Expect the Unexpected Healthy Scratch

Jonathan Willis
December 04 2013 02:54PM

TSN’s Ryan Rishaug tweets that we should expect head coach Dallas Eakins to make significant change to Edmonton’s line-up against Colorado, with the potential for some surprising healthy scratches. Who might they be?

The Replacements

As it stands, the Oilers don’t have many options because most of the team’s spares are injured. Leaving goaltenders out of the mix, here’s the list of players on the roster that didn’t play last night:

If all Eakins has is Gazdic, his options are minimal. If Larsen and/or Gordon is ready to return, that list of choices gets a lot longer.

Gazdic

If Eakins wants to scratch a winger, who might he choose?

First off: not David Perron.

Of the big names, both Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle are plausible choices. Hall has had a rough season but played reasonably well last night; Eberle’s had a better year but his defensive deficiencies popped up again against Phoenix. Either would be a huge surprise and fall into the “message sending” category of roster moves. Another option is Ales Hemsky, though that wouldn’t be as big of a shakeup and it’s far from clear he deserves it.

The rest of the options wouldn’t really count as surprises. Ryan Smyth has been a scratch before and is on the fourth line. Nail Yakupov has been a scratch before but his game seems to be coming around, however slowly. Ryan Jones has been a frequent scratch but again it’s unclear he deserves to be now. Jesse Joensuu richly deserves a night off, but that’s as unsurprising as it gets.

Gordon

If Boyd Gordon is ready to go, Eakins has some choices. Will Acton’s a fringe NHL player and an easy scratch; Mark Arcobello’s better but has also been a regular scratch for Eakins. Neither would be a surprise. At the other end of the spectrum, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins would be a bizarre scratch.

But Sam Gagner? No other player on the roster better meets at the centre of “veteran regular who would be a surprising scratch” and “deeply deserving of a night off.” Gagner is always controversial, and deeply unpopular at this exact moment in time thanks to last night’s game. If Gordon’s ready to go, Arcobello could take Gagner’s second line spot and Gagner could find himself sitting out a game.

Larsen

Every defenceman on the team is a plausible choice here. Jeff Petry is the team’s best defenceman but made big mistakes last night and has been error-prone of late. Andrew Ference, his regular partner on the top pairing, hasn’t really looked like a top-four defender in Edmonton. Anton Belov has largely been good but has been wildly inconsistent from game-to-game and looked really bad against Phoenix.

Justin Schultz is the guy I’d target, though, because for all of his talent he seems incapable of switching to any mode other than ‘cheat for offence.’ It’s not just simple mistakes, it’s his whole approach to the game.

Denis Grebeshkov would be a deeply unsurprising scratch, while Nick Schultz has been scratched before but after playing much better the last while doesn’t deserve that treatment now.

The Last Word

Eakins comment about resetting a player? They were in answer to a question about Jeff Petry.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 RexHolez
December 04 2013, 02:59PM
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Should scratch the entire team and bring up the barons

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#2 sizzay
December 04 2013, 03:07PM
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Sit Gagner, that fourth goal, aka the dagger, was due to his lack of coverage in the slot. Had that been Yakupov, the media would've jumped all over it.

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#3 Lowe Expectations
December 04 2013, 03:13PM
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If the Oilers were a horse, they would have shot it a long time ago. You look at the Phoenix roster and are amazed by the record. Then you see the commitment and effort. Even Ribiero for crying out loud. What is wrong with the individual makeup of this group.

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#4 vetinari
December 04 2013, 04:42PM
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You want a surprising scratch? Have Eakins watch the next game from the press box with the player scratches and put MacT behind the bench and then see how motivated the players become when the GM is standing behind them...

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#5 Joe Mamma
December 04 2013, 03:20PM
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Maybe we could put in an order to the Dirty Little SOB Frenchman factory. "Yes, we'd like to order 2 more David Perrons please. Oh really, you make them in center and defenceman varieties as well? In that case, make that 5."

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#6 Dan the Man
December 04 2013, 03:30PM
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Stauffer was ripping Dubnyk pretty good on his show today and so was Craig Simpson. Stauffer pointed out how as soon as Bryz got hurt Dubnyk played poorly again. Simpson said he played like a junior goalie last night and cited his rebound control among other things.

He was bad, especially on that 3rd goal, but the Oilers D zone coverage was terrible last night.

I think Joensuu deserves to sit and so does Gagner. Aside from pre-season and a couple of regular season games before he was hurt, Joensuu has been terrible. I have no words for Gagner. I've never been a Gagner hater but if hasn't figured things out defensively yet, it's hard to imagine that he ever will. If he is not sitting then he should at least be moved to the wing when Gordon is healthy. He can't win a draw and he can't play in his own zone.

Send Acton to OKC and bring up Lander and run RNH, Arco, Gordon and Lander as your centres.

And lastly, for the love of god, trade for a real defenseman because you know who is better than Grebeshkov? Smid and probably another 210 other NHL defenseman.

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#7 NsxZero
December 04 2013, 03:05PM
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Please don't let this build up into another 'Bold Moves' moment. I think we're already tired of waiting for something like that.

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#8 -30-
December 04 2013, 03:21PM
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The season is lost.

NOW it is possible to send a message up by bringing up AHLers and send a handful of the uninspired and unmotivated Oilers down.

There is nothing to lose and much to gain.

-30-

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#9 Blucifer Copperballs
December 04 2013, 03:24PM
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rindog wrote:

Jonathan

Would you be able to explain Hall's "rough season"?

I am expecting a bunch of data to follow, but I just would like an idea of what you meant when you typed that???

I know you were asking JW, but IMO, Hall's rough season has to do with putting pucks on net. He is still using his speed and gaining the zone, but doing nothing when he gets there, holding on to the puck too long.

Hall had a lot of success early on in the NHL by bearing down on defencemen and using them to screen a shot. Now he tries to do too much with it, like toe drags etc...

He just needs to run up the wing, cut inside and let it go on net. Even if the goalie holds it, a Ozone faceoff is better than a turnover on a bad pass or toe drag.

ughhh.... the toe drags on this team.

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#10 Oilerz4life
December 04 2013, 03:13PM
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Arco took Gagners spot at center in the line-up at practice, which is listed right on the Oilers web-site. Don't really need at a Rishaug tweet to figure that one out.

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#11 Cal
December 04 2013, 03:22PM
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I think like many Oiler fans, we have been a very patient group of fans, But last nights effort or lack there of was absolutely pathetic. I'm not sure If others noticed, but there were a lot of empty seats in the stands and I only watched the game till the end, just to see if the fans would boo the Oilers. From stupid penalties, poor passing, inconsistent passion of play. My Gawd, Oilers Organization, please pick it up while you still have fans!!!!

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#12 Ryan2
December 04 2013, 03:12PM
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Gagner should be the only forward to sit tonight. Why they rushed him back instead of letting Arcobello try to develop is still a mystery to me. I have never been a big Gagner fan and think his contract was a huge mistake (try to trade him now), but he is playing worse than ever before right now. With the team not going anywhere, why not put him back on the IR until he is fully healthy and see if any of the other options can make it? This season is already done.

On the back end, Petry has regressed and a game in the pressbox to observe would not be a bad thing. Yet another reason why they need to dump the assistants in charge of developing d-men. Huddy has done a good job of it wherever he went - maybe MacT can convince him to come back?

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#13 vetinari
December 04 2013, 09:47PM
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FireKLowe wrote:

Boy you are one stupid moron!!! The fcukhead 6 ring circus hired a rookie GM who in turn hired a rookie coach. Kevin Lowe is the fcukin architect of this debacle!

@fireklowe-- listen Brainiac, if you can't disagree with another person without a personal attack, you're the moron... Put on your big boy pants, grow a pair and post like an adult or go back to your village because they're obviously missing their idiot...

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#14 tileguy
December 04 2013, 04:50PM
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vetinari wrote:

You want a surprising scratch? Have Eakins watch the next game from the press box with the player scratches and put MacT behind the bench and then see how motivated the players become when the GM is standing behind them...

Bold move my friend, bold move. I like it.

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#15 Alsker
December 04 2013, 03:10PM
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Well if history has taught us anything, Arco out 94 to center(if Gordon unable to go), Gadzic in for Jonesuu(maybe Yak) and maybe altering d pairings. Yup that would about do it. Of course Gags, one of the chosen ones and Petry should enjoy the popcorn and the view from above but I'll believe that when i see it.

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#16 Clarko
December 04 2013, 04:55PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Who knows! That's my point.

There is a fairly large group of fans that seem to think Lowe is responsible for everything these days, and they don't have 1 shred of evidence to support the idea that Lowe has anything to do with Anything!

Fans see that he's been here for a long time and that the oilers have sucked for a long time, and they equate the two. But in actual fact, none of us know exactly what he does, if anything.

So wouldnt it be horrific for most of you if you found out he really has nothing to do with personnel or coaching?

Most of us don't know exactly what role he plays because most of us aren't part of the organization.

But, here is what we do know. Kevin Lowe has been either the Coach, General Manager, or President of Hockey Operations for the past 14 season including this one. This will be the 10th time in those 14 years they have missed the playoffs. He was responsible for hiring both Tambellini and MacT.

What irks me is that he pretended everything was going to plan after being questioned about the team missing the playoffs for the 7th consecutive season. If everything was going to plan, why are you firing your GM who was carrying out that plan and your coach who actually helped improved the team from 29th to 24th place? And then promoted a guy who was just fired a few seasons ago?

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#17 Ryan2
December 04 2013, 03:19PM
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Lowe Expectations wrote:

If the Oilers were a horse, they would have shot it a long time ago. You look at the Phoenix roster and are amazed by the record. Then you see the commitment and effort. Even Ribiero for crying out loud. What is wrong with the individual makeup of this group.

They have a far better blue line, but coaching plays a huge part in their success as well. Tippett is a very good coach, at this point Eakins is not. Maybe he will become one, but it does not look like it will happen here......

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#18 Walter Sobchak
December 04 2013, 03:27PM
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Is this really a debate?

Arcobelo looked good & at times bad, but no where near the level of suck Gagner showed last night.

If Eakins wants to send a message then these players need to sit.

Gagner

Eberle

Petry or Schultz Jr. Since Shultz Jr is going to be here long term, send the message now!

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#19 Chainsawz
December 04 2013, 04:34PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Wouldn't it also horrify many Oilers fans to learn that Kevin Lowe has nothing to do with any of the goings-on with relation to the on ice product?

50% or more of the OilersNation fan base would be at a loss for something to complain about.. well maybe that's taking it a bit too far. I'd give them a solid day to be at a loss for words; then they'd revert to old habits and blame Horcoff.

If you are looking small view, then yes, he has nothing to do with on ice product.

But considering he is the guy who extended Tambellini and hired MacTavish, he's responsible for finding men that can properly run a team and that has a direct effect of the on ice product. I'm sure he has a say in the scouting department too.

If he truly has no effect on the on ice product, time to get a president that does make a positive impact.

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#20 He Who Knows
December 04 2013, 03:42PM
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Kevin Lowe and his minions. Katz fleeced the city with the arena deal. Kind of reminds me of the Monorail episode on the Simpsons. EIG, please save this franchise once more. We as a city need to unite and take back our team.

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#21 corky
December 04 2013, 03:58PM
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Most of these players are long term signed. What is a night in the press box going to do? They can rest easy knowing Eakins will be gone well before they are.

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#22 Ari Gold
December 04 2013, 06:36PM
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Can we scratch Lowe, MacT & Eakins?

Anyone got Ralph Kruegers number?

How about Lindy Ruff? Ted Nolan? I heard that AV and Torts were fired recently. Any of them available? I guess the ship has sailed on Ken Hitchcock since his firing in Columbus?

You know, a NHL coach with proven playoff experience would be a good fit here.

So many decent coaches available and we have to make a 'bold' (stupid) signing on an unknown. We've got enough question-marks in the lineup, coach too?

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#23 rindog
December 04 2013, 03:11PM
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Jonathan

Would you be able to explain Hall's "rough season"?

I am expecting a bunch of data to follow, but I just would like an idea of what you meant when you typed that???

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#24 Rama Lama
December 04 2013, 06:30PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Who knows! That's my point.

There is a fairly large group of fans that seem to think Lowe is responsible for everything these days, and they don't have 1 shred of evidence to support the idea that Lowe has anything to do with Anything!

Fans see that he's been here for a long time and that the oilers have sucked for a long time, and they equate the two. But in actual fact, none of us know exactly what he does, if anything.

So wouldnt it be horrific for most of you if you found out he really has nothing to do with personnel or coaching?

We still want him fired, if he does nothing like you suggest, even more reason to fire him!!!!!

You know what the standing joke is around the Katz household?............what is 18 inches long and hangs between Katz's legs?

........Klowe's tie.

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#25 Do bolo
December 04 2013, 07:38PM
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MacTavish should scratch Eakins permanently and reset the coaching mistake that he made.

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#26 Baresnake
December 04 2013, 03:00PM
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"Scratch theMall" - Jeanshorts

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#27 S cottV
December 04 2013, 03:36PM
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While a shake up is probably in order, why would Eakins let Ryan Rishaug tweet left and right about it - in public? Lets really get the players - not playing for you Eakins....

If the shake up is off the wall surprising, it may be a sign of some desperation kicking in. Maybe Eakins is finally getting his @ss kicked around his office, when MacT walks in and closes the door for a chat.

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#28 Spydyr
December 04 2013, 06:05PM
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Sit Gagner.Hell no trade Pam (point a month) since March 2013 Gagner. I know it is two years to late but better late then never.

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#29 Freewheeling Freddie
December 04 2013, 07:33PM
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Chabot Bucky and Smith should all sit .Larry Curly and Mo

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#30 FireKLowe
December 04 2013, 09:38PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Who knows! That's my point.

There is a fairly large group of fans that seem to think Lowe is responsible for everything these days, and they don't have 1 shred of evidence to support the idea that Lowe has anything to do with Anything!

Fans see that he's been here for a long time and that the oilers have sucked for a long time, and they equate the two. But in actual fact, none of us know exactly what he does, if anything.

So wouldnt it be horrific for most of you if you found out he really has nothing to do with personnel or coaching?

Boy you are one stupid moron!!! The fcukhead 6 ring circus hired a rookie GM who in turn hired a rookie coach. Kevin Lowe is the fcukin architect of this debacle!

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#31 tileguy
December 04 2013, 03:29PM
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What's the point, eakins has lost the room. Oiler fans, please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WINDtlPXmmE

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#32 A-Mc
December 04 2013, 03:50PM
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DonDon wrote:

I just read that HBO is about to videotape all the aspects of the activities of the Toronto Maple Leafs to produce a documentary series about the club to reveal what happens on and off the ice. Cameramen and sound people will hover over the team on flights, in the dressing room, every team meeting, everything.

Apparently, this ties into the promo on cable TV of the team's participation in this season's Winter Classic.

Imagine if it was the Oilers instead of the Leafs. Imagine the public exposure and embarrassment of witnessing a dysfunctional team and its inept management that is pointed to miss the playoffs for the eight consecutive season.

Lucky us it's the Leafs.

Wouldn't it also horrify many Oilers fans to learn that Kevin Lowe has nothing to do with any of the goings-on with relation to the on ice product?

50% or more of the OilersNation fan base would be at a loss for something to complain about.. well maybe that's taking it a bit too far. I'd give them a solid day to be at a loss for words; then they'd revert to old habits and blame Horcoff.

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#33 tileguy
December 04 2013, 03:54PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Wouldn't it also horrify many Oilers fans to learn that Kevin Lowe has nothing to do with any of the goings-on with relation to the on ice product?

50% or more of the OilersNation fan base would be at a loss for something to complain about.. well maybe that's taking it a bit too far. I'd give them a solid day to be at a loss for words; then they'd revert to old habits and blame Horcoff.

So what's his role then?

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#34 oilerjed
December 04 2013, 03:55PM
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Cal wrote:

I think like many Oiler fans, we have been a very patient group of fans, But last nights effort or lack there of was absolutely pathetic. I'm not sure If others noticed, but there were a lot of empty seats in the stands and I only watched the game till the end, just to see if the fans would boo the Oilers. From stupid penalties, poor passing, inconsistent passion of play. My Gawd, Oilers Organization, please pick it up while you still have fans!!!!

I think the more telling fact was that at the end of the game there was nothing but silence........ Disengaged fans are worse then pissed off fans IMO. With around 2 of the season left thats a long time for fans to tune out. Wake up Katz!

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#35 ghostofberanek
December 04 2013, 03:56PM
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Hall should absolutely be sat, and should start with different linemates upon his return. Points aren't everything, and his giveaways and generally boneheaded plays are becoming a hindrance. We've seen what he can do in the past, and he's not doing it. Split up the top line!

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#36 Rama Lama
December 04 2013, 04:03PM
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This coach will do what is politically expedient and not bench the right players. Players that need to be benched should include Sam Gagner, J Schultz, Hemsky, Yakapov, and especially Duby!

Anyone else would be a stretch.

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#37 Soccer Steve
December 04 2013, 07:04PM
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How amazing would it be if the players were paid based on overall team performance over a season?

I argue firmly that we would still be dead last (or thereabouts) but AT LEAST we, the fan, could take solace in the fact that the undeserving players on our crappy team wouldn't make more than us.

Yet here we are. Twenty year olds with millions of guaranteed dollars.

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#38 Chainsawz
December 04 2013, 10:02PM
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A-Mc wrote:

I'm not convinced that the hiring of Mac T was a mistake. All sources say Mac T is a smart and capable guy, not some hot head living in the past. Also, Mac T provided more change in 1 summer than the team has seen in the previous 3. The changes that haven't worked out, were small risks that at worst would spend a rich mans money needlessly (ie: who cares). The changes that have worked out (Gordon/perron and IMO Belov) were excellent, especially the 2 forwards.

The only thing Mac T hasn't lived up to is his own ambitions, and I'm ok with that.

You don't know that he's responsible for scouting. for all you know, he could be responsible for booking hotels and flights and making sure TD Fores gets paid and has a steady supply of stitching.

Aside from hanging onto Tambolini longer than fans would have liked, what do you KNOW about what he's done that is negatively affecting the team today?

Tambolini looks like he was always meant to be the fall guy. His job was to sit patient, say the right (wrong) thing to the media, and basically BullShart his way through a few cellar years. He succeeded at that.

Your final statement suggests you know that presidents make a positive and direct impact on the on-ice product. Can you please share with us what you KNOW about other presidents and how they are helping the Wins column?

PS: I just want to add that i'm not at all defending KLowe. I'm simply stating that a good chunk of this community complains about a guy whom they know absolutely nothing about. Their gripes are pure conjecture and are not based on fact. They might be right! but they also might be wrong.. and that's my point

First off, I don't really know 100% for sure.

If Kevin Lowe isn't hiring GM's, giving input into scouting staffs, supporting the GM,and the like then who is? Who is left in the front office making these calls? Why is he telling us about what he knows about winning if he doesn't make a single decision in the organization?

If your answer is since we don't 100% know so we shouldn't speculate, then fine. But who in the organization should be the most knowledgable about the hockey operations and its many shortcomings and failures? So if Lowe isn't the man then he really should get the title of his position changed to President of Katz's Dinner Party Guest List.

As for other Presidents of Hockey Operations or similar that have made positive impacts on their teams, I'm going to puke a bit when I say this, but look a little south. Doubt Burke is just booking flights and rooms and buying suits. Think VP of Ops Sakic had nothing to do with bringing Roy to the Avs? Elementary stuff and I haven't even touched on the successful franchises like the Wings and co.

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#39 DonDon
December 04 2013, 03:46PM
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I just read that HBO is about to videotape all the aspects of the activities of the Toronto Maple Leafs to produce a documentary series about the club to reveal what happens on and off the ice. Cameramen and sound people will hover over the team on flights, in the dressing room, every team meeting, everything.

Apparently, this ties into the promo on cable TV of the team's participation in this season's Winter Classic.

Imagine if it was the Oilers instead of the Leafs. Imagine the public exposure and embarrassment of witnessing a dysfunctional team and its inept management that is pointed to miss the playoffs for the eight consecutive season.

Lucky us it's the Leafs.

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#40 pkam
December 04 2013, 04:04PM
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DonDon wrote:

I just read that HBO is about to videotape all the aspects of the activities of the Toronto Maple Leafs to produce a documentary series about the club to reveal what happens on and off the ice. Cameramen and sound people will hover over the team on flights, in the dressing room, every team meeting, everything.

Apparently, this ties into the promo on cable TV of the team's participation in this season's Winter Classic.

Imagine if it was the Oilers instead of the Leafs. Imagine the public exposure and embarrassment of witnessing a dysfunctional team and its inept management that is pointed to miss the playoffs for the eight consecutive season.

Lucky us it's the Leafs.

Didn't we already have something similar, the Oil Change, for 3 years in a row?

Is the Leafs really any better than the Oilers? They are one of the worst puck possession team and worst in shot differential. The two things they are better than us this year are the SV% and S%. Can they keep the SV% and S% this high and continue to win for the whole season, and make the playoff with about -10 S/G average? Not impossible but very unlikely.

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#41 A-Mc
December 04 2013, 04:49PM
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Chainsawz wrote:

If you are looking small view, then yes, he has nothing to do with on ice product.

But considering he is the guy who extended Tambellini and hired MacTavish, he's responsible for finding men that can properly run a team and that has a direct effect of the on ice product. I'm sure he has a say in the scouting department too.

If he truly has no effect on the on ice product, time to get a president that does make a positive impact.

I'm not convinced that the hiring of Mac T was a mistake. All sources say Mac T is a smart and capable guy, not some hot head living in the past. Also, Mac T provided more change in 1 summer than the team has seen in the previous 3. The changes that haven't worked out, were small risks that at worst would spend a rich mans money needlessly (ie: who cares). The changes that have worked out (Gordon/perron and IMO Belov) were excellent, especially the 2 forwards.

The only thing Mac T hasn't lived up to is his own ambitions, and I'm ok with that.

You don't know that he's responsible for scouting. for all you know, he could be responsible for booking hotels and flights and making sure TD Fores gets paid and has a steady supply of stitching.

Aside from hanging onto Tambolini longer than fans would have liked, what do you KNOW about what he's done that is negatively affecting the team today?

Tambolini looks like he was always meant to be the fall guy. His job was to sit patient, say the right (wrong) thing to the media, and basically BullShart his way through a few cellar years. He succeeded at that.

Your final statement suggests you know that presidents make a positive and direct impact on the on-ice product. Can you please share with us what you KNOW about other presidents and how they are helping the Wins column?

PS: I just want to add that i'm not at all defending KLowe. I'm simply stating that a good chunk of this community complains about a guy whom they know absolutely nothing about. Their gripes are pure conjecture and are not based on fact. They might be right! but they also might be wrong.. and that's my point

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#42 Serious Gord
December 04 2013, 07:26PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Wouldn't it also horrify many Oilers fans to learn that Kevin Lowe has nothing to do with any of the goings-on with relation to the on ice product?

50% or more of the OilersNation fan base would be at a loss for something to complain about.. well maybe that's taking it a bit too far. I'd give them a solid day to be at a loss for words; then they'd revert to old habits and blame Horcoff.

Or the opposite would be exposed...

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#43 Andrew
December 04 2013, 08:16PM
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Eakin's was late for practice today. I wonder if he was getting his pee pee smacked. If so it is somewhat overdue. He has sucked any confidence this group ever did have right out of the room. I also hope he was told to dump his AHL non-hackers from the line-up. Eakin's is a rookie and it shows. I don't like his odds of surviving to next season.

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#44 pkam
December 04 2013, 03:25PM
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Ryan2 wrote:

They have a far better blue line, but coaching plays a huge part in their success as well. Tippett is a very good coach, at this point Eakins is not. Maybe he will become one, but it does not look like it will happen here......

The strange thing is the Coyotes have scored more goals than us and and let in more goals than us, despite we should have better forwards and they have better goalie and defense.

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#45 Walter Sobchak
December 04 2013, 03:42PM
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Funny, if you look at the highlights on the Edmonton Oilers website two major things you notice.

the Coyotes ALWAYS win the battle for the puck, 9/10 times, the Coyotes dump in's were perfect, They almost always come up with the puck and they hit the Oilers blue line with speed.

The Oilers never collapsed to the net, there is always an extra opposing player around the net, the other team almost expecting a rebound.

The last game the Oilers could have lost due to the same concept teams are using against the Oilers, get it on net, crash the net and out man them, they won't collapse and help the goalie out.

Just a couple minor things I noticed at the games that I can't understand why they don't get changed?

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#46 Tikkanese
December 04 2013, 04:28PM
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2 games ago Gagner looked like he was "feeling it" again and I was excited that he was rolling back into form. After last night, I need to re-think my inks.

Petry would be sitting on a contender right now based on his play as of late, but our other options are really sad making him one of our top 2 d-men. Sad.

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#47 Shaun
December 04 2013, 07:32PM
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Sit Gagner, i have always liked gags but after his jaw injury he has been terrible he needs to see the game from the press box. If Larsen is healthy he needs to play and take out crappy freakin Grebeshkov

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#48 Oiler Al
December 04 2013, 10:06PM
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Who knows! That's my point.

There is a fairly large group of fans that seem to think Lowe is responsible for everything these days, and they don't have 1 shred of evidence to support the idea that Lowe has anything to do with Anything!

Fans see that he's been here for a long time and that the oilers have sucked for a long time, and they equate the two. But in actual fact, none of us know exactly what he does, if anything.

So wouldnt it be horrific for most of you if you found out he really has nothing to do with personnel or coaching?

Wronggo...its obvious Lowe has/had a lot to do with the building of this team... the living proof is on the ice.... Why.. because there is only one person that could build such a terrible team.. and that's Lowe.

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#49 A-Mc
December 04 2013, 04:08PM
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tileguy wrote:

So what's his role then?

Who knows! That's my point.

There is a fairly large group of fans that seem to think Lowe is responsible for everything these days, and they don't have 1 shred of evidence to support the idea that Lowe has anything to do with Anything!

Fans see that he's been here for a long time and that the oilers have sucked for a long time, and they equate the two. But in actual fact, none of us know exactly what he does, if anything.

So wouldnt it be horrific for most of you if you found out he really has nothing to do with personnel or coaching?

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#50 bulldog12
December 04 2013, 06:15PM
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Who's kidding who Eakins is going to sit the 4th line guys and the 5 6 dmen The ones that only play 5 to 8 minutes a night and only have minimum effect on the out come of the game He doesn't have the balls to sit one of the top line guy's.

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