SCENES FROM A MAUL

Lowetide
December 08 2013 07:41AM

The Edmonton Oilers won the battle last night, but once again lost the war. The shot differential said Edmonton was well clear of the Flames (52-33) but the final score told us Calgary won the day. The story of last night was execution, and at this point I'm in favor of it.

SHOT DIFFERENTIAL BEATDOWN

The Oilers had a field day last night based on even-strength shots for and against (my thanks to Michael Parkatti for the table above), hell the guy they benched went 12-0 in the discipline. The problem for Edmonton? They're a miserable team without the puck and increasingly they are not willing to do the hard work of getting it back.

I'm not a guy who talks about "physical presence" or "someone to get in your face" very much, because for the most part I do believe those things are overrated. However, this edition of the Edmonton Oilers needs someone to light a fire under their ass, the way Glen Sather did with the Boys on the Bus when they were pissing about instead of eating their vegetables. This team could use a whole lot less "Harlem Globetrotters" skill and a lot more lunchpail work ethic and attention to detail.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There are two ways out of this:

  1. Impress upon these players that "fleeing the zone for offense" is treason, and that you're letting the team down.
  2. Trade one or two of these players for new ones in order to grab the group's attention. 

I bet Craig MacTavish is edging closer to the second option. The Edmonton Oilers are going to finish last with Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Justin Schultz, they can sure as hell finish last without them.

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#51 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:07AM
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Remember when Wayne predicted Gagner to be the next captain?

Now that was some funny $hit.

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#52 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 09:11AM
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My question is why does Eberle, hall, gagner and Schulz junior get such a long leash.

My count last evening Gagner was only credited with two giveaway, I count 4. We need more from our coach to start benching, cutting ice time and press boxing some of the above players.

I didn't include Yak because he is really still in his 1st year and is 20yrs old. He should be forted the same as the others needs to learn by making some mistakes. The same reasoning was used on the others.

Trading Yak would be a mistake. He hits way more then Eberle and Hemsky combined, and awesome shot if they decide to pass to him. He has a lot of Hall in him. Loves to carry the puck and drive the play and is passionate. When he fills out and has more man strength he will be close to a Phill Kessel physique and skill set. He is not a duplicate of Eberle.

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#53 IanF
December 08 2013, 09:21AM
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Fricken Bipoilers.

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#54 Dwarr
December 08 2013, 09:34AM
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Accountability has to start some where and I believe it has to be with the coaching staff. Early Eakins said he didn't have time to get the gameplan down in the pre season which was the reflected in the early struggles. We have not adapted and are waiting to improve I don't see it happening under his watch. Even with Krueger we were able to have special teams clicking and he had under a week to prepare this team. If you are going to start shipping out peices of the future i think Eakins should be the first to go

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#55 ryan
December 08 2013, 11:23AM
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The complete lack of a fore check baffles me, a team with this much speed just standing there waiting for the other team to attack is ridiculous. Our team isn't responsible enough or disciplined enough to play this way.

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#56 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#57 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#58 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 08 2013, 02:00PM
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Management is perfectly satisfied with where things are at right now. You don't see them at all concerned with what's happening. Why you heff to be mad, persons with more money than brains?

If Management doesn't care, why should the coaches/players. Every seat has been sold for the last 5 yrs, it certainly appears as though they're satisfied as well.

The Oiler are the epitome of off ice success, and when you have that, nothing else matters.

Know your role Oiler fan. Just shut up and buy those tickets...... you idiots, whether you like it or not. Now that you've given Katz everything he wants, this is how it's going to work. Or, he'll take the rest of his party brigade to Seattle.

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#59 srbuhr
December 08 2013, 03:28PM
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@Drowning in Oil

Agreed. Take some time and watch a game. We all used to love saying the play dies on Horcoff's stick but Hall has stepped up and taken over this dubious task. Scoring two goals while giving up two is why we suck.

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#60 camdog
December 08 2013, 05:21PM
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The problem with the organization is that there are very few players on this team that have earned their status, in Edmonton we just annoint players stars, without making them have to work for it speaking of Hemsky, Gags, Eberle and Hall. Heck we were ready to give Hall the C and have Eberle and Gags with A's. Hall is the only one that deserves a letter, however that letter is an A and that is all.

The Oilers best player this season is Perron. With Hitchcook as coach Perron had to earn his position on the team. When he didn't play the "200" foot game he got benched. THat doesn't happen in E-town, not with the star players. That's the difference between Edmonton and winning franchises.

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#61 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 06:26PM
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Brian wrote:

Am I still banned ?

Looks like no but I though you got hit by a car and died?

Oh wait that is a different Brian.Or is this the ghost of Brian.

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#62 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 07:21PM
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Harlie wrote:

Why everyone heff to be mad?

The season was sewered in the first 10 games. The rest of this shmozzle is playing out to see who else end up in sick bay and what decision Stu "looking less magnificent everyday" McGregor is gonna make.

Relax. Coast a little. Eat a turnover. Watch some Darkwing Duck. Then rinse, reset, repeat.

Gagner is that you maybe it JSchultz

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#63 Walter Sobchak
December 08 2013, 09:56PM
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Zarny wrote:

Interesting that you would include Schultz; given that he's played 6 fewer games than Yakupov. He also played NCAA. Notorious for taking longer to develop (i.e. van Riemsdyk, Turris). None of that changes with Schultz. It's laughable to watch fans pile on a guy with 71 NHL games of experience.

If Eberle, Hall and Gagner have a longer leash I suspect it's because they've put up huge games before. Like 4 G or 8 pts.

Wouldn't it have been cute if Hall was in the press box against Colorado instead of putting up 3G 1A 4PT?

I'm not saying it's right; but when your job is to win games it's hard to sit players who have essentially won games single-handed before.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with trading Yakupov. Nothing wrong with trading Eberle either. Which one likely depends on what you get in return.

That's a typical response I would accept from Eakins or MacTavish about the Oilers players.

Do you honestly believe as an organization, or a coach for that matter that because Gagner scored 8 points 2 1/2 years ago has relevance now?

I'm agreeing with you on Hall, but not with Schultz, Yakupov and most importantly Gagner.

Gagner is not winning games, he's actually starting to cost the Oilers games. After 7 years in the NHL Gagner is making poor decisions still.

Now, both Schultz & Yakupov could use a year in the AHL, being forced to learn the pro game on the fly is just setting them back.

There's are reason the Red Wings players are always ready when they play in the show.

Lastly, trading Yakupov or Ebelre is wrong!!

Yakupov alone won't get you a # 1 Defensemen, adding to that, you just lost Yakupov spot, you've lost his production.

If you trade Eberle as well, then you lost another RW, so now you have to find two RW's who's point contributions will be in the 100's

That leaves you with one potential RW left who's on his last year and likely won't sign back here...Hemsky.

So now your down 3........RW with no organizational depth, so now where do you get those replacements?

It's funny but the cost it took just to acquire that talent was a number 1 defensemen.

The Oilers have limited choices, they need to draft defensemen, unless there is a home run out there that won't cost you roster players, then it's highly unlikely the Oilers should deal any of the kids, since the Oilers organizations depth is poor to horrible.

Not trying to sound like a cynic but the Oilers cannot go whale hunting by giving away the future.

Draft Ekblad, having Nurse & Klefbom already in the system you won't need to trade these players.

Find quality 3rd line players to help Gordan out, suck it out one more year for Ekblad.....Trade Gagner & Hemsky, Schultz Sr, find a quality 2 way centre.

Just my opinion.

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#64 Ari Gold
December 08 2013, 11:42PM
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brackenbury wrote:

I would like to know who u guys would trade off the club And who u want in return. Let's try and keep it realistic. This should b fun. Come one, come all!

The entire Oilers roster minus Perron, Gordo, Arco & Belov for a porn-mag & lotion.

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#65 TigerUnderGlass
December 09 2013, 10:12AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

To keep things in perspective......Yes 82 games is too early to pass final judgement on Yak.....however you can still make judgements...and he is definitely not performing like an elite # 1 overall pick. He ABSOLUTELY does not have Pavel Bure quickness or speed, and his shooting skills if you include accuracy and the ability to get a shot off against NHL calibre defensemen, are not elite calibre either.

However what you do see is that he is physically solid for someone his age...his ability to hit and take a hit is above average for someone his size and he is solid on his skates.

He sees the ice well, has excellent passing and play making skills for his age.

So yes the natural ability is there....he's just got to be coached how to think the game at the NHL level and how to get the most out of the special skills he does possess....that's on the coaches, his teamtes and of course Yak himself (and his agent) .....it's going to take ALOT more than "finding the range".... It is a work in progress....but we should be seeing significant development over the course of every two to three month segment.

1. He is performing remarkably like an elite #1 overall pick over their first season worth of games.

2. To be clear - you believe Yakupov's ticket is not his shot, but his playmaking? Is this correct?

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#66 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:19AM
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The problem is, the rest of the pro scouts in the league know what these guys are like. How's PRV doing? We won't get THAT deal again! We would have to take damaged goods back, as our wunder-kind MAY, I emphasise may before you all lynch me, be viewed as damaged goods themselves.

But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort. If you can't get motivated for a BOA on either team, then quit hockey. Terrible game for both teams, compounded by apathy all round.

Like it or not, these are the players we have going forward. So management better find what motivates these players and quick. Also, they clearly won the most important battles: Battle of the scoreboard, and the Battle of the coaches. Hartley obviously did his homework, as all the space and time that was available Thursday wasn't there last night.

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#67 RexHolez
December 08 2013, 08:22AM
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I keep telling myself that I don't care anymore and I'm not gonna bother watching... But I still do! Every comment I post on here is filled with anger, depression and cynism and I feel ashamed of myself. My Lord it's hard to be an oiler follower (not gonna call myself a fan anymore)

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#68 Cameron
December 08 2013, 08:30AM
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Good health, great family, good pension, winter home in the AZ, and the Oilers are spoiling my retirement!!

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#69 Oiler Al
December 08 2013, 08:38AM
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Flames goalie was No.1 star.. thanks to 24 blocked shots for Flames and 8 for Oilers.

Calgary had 9 giveaways, and Edmonton had 19.

The supposed Oiler All Stars, went 0-6 on the power play, that wont win you games.

One thing for sure, Oilers saving time and money on Gagners, and Hemsky's skating sharpening, sure cant dull the blades when you are gliding half the night.

PS>. Time to get some extra Wheaties for RNH been playing lately like he has not had meal in days.

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#70 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 09:28AM
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Geoff wrote:

Wasn't arguing with what you said I just find it funny no one else would disagree with you as they would have then lol.

Oh sorry my bad.Yes, that viewpoint got trashed pretty good.

Used to getting trashed for saying Eakins has done nothing and time will tell with him and that Dubnyk was not the answer.So it is like water off a ducks back.

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#71 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 09:52AM
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"They've had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert."

I hate to say it but feaster is correct. So why don't our management post this in their office wall.

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#72 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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Life is hell without any leadership on that blue line. Without Boyd Gordon, that second line center vacancy appears to be magnified as well.

I can't stand watching these kids get pushed around every night. It's frustrating. I will never watch another game again.

See you guys on Tuesday.

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#73 Hockey Problems
December 08 2013, 10:09AM
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Yakupov threw more body checks in the last two game than Ebs, Gagner, and J Schultz have thrown their whole career. Now that's sad.

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#74 15w40
December 08 2013, 10:16AM
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I don't think scratching a $6 million player like #4 and #14 happens without the managements' say-so.

Gagner at this point is likely not all that trade-able of an asset with the new contract being what it is. That & MacT openly admitting he gave his word that he wouldn't trade him this year would send the wrong message to the rest of the league that this management can't be trusted - (I don't know what the reputation is right now but MacT has no track record so I can't imagine he wants to start his with reneging on his first deal).

Hindsight being 20-20 I would think the Oilers would like a do over on the 2012 draft and take Ryan Murray. Even if Stauffer says that would have meant no Justin Schultz, I'm guessing they would take that right now. They need more of a complete defensemen and less river boat gambler.

Justin Schultz is well on his way to becoming the vauted "power play specialist" that is only deployed basically on 3rd pairing or 7th defensemen minutes and on the PP. You can't really call Schultz an asset at this point because his value outside of Edmonton can't be that high.

At this point one of #14 or #64 will need to be traded in an effort to shake up the roster and hopefully add a couple pieces that will make this team more than just a high priced shinny team.

I don't think the players aren't trying - they just don't have the DNA to play a hard game, it isn't in there repertoire. They need some Dorsetts and some Prusts and some McIlraths to round out the team to lean on people.

IMHO

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#75 Release the Hounds
December 08 2013, 10:36AM
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I watched the highlights of last nights game and what really stood out for me was that on the O/T goal, Hudler is standing ALONE in front of DD while the d-men(#19 and #85) are looking up ice from almost the top of the circles! Do these guys even communicate with each other on the ice? Could Dubnyk not give verbal "heads-up" to his D-men that he has a lone visitor at the edge of his crease and he isn't of the friendly variety? I've seen this time and time again how the opposition is allowed to stand around in front of the net uncontested. I realize that a lot of that has to do with the team being a bunch of softies but it seems to me there is a total lack of communication on the ice.

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#76 ubermiguel
December 08 2013, 11:09AM
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A weakness in Corsi was highlighted last night: blocked shots. The Oilers could not get those shots past the bodies in their way.

I have a hard time faulting the defensive play when they scored only one goal.

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#77 hall the time
December 08 2013, 11:28AM
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boxman wrote:

As the wonderful " Tiger Goldstick " said ( sort of )

" If the Oilers were playing in my backyard I would close the kitchen curtains "

It is time to start blaming some of our untouchables. Eberle should be sat after last nights game. I am sick of him talking the talk while he refuses to step up and be a leader on the ice. He is too damn comfortable. Justin find some courage and the ability not to wet yourself when someone larger skates near you. This team needs a much tougher defence so they can beat the hell out of the wingers that took off all night leaving the defence stranded without an outlet. What is the rush with the wingers when really only Perron seems to have the gonads to go to the net. The Oilers making or exceeding expectations this this year is a small list. I have Perron, Smyth, Arco and I will give Hall a pass although he is extremely inconsistent. Damn I am tired this. My advice now is to have Gazdic start kicking some asses in the locker room.

Untouchables, you forgot Oilers coaching staff.

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#78 onlyoil
December 08 2013, 11:34AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Can't trade best buddy Eberle....Hall will be too upset!

Well boys, kindergarten is now over!!

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#79 brake bad here
December 08 2013, 11:59AM
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Like it has been "said from above"

If we can finish in last place with'em, we can damn sure finish in last place without'em. Change is needed. Start with Eberle. If the Oil want to keep Schultz jr, play him at forward. He has no idea what defense looks like. Sit Gagner beside KLowe for a few games and may some "winning" will rub off.

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#80 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#81 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#82 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#83 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#84 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:39PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#85 Rama Lama
December 08 2013, 12:58PM
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I'm now on the Eakins' bandwagon! All we have to do is send members of the bottom two lines into the pressbox so they can "reset".

Everyone else can cheat all they want because accountability only applies to a select numbers of individuals deemed necessary by Mr. Bangs.

If there was a team ripe for the talking it was Calgary, depleted, hurt, and the rest suffering the flu. When will Mr. Fitness figure this out? When will MacT resurface? When will Mr. Six Rings get fired? NEVER

It seems our Stanely Cup is drafting first?

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#86 Jason
December 08 2013, 01:03PM
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All these stat guys with their corsi fenwick etc etc. At the end of the day you need to look at the record.

You can convince yourself of anything.

And the Oilers suck.

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#87 nrXic
December 08 2013, 03:15PM
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In retrospect, I'm actually happy that the Oilers lost the way they did last night. Such a poor effort should not have been rewarded with a win.

We needed a loss that summarized the issues with this team.

We needed a loss that was downright embarrassing.

We needed to lose in a fashion in where the team won't soon forget.

We needed a loss that put the Oilers high end talent on the spot.

We needed a loss where the game winning assist went through the legs of our high end talent, at a pace of 15km/hr.

We needed a loss to demonstrate that it doesn't matter how many chances we generate, if we can't keep the puck out of our own end we will NEVER move out of bottom 1/3 of the league.

We needed a loss to show us that "will > skill".

We needed it...we got it!

Sure, this isn't our first embarrassing loss, and this shouldn't be our first wake up call. But there was something special in how the Oilers lost last night that I think makes it a bit more painful than losing 5-0 to Detroit.

It's like the tale of the fat guy who suffered a heart attack, but still didn't make any effort to lose weight. The day his hot co-worker bought him a pair of jeans as a Christmas present that was 2 sizes too small was what convinced him. Embarrassment is a powerful motivator!

I just made that last story up don't ask me why.

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#88 **
December 08 2013, 03:29PM
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The sad thing is he will probably trade yakupov

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#89 Andrew
December 08 2013, 04:45PM
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You know people/fans/bloggers are getting really fed up with the state of this Oiler debacle when L.T. starts getting pissed off. He's the champion of the "glass-half-full-contingent".

My point being that at some point even the most moderate critics of the Katz/Lowe/MacT mis-management triumvirate is going to turn people off to such a degree they are going to vote to re-allocate their discetionary dollars elsewhere. Katz' arrogant belief that the fans will pay up no matter how inept his decisions may not pay off in the long run. I want to see an honest effort and for that I would be thankful. I don't know how the likes of Gagner, Hall and Eberle can stand in front of those cameras at the end of another gutless lacklustre performance and keep a straight face. Where the hell is their pride?

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#90 oilers1168
December 08 2013, 05:11PM
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Its easy to blame the players. But as the game progressed Eakins must recognize that they need to change up the PP setup. Shoot the puck in and force the flame d-men to tire out by pivoting and chasing it. Yes that means we need to get physical and fore-check to win a puck battle. Carrying the puck in wasn't working. Recognizing which players was struggling example Gagner and J. Schulz. Playing the same forwards upwards of 20 minutes is ridiculous. We have a team playing 3 games in four nights. Take advantage of the last line change and play 4 lines or part of all 4 lines. Tired players make mental mistakes.

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#91 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 05:43PM
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@Lowetide

She isn't going to stick her finger in her mouth is she?

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#92 Freewheeling Freddie
December 08 2013, 07:04PM
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How could a team with the hockey president who has 6 Stanley cups be this bad? He should know how to build a winner because he has 6 cups.I guess I am speaking out line since I am a tier 2 fan. Sorry about that Kevin

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#93 6 ring circus
December 08 2013, 07:08PM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Not trying to defend him, because I'm not a Tambellini fan, but he is working for another NHL team. He is now a scout for the Anaheim Ducks. Not that I disagree with your rant, but at least get your facts straight.

Wow !!! We have someone here following the whereabouts of Tambellini he has such a major role with the Anaheim ducks that he even isn't listed on their staff directory!!!! Maybe I should of put when will he get another job as a General manager after him and Lowe basically set the Oilers back how many years because of there incompetence?

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#94 Ari Gold
December 08 2013, 11:41PM
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That was a pathetic loss. They were outworked by an under-talented, under-manned Calgary team.

I'd say lesson learned, but I know better: I'm an Oiler fan.

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#95 Snoop
December 09 2013, 01:21AM
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6 ring circus wrote:

We were told to be patient during this rebuild and that this was the best thing that could happen to the Oiler's, so we all bought into this rebuild that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini put together only to find out 7 years latter that we are no further ahead today then when we started,Gagner,Eberle and Yakopov are all 5'11" between 180-200 pounds,we have one defencemen who weighs more than 210 pounds Belov.The team plays way to soft,does not compete on most nights,whenever they play a bigger team, which is on most nights, they cannot compete physically and usually take a beating along the boards,on the ice and in front of the net.If and it's a very big if ,this team ever made the playoffs, they would not make it past the first round.This is Gagners 7th year already, he isn't going to turn his game around, what we have seen from him these past 7 years is the best we are going to get.Its time that ownership fires the architect (Kevin Lowe) and brings in a President and General manager from a winning organization to turn this around,only then will the fans be rewarded with a hockey team,this management group has had seven years and they royally screwed up with the team they have assembled,the players know it,the fans know it and the media knows it and its time ownership does something about it, instead of sitting there and taking our money for an inferior product, put a team on the ice that the loyal fans deserve and can be proud of.

Buddy you sound like you are a beggar. This is why the product of Katy's stinks.. If guys like you become tire four fun and stop supporting this over inflated product then you might see better result...

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#96 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:21AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Yakupov is just finishing up his first 82 games, I don't think he's a guy we can blame for the overall mess this team is in currently.

That said, if the Oilers decided to deal him, your point about duplicate skills applies. The one thing about Yakupov that we can't forget is his shot: if he ever finds the range it's going to be amazing.

The woes of this team isn't on a rookie. Like joining a new company just before it goes belly up. Your fault, was it? And yes, strange that we didn't once try Yak on the one -timer last night.

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#97 Batfink
December 08 2013, 08:51AM
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steveb12344 wrote:

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

High quality shots from low in the slot were they? Or kept to the half-boards, impossible angle, low percentage efforts. Lames did well to keep us to the outside and collapse in and 'PROTECT THIS HOUSE' when needed (I believe it's written on the wall of the players tunnel). We just didn't want it enough. Perron can't do it all. Any bunch of idiots can (and apparently did) phone it in from stupid angles because they can't/won't go to the tough areas when needed. Beaten by grinders, man, grinders.

Edit: I acknowledge we hit the iron twice. There's a reason it's not counted as a SOG. As my old pappy used to say, close only count's in horseshoes, holding hands and hand grenades. Might be the mental toughness, because of taking almost scoring as a positive and piling it on, the heads went down because they DIDN'T score. Big difference.

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#98 Geoff
December 08 2013, 09:20AM
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Spydyr wrote:

No, actually I argued vehemently against it at the time. It actually disgusted me but thanks for coming.

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Proof :

#79 Spydyr August 28 2013, 06:27AM Trash it! 36 trashes +1 7 props Reply Edit

Sam reflects the current edition of the Oilers perfectly. He can't play defense, does not know how to play without the puck. Intimidates no one and is very easy to play against.

So all in all a nice fit

117 Spydyr August 28 2013, 10:22AM Trash it! 20 trashes +1 3 props Reply Edit

Comparing scoring eight goals in a nothing game to winning five Cups is like comparing Milly Cyrus shaking her a$$ to Pink Floyds The Wall. One is great the other fluff.

It is a real insight into this edition of the Oilers when most fans here approve of the new captain being Sam. Is he the best the team has to offer?

Now that is a sad state of affairs.

Wasn't arguing with what you said I just find it funny no one else would disagree with you as they would have then lol.

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#99 Richard
December 08 2013, 09:28AM
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Quite the record. Last 7 years and this year Oilers are on pace for another 40 + loss season

I would bet any poster here could do just as badly as the so called professionals .

Facts are facts Oilers are good at losing

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#100 Marcus
December 08 2013, 09:38AM
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steveb12344 wrote:

"But that aside, what I found unforgivable last night was the lack of effort."

This team is so talented that they make 52 SOG look effortless!

Uhh….the SOG were 31-27 for Edmonton.

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