SCENES FROM A MAUL

Lowetide
December 08 2013 07:41AM

The Edmonton Oilers won the battle last night, but once again lost the war. The shot differential said Edmonton was well clear of the Flames (52-33) but the final score told us Calgary won the day. The story of last night was execution, and at this point I'm in favor of it.

SHOT DIFFERENTIAL BEATDOWN

The Oilers had a field day last night based on even-strength shots for and against (my thanks to Michael Parkatti for the table above), hell the guy they benched went 12-0 in the discipline. The problem for Edmonton? They're a miserable team without the puck and increasingly they are not willing to do the hard work of getting it back.

I'm not a guy who talks about "physical presence" or "someone to get in your face" very much, because for the most part I do believe those things are overrated. However, this edition of the Edmonton Oilers needs someone to light a fire under their ass, the way Glen Sather did with the Boys on the Bus when they were pissing about instead of eating their vegetables. This team could use a whole lot less "Harlem Globetrotters" skill and a lot more lunchpail work ethic and attention to detail.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There are two ways out of this:

  1. Impress upon these players that "fleeing the zone for offense" is treason, and that you're letting the team down.
  2. Trade one or two of these players for new ones in order to grab the group's attention. 

I bet Craig MacTavish is edging closer to the second option. The Edmonton Oilers are going to finish last with Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Justin Schultz, they can sure as hell finish last without them.

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#1 mayorblaine
December 08 2013, 07:54AM
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MacT needs to decide what he wants, dreams or reality. He better darn well know what he has.

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#2 Wintoon
December 08 2013, 08:00AM
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I detest 'broad street bully' hockey where intimidation is the key tactic. I much prefer skilled hockey being on display. Having said this, I do expect a team to be competitive. If, occassionally, that means dropping the gloves then so be it. Dropping the gloves however is certainly not the key component of competitive. Current edition of the Oilers either needs to find a different level of compete or they need to be traded. LT has stated it beautifully and succinctly.

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#3 Soup
December 08 2013, 08:10AM
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Lowtide, a reason why you haven't included Yak in the list of last place culprits? I constantly read the comments about getting rid of Eberle to fill holes, but to me this is akin to trading Bossey. Yak is duplicated several times over on this roster. He is the one that should go.

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#5 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:19AM
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The problem is, the rest of the pro scouts in the league know what these guys are like. How's PRV doing? We won't get THAT deal again! We would have to take damaged goods back, as our wunder-kind MAY, I emphasise may before you all lynch me, be viewed as damaged goods themselves.

But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort. If you can't get motivated for a BOA on either team, then quit hockey. Terrible game for both teams, compounded by apathy all round.

Like it or not, these are the players we have going forward. So management better find what motivates these players and quick. Also, they clearly won the most important battles: Battle of the scoreboard, and the Battle of the coaches. Hartley obviously did his homework, as all the space and time that was available Thursday wasn't there last night.

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#6 Klima's Mullet
December 08 2013, 08:21AM
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"I bet Craig MacTavish is edging closer to the second option. The Edmonton Oilers are going to finish last with Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Justin Schultz, they can sure as hell finish last without them."

Wow, never thought of it from this angle...still think it's too early to trade RNH or Yak. Hall should not be traded...he is a franchise player.

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#7 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:21AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Yakupov is just finishing up his first 82 games, I don't think he's a guy we can blame for the overall mess this team is in currently.

That said, if the Oilers decided to deal him, your point about duplicate skills applies. The one thing about Yakupov that we can't forget is his shot: if he ever finds the range it's going to be amazing.

The woes of this team isn't on a rookie. Like joining a new company just before it goes belly up. Your fault, was it? And yes, strange that we didn't once try Yak on the one -timer last night.

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#8 RexHolez
December 08 2013, 08:22AM
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I keep telling myself that I don't care anymore and I'm not gonna bother watching... But I still do! Every comment I post on here is filled with anger, depression and cynism and I feel ashamed of myself. My Lord it's hard to be an oiler follower (not gonna call myself a fan anymore)

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#9 a lg dubl dubl
December 08 2013, 08:28AM
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First off, Great choice LT, Amy Smart is a hottie!

I think, MacT trades Eberle and Shultz jr.

I'd hate to see Ebs leave*, and is better defensively than Yakupov, but to get what this team needs, Eberle starts the convo with other gm's. Yak is to much of a liability with and without the puck.

Shultz, he just looks disinterested in everything, kinda like Yakupov lol.

The Oilers need a shake up, this seasons done, time to steer the ship towards a better season for next year, next year its playoffs or bust.

*please don't hunt me down and hurt me Wanye.

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#10 Cameron
December 08 2013, 08:30AM
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Good health, great family, good pension, winter home in the AZ, and the Oilers are spoiling my retirement!!

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#11 Retsinnab5
December 08 2013, 08:34AM
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Eakins said he was going to bring out the hard work of every player on any given night. I didn't see it tonight and i haven't seen it every night ether.

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#13 Oiler Al
December 08 2013, 08:38AM
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Flames goalie was No.1 star.. thanks to 24 blocked shots for Flames and 8 for Oilers.

Calgary had 9 giveaways, and Edmonton had 19.

The supposed Oiler All Stars, went 0-6 on the power play, that wont win you games.

One thing for sure, Oilers saving time and money on Gagners, and Hemsky's skating sharpening, sure cant dull the blades when you are gliding half the night.

PS>. Time to get some extra Wheaties for RNH been playing lately like he has not had meal in days.

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#14 steveb12344
December 08 2013, 08:40AM
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@Batfink

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

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#15 non descript
December 08 2013, 08:47AM
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wow. almost sounds like the eternal oiler optimist is pissed this morning.

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#16 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:51AM
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steveb12344 wrote:

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

High quality shots from low in the slot were they? Or kept to the half-boards, impossible angle, low percentage efforts. Lames did well to keep us to the outside and collapse in and 'PROTECT THIS HOUSE' when needed (I believe it's written on the wall of the players tunnel). We just didn't want it enough. Perron can't do it all. Any bunch of idiots can (and apparently did) phone it in from stupid angles because they can't/won't go to the tough areas when needed. Beaten by grinders, man, grinders.

Edit: I acknowledge we hit the iron twice. There's a reason it's not counted as a SOG. As my old pappy used to say, close only count's in horseshoes, holding hands and hand grenades. Might be the mental toughness, because of taking almost scoring as a positive and piling it on, the heads went down because they DIDN'T score. Big difference.

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#17 -30-
December 08 2013, 08:52AM
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With a season where there is nothing left to lose but pride what harm can be done by doing the "Petry" to a few of the top liners who are constantly cheating, giving the puck away or being lazy?

David Perron is setting an example of hard work that Ryan Smyth was supposed to when he was re-signed. Remember how the optimist in us was hoping that Smyth would show the youngsters how to work hard and get results?

Where did that go?

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#18 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:07AM
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Remember when Wayne predicted Gagner to be the next captain?

Now that was some funny $hit.

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#19 Geoff
December 08 2013, 09:11AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Remember when Wayne predicted Gagner to be the next captain?

Now that was some funny $hit.

Hindsight is always 20/20 lol

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#20 steveb12344
December 08 2013, 09:11AM
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Batfink wrote:

High quality shots from low in the slot were they? Or kept to the half-boards, impossible angle, low percentage efforts. Lames did well to keep us to the outside and collapse in and 'PROTECT THIS HOUSE' when needed (I believe it's written on the wall of the players tunnel). We just didn't want it enough. Perron can't do it all. Any bunch of idiots can (and apparently did) phone it in from stupid angles because they can't/won't go to the tough areas when needed. Beaten by grinders, man, grinders.

Edit: I acknowledge we hit the iron twice. There's a reason it's not counted as a SOG. As my old pappy used to say, close only count's in horseshoes, holding hands and hand grenades. Might be the mental toughness, because of taking almost scoring as a positive and piling it on, the heads went down because they DIDN'T score. Big difference.

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

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#21 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 09:11AM
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My question is why does Eberle, hall, gagner and Schulz junior get such a long leash.

My count last evening Gagner was only credited with two giveaway, I count 4. We need more from our coach to start benching, cutting ice time and press boxing some of the above players.

I didn't include Yak because he is really still in his 1st year and is 20yrs old. He should be forted the same as the others needs to learn by making some mistakes. The same reasoning was used on the others.

Trading Yak would be a mistake. He hits way more then Eberle and Hemsky combined, and awesome shot if they decide to pass to him. He has a lot of Hall in him. Loves to carry the puck and drive the play and is passionate. When he fills out and has more man strength he will be close to a Phill Kessel physique and skill set. He is not a duplicate of Eberle.

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#22 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:16AM
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Lowetide it is nice to see you finally coming over to the darkside.

We have a team the competes , stands up for it's teammates , does not take a shift off, backchecks, crashed the net, gives it better then they are getting it.Knows that a goal prevented is as important as a goal scored.

The team might even have a legit #2 centre a top pairing defence and a goalie that makes the other team not shoot unless they have a very good scoring chance instead of shooting from anywhere and everywhere.

To get to the darkside Mac-t has to to trade a few duplicate skill set players.Such as Gagner Hemsky and Eberele.J Shultz has no fight in him he can go too.

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#23 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:17AM
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Geoff wrote:

Hindsight is always 20/20 lol

No, actually I argued vehemently against it at the time. It actually disgusted me but thanks for coming.

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Proof :

#79 Spydyr August 28 2013, 06:27AM Trash it! 36 trashes +1 7 props Reply Edit

Sam reflects the current edition of the Oilers perfectly. He can't play defense, does not know how to play without the puck. Intimidates no one and is very easy to play against.

So all in all a nice fit

117 Spydyr August 28 2013, 10:22AM Trash it! 20 trashes +1 3 props Reply Edit

Comparing scoring eight goals in a nothing game to winning five Cups is like comparing Milly Cyrus shaking her a$$ to Pink Floyds The Wall. One is great the other fluff.

It is a real insight into this edition of the Oilers when most fans here approve of the new captain being Sam. Is he the best the team has to offer?

Now that is a sad state of affairs.

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#24 Hockey fan 1976
December 08 2013, 09:20AM
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You are 3 moves away from becoming an elite team: a) fire KBlow b) fire Ms. T and c) fire our AHL coach :). Boom!

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#25 Geoff
December 08 2013, 09:20AM
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Spydyr wrote:

No, actually I argued vehemently against it at the time. It actually disgusted me but thanks for coming.

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Proof :

#79 Spydyr August 28 2013, 06:27AM Trash it! 36 trashes +1 7 props Reply Edit

Sam reflects the current edition of the Oilers perfectly. He can't play defense, does not know how to play without the puck. Intimidates no one and is very easy to play against.

So all in all a nice fit

117 Spydyr August 28 2013, 10:22AM Trash it! 20 trashes +1 3 props Reply Edit

Comparing scoring eight goals in a nothing game to winning five Cups is like comparing Milly Cyrus shaking her a$$ to Pink Floyds The Wall. One is great the other fluff.

It is a real insight into this edition of the Oilers when most fans here approve of the new captain being Sam. Is he the best the team has to offer?

Now that is a sad state of affairs.

Wasn't arguing with what you said I just find it funny no one else would disagree with you as they would have then lol.

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#26 IanF
December 08 2013, 09:21AM
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Fricken Bipoilers.

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#27 Richard
December 08 2013, 09:28AM
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48 19 22 7

82 32 40 10

82 25 45 12

82 27 47 8

82 38 35 9

82 41 35 6

82 32 43 7

Quite the record. Last 7 years and this year Oilers are on pace for another 40 + loss season

I would bet any poster here could do just as badly as the so called professionals .

Facts are facts Oilers are good at losing

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#28 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:28AM
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Geoff wrote:

Wasn't arguing with what you said I just find it funny no one else would disagree with you as they would have then lol.

Oh sorry my bad.Yes, that viewpoint got trashed pretty good.

Used to getting trashed for saying Eakins has done nothing and time will tell with him and that Dubnyk was not the answer.So it is like water off a ducks back.

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#29 Fresh Mess
December 08 2013, 09:33AM
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Fail and Schultz are on entry contracts so they should be in the AHL learning how to play a complete game. Gagner needs to be traded away. Those are the three worst culprits.

Hemsky needs to go yesterday. I agree Eberle and Hall have been given a free ride by Eakins. It's hard to scratch someone who has been producing offensively, but I think Hall should sit out a game. So should Eberle, but Hall has consistently been the worse of the two and scratching him would send a loud message to the team.

Scratching Arcobello for 5 games is a perfect example of what is wrong with this team. The manager and coach play favourites rather than rewarding merit.

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#30 Dwarr
December 08 2013, 09:34AM
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Accountability has to start some where and I believe it has to be with the coaching staff. Early Eakins said he didn't have time to get the gameplan down in the pre season which was the reflected in the early struggles. We have not adapted and are waiting to improve I don't see it happening under his watch. Even with Krueger we were able to have special teams clicking and he had under a week to prepare this team. If you are going to start shipping out peices of the future i think Eakins should be the first to go

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#31 Marcus
December 08 2013, 09:38AM
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steveb12344 wrote:

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

Uhh….the SOG were 31-27 for Edmonton.

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#32 Batfink
December 08 2013, 09:41AM
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Dwarr wrote:

Accountability has to start some where and I believe it has to be with the coaching staff. Early Eakins said he didn't have time to get the gameplan down in the pre season which was the reflected in the early struggles. We have not adapted and are waiting to improve I don't see it happening under his watch. Even with Krueger we were able to have special teams clicking and he had under a week to prepare this team. If you are going to start shipping out peices of the future i think Eakins should be the first to go

Yep, right coach (possibly), wrong time. Especially with how he was hired and if MacT was going to do it that way, with who was also available. Puzzling, puzzling decisions, some home runs (Perron), some absolute stinkers (Eakins as HEAD coach, not asst.)

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#33 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:43AM
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If Katz won't fire Lowe and it is pretty obvious he won't.

Mac-T should fire Eakins bring up Nelson as interim coach or go behind the bench hinself.Then send one of the three Assistant coaches down to OKC to run that team if he goes the Nelson route.

In the summer hire an experienced NHL coach to either help out Nelson if he works out the rest of the way or to coach the team himself.Either way for the love of all things Oil let the new coach hire his own assistants.

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#34 John Chambers
December 08 2013, 09:45AM
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Schultz Jr is an infuriating player. His ego must be enormous from the Gretzky courtship.

Gagner, Schultz and our pick to NYR for Girardi, Brassard, and their pick. We pay whatever it takes to sign Girardi, play Brassard in a C / W role.

Problem solved, I swear.

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#35 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:51AM
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John Chambers wrote:

Schultz Jr is an infuriating player. His ego must be enormous from the Gretzky courtship.

Gagner, Schultz and our pick to NYR for Girardi, Brassard, and their pick. We pay whatever it takes to sign Girardi, play Brassard in a C / W role.

Problem solved, I swear.

I would not trade the lotto pick.

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#36 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 09:52AM
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"They've had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert."

I hate to say it but feaster is correct. So why don't our management post this in their office wall.

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#37 michael
December 08 2013, 10:02AM
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See this rant coming from a mile away. After that 8-2 win there wasn't a hope in the world that the Oilers wee going to be given any leash whatsoever.

I told my wife before the first period that the team needed to get a goal early on Calgary. Goes without saying. Calgary played the night before. Are a team with minimal offence. And were playing a goalie who got shelled in his last start. Yup all adds up to a game plan that Jasque Lemaire would have loved. Get a goal and play trap hockey for the rest of the game. Almost worked to perfection.

Calgary were full value for the 2 points they earned last night. The Oilers had 23 blocked shots. Whoop. We at least were shooting the puck. 2 posts and a magical save on Arco could have changed the game. PP? Calgary had the Oilers number. You think that Eakins would have changed up the PP after the first 3-4 times. Calgary knew what we were doing and effectively killed off 6 penalties. Good for them for having a coach who watches film and knows what to do with it. Eakins got out coached by Hartley in that aspect of the game.

The GWG was a thing of puzzlement. It defined nonchalance. JS had the initial brain cramp. Followed there after by a RNH brain crap. I suspect a brain eating disease that turns the Oilers into Zombies is responsible for such erratic behavior. Or RNH and JS had been ind numbed by the Calgary Flames defensive play. Either way the puck goes dippity doo into the net off Hudlers stick who up till that point in the game had done nothing. You make your own fate. The Oilers certainly made theirs last night as a group.

In a word.Frustrating.

Trade wise the Hurricanes are looking for a puck moving dman. You think the Canes could be convinced to part with Lindholm?

How much would the TML pay for the services of Boyd Gordon? You think our draw % is bad. The game against Ottawa last night was so bad that the Leafs I think were at like 20% on the FO.

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#38 Quicksilver ballet
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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Life is hell without any leadership on that blue line. Without Boyd Gordon, that second line center vacancy appears to be magnified as well.

I can't stand watching these kids get pushed around every night. It's frustrating. I will never watch another game again.

See you guys on Tuesday.

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#39 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

"They've had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert."

I hate to say it but feaster is correct. So why don't our management post this in their office wall.

Burke fired off some great Nostradamus type quotes about Lowe too.

Such as :

"For the colossal stupidity of what the Edmonton Oilers did this past summer ... If I had run my team into the sewer like that, I wouldn't throw a grenade at the other 29 teams and my own indirectly," Burke said of Lowe. "So I have no intention of speaking to him any time soon."

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#40 cubsfan
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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i'm starting o feel that, eberlae, hall, and j. schults are primadonnas.

theyve been enabled by management and coaching staff no have no accountability. theyll never be benched.....sets a bad precedent

....yakupovs been made scape goat. at least he looks like he cares on the ice, he hustle and throws a few checks

petry's been benched, and other guys sent to okc.

the chemistry is way off here.......maybe cause theyre losing....if they were winning we be saying chenistry was great......but i dont see these guys sticking up for each other on most nights

read about whats happening with the redskins and danieal snyder coddling griffin III and how it alienating the team ....and 'the rat' shanahan will resign at end of year.....

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#41 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 10:07AM
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non descript wrote:

wow. almost sounds like the eternal oiler optimist is pissed this morning.

Good on you Lowetide, seeing your blog is great today and hopefully Mac T feels the same.

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#42 Hockey Problems
December 08 2013, 10:09AM
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Yakupov threw more body checks in the last two game than Ebs, Gagner, and J Schultz have thrown their whole career. Now that's sad.

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#43 Jesse
December 08 2013, 10:10AM
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Oilers team is full of Goal-sucks. No one wants to play a 200 ft game.

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#44 Roland
December 08 2013, 10:10AM
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@mayorblaine

I just want them to dump the puck in once in a while. Something like 1 out of 3 rushes... Playing a tired flu-riddled Calgary team. Make them turn around and chase once in a while. Yes, Even On The Powerplay! You knew, I knew, and the Flames knew that wasn't going to happen so they stood up at the blue line all night.

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#45 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 10:16AM
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Roland wrote:

I just want them to dump the puck in once in a while. Something like 1 out of 3 rushes... Playing a tired flu-riddled Calgary team. Make them turn around and chase once in a while. Yes, Even On The Powerplay! You knew, I knew, and the Flames knew that wasn't going to happen so they stood up at the blue line all night.

Dump it in you say. They can't do that they are much too skilled and besides if you dump it in you might have to hit someone.Then they might get mad at you and hit you back.

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#46 15w40
December 08 2013, 10:16AM
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I don't think scratching a $6 million player like #4 and #14 happens without the managements' say-so.

Gagner at this point is likely not all that trade-able of an asset with the new contract being what it is. That & MacT openly admitting he gave his word that he wouldn't trade him this year would send the wrong message to the rest of the league that this management can't be trusted - (I don't know what the reputation is right now but MacT has no track record so I can't imagine he wants to start his with reneging on his first deal).

Hindsight being 20-20 I would think the Oilers would like a do over on the 2012 draft and take Ryan Murray. Even if Stauffer says that would have meant no Justin Schultz, I'm guessing they would take that right now. They need more of a complete defensemen and less river boat gambler.

Justin Schultz is well on his way to becoming the vauted "power play specialist" that is only deployed basically on 3rd pairing or 7th defensemen minutes and on the PP. You can't really call Schultz an asset at this point because his value outside of Edmonton can't be that high.

At this point one of #14 or #64 will need to be traded in an effort to shake up the roster and hopefully add a couple pieces that will make this team more than just a high priced shinny team.

I don't think the players aren't trying - they just don't have the DNA to play a hard game, it isn't in there repertoire. They need some Dorsetts and some Prusts and some McIlraths to round out the team to lean on people.

IMHO

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#47 Naky
December 08 2013, 10:19AM
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Last night was another prime example of Dubnyk keeping the game winnable behind a team completely disinterested in helping him keep the puck out of their own net and yet again they didn't reward him with a win for all their supposed offense and all their non-stop cheating to try to get it.

Games like this is why I get so mad when people crap over him because it's games like this that people don't remember. It's just a loss. Guess he should have stopped them all so we could have won 1-0. Clearly his fault. At least that's how it'll be remembered and it's the height of crap.

Nobody ever remembers that it was the collective mess in front of him that couldn't do much of anything to help both offensively or defensively and it's been like this for two or three years now. Even when they get the offense on the scoreboard, their defensive play was such a mess to get that offense but fans don't care because, hey, they got 4 or 5 on the board man. They did what they were supposed to do, right? Bull. Hockey's more than putting the biscuit in the bag and always has been.

But at least people are starting to see it now. Looking beyond the shot totals and the numbers on the scoreboard and assuming that a good game was played by all, or at least I hope so. Because it hasn't been pretty for a long time now and I'm really getting sick of watching it.

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#48 Hockey Problems
December 08 2013, 10:22AM
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Why u Oilers heff be bunch muffin ?!?

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#49 boxman
December 08 2013, 10:22AM
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As the wonderful " Tiger Goldstick " said ( sort of )

" If the Oilers were playing in my backyard I would close the kitchen curtains "

It is time to start blaming some of our untouchables. Eberle should be sat after last nights game. I am sick of him talking the talk while he refuses to step up and be a leader on the ice. He is too damn comfortable. Justin find some courage and the ability not to wet yourself when someone larger skates near you. This team needs a much tougher defence so they can beat the hell out of the wingers that took off all night leaving the defence stranded without an outlet. What is the rush with the wingers when really only Perron seems to have the gonads to go to the net. The Oilers making or exceeding expectations this this year is a small list. I have Perron, Smyth, Arco and I will give Hall a pass although he is extremely inconsistent. Damn I am tired this. My advice now is to have Gazdic start kicking some asses in the locker room.

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#50 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 10:23AM
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Naky wrote:

Last night was another prime example of Dubnyk keeping the game winnable behind a team completely disinterested in helping him keep the puck out of their own net and yet again they didn't reward him with a win for all their supposed offense and all their non-stop cheating to try to get it.

Games like this is why I get so mad when people crap over him because it's games like this that people don't remember. It's just a loss. Guess he should have stopped them all so we could have won 1-0. Clearly his fault. At least that's how it'll be remembered and it's the height of crap.

Nobody ever remembers that it was the collective mess in front of him that couldn't do much of anything to help both offensively or defensively and it's been like this for two or three years now. Even when they get the offense on the scoreboard, their defensive play was such a mess to get that offense but fans don't care because, hey, they got 4 or 5 on the board man. They did what they were supposed to do, right? Bull. Hockey's more than putting the biscuit in the bag and always has been.

But at least people are starting to see it now. Looking beyond the shot totals and the numbers on the scoreboard and assuming that a good game was played by all, or at least I hope so. Because it hasn't been pretty for a long time now and I'm really getting sick of watching it.

Okay I will play along with your logic.

If Dubnyk has made that not crazy difficult save in OT the Oilers might have came back and won the game.

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