$%k off?

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#49 @Oilanderp
December 31 2013, 02:03AM
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Hockey parents are annoying.

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#50 Thumby
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What are Gagner's comparables like? I bet he deserves to sit and watch too.

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