SCENES FROM A MAUL

Lowetide
December 08 2013 07:41AM

The Edmonton Oilers won the battle last night, but once again lost the war. The shot differential said Edmonton was well clear of the Flames (52-33) but the final score told us Calgary won the day. The story of last night was execution, and at this point I'm in favor of it.

SHOT DIFFERENTIAL BEATDOWN

The Oilers had a field day last night based on even-strength shots for and against (my thanks to Michael Parkatti for the table above), hell the guy they benched went 12-0 in the discipline. The problem for Edmonton? They're a miserable team without the puck and increasingly they are not willing to do the hard work of getting it back.

I'm not a guy who talks about "physical presence" or "someone to get in your face" very much, because for the most part I do believe those things are overrated. However, this edition of the Edmonton Oilers needs someone to light a fire under their ass, the way Glen Sather did with the Boys on the Bus when they were pissing about instead of eating their vegetables. This team could use a whole lot less "Harlem Globetrotters" skill and a lot more lunchpail work ethic and attention to detail.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

There are two ways out of this:

  1. Impress upon these players that "fleeing the zone for offense" is treason, and that you're letting the team down.
  2. Trade one or two of these players for new ones in order to grab the group's attention. 

I bet Craig MacTavish is edging closer to the second option. The Edmonton Oilers are going to finish last with Jordan Eberle, Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sam Gagner and Justin Schultz, they can sure as hell finish last without them.

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#101 Batfink
December 08 2013, 09:41AM
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Dwarr wrote:

Accountability has to start some where and I believe it has to be with the coaching staff. Early Eakins said he didn't have time to get the gameplan down in the pre season which was the reflected in the early struggles. We have not adapted and are waiting to improve I don't see it happening under his watch. Even with Krueger we were able to have special teams clicking and he had under a week to prepare this team. If you are going to start shipping out peices of the future i think Eakins should be the first to go

Yep, right coach (possibly), wrong time. Especially with how he was hired and if MacT was going to do it that way, with who was also available. Puzzling, puzzling decisions, some home runs (Perron), some absolute stinkers (Eakins as HEAD coach, not asst.)

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#102 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

"They've had a pick anywhere from No. 1 to No. 10 year after year after year after year, and they still wander in the desert."

I hate to say it but feaster is correct. So why don't our management post this in their office wall.

Burke fired off some great Nostradamus type quotes about Lowe too.

Such as :

"For the colossal stupidity of what the Edmonton Oilers did this past summer ... If I had run my team into the sewer like that, I wouldn't throw a grenade at the other 29 teams and my own indirectly," Burke said of Lowe. "So I have no intention of speaking to him any time soon."

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#103 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 10:16AM
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Roland wrote:

I just want them to dump the puck in once in a while. Something like 1 out of 3 rushes... Playing a tired flu-riddled Calgary team. Make them turn around and chase once in a while. Yes, Even On The Powerplay! You knew, I knew, and the Flames knew that wasn't going to happen so they stood up at the blue line all night.

Dump it in you say. They can't do that they are much too skilled and besides if you dump it in you might have to hit someone.Then they might get mad at you and hit you back.

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#104 Naky
December 08 2013, 10:19AM
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Last night was another prime example of Dubnyk keeping the game winnable behind a team completely disinterested in helping him keep the puck out of their own net and yet again they didn't reward him with a win for all their supposed offense and all their non-stop cheating to try to get it.

Games like this is why I get so mad when people crap over him because it's games like this that people don't remember. It's just a loss. Guess he should have stopped them all so we could have won 1-0. Clearly his fault. At least that's how it'll be remembered and it's the height of crap.

Nobody ever remembers that it was the collective mess in front of him that couldn't do much of anything to help both offensively or defensively and it's been like this for two or three years now. Even when they get the offense on the scoreboard, their defensive play was such a mess to get that offense but fans don't care because, hey, they got 4 or 5 on the board man. They did what they were supposed to do, right? Bull. Hockey's more than putting the biscuit in the bag and always has been.

But at least people are starting to see it now. Looking beyond the shot totals and the numbers on the scoreboard and assuming that a good game was played by all, or at least I hope so. Because it hasn't been pretty for a long time now and I'm really getting sick of watching it.

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#105 emonkee
December 08 2013, 10:25AM
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oilers1168 wrote:

My question is why does Eberle, hall, gagner and Schulz junior get such a long leash.

My count last evening Gagner was only credited with two giveaway, I count 4. We need more from our coach to start benching, cutting ice time and press boxing some of the above players.

I didn't include Yak because he is really still in his 1st year and is 20yrs old. He should be forted the same as the others needs to learn by making some mistakes. The same reasoning was used on the others.

Trading Yak would be a mistake. He hits way more then Eberle and Hemsky combined, and awesome shot if they decide to pass to him. He has a lot of Hall in him. Loves to carry the puck and drive the play and is passionate. When he fills out and has more man strength he will be close to a Phill Kessel physique and skill set. He is not a duplicate of Eberle.

I agree with your take on Gagner. Right now it's tough coz Gordon is on IR, but once he is back, I am sure Eakins can try Gordon/Arco/Lander on 2C/3C/4C and leave Gagner on the bench a couple games.

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#106 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 10:54AM
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@Naky

Last night's loss was not goaltending but; Dubynk was on his knees before the shot was released on first goal and not a great effort on winning goal, in between some good saves, stop either of the other two and game may or may not ended up different result. The Oilers lost because beside Perron and Smyth no one will stand in front of the net, we have a bunch of skilled perimeter forwards that won't do what it takes to win against a team that keeps you on the outside.

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#107 2004Z06
December 08 2013, 11:32AM
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BiG bOY pAnTs wrote:

Eberles gotta go. He is the epitome of what is wrong with this team. Skilled, yes... But, no size, less heart. Can not back check, will not forecheck and has NEVER learned to play on the defensive side of the puck. This guy must think he's a pilot with all the flybys he's been doing. Is he allergic to the physical element of hockey ? He can take that crap to another team and see how it works out for him there. Time for some tough love, and tougher decisions.

And Gagner's even worse. Buy him out, send the message that this sissy hockey is no longer acceptable, and you can take that useless tit JSchultz with you please. What a disappointment this trio has been. Huge fail X 3.

Can't trade best buddy Eberle....Hall will be too upset!

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#108 morgie
December 08 2013, 12:38PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

First of all I said the team was talented. I didn't say they were awesome.

I don't care where the shots come from. Outshooting your opponent 52-33 will win you the game far more often than not. If this was not the case than I guess Corsi must be a completely useless stat.

Even with the OT loss, The Oilers are still 6-3-1 in their last 10. That's 13 points gained in their last 10.

In the west only SJ,and LA have more in their last 10. In the East just Pitt, Mtl and Bos have more.

I realize (sadly) that the season didn't start only 10 games ago, but I still feel at least a little better knowing that they have been tied for the 6th best record in the league over the last 10.

I fully agree that this team has serious issues, and is still far from a finished product. I just don't think it's time to get all apocalyptic about it.

Just a little different perspective.

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

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#109 druds
December 08 2013, 01:12PM
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Do players get bag skated anymore? In this new NHL I guess we have to be sensitive to these poor 6 million dollar players.

Eakins should have them out today skating back and forth until they puke and then maybe that will impress them what is needed to actually win games.

Pathetic!

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#110 6 ring circus
December 08 2013, 02:18PM
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We were told to be patient during this rebuild and that this was the best thing that could happen to the Oiler's, so we all bought into this rebuild that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini put together only to find out 7 years latter that we are no further ahead today then when we started,Gagner,Eberle and Yakopov are all 5'11" between 180-200 pounds,we have one defencemen who weighs more than 210 pounds Belov.The team plays way to soft,does not compete on most nights,whenever they play a bigger team, which is on most nights, they cannot compete physically and usually take a beating along the boards,on the ice and in front of the net.If and it's a very big if ,this team ever made the playoffs, they would not make it past the first round.This is Gagners 7th year already, he isn't going to turn his game around, what we have seen from him these past 7 years is the best we are going to get.Its time that ownership fires the architect (Kevin Lowe) and brings in a President and General manager from a winning organization to turn this around,only then will the fans be rewarded with a hockey team,this management group has had seven years and they royally screwed up with the team they have assembled,the players know it,the fans know it and the media knows it and its time ownership does something about it, instead of sitting there and taking our money for an inferior product, put a team on the ice that the loyal fans deserve and can be proud of.

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#111 Bleedblue
December 08 2013, 03:12PM
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Furthermore, despite his flaws, why is Belov not playing? What a circus!

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#112 Johnnydapunk
December 08 2013, 03:41PM
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Bleedblue wrote:

Furthermore, despite his flaws, why is Belov not playing? What a circus!

I'm a Belov fan also, he has been quite a surprise for the Oil, and his attitude of only signing one year deals to make him earn another contract is also pretty respectable.

I am thinking that he sat to watch the game from a different perspective as I'm sure he has seen NHL hockey before of course, but seeing it from the press box to see what type of system Eakins is trying to play, and to see the Oil play can only help him develop his North American game. It is a fairly different for Europeans coming over also as the speed and congestion of the game is quite an adjustment. Most spend some time in the AHL to get their heads around it, could have been the one mistake that the Oilers made with him, especially the fact he came late to camp due to the embassy strikes.

As far as I remember, the KHL also has fewer games and they are spread out a bit more so there is a small chance that as the wear and tear of the season goes on, he may have been a bit exhausted and started making little mistakes. It's a logical possibility.

I cannot believe that I am defending Eakins here, but the Belov not playing for a few games kind of makes sense to me. There are far bigger, more baffling issues that the Oil have.

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#113 Release the Hounds
December 08 2013, 05:23PM
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@Tom

Tom, watch the replay again. Maybe I was just exaggerating the fact that one of them was not looking after the threat in front of the goal. In fact, slow the replay down by 100%. Now tell me that Hudler was not standing alone in front of the net from the time the puck was picked up at the blueline until it was behind Dubnyk. Any legit defenders in the NHL do not let players stand uncontested in front of the tender.

And this "He would have picked off that pass too if Nuge hadn't tipped it over his stick" If the dog wouldn't have stopped to crap, he would have caught the rabbit!

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#114 nick
December 08 2013, 05:24PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

A different perspective, or a different excuse?

On another note....looks like another sellout again last night!

The Oilers have played the easiest part of their schedule, Let's just see how that record is in the next 10 games when they play the tough teams. After Tuesday's game you will see just how far away they are when they start playing the big boys.

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#115 HiTs FrOm ThE bOnG
December 08 2013, 06:05PM
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morgie wrote:

Another perspective is the oil beat only one playoff team in those ten games, Colorado

30 teams. 16 make the playoffs. You do the math. You have to beat the bad teams before you can beat the good teams. Now, if we could only beat those bad teams.

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#116 Dr. J.
December 08 2013, 06:09PM
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nick wrote:

He is not playing because he is not an NHL defenseman. Do you really think if he was good he would have been in the NHL before he was 27. There's a reason he was playing in the KHL

Ya. More money to play in the KHL.

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#117 hall the time
December 08 2013, 06:23PM
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camdog wrote:

The problem with the organization is that there are very few players on this team that have earned their status, in Edmonton we just annoint players stars, without making them have to work for it speaking of Hemsky, Gags, Eberle and Hall. Heck we were ready to give Hall the C and have Eberle and Gags with A's. Hall is the only one that deserves a letter, however that letter is an A and that is all.

The Oilers best player this season is Perron. With Hitchcook as coach Perron had to earn his position on the team. When he didn't play the "200" foot game he got benched. THat doesn't happen in E-town, not with the star players. That's the difference between Edmonton and winning franchises.

Are you one of the Oil Barons, I know you guys gotta be posting stuff about the top lines on here lol.

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#118 Zarny
December 08 2013, 07:51PM
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oilers1168 wrote:

My question is why does Eberle, hall, gagner and Schulz junior get such a long leash.

My count last evening Gagner was only credited with two giveaway, I count 4. We need more from our coach to start benching, cutting ice time and press boxing some of the above players.

I didn't include Yak because he is really still in his 1st year and is 20yrs old. He should be forted the same as the others needs to learn by making some mistakes. The same reasoning was used on the others.

Trading Yak would be a mistake. He hits way more then Eberle and Hemsky combined, and awesome shot if they decide to pass to him. He has a lot of Hall in him. Loves to carry the puck and drive the play and is passionate. When he fills out and has more man strength he will be close to a Phill Kessel physique and skill set. He is not a duplicate of Eberle.

Interesting that you would include Schultz; given that he's played 6 fewer games than Yakupov. He also played NCAA. Notorious for taking longer to develop (i.e. van Riemsdyk, Turris). None of that changes with Schultz. It's laughable to watch fans pile on a guy with 71 NHL games of experience.

If Eberle, Hall and Gagner have a longer leash I suspect it's because they've put up huge games before. Like 4 G or 8 pts.

Wouldn't it have been cute if Hall was in the press box against Colorado instead of putting up 3G 1A 4PT?

I'm not saying it's right; but when your job is to win games it's hard to sit players who have essentially won games single-handed before.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with trading Yakupov. Nothing wrong with trading Eberle either. Which one likely depends on what you get in return.

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#119 YAKCITY64
December 08 2013, 08:56PM
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@Marcus

LT I love how you talk as if the oilers got 52 shots the official shots were 31-27. SOG mean shots on goal when it comes to the oilers even if you put lipstick on a pig its still a pig:)

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#120 camdog
December 08 2013, 10:49PM
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@Zarny

Win games? Even in the AHL to start last season, they had trouble winning games...

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#121 Ryan
December 09 2013, 08:43AM
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@He who knows

Mactavish wasn't fired as head coach. He resigned. His resume is perfect for a new GM and if the Oilers didn't hire him, someone else would have. Give him some time. Tambellini was terrible GM but he was recently hired in some capacity in Anaheim. I agree that Lowe should have been fired a long time ago and I'm not sure what Howson brings to the table.

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#122 Zarny
December 09 2013, 09:33AM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

That's a typical response I would accept from Eakins or MacTavish about the Oilers players.

Do you honestly believe as an organization, or a coach for that matter that because Gagner scored 8 points 2 1/2 years ago has relevance now?

I'm agreeing with you on Hall, but not with Schultz, Yakupov and most importantly Gagner.

Gagner is not winning games, he's actually starting to cost the Oilers games. After 7 years in the NHL Gagner is making poor decisions still.

Now, both Schultz & Yakupov could use a year in the AHL, being forced to learn the pro game on the fly is just setting them back.

There's are reason the Red Wings players are always ready when they play in the show.

Lastly, trading Yakupov or Ebelre is wrong!!

Yakupov alone won't get you a # 1 Defensemen, adding to that, you just lost Yakupov spot, you've lost his production.

If you trade Eberle as well, then you lost another RW, so now you have to find two RW's who's point contributions will be in the 100's

That leaves you with one potential RW left who's on his last year and likely won't sign back here...Hemsky.

So now your down 3........RW with no organizational depth, so now where do you get those replacements?

It's funny but the cost it took just to acquire that talent was a number 1 defensemen.

The Oilers have limited choices, they need to draft defensemen, unless there is a home run out there that won't cost you roster players, then it's highly unlikely the Oilers should deal any of the kids, since the Oilers organizations depth is poor to horrible.

Not trying to sound like a cynic but the Oilers cannot go whale hunting by giving away the future.

Draft Ekblad, having Nurse & Klefbom already in the system you won't need to trade these players.

Find quality 3rd line players to help Gordan out, suck it out one more year for Ekblad.....Trade Gagner & Hemsky, Schultz Sr, find a quality 2 way centre.

Just my opinion.

And that's the typical response I'd expect from a homer hitting the panic button.

Like I said..."I'm not saying it's right".

You need to learn to read before driveling on.

Gagner scoring 8 pts 2-1/2 years ago is relevant for the simple fact that that is not his only big game in his career. He is one of a select few Oilers who in the past has had big games.

Once again...I'm not saying it's right...but I can guarantee you son that when a coach is thinking about putting a player in the press box it's something that crosses his mind. Sure, you could send him a message; or you could just miss out on a 4 pt night.

And spare me the drivel about Schultz and Yakupov learning the pro game on the fly. Crosby, Ovechkin, Tavares, Kane, Stamkos...and on and on and on...the league is littered with young kids who have made the jump to the NHL right away and learned the pro game "on the fly".

Also spare me your drivel about Detroit. They haven't had a top 10 draft pick in the last 2 decades. The Oilers also started Tyler Pitlick and Martin Marincin in the minors too.

And yes there is nothing wrong with trading Yakupov or Eberle if you get the right return.

I hate to break it to you but the Oilers aren't going to get to draft Ekbald. And even if they did they can't afford to wait the 4-5 years it will take for Ekbald, Nurse and Klefbom to become legit top pairing D if they ever do.

By that time Hall, Eberle, Nuge etc will all be on the final years of their contracts and the window will have pretty much been narrowed down to 1-2 years. Too much risk.

Not to mention the top 6 F are too much of the same so you're going to have to trade someone because there is zero chance the Oilers ever win the Cup with that mix in the top 6.

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#123 Zarny
December 09 2013, 09:42AM
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brackenbury wrote:

Nice profile pic. ZANY, who would u like to c coming back For a trade involving YAK or EBS ?

Meagan sucking on that cherry always puts a smile on my face :-)

You only trade Yak or Eberle for a legit top pairing D OR a 50-60 pt power F.

Personally, I don't see any of the top 10 D in the league being available unless Subban's contract goes sideways in Mtl.

So I think McDonagh or Girardi in NYR are your best bet for options at D. I like Coburn in Phi but don't think I'd package Ebs or Yak for him.

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#124 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
December 09 2013, 10:00AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Yakupov is just finishing up his first 82 games, I don't think he's a guy we can blame for the overall mess this team is in currently.

That said, if the Oilers decided to deal him, your point about duplicate skills applies. The one thing about Yakupov that we can't forget is his shot: if he ever finds the range it's going to be amazing.

To keep things in perspective......Yes 82 games is too early to pass final judgement on Yak.....however you can still make judgements...and he is definitely not performing like an elite # 1 overall pick. He ABSOLUTELY does not have Pavel Bure quickness or speed, and his shooting skills if you include accuracy and the ability to get a shot off against NHL calibre defensemen, are not elite calibre either.

However what you do see is that he is physically solid for someone his age...his ability to hit and take a hit is above average for someone his size and he is solid on his skates.

He sees the ice well, has excellent passing and play making skills for his age.

So yes the natural ability is there....he's just got to be coached how to think the game at the NHL level and how to get the most out of the special skills he does possess....that's on the coaches, his teamtes and of course Yak himself (and his agent) .....it's going to take ALOT more than "finding the range".... It is a work in progress....but we should be seeing significant development over the course of every two to three month segment.

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#125 Retsinnab5
December 08 2013, 08:34AM
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Eakins said he was going to bring out the hard work of every player on any given night. I didn't see it tonight and i haven't seen it every night ether.

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#127 michael
December 08 2013, 10:02AM
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See this rant coming from a mile away. After that 8-2 win there wasn't a hope in the world that the Oilers wee going to be given any leash whatsoever.

I told my wife before the first period that the team needed to get a goal early on Calgary. Goes without saying. Calgary played the night before. Are a team with minimal offence. And were playing a goalie who got shelled in his last start. Yup all adds up to a game plan that Jasque Lemaire would have loved. Get a goal and play trap hockey for the rest of the game. Almost worked to perfection.

Calgary were full value for the 2 points they earned last night. The Oilers had 23 blocked shots. Whoop. We at least were shooting the puck. 2 posts and a magical save on Arco could have changed the game. PP? Calgary had the Oilers number. You think that Eakins would have changed up the PP after the first 3-4 times. Calgary knew what we were doing and effectively killed off 6 penalties. Good for them for having a coach who watches film and knows what to do with it. Eakins got out coached by Hartley in that aspect of the game.

The GWG was a thing of puzzlement. It defined nonchalance. JS had the initial brain cramp. Followed there after by a RNH brain crap. I suspect a brain eating disease that turns the Oilers into Zombies is responsible for such erratic behavior. Or RNH and JS had been ind numbed by the Calgary Flames defensive play. Either way the puck goes dippity doo into the net off Hudlers stick who up till that point in the game had done nothing. You make your own fate. The Oilers certainly made theirs last night as a group.

In a word.Frustrating.

Trade wise the Hurricanes are looking for a puck moving dman. You think the Canes could be convinced to part with Lindholm?

How much would the TML pay for the services of Boyd Gordon? You think our draw % is bad. The game against Ottawa last night was so bad that the Leafs I think were at like 20% on the FO.

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#128 cubsfan
December 08 2013, 10:03AM
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i'm starting o feel that, eberlae, hall, and j. schults are primadonnas.

theyve been enabled by management and coaching staff no have no accountability. theyll never be benched.....sets a bad precedent

....yakupovs been made scape goat. at least he looks like he cares on the ice, he hustle and throws a few checks

petry's been benched, and other guys sent to okc.

the chemistry is way off here.......maybe cause theyre losing....if they were winning we be saying chenistry was great......but i dont see these guys sticking up for each other on most nights

read about whats happening with the redskins and danieal snyder coddling griffin III and how it alienating the team ....and 'the rat' shanahan will resign at end of year.....

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#129 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 10:07AM
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non descript wrote:

wow. almost sounds like the eternal oiler optimist is pissed this morning.

Good on you Lowetide, seeing your blog is great today and hopefully Mac T feels the same.

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#130 Jesse
December 08 2013, 10:10AM
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Oilers team is full of Goal-sucks. No one wants to play a 200 ft game.

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#131 Roland
December 08 2013, 10:10AM
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@mayorblaine

I just want them to dump the puck in once in a while. Something like 1 out of 3 rushes... Playing a tired flu-riddled Calgary team. Make them turn around and chase once in a while. Yes, Even On The Powerplay! You knew, I knew, and the Flames knew that wasn't going to happen so they stood up at the blue line all night.

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#132 Hockey Problems
December 08 2013, 10:22AM
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Why u Oilers heff be bunch muffin ?!?

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#133 boxman
December 08 2013, 10:22AM
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As the wonderful " Tiger Goldstick " said ( sort of )

" If the Oilers were playing in my backyard I would close the kitchen curtains "

It is time to start blaming some of our untouchables. Eberle should be sat after last nights game. I am sick of him talking the talk while he refuses to step up and be a leader on the ice. He is too damn comfortable. Justin find some courage and the ability not to wet yourself when someone larger skates near you. This team needs a much tougher defence so they can beat the hell out of the wingers that took off all night leaving the defence stranded without an outlet. What is the rush with the wingers when really only Perron seems to have the gonads to go to the net. The Oilers making or exceeding expectations this this year is a small list. I have Perron, Smyth, Arco and I will give Hall a pass although he is extremely inconsistent. Damn I am tired this. My advice now is to have Gazdic start kicking some asses in the locker room.

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#134 Who Dat
December 08 2013, 11:32AM
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@a lg dubl dubl

Anna Kendrick, not Amy Smart.

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#135 Morgie99
December 08 2013, 12:41PM
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#136 PutzStew
December 08 2013, 12:56PM
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Morgie99 wrote:

how do i delete a posting my computer went AWOL

Who Cares. You made a great point.

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#137 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 01:43PM
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Hockey fan 1976 wrote:

TUE, 10 DEC 2013 HURRICANES OILERS Carolina Wins THU, 12 DEC 2013 BRUINS OILERS Bruins Makes road kill of the Oilers FRI, 13 DEC 2013 OILERS CANUCKS Man vs boys part II SUN, 15 DEC 2013 OILERS DUCKS See Bruins TUE, 17 DEC 2013 OILERS KINGS See Ducks THU, 19 DEC 2013 OILERS AVALANCHE Revenge by Avs SAT, 21 DEC 2013 BLUES OILERS See Canucks MON, 23 DEC 2013 JETS OILERS See opening game of the season FRI, 27 DEC 2013 OILERS FLAMES Ok we might win this one!!! SAT, 28 DEC 2013 FLYERS OILERS See Blues TUE, 31 DEC 2013 OILERS COYOTES Didn't we get spanked 6-2

So in conclusion. Our remaining potential record in Dec will 1-10. Merry f@&$! Christmas everyone!!!!

Don't be such a pessimist, if we get Bryz back we will win two.(lol)

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#138 Drowning in Oil
December 08 2013, 01:47PM
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Eberle will become a star on another team........l Mtotally agree but let's be honest, this scenario will happen no matter who the Oilers trade. Doesn't it always seem ex Oilers only shine when they are ex oilers!!!

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#139 Bender
December 08 2013, 02:24PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Okay I will play along with your logic.

If Dubnyk has made that not crazy difficult save in OT the Oilers might have came back and won the game.

Hmmmm interesting thought process......u could also say if Schultz could play defense Dubnyk wouldn't have had to make that save. Body language of Dubnyk she the game ended of," Are you serious," Pretty much said it all.

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#140 Tom
December 08 2013, 02:37PM
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Release the Hounds wrote:

I watched the highlights of last nights game and what really stood out for me was that on the O/T goal, Hudler is standing ALONE in front of DD while the d-men(#19 and #85) are looking up ice from almost the top of the circles! Do these guys even communicate with each other on the ice? Could Dubnyk not give verbal "heads-up" to his D-men that he has a lone visitor at the edge of his crease and he isn't of the friendly variety? I've seen this time and time again how the opposition is allowed to stand around in front of the net uncontested. I realize that a lot of that has to do with the team being a bunch of softies but it seems to me there is a total lack of communication on the ice.

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the top of the circle closest to the blue line. Schultz was only a few feet from whomever scored and knew he was there. He looked right At him and then picked his positioning. He would have picked off that pass too if Nuge hadn't tipped it over his stick.

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#141 Spydyr
December 08 2013, 02:58PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

We were told to be patient during this rebuild and that this was the best thing that could happen to the Oiler's, so we all bought into this rebuild that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini put together only to find out 7 years latter that we are no further ahead today then when we started,Gagner,Eberle and Yakopov are all 5'11" between 180-200 pounds,we have one defencemen who weighs more than 210 pounds Belov.The team plays way to soft,does not compete on most nights,whenever they play a bigger team, which is on most nights, they cannot compete physically and usually take a beating along the boards,on the ice and in front of the net.If and it's a very big if ,this team ever made the playoffs, they would not make it past the first round.This is Gagners 7th year already, he isn't going to turn his game around, what we have seen from him these past 7 years is the best we are going to get.Its time that ownership fires the architect (Kevin Lowe) and brings in a President and General manager from a winning organization to turn this around,only then will the fans be rewarded with a hockey team,this management group has had seven years and they royally screwed up with the team they have assembled,the players know it,the fans know it and the media knows it and its time ownership does something about it, instead of sitting there and taking our money for an inferior product, put a team on the ice that the loyal fans deserve and can be proud of.

Come on now tell us how you really feel.

I think most of us here would agree with you.

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#142 Bleedblue
December 08 2013, 03:10PM
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Why is there no game grades for the coaches? Why was j.schultz and marincin on the ice together- steve smith? Why is gag- me still getting more ice than arco- eakins? As a fan enduring years of mismanagement the last thing I wanted to see this year was rookie coaching!

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#143 Rod from Viking
December 08 2013, 05:41PM
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I would be keeping Nuge and Nurse as well.

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#144 Dog Train
December 08 2013, 06:49PM
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You know things are bad when Lowetide writes an article like this. Play time needs to end, accountability needs to come into play. If only we had an organization that realized this.

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#145 brackenbury
December 08 2013, 10:30PM
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I would like to know who u guys would trade off the club And who u want in return. Let's try and keep it realistic. This should b fun. Come one, come all!

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#146 brackenbury
December 08 2013, 10:36PM
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Nice profile pic. ZANY, who would u like to c coming back For a trade involving YAK or EBS ?

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#147 brackenbury
December 08 2013, 11:20PM
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my comment. Was not intended as a reply to @puck in throat. Sorry bout that bud

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#148 Devolution
December 09 2013, 02:38AM
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The truly frustrating thing is that, except for the players names, this entire conversation could be from 1,2,3 or four years ago. Nothing changes and I am starting to think nothing ever will.

It is a bad organization that makes money, the worst combination for future success. Harold Ballard's Leafs comes to mind.

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#149 mlcselli
December 09 2013, 03:38AM
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When you have to light a fire under these players to get the going, then it's clear they don't have any fire in them. And that is pathetic!!!!!

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#150 beloch
December 09 2013, 06:03AM
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I'm a Flames fan who pulls for the Oilers too (whenever they're not playing the Flames).

Hall has a lot in common with Baertschi. Hall probably has more talent plus he's waaaay closer to his peak. I admit that. Don't jump on me! Just wait for it...

Both Hall and Baertschi are great when they have the puck. They're skilled wingers who can generate a lot of offense. Hartley said as much about Baertschi and, infuriating many Flames fans, proceeded to bench Baertschi multiple times for the quality of his play "when he doesn't have the puck". There's a lot of debate about whether those benchings were the best thing for Baerstchi's development. However, whether it was the benchings or the general team work-ethic, his play "without the puck" does seem to be improving.

Hall is horrible without the puck. He hardly back-checks at all! There were multiple instances Saturday night where the Flames still possessed the puck in the Oilers' zone and Hall was already over the red-line waiting for a pass. He needs to learn the first step to scoring is to get the puck! Hall has some pretty good jets so there's absolutely no excuse for him to be cherry-picking like that!

Many flames fans are extremely frustrated with Hartley right now for benching players like Baertschi and Backlund or demoting them to the goon-squad where they have virtually no chance of generating offense. Inferior players are getting better ice-time and it's probably not helping the team on the score-sheet. Maybe it's helping motivate these players to develop though. It's certainly up for debate, but it's possible that what's best for the team's position in the standings isn't necessarily the same as what's best for player development, and it's certainly a good year for player development to be a top priority in Calgary. For Edmonton, doubly so!

Personally, I wouldn't bench Hall. I'd put him on the face-puncher line and give him nothing but defensive zone starts for several games in a row. Put him in a situation where he has to learn the part of the game he clearly doesn't know how to play right now. This will reduce the Oilers' offense for a few games, but it might goad Hall into developing as a player. Continuing to give Hall top-minutes and primo zone-starts after playing the way he did Saturday would reinforce some pretty nasty habits!

P.S. I'm picking on Hall mostly because he stood out on Saturday. There are certainly other Oilers who are in dire need of similar treatment.

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