SIMPLE, YET DIFFICULT...

Jason Gregor
December 09 2013 01:56PM

It is simple to see what Craig Mactavish needs to do, but it will be difficult to achieve; Get Better Players.

We can spend hours breaking down Dallas Eakins' system, goaltending, the powerplay or a plethora of other issues, but it always comes back to the same problem; a lineup lacking in NHL talent.

MacTavish didn't build this roster, but he is the man in charge moving forward and he needs to start adding players, especially defenceman, instead of shipping them out for future prospects. The Oilers can't afford to give away any more proven NHL players for another prospect or draft pick. They have enough young players, they need experience, size and most importantly some more talent on the blueline.

The harsh reality is that opposing forwards don't fear anyone on the Oilers blueline. Andrew Ference is the only one who is hard to play against. None of the remaining D-men will make a forward pay the price in front of the net or in the corner. The Oilers can't expect Martin Marincin, Oscar Klefbom or Darnell Nurse to be that type of D-man next season. If they do, then you can expect their playoff drought to extend to nine seasons.

The onus is on MacTavish to recognize this and do his best to rectify it. Find another trading partner like the St.Louis Blues, a team willing to part with an experienced veteran player for a younger, cheaper talent, and pull the trigger.

Everyone knows the Oilers aren't making the playoffs, but they currently have over $7 million in cap space so they can afford to take on some salary to make a deal work. MacTavish has already stated he'd be willing to move the 2014 first round pick, so we know he understands the need to inject experience rather than youth into his organization.

A team looking to acquire that pick will likely wait until the season is over and they know exactly what draft spot they are getting. If you traded the Oilers a solid player today for that pick, the value of the pick would decrease by June. I don't see that pick being moved until closer to the draft.

If MacTavish wants to improve his roster over the next few months, I see the following pieces as the most likely options to move:

Sam Gagner, Nail Yakupov and Ales Hemsky. They could move Jeff Petry, but they don't have much depth on the backend, so he wouldn't be my first choice.

Hemsky is a pending UFA, so he will garner the smallest return, however, he will have value at the deadline and his cap hit will be more manageable around the March 5th deadline.

Gagner needs to play better to increase his value. The Oilers and Gagner supposedly have an unofficial no-movement clause, however, this is a business and if a deal comes along that makes sense, I don't see why MacTavish wouldn't pull the trigger.

Yakupov will garner the most interest, and while there is some risk in moving a former #1 overall pick, there will also be significant interest in him because of his draft status. If you want a good player in return, you need to be willing to give up something.

I don't see Yakupov being a foundation piece of the Oilers; they already have forwards who will be that guy. They need to use him to try and acquire a solid piece to their blueline.

Regardless of who or when MacTavish makes a move, it is apparent this group of players simply isn't good enough to win. 

QUICK HITS....

  • I'm glad James Neal got suspended. His knee on Brad Marchand was incredibly cheap, and he deserved five games. Kneeing a guy in the head is gutless, not to mention idiotic.
     
  • Shawn Thornton has always been an honest player, prior to going after Orpik. What I found crazy about that play, is that we see guys punching one another with gloves on all the time and rarely do they get injured. It doesn't excuse Thornton for what he did, he deserves to be suspended, likely at least ten games, but every NHL player I spoke with regarding the incident was surprised Orpik was injured that bad from that gloved punch.
     
  • It is time Dallas Eakins sends a message to someone in his top-nine. The Oilers had way too many turnovers at the Flames blueline on Saturday, and many of them came from blind pass attempts, rather than putting the puck deep in the zone. The Oilers are entering game 32; the coach can't allow those types of plays to continue without consequences.
     
  • Martin Marincin has been good in his two games. He's averaged over 15 minutes a game, got some PP time and he's been sheltered properly. I'd play him again on Tuesday, but I'd be cautious of keeping him here all season. A small taste of the NHL should motivate him even more when he returns to the AHL, and especally during the off-season where he needs to work on getting stronger.
     
  • Bryzgalov practiced today as did Richard Bachman. Bachman will head to OKC the minute he is cleared to play, and it sounds like Bryzgalov is close to being cleared to play. Both Bryzgalov and Dubnyk are UFAs at the end of the year, and their play in the final 50 games should decide if either, both or none of them will be re-signed.
     
  • With three weeks remaining in the NFL season my Miami Dolphins are in the wild card mix. I'm surprised, considering their horrendous GM, but with games remaining against the Patriots, Bills and Jets, they have a very good chance of making it. 
     
  • Tyler Pitlick is heading back to OKC. He hasn't played a game since October 26th. Once he gets back in game shape, I wouldn't be surprised to see him recalled in January.
     
  • The OKC Barons have had 41 different players in their lineup, including 7 different goalies, yet the Barons are only one point out of the playoffs. With Bachman and LaBarbera close to being sent down, along with Pitlick's re-assignment today, the Barons should make a push for the playoffs over the next few months.

DAY SEVEN...MONTH OF GIVING...

On Friday we raised another $2,900 for our Derks Menswear package and the Oilers/Flames tickets. Thanks to Dan and Raja for their generous bids.

Today's package... THE VIP Experience...

  • Pair of Edmonton Rush season tickets. Gold seats, lower bowl.
  • A behind the scenes tour during one home game. You'll meet the coaches, players and the cheer team.
  • You and a friend will go on a road trip with the Rush to Calgary for a regular season game. You will travel with the team, stay at the team hotel, go to the game and have dinner with team owner, Bruce Urban. You will be invited to the after party as well.
  • You will get a meet and greet with UFC champion Georges St.Pierre on January 11th in Edmonton.

    You can bid today between 2-6 p.m. by calling 780.444.1260 or 1.800.243.1945. All the proceeds will go towards Santas Anonymous.
     

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR 

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#1 Quicksilver ballet
December 09 2013, 02:01PM
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Wandering in the desert.....still.

What goes around, comes around for Marchand and Orpik. Nice to see some player policing still in place. This is exactly the type of policing the Oilers need right now. Puck the code/rules, don't just sit and watch another one of your brothers go down, do something, take a suspension and earn a reputation, show you're a team/family for Christmas sake. If you think what happened last weekend was wrong, watch ping pong you bunch of sissies.

With Weber on the move soon, I'd back up the truck and see if there's anything Poile wants. If he's not available, hunker down for another difficult few years. Maybe the Oilers will grow one of their own in the next 5 yrs. Weber or bust. Yak, Gags, Hemsky, even throw in next summers first if you have to. That would surely beat sucking for another 3 years. Just like the Oilers will never go anywhere without a couple top pairing blueliners, The Preds will never go anywhere with that top 9 group of forwards.

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#2 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
December 09 2013, 02:03PM
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The title Simple yet Difficult is the perfect title for MacT... He is simple and makes the fans lives difficult.

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#3 Eighies anyone?
December 09 2013, 02:04PM
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Gagner needs to go ... to the pressbox, then over to the wing. If he wants to play center he needs to play defence or get out of town.

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#4 #ThereGoesTheOilers
December 09 2013, 02:06PM
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I wonder if our 2014 first round and Eberle would net us the type of player our blueline so desprately needs.

Yes, it might be a bit of an overpay, but at this point with so much burgeoning talent up front and only a silver-lining on the horizon in Nurse, we can afford it.

I suggest Eberle simply because he's had longer to prove his trade value (unlike Yakupov), and I think you'd be hard pressed to say he has more upside than Hall or Nuge.

If you can get the kind of d-man we need back for less, then all the better.

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#5 srbuhr
December 09 2013, 02:08PM
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I think we have to get over any player should be off limits. To get great talent we have to offer something. Really I can't see Sam and Nail really getting us much without the 2014 pick included. Hall may actually get a dman and maybe he will learn how to play a complete game and haunt us for years. Regardless spare parts will get us more spare parts and the team has more then enough of those.

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#6 RexHolez
December 09 2013, 02:24PM
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Why is it always yakupov as the kid to trade? He's the only one with a physical edge and that elusive 1 shot scorer, not to mention his current value is the lowest it will ever be in his career! I'd trade ebs first everyday of the week, I'd argue ebs value will never be higher

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#7 Spoils
December 09 2013, 02:24PM
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Nash, NYR, NJD, Flor, PHI, Buf have the worst G/G stats.

Nashville has Weber and Jones. Maybe they would part with Josi?

What about Del Zotto or McDonaugh in NYR?

These teams need offence. Maybe we could package something up like our 1st rd pick, Hemsky, some cap space for D.

Could you get Brodin for Yak?

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#8 Danger Pay
December 09 2013, 02:27PM
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Management needs to address the faithful, Yet again, but this time with more specific's in mind. Like being a contender when the new arena opens or making the playoffs' before the last season at Rexall. Something, anything, let us know what the franchise's new re-build, or re-build 2.0 or rest button (whatever you wanna call it) plans are.

Being left in the dark, with no clue when to expect winning, is driving everyone but me crazy.

I knew before this season started that this Oiler team was still 2-3 years away, so I'm doing my best to enjoy the development of the team. What IS driving me crazy, is the faithful's negativity and lack of patience (especially after loses). This will only lead to more, letting NHL players go for more magic beans.

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#9 Will
December 09 2013, 02:30PM
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I'd really like to see what it would take to get Giroux out of Philly. Holmgren is known for brash moves like that, and it seems almost every player is available at the right price.

With Philly having such a terrible season, I wonder if Eberle and a 1st round is enough to get him. Then Gagner could move over to whichever wing he was needed, and both Yak and a cheaper Hemmer could play on the right side in the top nine.

That would finally give us the one two punch down the centre we've been missing. With Gordon, Arcebello, and Lander as some nice 2 way depth options.

It still doesn't land us our much needed defence. But Giroux, Nuge as our one and two would be incredible. With that duo down the middle, maybe a free agent would be willing to head our way.

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#10 pkam
December 09 2013, 02:30PM
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It is simple to see what the Oilers needs from Jason Gregor, but it will be difficult to achieve; Have a new baby every time the Oilers play.

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#11 Young Oil
December 09 2013, 02:31PM
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I'm not saying we should do this, but what could Gagner and Justin Schultz get us in a trade? If it could get us a top 2 Dman and a tough to play against 3rd liner that might be worth looking into IMO. Two of our biggest defensive liabilities moved for two defensively responsible players could help a lot.

I know Schultz is still learning the NHL game, and I love him as an offensive threat, but if we could get Tyutin and Jenner for him and Gags I'd do it in a second.

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#12 Quicksilver ballet
December 09 2013, 02:33PM
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Yakupov for Gudbranson. Maybe him and Barkov would work well together. The Oilers sure don't have a clue how to use him.

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#13 BIGDAWG
December 09 2013, 02:46PM
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Trade this player and a pick for that player.. I never see any names coming back in these Mock trades... Ebrele and a pick for who? who is out there that we can get??

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#14 S cottV
December 09 2013, 02:55PM
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Agree with JG - Gagner, Yak and Hemsky to be used as trade bait.

Yak because he still has a #1 pick aura about him and would generate a lot of box office interest in certain markets, to use as leverage.

Would also add J Schultz and a first round draft pick to that mix. His offensive up side will still attract interest and leverage but the longer you watch this guy - like we have, the more you start to doubt that he will ever really become a reliable player.

In return, a solid 2C and a first pairing d man.

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#15 Freewheeling Freddie
December 09 2013, 02:58PM
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First things first get Hiller from the ducks

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#16 Young Oil
December 09 2013, 03:04PM
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To me, there's no way I'm trading the first round pick. It's very likely going to be top 5, and that's something that you can spend on getting a future quality two way 2nd line center (Draisaitl for example). If you trade it, you get pennies on the dollar.

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#17 Freewheeling Freddie
December 09 2013, 03:04PM
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Trade Yak, not. He isn't afraid to mix it up and has only played under 100 games. He gets traded it will haunt us for years.

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#18 @Oilanderp
December 09 2013, 03:09PM
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We are strongest at RW... if there is a trade it has to be one of them... doesn't it?

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#19 Bucknuck
December 09 2013, 03:14PM
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#ThereGoesTheOilers wrote:

I wonder if our 2014 first round and Eberle would net us the type of player our blueline so desprately needs.

Yes, it might be a bit of an overpay, but at this point with so much burgeoning talent up front and only a silver-lining on the horizon in Nurse, we can afford it.

I suggest Eberle simply because he's had longer to prove his trade value (unlike Yakupov), and I think you'd be hard pressed to say he has more upside than Hall or Nuge.

If you can get the kind of d-man we need back for less, then all the better.

considering where the Oil are in the standings, I believe that first round pick should have some significant value. Adding a first line winger shouldn't be necessary. Yakupov, Gagner or Hemsky should add enough value to make a deal work.

I'd hate to lose Ebs, Hall or Nuge. At this point I don't think Perron should be touched either. Some players are part of the solution going forward.

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#20 Zarny
December 09 2013, 03:16PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Wandering in the desert.....still.

What goes around, comes around for Marchand and Orpik. Nice to see some player policing still in place. This is exactly the type of policing the Oilers need right now. Puck the code/rules, don't just sit and watch another one of your brothers go down, do something, take a suspension and earn a reputation, show you're a team/family for Christmas sake. If you think what happened last weekend was wrong, watch ping pong you bunch of sissies.

With Weber on the move soon, I'd back up the truck and see if there's anything Poile wants. If he's not available, hunker down for another difficult few years. Maybe the Oilers will grow one of their own in the next 5 yrs. Weber or bust. Yak, Gags, Hemsky, even throw in next summers first if you have to. That would surely beat sucking for another 3 years. Just like the Oilers will never go anywhere without a couple top pairing blueliners, The Preds will never go anywhere with that top 9 group of forwards.

There is zero chance Weber is on the move soon. Zero.

If you want to know why...go look at how much Nsh has paid him and how many games he has actually played under his new contract.

It's not going to happen.

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#21 Xavier
December 09 2013, 03:20PM
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Gregor is so horny to move Yakupov it's incomprehensible. Why not make it to a western conference team so he can come light the Oilers up for the next 15 years while we're at it? The 3 first overall picks should be off the market, anyone else is fair game, including Eberle.

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#22 etownman
December 09 2013, 03:25PM
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Disagree Gregor, the team has enough NHL talent it's just not the right mix! Finding teams to make trades for the type of players the Oilers need is the big problem! I also think the body of NHL work Gagner has performed at wouldn't be a hard sell to a lot of teams, but again, it's finding the right team with the pieces the Oilers need! I think Hemmer's contract gets moved a deadline!

Ference is snarly to play against but not overpowering! Belov is the guy who i thought was consistent all over the ice & fairly physical as well, who did he p--- off! Fistric would look awfully nice in this lineup?

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#23 They're $hittie
December 09 2013, 03:25PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Why is it always yakupov as the kid to trade? He's the only one with a physical edge and that elusive 1 shot scorer, not to mention his current value is the lowest it will ever be in his career! I'd trade ebs first everyday of the week, I'd argue ebs value will never be higher

Agree 100% and his contract is already creating issues for us.

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#25 Tikkanese
December 09 2013, 03:31PM
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Neal should have gotten more than 5 games. He could have broken Marchand's neck, let alone the almost guaranteed concussion from the knee.

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#29 S cottV
December 09 2013, 03:40PM
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The other difficult part for MacT is that part of the solution will have to involve attracting free agents, to plug some of the holes.

For one thing it is difficult to attract free agents to the North Pole - as Bryz would describe it.

The teams track record and play - is not yet looking like a future winner and unless this starts to change, Free Agents looking for their first Stanley Cup, to close out an otherwise illustrious career - are gonna job search elsewhere.

Free Agents also look at Coaching to help decide where to play and I really think that while Eakins continues to look like a struggling rookie Coach - it will not help MacT's sales pitch.

MacT will probably have to pull "Ferrance like" free agent moves, to bring in local guys who wouldnt mind closing out their careers at home. Boumeester and Phaneuf come to mind, but probably years away - if at all possible.

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#31 Soccer Steve
December 09 2013, 03:43PM
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Wayne Gretzky was traded. Therefore ANYONE can be traded. This should never be forgotten.

I went to the game on Saturday - Hockey Night in Canada against Calgary - and it was a terrible, lifeless game for 59 min and 50 seconds.

When I got home I watched the Bruins and Penguins highlights and realized I'd been brainwashed into cheering for this version of the Oilers.

Trade them all.

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#32 Manfly
December 09 2013, 03:44PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He has four goals this year, and all of them are on the PP.

Watch Yakupov closely, he doesn't think the game great. He shoots the puck hard, but he is not as great a goal scorer as some think. IMO.

He doesn't put himself in great shooting positions often enough.

^if that's the case, we'd better package him up because other teams will notice this and we won't get diddly for him !

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#33 2004Z06
December 09 2013, 03:45PM
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What ever happened to the Eberle to Philly rumor for Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn?

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#34 They're $hittie
December 09 2013, 03:49PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Please explain why you would move Eberle ahead of Yakupov, other than he has more value.

What does Yakupov do better than Eberle, that would help the Oilers win in the future. I don't see one area of Yakupov's game that is better.

While there is nothing there right now to say he is better, lets not forget that Eberle did not start until his draft +2 year and than had 43 points. Yak isnt at draft plus two and has played in two different pro leagues in which different styles are played. Next year will be the yard stick, and it will also be interesting to see if Yak gets to play with a hall (yes he was a rookie also) and a defensive forward (horcoff) to shelter them.

Eberle has been protected and played with great players his whole NHL career, no other oiler has had the luxury.

Yak will also be on a bridge contract soon, where as Eberle is overpaid at 6M.

Yak is considered to have a higher ceiling (yes it is only potential).

There are reasons to trade one or the other. And seeing how it is unlikely to get all the problems fixed soon, you may have to trade the player that helps you more now, to get better right now also.

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#35 oilerjed
December 09 2013, 03:49PM
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#ThereGoesTheOilers wrote:

I wonder if our 2014 first round and Eberle would net us the type of player our blueline so desprately needs.

Yes, it might be a bit of an overpay, but at this point with so much burgeoning talent up front and only a silver-lining on the horizon in Nurse, we can afford it.

I suggest Eberle simply because he's had longer to prove his trade value (unlike Yakupov), and I think you'd be hard pressed to say he has more upside than Hall or Nuge.

If you can get the kind of d-man we need back for less, then all the better.

I agree, while at the moment Yak is a bit of a train wreck. With some defensive coaching you could very realistically end up with a forward who hits skates with a rocket of a shot. We have yet to see what this kid can really do. Ebs, IMO, is what he is. Which is pretty damn good player but soft soft soft and we have that covered in spades. He should be able to get some GMs attention when his name is put out there.

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#36 pkam
December 09 2013, 03:52PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Please explain why you would move Eberle ahead of Yakupov, other than he has more value.

What does Yakupov do better than Eberle, that would help the Oilers win in the future. I don't see one area of Yakupov's game that is better.

If we want to win now, then I agree the obvious choice to trade Yak over Eberle.

If the plan is to win in a couple of years, then we have to determine who will be a better player in a couple of years, another factor is how much can we get from the trade now.

If we don't expect to win now or next year, and we believe Yak can be as good as, if not better than Eberle in 2 years, then the obvious choice is to trade Eberle now, because we will get better return for Eberle than Yak now.

Buy low sell high instead of buy high sell low. Of course, it assumes accurate projection from our pro-scouts and management.

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#37 Wil
December 09 2013, 03:53PM
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I think it's nice the Oilers have acquired these assets, but I think that's how we as fans have to look at them. Tradable pieces in order to get an upgrade for the team.

The only question is what do you get back that makes this team better.

In that respect I think anyone is tradable on this team. It's nice to have some continuity and identity, but what I'd rather have more is a team that makes the playoffs.

I like Hall, I like Nuge, I really like Perron. After that, I'd certainly look to give up one of our right wings for either big returns on the blue line or down the middle.

As this article mentions, if Mac T can turn a project like Magnus into the immediate help that is Perron, then maybe there's a team out there willing to take Yak to save cap space, hopeful they can turn him into a star, and give up a big contract and big veteran talent in return.

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#38 They're $hittie
December 09 2013, 03:53PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

What ever happened to the Eberle to Philly rumor for Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn?

Mac T killed it when they asked for Eberle. He wants to be bold but he will not trade 4, 14, 89, 93, or 64.

Dont see how anything else will be bold.

4 and 93 are untouchable. If you have anyone else on an untouchable list ask your self this; we havent won with this core, do you trade your best and most dominant player? do you trade a number one center you have been looking for for years?

Or do you trade the players who have value and are not the best at anything on the team. 14, 89, 83, 64, 26? That is how you maximize assets and mix it up.

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#39 2004Z06
December 09 2013, 03:54PM
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But if you trade Eberle, Won't Hallsy be pissed?

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#40 They're $hittie
December 09 2013, 03:59PM
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But if you trade Eberle, Won't Hallsy be pissed?

I know this is sarcasm, but for the people that think it is real, do you not think that maybe now that they are men they would like to achieve stuff themselves and not be linked only to each other. Maybe both would be happy apart but winning hockey games. It should be pretty apparent to them by now that they are not going to have a dynasty together here in Edmonton until they learn defense and how to play hard every night. And even than still wont.

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#42 Quicksilver ballet
December 09 2013, 04:03PM
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Zarny wrote:

There is zero chance Weber is on the move soon. Zero.

If you want to know why...go look at how much Nsh has paid him and how many games he has actually played under his new contract.

It's not going to happen.

The money he's been paid to date is in the past. Maybe that ownership group in Nashville would look favourably to getting out from underneath the remaining 82 million due over the remainder of that deal, no? Is there an echo in here, yes, 82 million dahlahs (a lot of cash to a small market team heavily dependant on revenue sharing) Zarny.

With Jossi, and now Seth Jones, maybe that's an option to help address their abysmal top 9 forward group.

If #99 can be traded, so can #6. Organizations often change their minds/direction, and rather quickly these days I'm sure. You're opinion is no different than the pre August 8th 1988 talk there Zarny. Some trades don't need to make sense. It could be just not wanting to be house poor anymore.

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#43 Smokey
December 09 2013, 04:05PM
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The Gagner No trade verbal agreement means nothing. Oilers gotta do what they need to do. Gagner is making himself virtually untradeable anyways.

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#44 Knight
December 09 2013, 04:06PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Please explain why you would move Eberle ahead of Yakupov, other than he has more value.

What does Yakupov do better than Eberle, that would help the Oilers win in the future. I don't see one area of Yakupov's game that is better.

2 areas of his game that seem better are physicality, he is not afraid to throw the odd body check and stick up for himself now and then. I also think his compete level is higher, eberle plays beyond soft and is so one dimensional.

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#45 Smokey
December 09 2013, 04:06PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

The money he's been paid to date is in the past. Maybe that ownership group in Nashville would look favourably to getting out from underneath the remaining 82 million due over the remainder of that deal, no? Is there an echo in here, yes, 82 million dahlahs (a lot of cash to a small market team heavily dependant on revenue sharing) Zarny.

With Jossi, and now Seth Jones, maybe that's an option to help address their abysmal top 9 forward group.

If #99 can be traded, so can #6. Organizations often change their minds/direction, and rather quickly these days I'm sure. You're opinion is no different than the pre August 8th 1988 talk there Zarny. Some trades don't need to make sense. It could be just not wanting to be house poor anymore.

Seth Jones ain't going anywhere. Webber is not going anywhere.

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#46 Smokey
December 09 2013, 04:09PM
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Freewheeling Freddie wrote:

First things first get Hiller from the ducks

Bryzgalov?

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#47 They're $hittie
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Who says Yakupov is considered to have a higher ceiling? Because he was drafted 1st overall? IMO That has no bearing now that both are in the NHL.

As for saying Eberle was protected and plays with great players, you do realize that Eberle, regardless of who he plays with, has produced chances and points.

I'm not opposed to trading Eberle, if the package is that good, but when I compare the two players Eberle is better in every facet, and I don't see Yakupov's hockey sense improving as much as it needs to be to be a better overall player than Eberle.

Time will tell.

His ceiling is considered higher yes because most scouts rated him as a number one overall pick. So the majority of men who make decisions in the NHL would probably consider him higher ceiling.

Eberle is at 90% his ceiling. He is at his offensive output with some experience rounding out his overall game.

I did agree with you that right now Eberle is better at all aspects of the game.

As for Eberle producing where ever he plays this is true, however he very very seldomly played without point producing players.

Taylor hall has been asked to carry tough minutes and sometimes with struggling players.

Nuge has somewhat been sheltered but has always been the defensive catalyst on the line.

Gagner has been up and down the line up playing with face punchers to raw rookies

Yak has been up and down also,

Eberle I have seen on the third line maybe a dozen times. He has had by far the most comforting introduction to the league and the most accomadating situations to play in out of all of our first round picks since 2007.

You are right time will tell, but seeing how eberle was given 5 years after draft before he was judged or criticized maybe would should extend the same courtesy to our youngest player. Part of this probably has to do with the fact that we excepted losing a few years back but we dont now.

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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

The money he's been paid to date is in the past. Maybe that ownership group in Nashville would look favourably to getting out from underneath the remaining 82 million due over the remainder of that deal, no? Is there an echo in here, yes, 82 million dahlahs (a lot of cash to a small market team heavily dependant on revenue sharing) Zarny.

With Jossi, and now Seth Jones, maybe that's an option to help address their abysmal top 9 forward group.

If #99 can be traded, so can #6. Organizations often change their minds/direction, and rather quickly these days I'm sure. You're opinion is no different than the pre August 8th 1988 talk there Zarny. Some trades don't need to make sense. It could be just not wanting to be house poor anymore.

The only time Nashville will trade Weber is offseason. They pay him 13M signing bonus and 1M salary.

If they trade him now, they will pay him about 13.4M to play about 40% of the regular season. And who will buy their tickets for the rest of the year with Weber gone?

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Jason Gregor wrote:

Who says Yakupov is considered to have a higher ceiling? Because he was drafted 1st overall? IMO That has no bearing now that both are in the NHL.

As for saying Eberle was protected and plays with great players, you do realize that Eberle, regardless of who he plays with, has produced chances and points.

I'm not opposed to trading Eberle, if the package is that good, but when I compare the two players Eberle is better in every facet, and I don't see Yakupov's hockey sense improving as much as it needs to be to be a better overall player than Eberle.

Time will tell.

Right on, JG. Yakupov is a PP specialist, and right now only has a huge shot (one of the best, no doubt). But other than that, at this point in his career, brings nothing else to the team.

Trading Ebs over Yak is a crazy notion.

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@Quicksilver ballet

99 wasnt traded, he was SOLD!

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