SCENES FROM A MAUL

Lowetide
December 08 2013 07:41AM

The Edmonton Oilers won the battle last night, but once again lost the war. The shot differential said Edmonton was well clear of the Flames (52-33) but the final score told us Calgary won the day. The story of last night was execution, and at this point I'm in favor of it.

SHOT DIFFERENTIAL BEATDOWN

The Oilers had a field day last night based on even-strength shots for and against (my thanks to Michael Parkatti for the table above), hell the guy they benched went 12-0 in the discipline. The problem for Edmonton? They're a miserable team without the puck and increasingly they are not willing to do the hard work of getting it back.

I'm not a guy who talks about "physical presence" or "someone to get in your face" very much, because for the most part I do believe those things are overrated. However, this edition of the Edmonton Oilers needs someone to light a fire under their ass, the way Glen Sather did with the Boys on the Bus when they were pissing about instead of eating their vegetables. This team could use a whole lot less "Harlem Globetrotters" skill and a lot more lunchpail work ethic and attention to detail.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There are two ways out of this:

  1. Impress upon these players that "fleeing the zone for offense" is treason, and that you're letting the team down.
  2. Trade one or two of these players for new ones in order to grab the group's attention. 

I bet Craig MacTavish is edging closer to the second option. The Edmonton Oilers are going to finish last with Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Justin Schultz, they can sure as hell finish last without them.

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#51 6 ring circus
December 08 2013, 02:18PM
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We were told to be patient during this rebuild and that this was the best thing that could happen to the Oiler's, so we all bought into this rebuild that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini put together only to find out 7 years latter that we are no further ahead today then when we started,Gagner,Eberle and Yakopov are all 5'11" between 180-200 pounds,we have one defencemen who weighs more than 210 pounds Belov.The team plays way to soft,does not compete on most nights,whenever they play a bigger team, which is on most nights, they cannot compete physically and usually take a beating along the boards,on the ice and in front of the net.If and it's a very big if ,this team ever made the playoffs, they would not make it past the first round.This is Gagners 7th year already, he isn't going to turn his game around, what we have seen from him these past 7 years is the best we are going to get.Its time that ownership fires the architect (Kevin Lowe) and brings in a President and General manager from a winning organization to turn this around,only then will the fans be rewarded with a hockey team,this management group has had seven years and they royally screwed up with the team they have assembled,the players know it,the fans know it and the media knows it and its time ownership does something about it, instead of sitting there and taking our money for an inferior product, put a team on the ice that the loyal fans deserve and can be proud of.

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#52 Soup
December 08 2013, 08:10AM
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Lowtide, a reason why you haven't included Yak in the list of last place culprits? I constantly read the comments about getting rid of Eberle to fill holes, but to me this is akin to trading Bossey. Yak is duplicated several times over on this roster. He is the one that should go.

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#54 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 09:52AM
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"They've had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert."

I hate to say it but feaster is correct. So why don't our management post this in their office wall.

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#55 emonkee
December 08 2013, 10:25AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

My question is why does Eberle, hall, gagner and Schulz junior get such a long leash.

My count last evening Gagner was only credited with two giveaway, I count 4. We need more from our coach to start benching, cutting ice time and press boxing some of the above players.

I didn't include Yak because he is really still in his 1st year and is 20yrs old. He should be forted the same as the others needs to learn by making some mistakes. The same reasoning was used on the others.

Trading Yak would be a mistake. He hits way more then Eberle and Hemsky combined, and awesome shot if they decide to pass to him. He has a lot of Hall in him. Loves to carry the puck and drive the play and is passionate. When he fills out and has more man strength he will be close to a Phill Kessel physique and skill set. He is not a duplicate of Eberle.

I agree with your take on Gagner. Right now it's tough coz Gordon is on IR, but once he is back, I am sure Eakins can try Gordon/Arco/Lander on 2C/3C/4C and leave Gagner on the bench a couple games.

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#56 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 11:00AM
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If it was me, Hall, RNH and Nurse, are the only untouchables everyone else can be traded. This team seems to play Hemsky hockey, they all like to fly around like Barbra Ann Scott as Pat Quinn put it so eloquently. Maybe they should lower their status and compete in a puck battle, grunt it out a little bit, finish your check once in awhile. Gags would be sitting till he learns to compete in the neutral zone and the d zone for the puck. Turns over the puck then he puts it in coast mode in the d zone, he should be busting his freaking ass off to make up for his bone head play. But I guess getting the puck back in the d zone is the dmans problem. What a joke. If I was MacT I would care about his verbal " No Trade" withs Gags as much as he cares about his d zone coverage. What could we get for Gags, J.Schultz, and this years 1st at the trade deadline or draft day? Assuming the 1st is top 3.

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#57 Bleedblue
December 08 2013, 03:10PM
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Why is there no game grades for the coaches? Why was j.schultz and marincin on the ice together- steve smith? Why is gag- me still getting more ice than arco- eakins? As a fan enduring years of mismanagement the last thing I wanted to see this year was rookie coaching!

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#58 Johnnydapunk
December 08 2013, 03:41PM
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Bleedblue wrote:

Furthermore, despite his flaws, why is Belov not playing? What a circus!

I'm a Belov fan also, he has been quite a surprise for the Oil, and his attitude of only signing one year deals to make him earn another contract is also pretty respectable.

I am thinking that he sat to watch the game from a different perspective as I'm sure he has seen NHL hockey before of course, but seeing it from the press box to see what type of system Eakins is trying to play, and to see the Oil play can only help him develop his North American game. It is a fairly different for Europeans coming over also as the speed and congestion of the game is quite an adjustment. Most spend some time in the AHL to get their heads around it, could have been the one mistake that the Oilers made with him, especially the fact he came late to camp due to the embassy strikes.

As far as I remember, the KHL also has fewer games and they are spread out a bit more so there is a small chance that as the wear and tear of the season goes on, he may have been a bit exhausted and started making little mistakes. It's a logical possibility.

I cannot believe that I am defending Eakins here, but the Belov not playing for a few games kind of makes sense to me. There are far bigger, more baffling issues that the Oil have.

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#59 cubsfan
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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i'm starting o feel that, eberlae, hall, and j. schults are primadonnas.

theyve been enabled by management and coaching staff no have no accountability. theyll never be benched.....sets a bad precedent

....yakupovs been made scape goat. at least he looks like he cares on the ice, he hustle and throws a few checks

petry's been benched, and other guys sent to okc.

the chemistry is way off here.......maybe cause theyre losing....if they were winning we be saying chenistry was great......but i dont see these guys sticking up for each other on most nights

read about whats happening with the redskins and danieal snyder coddling griffin III and how it alienating the team ....and 'the rat' shanahan will resign at end of year.....

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#60 Bleedblue
December 08 2013, 03:12PM
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Furthermore, despite his flaws, why is Belov not playing? What a circus!

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#61 6 ring circus
December 08 2013, 07:08PM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Not trying to defend him, because I'm not a Tambellini fan, but he is working for another NHL team. He is now a scout for the Anaheim Ducks. Not that I disagree with your rant, but at least get your facts straight.

Wow !!! We have someone here following the whereabouts of Tambellini he has such a major role with the Anaheim ducks that he even isn't listed on their staff directory!!!! Maybe I should of put when will he get another job as a General manager after him and Lowe basically set the Oilers back how many years because of there incompetence?

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#62 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:17AM
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Geoff wrote:

Hindsight is always 20/20 lol

No, actually I argued vehemently against it at the time. It actually disgusted me but thanks for coming.

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Proof :

#79 Spydyr August 28 2013, 06:27AM Trash it! 36 trashes +1 7 props Reply Edit

Sam reflects the current edition of the Oilers perfectly. He can't play defense, does not know how to play without the puck. Intimidates no one and is very easy to play against.

So all in all a nice fit

117 Spydyr August 28 2013, 10:22AM Trash it! 20 trashes +1 3 props Reply Edit

Comparing scoring eight goals in a nothing game to winning five Cups is like comparing Milly Cyrus shaking her a$$ to Pink Floyds The Wall. One is great the other fluff.

It is a real insight into this edition of the Oilers when most fans here approve of the new captain being Sam. Is he the best the team has to offer?

Now that is a sad state of affairs.

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#63 Hockey fan 1976
December 08 2013, 09:20AM
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You are 3 moves away from becoming an elite team: a) fire KBlow b) fire Ms. T and c) fire our AHL coach :). Boom!

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#64 IanF
December 08 2013, 09:21AM
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Fricken Bipoilers.

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#65 hall the time
December 08 2013, 11:28AM
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boxman wrote:

As the wonderful " Tiger Goldstick " said ( sort of )

" If the Oilers were playing in my backyard I would close the kitchen curtains "

It is time to start blaming some of our untouchables. Eberle should be sat after last nights game. I am sick of him talking the talk while he refuses to step up and be a leader on the ice. He is too damn comfortable. Justin find some courage and the ability not to wet yourself when someone larger skates near you. This team needs a much tougher defence so they can beat the hell out of the wingers that took off all night leaving the defence stranded without an outlet. What is the rush with the wingers when really only Perron seems to have the gonads to go to the net. The Oilers making or exceeding expectations this this year is a small list. I have Perron, Smyth, Arco and I will give Hall a pass although he is extremely inconsistent. Damn I am tired this. My advice now is to have Gazdic start kicking some asses in the locker room.

Untouchables, you forgot Oilers coaching staff.

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#66 Chet134
December 08 2013, 11:48AM
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This franchise is in big trouble and if they dont make significant trades, they will be in the running for Connor Mcdavid next year. Other than Nurse they don't have another blue chip prospects. Maybe kleffboom. They have a bunch of maybes in there farm system. No assets to trade in the farm. Dont expect any significant UFAs To sign in edmonton cuz we suck. Were a deep hole. Hemskys contract is up this year and the most they are going to get for him via trade is a second round draft pick. Thanks Tambo. Yak has a lot of potential but really doesn't have a high trade value. So We will have to wait a couple years and let him mature. What are we left with. The worse defense in the league and no tradable assets. We can hold onto Eberle, hall and the Nug however fans u better expect another dismal season next year. There is no stat out there that talks about winning battles, compete level or heart. That is in a players DNA and u can't teach that. We are soft team. Perron maybe Hall are the only players with that DNA. We don't have those players in our system so we have to draft those players which means another 4/5 yrs of developing.. Fans have to realize that we have trade an asset to get one in return or expect another dismal season next year. Reallity check

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#67 Jason
December 08 2013, 01:03PM
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All these stat guys with their corsi fenwick etc etc. At the end of the day you need to look at the record.

You can convince yourself of anything.

And the Oilers suck.

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#68 HiTs FrOm ThE bOnG
December 08 2013, 06:05PM
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morgie wrote:

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

30 teams. 16 make the playoffs. You do the math. You have to beat the bad teams before you can beat the good teams. Now, if we could only beat those bad teams.

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#69 Dwarr
December 08 2013, 09:34AM
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Accountability has to start some where and I believe it has to be with the coaching staff. Early Eakins said he didn't have time to get the gameplan down in the pre season which was the reflected in the early struggles. We have not adapted and are waiting to improve I don't see it happening under his watch. Even with Krueger we were able to have special teams clicking and he had under a week to prepare this team. If you are going to start shipping out peices of the future i think Eakins should be the first to go

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#70 Hockey Problems
December 08 2013, 10:22AM
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Why u Oilers heff be bunch muffin ?!?

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#71 PutzStew
December 08 2013, 12:56PM
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Morgie99 wrote:

how do i delete a posting my computer went AWOL

Who Cares. You made a great point.

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#72 Freewheeling Freddie
December 08 2013, 07:04PM
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How could a team with the hockey president who has 6 Stanley cups be this bad? He should know how to build a winner because he has 6 cups.I guess I am speaking out line since I am a tier 2 fan. Sorry about that Kevin

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#73 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:16AM
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Lowetide it is nice to see you finally coming over to the darkside.

We have a team the competes , stands up for it's teammates , does not take a shift off, backchecks, crashed the net, gives it better then they are getting it.Knows that a goal prevented is as important as a goal scored.

The team might even have a legit #2 centre a top pairing defence and a goalie that makes the other team not shoot unless they have a very good scoring chance instead of shooting from anywhere and everywhere.

To get to the darkside Mac-t has to to trade a few duplicate skill set players.Such as Gagner Hemsky and Eberele.J Shultz has no fight in him he can go too.

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#74 boxman
December 08 2013, 10:22AM
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As the wonderful " Tiger Goldstick " said ( sort of )

" If the Oilers were playing in my backyard I would close the kitchen curtains "

It is time to start blaming some of our untouchables. Eberle should be sat after last nights game. I am sick of him talking the talk while he refuses to step up and be a leader on the ice. He is too damn comfortable. Justin find some courage and the ability not to wet yourself when someone larger skates near you. This team needs a much tougher defence so they can beat the hell out of the wingers that took off all night leaving the defence stranded without an outlet. What is the rush with the wingers when really only Perron seems to have the gonads to go to the net. The Oilers making or exceeding expectations this this year is a small list. I have Perron, Smyth, Arco and I will give Hall a pass although he is extremely inconsistent. Damn I am tired this. My advice now is to have Gazdic start kicking some asses in the locker room.

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#75 27Ginge
December 08 2013, 10:56AM
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Hockey fan 1976 wrote:

Wonder who would win between the Oil Kings and Oilers if they played today? Lol or the Women's Olympic Team and these clowns?

Oil Kings would keep it within a dozen. Women's team would keep it within forty with good goaltending.

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#76 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 11:29AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

Yak is no duplication of Eberle. He is an explosive skater like a Hall. Loves to carry the puck, awesome shot, and has a physical element to his game. Eberle is soft and rarely found in a scrum. When Nail fills out he will be more similar to a Phil Kessel in physique and skill set.

Sorry bud, but Yak is not even close to Hall in skating ability, in fact he needs to pick up a step or 2.

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#77 Curcro
December 08 2013, 12:57PM
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I love how everyone is turning on Eberle... Let's get real here for a moment. The Oilers trade Eberle he will become a star on another team, and then you all will be crying about why we traded Eberle.

Eberle's game is NOT the tough physical in your face stuff. He is apparently doing what he has asked to do, as he does not find himself on the bench. He is a winger like Hall; like Perron; and his defensive responsibility is on the perimeter.

Personally I don't understand getting rid of Eberle and keeping Hemsky. (Unless trading Eberle gets you a 1A Defenseman)

I think you look at guys like Gagner & Smyth in the forward unit. When was the last time you saw Smyth in the defensive zone? Gagner has not been playing well - he is being outplayed by Arcobello.

But if you want to look at the real problem with the Oilers it is defense, the Oilers only have 2 1/2 to 3 NHL Quality Defensemen, Petry (injured) Ference, J. Schultz (1/2)and possibly Belov as another 1/2.

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#78 Oilerz4life
December 08 2013, 07:24PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Wow !!! We have someone here following the whereabouts of Tambellini he has such a major role with the Anaheim ducks that he even isn't listed on their staff directory!!!! Maybe I should of put when will he get another job as a General manager after him and Lowe basically set the Oilers back how many years because of there incompetence?

It was on Sportcenter. Why you gotta be a douche about something YOU got wrong?

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#79 Batfink
December 08 2013, 09:41AM
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Dwarr wrote:

Accountability has to start some where and I believe it has to be with the coaching staff. Early Eakins said he didn't have time to get the gameplan down in the pre season which was the reflected in the early struggles. We have not adapted and are waiting to improve I don't see it happening under his watch. Even with Krueger we were able to have special teams clicking and he had under a week to prepare this team. If you are going to start shipping out peices of the future i think Eakins should be the first to go

Yep, right coach (possibly), wrong time. Especially with how he was hired and if MacT was going to do it that way, with who was also available. Puzzling, puzzling decisions, some home runs (Perron), some absolute stinkers (Eakins as HEAD coach, not asst.)

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#80 Release the Hounds
December 08 2013, 05:23PM
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@Tom

Tom, watch the replay again. Maybe I was just exaggerating the fact that one of them was not looking after the threat in front of the goal. In fact, slow the replay down by 100%. Now tell me that Hudler was not standing alone in front of the net from the time the puck was picked up at the blueline until it was behind Dubnyk. Any legit defenders in the NHL do not let players stand uncontested in front of the tender.

And this "He would have picked off that pass too if Nuge hadn't tipped it over his stick" If the dog wouldn't have stopped to crap, he would have caught the rabbit!

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#81 steveb12344
December 08 2013, 08:40AM
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@Batfink

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

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#82 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:51AM
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steveb12344 wrote:

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

High quality shots from low in the slot were they? Or kept to the half-boards, impossible angle, low percentage efforts. Lames did well to keep us to the outside and collapse in and 'PROTECT THIS HOUSE' when needed (I believe it's written on the wall of the players tunnel). We just didn't want it enough. Perron can't do it all. Any bunch of idiots can (and apparently did) phone it in from stupid angles because they can't/won't go to the tough areas when needed. Beaten by grinders, man, grinders.

Edit: I acknowledge we hit the iron twice. There's a reason it's not counted as a SOG. As my old pappy used to say, close only count's in horseshoes, holding hands and hand grenades. Might be the mental toughness, because of taking almost scoring as a positive and piling it on, the heads went down because they DIDN'T score. Big difference.

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#83 Richard
December 08 2013, 09:28AM
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48 19 22 7

82 32 40 10

82 25 45 12

82 27 47 8

82 38 35 9

82 41 35 6

82 32 43 7

Quite the record. Last 7 years and this year Oilers are on pace for another 40 + loss season

I would bet any poster here could do just as badly as the so called professionals .

Facts are facts Oilers are good at losing

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#84 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:51AM
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John Chambers wrote:

Schultz Jr is an infuriating player. His ego must be enormous from the Gretzky courtship.

Gagner, Schultz and our pick to NYR for Girardi, Brassard, and their pick. We pay whatever it takes to sign Girardi, play Brassard in a C / W role.

Problem solved, I swear.

I would not trade the lotto pick.

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#85 oilcountyforlife
December 08 2013, 01:18PM
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Great posts, people. Here is my take on things

Management is $%#*@. They are content to sit with their superstar wimps and covet them like they are prima ballerinas (which they kinda are). Get rid of Buchberger, and Smith first and bring in some actual coaches with something new (read better) to teach these little boys.

Next time for three trades. In my opinion Hall, Eberle, and Perron are untouchable. There is no question, in my mind that we will finish in the bottom of the league, so let's start the rebuild (I just vomited in my mouth a bit) mid season. Time for some bundling....Shultz(either one) and Hemsky, Belov and Gagner, the Nuge and Nurse for thee excellent stud defensemen.

Watched the game last night on HNIC....when will our fans vote with their feet and their wallets to boycott these buffoons. I am an oiler fan for life, but I also am a realist. The formula is wrong, the coaching is bad, defense including goalie is atrocious, and our forwards just want to pass blindly and pad their numbers (upcoming contracts). I see no heart, no hustle, no effort by 80% of the team. I'm a big fan of guys with heart here is my list

1. Souray when he was committed 2. Pronger (see above) 3. Ryan Smyth 4. Perron 5. Arcobello 6. Crazy Train (He's fighting for his very existence out there)

Love it, hate it, I have cancelled my Bell Expressvu extras package with Sportsnet West....those dudes shouldn't also be making money on my suffering.

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#86 nrXic
December 08 2013, 03:15PM
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In retrospect, I'm actually happy that the Oilers lost the way they did last night. Such a poor effort should not have been rewarded with a win.

We needed a loss that summarized the issues with this team.

We needed a loss that was downright embarrassing.

We needed to lose in a fashion in where the team won't soon forget.

We needed a loss that put the Oilers high end talent on the spot.

We needed a loss where the game winning assist went through the legs of our high end talent, at a pace of 15km/hr.

We needed a loss to demonstrate that it doesn't matter how many chances we generate, if we can't keep the puck out of our own end we will NEVER move out of bottom 1/3 of the league.

We needed a loss to show us that "will > skill".

We needed it...we got it!

Sure, this isn't our first embarrassing loss, and this shouldn't be our first wake up call. But there was something special in how the Oilers lost last night that I think makes it a bit more painful than losing 5-0 to Detroit.

It's like the tale of the fat guy who suffered a heart attack, but still didn't make any effort to lose weight. The day his hot co-worker bought him a pair of jeans as a Christmas present that was 2 sizes too small was what convinced him. Embarrassment is a powerful motivator!

I just made that last story up don't ask me why.

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#87 nick
December 08 2013, 05:24PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

A different perspective, or a different excuse?

On another note....looks like another sellout again last night!

The Oilers have played the easiest part of their schedule, Let's just see how that record is in the next 10 games when they play the tough teams. After Tuesday's game you will see just how far away they are when they start playing the big boys.

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#88 6 ring circus
December 08 2013, 07:50PM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

It was on Sportcenter. Why you gotta be a douche about something YOU got wrong?

Your calling me a douche because I didn't know the were a bout's of Tambellini,tell me how do you go through life making no mistakes, you must be perfect,go apply for a job as Kevin Lowe's ASSistant. I am sure the two of you would get along just fine.

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#89 beloch
December 09 2013, 06:03AM
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I'm a Flames fan who pulls for the Oilers too (whenever they're not playing the Flames).

Hall has a lot in common with Baertschi. Hall probably has more talent plus he's waaaay closer to his peak. I admit that. Don't jump on me! Just wait for it...

Both Hall and Baertschi are great when they have the puck. They're skilled wingers who can generate a lot of offense. Hartley said as much about Baertschi and, infuriating many Flames fans, proceeded to bench Baertschi multiple times for the quality of his play "when he doesn't have the puck". There's a lot of debate about whether those benchings were the best thing for Baerstchi's development. However, whether it was the benchings or the general team work-ethic, his play "without the puck" does seem to be improving.

Hall is horrible without the puck. He hardly back-checks at all! There were multiple instances Saturday night where the Flames still possessed the puck in the Oilers' zone and Hall was already over the red-line waiting for a pass. He needs to learn the first step to scoring is to get the puck! Hall has some pretty good jets so there's absolutely no excuse for him to be cherry-picking like that!

Many flames fans are extremely frustrated with Hartley right now for benching players like Baertschi and Backlund or demoting them to the goon-squad where they have virtually no chance of generating offense. Inferior players are getting better ice-time and it's probably not helping the team on the score-sheet. Maybe it's helping motivate these players to develop though. It's certainly up for debate, but it's possible that what's best for the team's position in the standings isn't necessarily the same as what's best for player development, and it's certainly a good year for player development to be a top priority in Calgary. For Edmonton, doubly so!

Personally, I wouldn't bench Hall. I'd put him on the face-puncher line and give him nothing but defensive zone starts for several games in a row. Put him in a situation where he has to learn the part of the game he clearly doesn't know how to play right now. This will reduce the Oilers' offense for a few games, but it might goad Hall into developing as a player. Continuing to give Hall top-minutes and primo zone-starts after playing the way he did Saturday would reinforce some pretty nasty habits!

P.S. I'm picking on Hall mostly because he stood out on Saturday. There are certainly other Oilers who are in dire need of similar treatment.

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#90 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:28AM
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Wasn't arguing with what you said I just find it funny no one else would disagree with you as they would have then lol.

Oh sorry my bad.Yes, that viewpoint got trashed pretty good.

Used to getting trashed for saying Eakins has done nothing and time will tell with him and that Dubnyk was not the answer.So it is like water off a ducks back.

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#91 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:43AM
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If Katz won't fire Lowe and it is pretty obvious he won't.

Mac-T should fire Eakins bring up Nelson as interim coach or go behind the bench hinself.Then send one of the three Assistant coaches down to OKC to run that team if he goes the Nelson route.

In the summer hire an experienced NHL coach to either help out Nelson if he works out the rest of the way or to coach the team himself.Either way for the love of all things Oil let the new coach hire his own assistants.

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#92 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 10:07AM
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wow. almost sounds like the eternal oiler optimist is pissed this morning.

Good on you Lowetide, seeing your blog is great today and hopefully Mac T feels the same.

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#93 Harlie
December 08 2013, 01:30PM
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Why everyone heff to be mad?

The season was sewered in the first 10 games. The rest of this shmozzle is playing out to see who else end up in sick bay and what decision Stu "looking less magnificent everyday" McGregor is gonna make.

Relax. Coast a little. Eat a turnover. Watch some Darkwing Duck. Then rinse, reset, repeat.

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#94 Oiler Al
December 08 2013, 03:47PM
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Last night was another prime example of Dubnyk keeping the game winnable behind a team completely disinterested in helping him keep the puck out of their own net and yet again they didn't reward him with a win for all their supposed offense and all their non-stop cheating to try to get it.

Games like this is why I get so mad when people crap over him because it's games like this that people don't remember. It's just a loss. Guess he should have stopped them all so we could have won 1-0. Clearly his fault. At least that's how it'll be remembered and it's the height of crap.

Nobody ever remembers that it was the collective mess in front of him that couldn't do much of anything to help both offensively or defensively and it's been like this for two or three years now. Even when they get the offense on the scoreboard, their defensive play was such a mess to get that offense but fans don't care because, hey, they got 4 or 5 on the board man. They did what they were supposed to do, right? Bull. Hockey's more than putting the biscuit in the bag and always has been.

But at least people are starting to see it now. Looking beyond the shot totals and the numbers on the scoreboard and assuming that a good game was played by all, or at least I hope so. Because it hasn't been pretty for a long time now and I'm really getting sick of watching it.

Think you are confused big fella..... it was the Flames goalie that was the No. 1 star, not Dubnyk.

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#95 Dr. J.
December 08 2013, 06:09PM
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He is not playing because he is not an NHL defenseman. Do you really think if he was good he would have been in the NHL before he was 27. There's a reason he was playing in the KHL

Ya. More money to play in the KHL.

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#96 mlcselli
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When you have to light a fire under these players to get the going, then it's clear they don't have any fire in them. And that is pathetic!!!!!

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#97 michael
December 08 2013, 10:02AM
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See this rant coming from a mile away. After that 8-2 win there wasn't a hope in the world that the Oilers wee going to be given any leash whatsoever.

I told my wife before the first period that the team needed to get a goal early on Calgary. Goes without saying. Calgary played the night before. Are a team with minimal offence. And were playing a goalie who got shelled in his last start. Yup all adds up to a game plan that Jasque Lemaire would have loved. Get a goal and play trap hockey for the rest of the game. Almost worked to perfection.

Calgary were full value for the 2 points they earned last night. The Oilers had 23 blocked shots. Whoop. We at least were shooting the puck. 2 posts and a magical save on Arco could have changed the game. PP? Calgary had the Oilers number. You think that Eakins would have changed up the PP after the first 3-4 times. Calgary knew what we were doing and effectively killed off 6 penalties. Good for them for having a coach who watches film and knows what to do with it. Eakins got out coached by Hartley in that aspect of the game.

The GWG was a thing of puzzlement. It defined nonchalance. JS had the initial brain cramp. Followed there after by a RNH brain crap. I suspect a brain eating disease that turns the Oilers into Zombies is responsible for such erratic behavior. Or RNH and JS had been ind numbed by the Calgary Flames defensive play. Either way the puck goes dippity doo into the net off Hudlers stick who up till that point in the game had done nothing. You make your own fate. The Oilers certainly made theirs last night as a group.

In a word.Frustrating.

Trade wise the Hurricanes are looking for a puck moving dman. You think the Canes could be convinced to part with Lindholm?

How much would the TML pay for the services of Boyd Gordon? You think our draw % is bad. The game against Ottawa last night was so bad that the Leafs I think were at like 20% on the FO.

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#98 Roland
December 08 2013, 10:10AM
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@mayorblaine

I just want them to dump the puck in once in a while. Something like 1 out of 3 rushes... Playing a tired flu-riddled Calgary team. Make them turn around and chase once in a while. Yes, Even On The Powerplay! You knew, I knew, and the Flames knew that wasn't going to happen so they stood up at the blue line all night.

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I don't think scratching a $6 million player like #4 and #14 happens without the managements' say-so.

Gagner at this point is likely not all that trade-able of an asset with the new contract being what it is. That & MacT openly admitting he gave his word that he wouldn't trade him this year would send the wrong message to the rest of the league that this management can't be trusted - (I don't know what the reputation is right now but MacT has no track record so I can't imagine he wants to start his with reneging on his first deal).

Hindsight being 20-20 I would think the Oilers would like a do over on the 2012 draft and take Ryan Murray. Even if Stauffer says that would have meant no Justin Schultz, I'm guessing they would take that right now. They need more of a complete defensemen and less river boat gambler.

Justin Schultz is well on his way to becoming the vauted "power play specialist" that is only deployed basically on 3rd pairing or 7th defensemen minutes and on the PP. You can't really call Schultz an asset at this point because his value outside of Edmonton can't be that high.

At this point one of #14 or #64 will need to be traded in an effort to shake up the roster and hopefully add a couple pieces that will make this team more than just a high priced shinny team.

I don't think the players aren't trying - they just don't have the DNA to play a hard game, it isn't in there repertoire. They need some Dorsetts and some Prusts and some McIlraths to round out the team to lean on people.

IMHO

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#100 ubermiguel
December 08 2013, 11:09AM
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A weakness in Corsi was highlighted last night: blocked shots. The Oilers could not get those shots past the bodies in their way.

I have a hard time faulting the defensive play when they scored only one goal.

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