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Lowetide
December 06 2013 06:58PM

Last night Martin Marincin played in his first NHL game, making it three for the show from the 2010 Entry Draft for the Edmonton Oilers. Taylor Hall made it in the fall of 2010, Tyler Pitlick a few short weeks ago and Marincin last night. How often do the Oilers have three players from one draft play in an NHL game? How often do they draft three players who end up playing 200 or more games? 500? More after the jump.

Since 1979, the Oilers have taken part in 35 drafts, and the numbers are fascinating:

  • How many times have 3 players drafted by the Oilers played in one NHL game? This is very common. The only seasons that are outside this range are 1990 (when no one played in an NHL game), 2006 (Petry and Peckham), 2009 (Paajarvi and Lander) and the three most recent seasons.
  • How many times have 3 players drafted by the Oilers played in 200 NHL games each? The early years (1979, 1980, 1981) built this city's hockey legacy, but the Oilers also turned the trick in 1987 (Brad Werenka, Geoff Smith and Shaun Van Allen), 1989 (Josef Beranek, Peter White, Anatoli Semenov), 1991 (Tyler Wright, Martin Rucinsky, David Oliver), 1993, 1996 (Boyd Devereaux, Tom Poti, Fernando Pisani). That's 8 in 35 years, but none in many years—that may change as the recent seasons fly more sorties.  
  • How many times have 3 players drafted by the Oilers played in 500 NHL games each? 1979 was crazy (Lowe, Messier, Anderson) and 1980 was too (Coffey, Kurri and Moog), but 1993 (Arnott, Satan, Vyborny) also turned the trick, although most of the talent was traded away for beans.

D-FENSE

Jeff Petry is an example of recent drafting success for the Oilers among blueliners. He's now played in 185 NHL games and will pass 200 later this season. How many defensemen has Edmonton drafted who have played more than 200? 500? Here's the list:

  1. Paul Coffey (1980) 1409
  2. Kevin Lowe (1979) 1254
  3. Tom Poti (1996) 824
  4. Steve Smith (1981) 804
  5. Jeff Beukeboom (1983) 804
  6. Matt Greene (2002) 481
  7. Geoff Smith (1987) 462
  8. Brad Werenka (1987) 320
  9. Francois Leroux (1988) 249
  10. Alexei Semenov (1999) 211

Petry will be the 11th Oiler drafted defenseman in 35 years of the draft to play 200 games, and there have been 5 blue to play in over 500 games. So, should Marincin (or Nurse or Klefbom) play in 200 games they'll stand out and if they make it too 500 it'll be worthy of a celebration.

The Oilers don't spend their dear picks on defensemen.

HOW LONG BEFORE WE CAN MAKE THE CALL?

I believe it takes 5 years before you can really see a specific draft, and the 2010 draft is a good example. Before this season, we didn't really know if Martin Marincin would ever play a game (although he was tracking well), but now he's done it and didn't look like an alien so maybe there's more opportunity in the future. Tyler Pitlick is also from the 2010 draft, and looked miles better than we thought he would based on the scouting reports on boxcar numbers.

We don't know about these players, they're still just kids really. Hell, Anton Lander has some traction this season based on a nice Oklahoma City start.

One thing I believe we can predict: the number of Oiler picks (defense) who have been drafted and will play more than 200 NHL games is going to be moving up in the next several years.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

It takes a long while to properly evaluate a specific draft era, and we can make the call on all drafts 2008 and previous, but even the 2009 draft has some more blacktop before we know what we're dealing with for the Oilers.

Patience.

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#1 D
December 06 2013, 07:06PM
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If Marincin is going to have a first NHL game, it might as well be a blowout win by the Oilers.

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#2 dawgtoy
December 06 2013, 07:15PM
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I thought some Roxy Music by the title LT.

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#4 michael
December 06 2013, 08:09PM
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Petry needs to get his head out of his ass and start thinking when he is on the ice. Rather than being reactionary. He needs to be a little more cerebral and start thinking the game. It begins and ends from the neck up. He has it in him. Just wish we would see it more often. Lately he is like chicken with its head cut off. Brutal. But the truth is always painful to hear.

Potter out. Petry in.

I like Larsen. He thinks the game well. Needs to be teamed up with someone with size. Marincin? Larsen like J Shultz needs a partner with some beef.

The critics take shots like a Cowboy on a Friday night at a saloon. Today after an 8-2 samckdown of the Avalanche several of those critics found fodder in one Yakupov. The blame for the one goal fell on him. A 2 skate deflection? really you blame Yak for that? Or his lack of offense.

My take is that Yak will find his stride.He'll find his mojo. I want for him to do well 5x5. But what I'll take is a linemate who gets 3 goals. And another scores a goal too. Gagner,Yak and Halls line had a good night. The fact that Yaks name did not appear on the scoresheet is secondary to an Oiler win.

Yak will get his. Eventually. He is to talented. he is struggling but as a layer with less than 80 games under his NHL belt I think we can give the kid some slack. Don't you think?

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#5 michael
December 06 2013, 08:09PM
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Petry needs to get his head out of his ass and start thinking when he is on the ice. Rather than being reactionary. He needs to be a little more cerebral and start thinking the game. It begins and ends from the neck up. He has it in him. Just wish we would see it more often. Lately he is like chicken with its head cut off. Brutal. But the truth is always painful to hear.

Potter out. Petry in.

I like Larsen. He thinks the game well. Needs to be teamed up with someone with size. Marincin? Larsen like J Shultz needs a partner with some beef.

The critics take shots like a Cowboy on a Friday night at a saloon. Today after an 8-2 samckdown of the Avalanche several of those critics found fodder in one Yakupov. The blame for the one goal fell on him. A 2 skate deflection? really you blame Yak for that? Or his lack of offense.

My take is that Yak will find his stride.He'll find his mojo. I want for him to do well 5x5. But what I'll take is a linemate who gets 3 goals. And another scores a goal too. Gagner,Yak and Halls line had a good night. The fact that Yaks name did not appear on the scoresheet is secondary to an Oiler win.

Yak will get his. Eventually. He is to talented. he is struggling but as a layer with less than 80 games under his NHL belt I think we can give the kid some slack. Don't you think?

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#6 Fresh Mess
December 06 2013, 09:18PM
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I thought Bill Murray sang 'What's so funny about Peace Love and Understanding' by Elvis Costello in that movie.

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#7 Annoying Corrector Guy
December 06 2013, 09:55PM
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Alexei Semenov, not Anatoli.

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#8 v4ance
December 06 2013, 10:00PM
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Under your list of defencemen, you have mistakenly put Anatoli Semenov instead of Alexei Semenov. Anatoli was a center during the 90-92 seasons and my favorite Oiler.(#19)

I remember Alexei as a shaky prospect in need of much polishing in the few games that he played for the Oilers before we traded him to Florida.

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#9 Retsinnab5
December 06 2013, 11:17PM
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Defence in 2015-2016

Petry J.Schultz

Nurse Ference

Marincin Klefbom/Free agent or trade

Extras:

Fedun Davidson

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#10 Retsinnab5
December 06 2013, 11:20PM
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Belov Recalled again.

Someone tell Kevin Lowe thats the wrong way to collect air miles...

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#11 Taylor Gang
December 06 2013, 11:27PM
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Maybe all of those years of drafting coke machines after the first overall picks will pay off! Or at least Zharkov will be better than Yakupov...

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#12 Batfink
December 06 2013, 11:42PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Yes, that's the song Bill Murray is singing in the gif.

I believe his real name is Bill F. Murray, or BFM for shortsies. Great movie. 'Cos Scar Jo.

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#13 @Oilanderp
December 07 2013, 12:12AM
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I'm gonna hold off until 2015 until I make up my mind as to whether or not Taylor Hall is a player. That's the 5-year window right?

*crosses fingers*

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#14 Romanus
December 07 2013, 12:27AM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

Belov Recalled again.

Someone tell Kevin Lowe thats the wrong way to collect air miles...

If you knew how it worked you would know he never left the city.

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#15 Reg Dunlop
December 07 2013, 12:29AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Yes, that's the song Bill Murray is singing in the gif.

Bill Murray can't sing but Brian Ferry can. Avalon has to be in my top 10 albums all time.

As for the putrid draft record of the oil, they are overdue to hit a few homeruns, maybe Nurse, Marincin and derBomber; just like ten straight coin tosses coming up heads means the next one is tails for sure. It does work that way, doesn't it?

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#16 Danger Pay
December 07 2013, 01:29AM
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I'm still so happy they drafted Nurse, that kid is gunna be a beast!!!!

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#17 oilers2k10
December 07 2013, 02:13AM
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If the Oilers can somehow draft Ekblad after this season then their defence is set for the next decade..just a matter of maturing.

In the meantime MacT needs to find a top 4 pairing defenceman without giving up one of the 5 kids.

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#18 Ryan
December 07 2013, 05:27AM
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How does this stack up against other teams that draft well, say a Detroit?

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#19 Taylor Gang
December 07 2013, 08:00AM
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oilers2k10 wrote:

If the Oilers can somehow draft Ekblad after this season then their defence is set for the next decade..just a matter of maturing.

In the meantime MacT needs to find a top 4 pairing defenceman without giving up one of the 5 kids.

Even without Ekblad our defense will be set, as long as we get some solid vets to mentor Klefbom and Nurse.

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#20 Fresh Mess
December 07 2013, 08:00AM
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v4ance wrote:

Under your list of defencemen, you have mistakenly put Anatoli Semenov instead of Alexei Semenov. Anatoli was a center during the 90-92 seasons and my favorite Oiler.(#19)

I remember Alexei as a shaky prospect in need of much polishing in the few games that he played for the Oilers before we traded him to Florida.

(Anatoli)Tony Semenov was one of my favourite Russian players and one that I would have on my team any day. He would do anything the team needed. could play all forward positions and would block a shot with his face if need be.

He was on the list with Vlad the Impaler, Ulanov, and a few others of Russians I would have on my team. The polar opposite of Fail, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk etc

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#21 Edsez
December 07 2013, 08:38AM
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It's also noteworthy, since the 90s, how few reach any of those milestones as as Oiler but not all of them can make the lineup so some will be traded.

Along with the, above mentioned, follow-up article on the oiler's record compared to the rest of the league, I'd like to hear what prospects are generating interest from other teams

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#22 gcw_rocks
December 07 2013, 10:35AM
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Compare the Oilers success to the Kings or the Blackhawks and then you get a better picture. Maybe compare since the 2000 draft for a nice cut off. That would mean the oldest players in the range would be about 32.

I think Ekblad would be great for the Oilers, but them I would want to see them deal Klefbom to fill a need for next season. Gagner and Klefbom for Shattenkirk and a pick maybe? Yakupov and Klefbom for Ekman-Larsen?

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#23 Rob
December 07 2013, 10:45AM
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You will never pull Ekman-Larsen out of Phoenix, especially for Yak and Klefbom.

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#24 Rama Lama
December 07 2013, 11:22AM
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I want very much to see Yaks do well..........the thing with his game is he only has one gear.....overdrive.

The big difference separating good hockey players from great hockey players is being multi-dimensional knowing when to switch gears when required. It seems the more I watch Yaks, all I see is some kid skating really, really, fast accomplishing absolutely nothing. Someone should make him watch videos of Jarri Kurri, maybe he will learn something.

I say it's time to package Yaks and whatever else it takes for PK Subban. The combination of PK and Nurse is exactly what we need.

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#25 Oiler Al
December 07 2013, 02:22PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I want very much to see Yaks do well..........the thing with his game is he only has one gear.....overdrive.

The big difference separating good hockey players from great hockey players is being multi-dimensional knowing when to switch gears when required. It seems the more I watch Yaks, all I see is some kid skating really, really, fast accomplishing absolutely nothing. Someone should make him watch videos of Jarri Kurri, maybe he will learn something.

I say it's time to package Yaks and whatever else it takes for PK Subban. The combination of PK and Nurse is exactly what we need.

Not likely Hab's let Subban go,as well as the fact that PK's childhood dream team was the Habs.

But while we are dreaming .. I would send Yak and Jr. Shcultz to Mtl. for PK.Not sure how the RFA would play out.

Readsomewhere , that he is looking for something in the $8million range... !!!

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#26 oilfan
December 07 2013, 02:54PM
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D-Fense ? are we living in Murica? Defence is the proper way to spell this. With a C

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