SCENES FROM A MAUL

Lowetide
December 08 2013 07:41AM

The Edmonton Oilers won the battle last night, but once again lost the war. The shot differential said Edmonton was well clear of the Flames (52-33) but the final score told us Calgary won the day. The story of last night was execution, and at this point I'm in favor of it.

SHOT DIFFERENTIAL BEATDOWN

The Oilers had a field day last night based on even-strength shots for and against (my thanks to Michael Parkatti for the table above), hell the guy they benched went 12-0 in the discipline. The problem for Edmonton? They're a miserable team without the puck and increasingly they are not willing to do the hard work of getting it back.

I'm not a guy who talks about "physical presence" or "someone to get in your face" very much, because for the most part I do believe those things are overrated. However, this edition of the Edmonton Oilers needs someone to light a fire under their ass, the way Glen Sather did with the Boys on the Bus when they were pissing about instead of eating their vegetables. This team could use a whole lot less "Harlem Globetrotters" skill and a lot more lunchpail work ethic and attention to detail.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There are two ways out of this:

  1. Impress upon these players that "fleeing the zone for offense" is treason, and that you're letting the team down.
  2. Trade one or two of these players for new ones in order to grab the group's attention. 

I bet Craig MacTavish is edging closer to the second option. The Edmonton Oilers are going to finish last with Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Justin Schultz, they can sure as hell finish last without them.

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#51 emonkee
December 08 2013, 10:25AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

My question is why does Eberle, hall, gagner and Schulz junior get such a long leash.

My count last evening Gagner was only credited with two giveaway, I count 4. We need more from our coach to start benching, cutting ice time and press boxing some of the above players.

I didn't include Yak because he is really still in his 1st year and is 20yrs old. He should be forted the same as the others needs to learn by making some mistakes. The same reasoning was used on the others.

Trading Yak would be a mistake. He hits way more then Eberle and Hemsky combined, and awesome shot if they decide to pass to him. He has a lot of Hall in him. Loves to carry the puck and drive the play and is passionate. When he fills out and has more man strength he will be close to a Phill Kessel physique and skill set. He is not a duplicate of Eberle.

I agree with your take on Gagner. Right now it's tough coz Gordon is on IR, but once he is back, I am sure Eakins can try Gordon/Arco/Lander on 2C/3C/4C and leave Gagner on the bench a couple games.

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#52 Release the Hounds
December 08 2013, 10:36AM
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I watched the highlights of last nights game and what really stood out for me was that on the O/T goal, Hudler is standing ALONE in front of DD while the d-men(#19 and #85) are looking up ice from almost the top of the circles! Do these guys even communicate with each other on the ice? Could Dubnyk not give verbal "heads-up" to his D-men that he has a lone visitor at the edge of his crease and he isn't of the friendly variety? I've seen this time and time again how the opposition is allowed to stand around in front of the net uncontested. I realize that a lot of that has to do with the team being a bunch of softies but it seems to me there is a total lack of communication on the ice.

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#53 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 10:38AM
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@Soup

Yak is no duplication of Eberle. He is an explosive skater like a Hall. Loves to carry the puck, awesome shot, and has a physical element to his game. Eberle is soft and rarely found in a scrum. When Nail fills out he will be more similar to a Phil Kessel in physique and skill set.

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#54 Hockey fan 1976
December 08 2013, 10:41AM
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Wonder who would win between the Oil Kings and Oilers if they played today? Lol or the Women's Olympic Team and these clowns?

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#55 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 10:54AM
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@Naky

Last night's loss was not goaltending but; Dubynk was on his knees before the shot was released on first goal and not a great effort on winning goal, in between some good saves, stop either of the other two and game may or may not ended up different result. The Oilers lost because beside Perron and Smyth no one will stand in front of the net, we have a bunch of skilled perimeter forwards that won't do what it takes to win against a team that keeps you on the outside.

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#56 27Ginge
December 08 2013, 10:56AM
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Hockey fan 1976 wrote:

Wonder who would win between the Oil Kings and Oilers if they played today? Lol or the Women's Olympic Team and these clowns?

Oil Kings would keep it within a dozen. Women's team would keep it within forty with good goaltending.

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#57 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 11:00AM
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If it was me, Hall, RNH and Nurse, are the only untouchables everyone else can be traded. This team seems to play Hemsky hockey, they all like to fly around like Barbra Ann Scott as Pat Quinn put it so eloquently. Maybe they should lower their status and compete in a puck battle, grunt it out a little bit, finish your check once in awhile. Gags would be sitting till he learns to compete in the neutral zone and the d zone for the puck. Turns over the puck then he puts it in coast mode in the d zone, he should be busting his freaking ass off to make up for his bone head play. But I guess getting the puck back in the d zone is the dmans problem. What a joke. If I was MacT I would care about his verbal " No Trade" withs Gags as much as he cares about his d zone coverage. What could we get for Gags, J.Schultz, and this years 1st at the trade deadline or draft day? Assuming the 1st is top 3.

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#58 ubermiguel
December 08 2013, 11:09AM
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A weakness in Corsi was highlighted last night: blocked shots. The Oilers could not get those shots past the bodies in their way.

I have a hard time faulting the defensive play when they scored only one goal.

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#59 2004Z06
December 08 2013, 11:14AM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

A different perspective, or a different excuse?

On another note....looks like another sellout again last night!

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#60 Hockey fan 1976
December 08 2013, 11:15AM
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TUE, 10 DEC 2013 HURRICANES OILERS Carolina Wins THU, 12 DEC 2013 BRUINS OILERS Bruins Makes road kill of the Oilers FRI, 13 DEC 2013 OILERS CANUCKS Man vs boys part II SUN, 15 DEC 2013 OILERS DUCKS See Bruins TUE, 17 DEC 2013 OILERS KINGS See Ducks THU, 19 DEC 2013 OILERS AVALANCHE Revenge by Avs SAT, 21 DEC 2013 BLUES OILERS See Canucks MON, 23 DEC 2013 JETS OILERS See opening game of the season FRI, 27 DEC 2013 OILERS FLAMES Ok we might win this one!!! SAT, 28 DEC 2013 FLYERS OILERS See Blues TUE, 31 DEC 2013 OILERS COYOTES Didn't we get spanked 6-2

So in conclusion. Our remaining potential record in Dec will 1-10. Merry f@&$! Christmas everyone!!!!

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#61 Drowning in Oil
December 08 2013, 11:20AM
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I know everyone has a love affair with Hall, but come on people. He is a reckless player who loses the puck constantly. He makes bad decisions, and will be hurt again before the end of the season, that is a given. There are too many negatives with him to look past. Yes, he may score every once in a while, but it normally happens in games that are meaningless (last night being the exemption). I know people will cry saying that he has HEART, great, that is just great, but I want to see someone that is less of a liability on the ice than him. He scares the hell out of me when he has the puck........... But at the end of the day, Eakins loves him and Hall can do no wrong in his book so I guess nothing will ever change.

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#62 BiG bOY pAnTs
December 08 2013, 11:21AM
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Eberles gotta go. He is the epitome of what is wrong with this team. Skilled, yes... But, no size, less heart. Can not back check, will not forecheck and has NEVER learned to play on the defensive side of the puck. This guy must think he's a pilot with all the flybys he's been doing. Is he allergic to the physical element of hockey ? He can take that crap to another team and see how it works out for him there. Time for some tough love, and tougher decisions.

And Gagner's even worse. Buy him out, send the message that this sissy hockey is no longer acceptable, and you can take that useless tit JSchultz with you please. What a disappointment this trio has been. Huge fail X 3.

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#63 ryan
December 08 2013, 11:23AM
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The complete lack of a fore check baffles me, a team with this much speed just standing there waiting for the other team to attack is ridiculous. Our team isn't responsible enough or disciplined enough to play this way.

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#64 hall the time
December 08 2013, 11:28AM
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boxman wrote:

As the wonderful " Tiger Goldstick " said ( sort of )

" If the Oilers were playing in my backyard I would close the kitchen curtains "

It is time to start blaming some of our untouchables. Eberle should be sat after last nights game. I am sick of him talking the talk while he refuses to step up and be a leader on the ice. He is too damn comfortable. Justin find some courage and the ability not to wet yourself when someone larger skates near you. This team needs a much tougher defence so they can beat the hell out of the wingers that took off all night leaving the defence stranded without an outlet. What is the rush with the wingers when really only Perron seems to have the gonads to go to the net. The Oilers making or exceeding expectations this this year is a small list. I have Perron, Smyth, Arco and I will give Hall a pass although he is extremely inconsistent. Damn I am tired this. My advice now is to have Gazdic start kicking some asses in the locker room.

Untouchables, you forgot Oilers coaching staff.

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#65 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 11:29AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

Yak is no duplication of Eberle. He is an explosive skater like a Hall. Loves to carry the puck, awesome shot, and has a physical element to his game. Eberle is soft and rarely found in a scrum. When Nail fills out he will be more similar to a Phil Kessel in physique and skill set.

Sorry bud, but Yak is not even close to Hall in skating ability, in fact he needs to pick up a step or 2.

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#66 Who Dat
December 08 2013, 11:32AM
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@a lg dubl dubl

Anna Kendrick, not Amy Smart.

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#67 2004Z06
December 08 2013, 11:32AM
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BiG bOY pAnTs wrote:

Eberles gotta go. He is the epitome of what is wrong with this team. Skilled, yes... But, no size, less heart. Can not back check, will not forecheck and has NEVER learned to play on the defensive side of the puck. This guy must think he's a pilot with all the flybys he's been doing. Is he allergic to the physical element of hockey ? He can take that crap to another team and see how it works out for him there. Time for some tough love, and tougher decisions.

And Gagner's even worse. Buy him out, send the message that this sissy hockey is no longer acceptable, and you can take that useless tit JSchultz with you please. What a disappointment this trio has been. Huge fail X 3.

Can't trade best buddy Eberle....Hall will be too upset!

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#68 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 11:34AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Can't trade best buddy Eberle....Hall will be too upset!

Well boys, kindergarten is now over!!

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#69 Chet134
December 08 2013, 11:48AM
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This franchise is in big trouble and if they dont make significant trades, they will be in the running for Connor Mcdavid next year. Other than Nurse they don't have another blue chip prospects. Maybe kleffboom. They have a bunch of maybes in there farm system. No assets to trade in the farm. Dont expect any significant UFAs To sign in edmonton cuz we suck. Were a deep hole. Hemskys contract is up this year and the most they are going to get for him via trade is a second round draft pick. Thanks Tambo. Yak has a lot of potential but really doesn't have a high trade value. So We will have to wait a couple years and let him mature. What are we left with. The worse defense in the league and no tradable assets. We can hold onto Eberle, hall and the Nug however fans u better expect another dismal season next year. There is no stat out there that talks about winning battles, compete level or heart. That is in a players DNA and u can't teach that. We are soft team. Perron maybe Hall are the only players with that DNA. We don't have those players in our system so we have to draft those players which means another 4/5 yrs of developing.. Fans have to realize that we have trade an asset to get one in return or expect another dismal season next year. Reallity check

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#70 brake bad here
December 08 2013, 11:59AM
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Like it has been "said from above"

If we can finish in last place with'em, we can damn sure finish in last place without'em. Change is needed. Start with Eberle. If the Oil want to keep Schultz jr, play him at forward. He has no idea what defense looks like. Sit Gagner beside KLowe for a few games and may some "winning" will rub off.

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#71 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:38PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#72 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#73 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#74 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#75 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#76 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#77 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#78 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#79 Morgie99
December 08 2013, 12:41PM
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how do i delete a posting my computer went AWOL

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#80 PutzStew
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Morgie99 wrote:

how do i delete a posting my computer went AWOL

Who Cares. You made a great point.

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#81 Curcro
December 08 2013, 12:57PM
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I love how everyone is turning on Eberle... Let's get real here for a moment. The Oilers trade Eberle he will become a star on another team, and then you all will be crying about why we traded Eberle.

Eberle's game is NOT the tough physical in your face stuff. He is apparently doing what he has asked to do, as he does not find himself on the bench. He is a winger like Hall; like Perron; and his defensive responsibility is on the perimeter.

Personally I don't understand getting rid of Eberle and keeping Hemsky. (Unless trading Eberle gets you a 1A Defenseman)

I think you look at guys like Gagner & Smyth in the forward unit. When was the last time you saw Smyth in the defensive zone? Gagner has not been playing well - he is being outplayed by Arcobello.

But if you want to look at the real problem with the Oilers it is defense, the Oilers only have 2 1/2 to 3 NHL Quality Defensemen, Petry (injured) Ference, J. Schultz (1/2)and possibly Belov as another 1/2.

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#82 Rama Lama
December 08 2013, 12:58PM
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I'm now on the Eakins' bandwagon! All we have to do is send members of the bottom two lines into the pressbox so they can "reset".

Everyone else can cheat all they want because accountability only applies to a select numbers of individuals deemed necessary by Mr. Bangs.

If there was a team ripe for the talking it was Calgary, depleted, hurt, and the rest suffering the flu. When will Mr. Fitness figure this out? When will MacT resurface? When will Mr. Six Rings get fired? NEVER

It seems our Stanely Cup is drafting first?

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#83 Smokey
December 08 2013, 01:00PM
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Alot people woke up grumpy. For once I feel like the voice of reason.

I can't believe people wanna rip on Hall for 4 points in 2 games and a game tying goal last night. I guess he has to score a hattie every night. Someone said bench him...okidoki

Then people are railing on Eberle. He's only just sitting outside the top 30 in scoring and has a relatively decent plus minus. Personally I think his defensive limitations are magnified by this system, and bad goaltending Not the problem in Edmonton. Don't get this trade talk.

Justin Schultz. This team is a bad team with him, an aweful team without. Forced to play 27 minutes last night because this team lost Petry. He was not the problem.

Yak last night. Shot differential tells.the story. 12 for 0 against, but plays 13 minutes. Guy's hitting more then anyone else lately.

The problem's are coaching and the PP. Pp is jekyl and hyde. The shorty last night was brutal. Not enough crashing the night going for rebounds. Gagner is just a floater. I use to defend him but I won't anymore. And this team thinks its adult rec league. Did anyone go after the guy who smoked Petry? I don't remember.

My untouchables are Hall, Eberle, RNH, Schultz, Nurse. I'm not giving up on Yak but you gotta have pieces to give. You got Yak, Gagner, Klefbom, Hemsky, Petry, and a first overall to bring either a second line center or top 2 defenseman. If you can't do that then keep building.

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#84 Jason
December 08 2013, 01:03PM
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All these stat guys with their corsi fenwick etc etc. At the end of the day you need to look at the record.

You can convince yourself of anything.

And the Oilers suck.

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#85 druds
December 08 2013, 01:12PM
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Do players get bag skated anymore? In this new NHL I guess we have to be sensitive to these poor 6 million dollar players.

Eakins should have them out today skating back and forth until they puke and then maybe that will impress them what is needed to actually win games.

Pathetic!

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#86 oilcountyforlife
December 08 2013, 01:18PM
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Great posts, people. Here is my take on things

Management is $%#*@. They are content to sit with their superstar wimps and covet them like they are prima ballerinas (which they kinda are). Get rid of Buchberger, and Smith first and bring in some actual coaches with something new (read better) to teach these little boys.

Next time for three trades. In my opinion Hall, Eberle, and Perron are untouchable. There is no question, in my mind that we will finish in the bottom of the league, so let's start the rebuild (I just vomited in my mouth a bit) mid season. Time for some bundling....Shultz(either one) and Hemsky, Belov and Gagner, the Nuge and Nurse for thee excellent stud defensemen.

Watched the game last night on HNIC....when will our fans vote with their feet and their wallets to boycott these buffoons. I am an oiler fan for life, but I also am a realist. The formula is wrong, the coaching is bad, defense including goalie is atrocious, and our forwards just want to pass blindly and pad their numbers (upcoming contracts). I see no heart, no hustle, no effort by 80% of the team. I'm a big fan of guys with heart here is my list

1. Souray when he was committed 2. Pronger (see above) 3. Ryan Smyth 4. Perron 5. Arcobello 6. Crazy Train (He's fighting for his very existence out there)

Love it, hate it, I have cancelled my Bell Expressvu extras package with Sportsnet West....those dudes shouldn't also be making money on my suffering.

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#87 Harlie
December 08 2013, 01:30PM
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Why everyone heff to be mad?

The season was sewered in the first 10 games. The rest of this shmozzle is playing out to see who else end up in sick bay and what decision Stu "looking less magnificent everyday" McGregor is gonna make.

Relax. Coast a little. Eat a turnover. Watch some Darkwing Duck. Then rinse, reset, repeat.

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#88 DoubleDIon
December 08 2013, 01:31PM
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Are you guys seriously talking about healthy scratching Hall? Did you watch a different game then me? You'd never win again without Hall. He's the guy who drives the play north and generates the offense.

I'd trade Monahan for Hall in a heartbeat. Wouldn't even consider it for any of your other players. Gagner, Yakupov, Hemsky, Eberle and "I'm too good to play for Anaheim" all deserve some pine. Hall, Nuge and Perron give effort consistently.

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#89 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 01:43PM
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Hockey fan 1976 wrote:

TUE, 10 DEC 2013 HURRICANES OILERS Carolina Wins THU, 12 DEC 2013 BRUINS OILERS Bruins Makes road kill of the Oilers FRI, 13 DEC 2013 OILERS CANUCKS Man vs boys part II SUN, 15 DEC 2013 OILERS DUCKS See Bruins TUE, 17 DEC 2013 OILERS KINGS See Ducks THU, 19 DEC 2013 OILERS AVALANCHE Revenge by Avs SAT, 21 DEC 2013 BLUES OILERS See Canucks MON, 23 DEC 2013 JETS OILERS See opening game of the season FRI, 27 DEC 2013 OILERS FLAMES Ok we might win this one!!! SAT, 28 DEC 2013 FLYERS OILERS See Blues TUE, 31 DEC 2013 OILERS COYOTES Didn't we get spanked 6-2

So in conclusion. Our remaining potential record in Dec will 1-10. Merry f@&$! Christmas everyone!!!!

Don't be such a pessimist, if we get Bryz back we will win two.(lol)

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#90 Drowning in Oil
December 08 2013, 01:47PM
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@Curcro

Eberle will become a star on another team........l Mtotally agree but let's be honest, this scenario will happen no matter who the Oilers trade. Doesn't it always seem ex Oilers only shine when they are ex oilers!!!

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#91 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 08 2013, 02:00PM
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Management is perfectly satisfied with where things are at right now. You don't see them at all concerned with what's happening. Why you heff to be mad, persons with more money than brains?

If Management doesn't care, why should the coaches/players. Every seat has been sold for the last 5 yrs, it certainly appears as though they're satisfied as well.

The Oiler are the epitome of off ice success, and when you have that, nothing else matters.

Know your role Oiler fan. Just shut up and buy those tickets...... you idiots, whether you like it or not. Now that you've given Katz everything he wants, this is how it's going to work. Or, he'll take the rest of his party brigade to Seattle.

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#92 6 ring circus
December 08 2013, 02:18PM
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We were told to be patient during this rebuild and that this was the best thing that could happen to the Oiler's, so we all bought into this rebuild that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini put together only to find out 7 years latter that we are no further ahead today then when we started,Gagner,Eberle and Yakopov are all 5'11" between 180-200 pounds,we have one defencemen who weighs more than 210 pounds Belov.The team plays way to soft,does not compete on most nights,whenever they play a bigger team, which is on most nights, they cannot compete physically and usually take a beating along the boards,on the ice and in front of the net.If and it's a very big if ,this team ever made the playoffs, they would not make it past the first round.This is Gagners 7th year already, he isn't going to turn his game around, what we have seen from him these past 7 years is the best we are going to get.Its time that ownership fires the architect (Kevin Lowe) and brings in a President and General manager from a winning organization to turn this around,only then will the fans be rewarded with a hockey team,this management group has had seven years and they royally screwed up with the team they have assembled,the players know it,the fans know it and the media knows it and its time ownership does something about it, instead of sitting there and taking our money for an inferior product, put a team on the ice that the loyal fans deserve and can be proud of.

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#93 Bender
December 08 2013, 02:24PM
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Okay I will play along with your logic.

If Dubnyk has made that not crazy difficult save in OT the Oilers might have came back and won the game.

Hmmmm interesting thought process......u could also say if Schultz could play defense Dubnyk wouldn't have had to make that save. Body language of Dubnyk she the game ended of," Are you serious," Pretty much said it all.

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#94 Tom
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I watched the highlights of last nights game and what really stood out for me was that on the O/T goal, Hudler is standing ALONE in front of DD while the d-men(#19 and #85) are looking up ice from almost the top of the circles! Do these guys even communicate with each other on the ice? Could Dubnyk not give verbal "heads-up" to his D-men that he has a lone visitor at the edge of his crease and he isn't of the friendly variety? I've seen this time and time again how the opposition is allowed to stand around in front of the net uncontested. I realize that a lot of that has to do with the team being a bunch of softies but it seems to me there is a total lack of communication on the ice.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the top of the circle closest to the blue line. Schultz was only a few feet from whomever scored and knew he was there. He looked right At him and then picked his positioning. He would have picked off that pass too if Nuge hadn't tipped it over his stick.

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#95 T&A4Flames
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Yak is no duplication of Eberle. He is an explosive skater like a Hall. Loves to carry the puck, awesome shot, and has a physical element to his game. Eberle is soft and rarely found in a scrum. When Nail fills out he will be more similar to a Phil Kessel in physique and skill set.

Soooooo.... He'll be built like the Michellin man or perhaps more like the Pillsbury dough boy.

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#96 JJ
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I think it's time for everyone - all of you to find another team to follow and cheer for. The best you'll get with this team is perpetual disappointment. Look at where Colorado is, this lies all on the management.

I'm a Canadiens fan now. I suggest everyone else hop aboard. In fact, unlike last year where losses would be disappointing, I don't have a reaction anymore.

The respectable part about the Habs organization is, once they missed the playoffs in 2011/2012 and became dead last in the conference, management was cleaned out. That sends a clear message of accountability. If you're not going to get results, your ass is out the door. And then they won their division the next year and are currently tied for first in the conference despite having wee Davey Desharnais, an undrafted player as their first line center. Because management knows how to win there, and they only accept winning cultures. But Klowe and co. don't, despite what their delusions would have you to believe.

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#97 Spydyr
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We were told to be patient during this rebuild and that this was the best thing that could happen to the Oiler's, so we all bought into this rebuild that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini put together only to find out 7 years latter that we are no further ahead today then when we started,Gagner,Eberle and Yakopov are all 5'11" between 180-200 pounds,we have one defencemen who weighs more than 210 pounds Belov.The team plays way to soft,does not compete on most nights,whenever they play a bigger team, which is on most nights, they cannot compete physically and usually take a beating along the boards,on the ice and in front of the net.If and it's a very big if ,this team ever made the playoffs, they would not make it past the first round.This is Gagners 7th year already, he isn't going to turn his game around, what we have seen from him these past 7 years is the best we are going to get.Its time that ownership fires the architect (Kevin Lowe) and brings in a President and General manager from a winning organization to turn this around,only then will the fans be rewarded with a hockey team,this management group has had seven years and they royally screwed up with the team they have assembled,the players know it,the fans know it and the media knows it and its time ownership does something about it, instead of sitting there and taking our money for an inferior product, put a team on the ice that the loyal fans deserve and can be proud of.

Come on now tell us how you really feel.

I think most of us here would agree with you.

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#98 Bleedblue
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Why is there no game grades for the coaches? Why was j.schultz and marincin on the ice together- steve smith? Why is gag- me still getting more ice than arco- eakins? As a fan enduring years of mismanagement the last thing I wanted to see this year was rookie coaching!

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#99 Bleedblue
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Furthermore, despite his flaws, why is Belov not playing? What a circus!

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#100 nrXic
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In retrospect, I'm actually happy that the Oilers lost the way they did last night. Such a poor effort should not have been rewarded with a win.

We needed a loss that summarized the issues with this team.

We needed a loss that was downright embarrassing.

We needed to lose in a fashion in where the team won't soon forget.

We needed a loss that put the Oilers high end talent on the spot.

We needed a loss where the game winning assist went through the legs of our high end talent, at a pace of 15km/hr.

We needed a loss to demonstrate that it doesn't matter how many chances we generate, if we can't keep the puck out of our own end we will NEVER move out of bottom 1/3 of the league.

We needed a loss to show us that "will > skill".

We needed it...we got it!

Sure, this isn't our first embarrassing loss, and this shouldn't be our first wake up call. But there was something special in how the Oilers lost last night that I think makes it a bit more painful than losing 5-0 to Detroit.

It's like the tale of the fat guy who suffered a heart attack, but still didn't make any effort to lose weight. The day his hot co-worker bought him a pair of jeans as a Christmas present that was 2 sizes too small was what convinced him. Embarrassment is a powerful motivator!

I just made that last story up don't ask me why.

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