A HALL OF A MESS

Jason Gregor
February 22 2013 08:33AM

Much of the talk after last night's 3-1 loss to Minnesota focused on Taylor Hall's kneeing major on Cal Clutterbuck. I suspect Hall will get a short suspension from the hit, but I don't think it was malicious. Hall never took any extra strides to hit him, and he did lean in and down to avoid head contact, however, the initial point of contact looked to be a combination of Hall's knee/thigh/hip on Clutterbuck's lower thigh and he likely gets a Shanaban.

But that play shouldn't overshadow the fact that the Oilers continue to struggle in many facets of their overall game.

The Oilers didn't come out of the gate with much energy or urgency. Tonight was the Wild's first regulation road win in 20 games. They were 4-15 in their previous 19 and all the wins came in the shootout. They were not a confident road team, yet the Oilers allowed the Wild to lull them to sleep.

The Oilers refusal to shoot the puck from good shooting areas is killing them. They had guys in the slot who elected to pass to a teammate who was in a worse shooting area on the wing. The Oilers continue to be too pretty, and Ralph Krueger has no choice but to mix up his top-six.

He needs to put Ryan Smyth, Ben Eager or Ryan Jones amongst his skilled guys. Simplify the game in the offensive zone, and get somebody who is willing to go to the net and get some greasy goals.

QUICK HITS

  • I understand the Oilers are a young team and are still developing, but they need to realize they can't just win games by playing pretty. It is a hard lesson, but one they need to learn quickly.
     
  • I thought Theo Peckham played well for his first NHL game in almost a year. He looked much more comfortable handling the puck than he did at any point last season. I'd play him again on Saturday.
     
  • Ran into Ryan Jones after the game and he will have one more meeting with the doctor, but he sounded confident that he'd be ready to play Saturday. The Oilers could use his simple, go to the net style of play.
     
  • I haven't noticed Magnus Paajarvi in the last two games. With that type of speed he should be able to generate at least one good scoring chance a game. He and Hartikainen need to get their fire back.
     
  • Ben Eager did his job. He skated well, had five hits and as a bonus chipped in with an assist. In a game with zero emotion early, I'd love to see him ignite the crowd and his team with an energy shift or a solid hit, but overall his game was good.
     
  • Ryan Smyth scored a typical greasy Smyth goal. A nice birthday present, but it won't mean as much to him in a loss.
     
  • Watched the replay of the Wild's third goal, and the Oilers didn't have a horrible breakdown. Nick Schultz steps up nicley onCal Clutterbuck and the puck doesn't go anywhere until Clutterbuck ,from his knees and with one hand on his stick, pokes it ahead to Cullen. Not a bad decision, but a painful play to give up in a 2-1 game. Sometimes the other team makes a good play.
     
  • It was a great second effort by Clutterbuck, which is something the Oilers just aren't getting enough of. They need to start paying the price more often and doing the ugly things that help you win games in the NHL.
     
  • I liked that Hall was willing to lay a big hit on an opposing player. Of course, you don't want to see that result, but if he can add a bit of a physical presence to his game it would be good. I don't need him laying guys out regularly, but having a bit of an edge to his game as he matures and gains a few more pounds is exactly what this team needs from someone on their top two lines.
     
  • Hall will have a phone hearing today at 12:30 p.m. Edmonton time. This is Hall's second major penalty of his NHL career. His first came in a fight v. Derek Dorsett.
     
  • Here is the hit again if you didn't see it. Thoughts?

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#51 Thelma Roehrs
February 22 2013, 12:14PM
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My take on the Oilers after watching them from day one -- what they REALLY need is another Semensky or Anderson to protect the young players. Do you think for one minute NHL players would get away with trying to take out the young good players just because they are not as big as they are ? Remember Gretsky -- you just didn't dare hurt him or you were in deep trouble. Get some muscle and get it fast before someone gets hurt real bad.

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#52 Spydyr
February 22 2013, 12:16PM
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It is about time some one on the Oilers put fear into an opponent.It has been a long time.Too long.

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#53 rob
February 22 2013, 12:20PM
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Hall did what other oilers should be doing,STANDING UP FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!!.Hall is growing into a leader and will accept whatever the penalty is like a man.To bad Tamellini and Lowe wont make trades,get the kids some help and protect Hall,Ebs and RNH so they can play the way they should!Peckham looked good and getting Jones back will help,but time to pony up a draft pick or two with Ganger or mps or hartikkinan or tuebert or marcinin to help bolster this team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#54 @Oilanderp
February 22 2013, 12:25PM
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Thank god I have my trusty cryogenic chamber.

*sets dial to 2 years from now, tips his hat, and shuts the door*

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#55 Captain Obvious
February 22 2013, 12:28PM
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The Oilers don't have enough skill. Take a look at the roster of good teams like St. Louis or Chicago. They have 8-10 forwards you could term guys with offensive skill.

The Oilers have five (six if you count Yakupov). Adding Smyth, Eager, or Jones to the top two lines isn't going to help when the problem is that we have slugs like Belanger, Smyth, and Eager eating up good minutes instead of guys like Frolik, Stalberg, and Kruger, or Sobotka, Berglund, and Stewart.

Good teams have three scoring lines. While the first two lines are getting all the blame the real problem is that the Oilers only have six real players. If they had more good players then there would still be some scoring when the bounces weren't going their way. There would also be options if you wanted to mix up the lines.

All the excitement on the young guns has directed attention away from the fact that the roster as a whole is one of the least skilled in the league. This is a bad hockey team because after the five guys who can play it is a roster filled with very marginal NHL players.

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#56 Walter Sobchak
February 22 2013, 12:30PM
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"A Hall of a mess"

You said it Gregor!

I'm glad Hall stuck up for himself, seen an opportunity to lay a huge hit on a guy that has taken a cheep shot or two at him in the past.

That being said, the Oilers are screwed, this is the Mess! A damning indictment of the management.

Why does Krueger not split up the two player that are causing all the goals against?

Can no other players on this team play with Gagner other then Hemsky?

Lose against Phoenix and you can kiss this year good-bye, the oilers will be lucky to win more the 3 games on the trip.

I want to hear this question, why wasn't something done prior to the road trip when your team still had a chance Steve?

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#57 Wendy01
February 22 2013, 12:30PM
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I didn't mind the emotion that drove Hall to make the hit. I didn't like the outcome. Clutterbuck is a big guy who often makes our little guys pay, but that being said, I hope he isn't out long term. I believe Hall will be suspended for that 2 -3 game interval. I really thought that this team would come out with some urgency to their game last night and instead it was a total snooze fest. Shoot the puck on net! You never know what might happen, but this bunch seems completely unwilling to play a simple game. Until they have some more size and grit, they will not get the room to "play pretty". Coach Kruger likely had a sleepless night while he tried to figure out where all his stars have disappeared to. It's going to be another long off season and although there are only 48 games, I'm seeing glaring similarities to the last 5 years. Tambellini needs to do something, but again there is nothing going on. These young players need a leader. Clearly Horcoff is not that guy. Clearly Smyth is not that guy. Make something happen Tambo!

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#58 Death Metal Nightmare
February 22 2013, 12:33PM
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Clutterbuck got what was coming to him over years of being a prick. sad but true. not a cool way to see hockey. any other player, on the Wild, id be extremely disappointed in Hall... right now, not so much.

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#59 Old Soldier
February 22 2013, 12:44PM
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First of all I am going to apologize because I am a little bit pissed off this afternoon. I watched the game last night, and as with most Oiler fans I wasnt pleased with the result and I am not going to pretend to defend their play, but I am going to defend Hall.

I have said before unapologetically that I am a dinosaur, that cranky old bugger that lives down the street threatening noisy teens with a broom. So forgive me for my non-politically correct point of view.

Hall's hit last night, to me, was neither dirty, nor in my mind, even a penalty. After reading some blogs from the 2 major media outlets on the hit, I took the time to do the slow motion, frame by frame stuff on the hit, and my first impression is still the same. Hall led with his hip, first contact was hip to thigh, and that it was perfectly clean.

I believe the penalty was a result of the injury, not the hit. If CC had jumped up and gone after Hall there would have been no penalty, and as with anything in the NHL nowadays, if it looks like it might offend grandma we better reveiw it.

What is happening to this damn league, we are taking this "player safety" crap to the nth degree and its being led as usual by the non-playing media who feels the need to create the news rather than report it. As an Oiler fan I loved the hit, I loved the fact it was Hall who did the hitting, and I am just a tad upset with the treatment the kid is getting.

Spectors idiotic question last night was a perfect example, and I loved the fact that Hall took him to task for it. No more of this apologetic crap, dont feel sorry for being a leader. You saw him, saw a chance and decided to go for it.....good for you. I am sick of reading about player "X" texting his apologies for something or another. Screw that, he is not a buddy, he is the opposition. If you get a chance to legally take the guy out, go for it, and that goes both ways.

You want to know what happens when you take the emotion out of the game....just watch the last 4 games from the Oilers. Lots of talent, skate circles around people at times, yet there is no passion, well thats not fair, lets say not too much passion. I see glimpses when I see Hemsky driving to the net with a defenceman draped on him, and then I see Yak skate twice around the perimeter and lose the puck eventually. We need to see more players get pissed off, even Gretz would swing his stick at your head if you pulled crap on him.

The core of this team has youth, has talent, has skill, they even seem to all get along. Now they need to build that cockiness and abrasiveness the old Oilers used to have. RNH needs to hack a few ankles when players rough him up on the boards, Yak needs to utilize his strength and take a defenceman out now and then, Ebs needs to forget about Lady Byng and focus on The Maurice Richard trophy, and become more aggressive.

This team is building something that could dominate the league for years, BUT, the one thing they are missing.....Bobby Clarke, Ken Linesman, Mathew Barnaby, Darcy Tucker...etc. There is not one player on the Oilers who is hated....not even Eager who seems to have completely lost his edge. We need a player or two that will create that emotion, that wont let things get stagnant. I would love to see someone like Downy, or Hartnell(perfect fit to me).

Anyways sorry for rambling, again

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#60 Walter Sobchak
February 22 2013, 12:49PM
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When I look at this line up what do I see?

Lets start with goal.

A goalie who was hot playing above his average, seems that has come back down to his norm.

A back up that's done, this year or next.

Defence

A whole bunch of 3/4 defensmen, throw in a couple of 5/6 and 7/8 and that's are defence.

Forwards.

A bottom six of AHL players............that's right AHL. Minus Eager.

Top six of highly skilled players with very little grit...Good on Hall though!

Centers

One injured.

One who is world class

Another who thinks offensive only with zero defensive instincts who has been making the same mistakes game in and game out despite being in the league for 6 years.

WOW!

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#61 Ryan
February 22 2013, 12:55PM
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Smytty to add some grease to that first line in the absence of hall?

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#62 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 12:57PM
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@Thelma Roehrs

If the Oilers protect teammates after dirty hits, they'll get 17 to 19 minutes and the team that threw the dirty hit will get a 4 minute PP. Oilers aren't allowed to protect because of the instigator.

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#63 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 12:58PM
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@rob

Why are you running Gagner out of town. Getting fed up of fans always running players out of town. No wonder no one wants to sign here when fans run them out of town.

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#64 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 01:20PM
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@oilersOne

If Clutterbuck had done that to Hall, no penalty would have been called and there would be no hearing. Doan laid a dirty hit on Horcoff and got nothing, not even a fine. Morris hit Whitney when they had won in OT and got nothing. There seems to be a rule in the NHL rule book that throwing illegal and dirty hits on the Oilers is fine as we won't suspend you matter if there's an injury or not. See the Doan hit on Horcoff for proof.

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#65 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 01:23PM
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@Mac962

No matter what Tambo does, fans like you will bash him. He makes a trade, fans will say Oilers got fleeced. They don't make a trade, they'll get bashed for sitting on their hands. I agree with Jason Gregor's column a couple of weeks ago. Oilers fans have OPP.

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#66 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 01:26PM
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@non descript

Another Oilers hater. Clutterbuck has laid dirty hits on Hall the last few years way worse and got away with no suspension. It's because the NHL rule is dirty hits and illegal are fine against the Oilers. They're not fine against the other 29 teams. The NHL hates the Oilers.

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#67 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 01:29PM
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@Wendy01

Problem is that had Clutterbuck laid the same hit on Hall and Hall got injured, there wouldn't have been a penalty called and the NHL would have called it a clean hit because an Oilers player had been injured instead of one of the other 29 teams. Sick of the NHL Oilers hatred.

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#68 Jasmine
February 22 2013, 01:33PM
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@HockeyNuttz

Clutterbuck is allowed to the same crap and get away with it. That's the problem in the NHL. If Clutterbuck had done that to Hall, there wouldn't have even been a penalty and the NHL would have called the hit legal as they think dirty and illegal hits against the Oilers is fine. No wonder the team keeps getting injured. When they protected teammates, they get between 17 to 19 minutes for instigating.

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#69 BigE91
February 22 2013, 01:34PM
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Last nights game may have been the toughest game to watch in the last 2 years. The Oilers let the Wild dictate the pace. Showed virtually no fire and absloutely no push back when they got down 2-1.

I'm a big fan of the kids but I think they've been put up as saviors and franchise players way to quick. There is no leadership here. From one end of the bench to the other someone has to step up and take this team by the scruff and lead them to a win with some passion. With the exception of Gagner I don't see any heart and soul in the top 6 (Yak has potential to be that guy if they let him). These guys are just putting in their time at this point trying to score pretty goals and winning the odd game. I like the Nuge as a player but right now I'm thinking the Oilers would have been better off with Landeskog because he seems to play like he gives a damn.

Winning matters here or it used too. How do they continue to sell out a builiding when the chance of them winning on a given night is about 40%. Once every 10 games they pull off something exciting and that's supposed to be good enough? I'm a big fan of Oiler tradition but it's time to let go of the old. Bring in some hockey guys to fix this thing because Kevin and Steve have not. Katz can take all the old Oilers he used to watch fishing or something but stop hiring them and get with the program. Supposedly this team means alot to this city, the owner is getting a new arena for practically handed to him. It's high time he showed the same committment back by doing what it takes to develop a competitive team that has a chance to win something. One meaningful play off run in 20 years is pathetic and we (me included) keep coming back thinking next year is going to change. My god look at us, we're Leaf fans.

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#70 Wendy01
February 22 2013, 01:43PM
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Jasmine wrote:

Problem is that had Clutterbuck laid the same hit on Hall and Hall got injured, there wouldn't have been a penalty called and the NHL would have called it a clean hit because an Oilers player had been injured instead of one of the other 29 teams. Sick of the NHL Oilers hatred.

C'mon you guys. There is no conspiracy theory here. Just some guys in a room in New York or Toronto or wherever who don't always get it right. This is not personal. If it is... then the NHL is just like the WWE. I just won't believe it.

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#71 atleastwehavethekhl
February 22 2013, 01:54PM
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@BigE91

Leaf fans we are not. If we were, we'd be talking about how great Whitney is. How Tambo has finally brought together a solid roster. How we're a Matt Stajan or Nik Antropov away from a cup.

Nope. Leaf fans we are not.

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#72 Get rid of HALL!
February 22 2013, 02:10PM
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The only way the Oilers get better is to get tougher on forward with skill!

The only way to get tougher on forward with skill is to trade for it.

HALL has no chemistry with NUGE and EBERLE.

Trade Hall for a top forward from another team out of the conference.

Some players that come to mind:

Evander Kane (Hated in Winnipeg) Stephen Weiss (Has to go) + Kulikov Ryan Callahan

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#73 Dog Train
February 22 2013, 02:17PM
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It's too bad that Hall had to be the one to send the message to Clutterbuck. While I agree that guys like Eager and Peckham played well, those are the guys that you want to take one for the team. I agree that Hall's hit wasn't malicious but he is clearly frustrated. Hall is not used to losing this much and I would like to see more players with his 'losing is unacceptable' mentality.

On the subject of second efforts, Smyth's goal was a product of his diving effort. We need more of that.

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#74 keilan
February 22 2013, 02:32PM
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Absolutely loved the hit, next time Hall has someone in his sights I hope he doesn’t back off the hit.

This is a game where you “either eat or be eaten”.

Serve whatever time they give you and keep your mouth closed. Come back and impose your will against all others and just maybe some of the boyz will get with the program.

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#75 bigguy13
February 22 2013, 02:39PM
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So what happens when Hall has to pay the piper against Clutterbuck? He will get his ass kicked by Clutterbuck because of code on the ice. Next time we play Minny guess who Clutterbuck will be looking for.

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#76 kawi460
February 22 2013, 02:44PM
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Umm i hope Hall doesn't get suspended i just think 5 min was the right call, but if you break it down in slow mo... hit looks like he was bracing for a hit leening with his leg but not sticking his knee out to the side.

Its seems half the team on any given night doesn' want to win, at least as bad as the opposing team. They need to have a gritty guy on every line almost or someone that can fire up the crowd with a big play or a hit. I'd still offer up some youth and picks, try to pry Clowe away from the sharks. Atleast go after another Eager type. Maybe Mike Brown or Ryan Reaves to enject energy in the building.

And as for PRV-Harti playing "so" well i don't see it. Maybe they should be sent to the minors for a few games to further along there development. when Petrell and Jones are good. to go.

I'd love to see Just a pipe dream... Hall/Gagner/Hemmer Clowe/Nuge/Eberle Eager/Horc/Yak Smyth/Belenger/Jones

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#77 kawi460
February 22 2013, 02:47PM
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@bigguy13

So if i were eager/peckham i would tell clutterbuck if you go near hall i will take a major on grandlund....

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#78 keilank
February 22 2013, 02:53PM
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bigguy13 wrote:

So what happens when Hall has to pay the piper against Clutterbuck? He will get his ass kicked by Clutterbuck because of code on the ice. Next time we play Minny guess who Clutterbuck will be looking for.

Maybe Hall will give it to him again! He should be thanking his lucky stars Hall didn't take his head off last night.

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#79 JonahtheWhale
February 22 2013, 03:35PM
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After watching the replay (about 150+ times) looks to me that 2 POWER forwards were skating fast and Hall happened to see him at the last moment and ducked the shoulder knowing there would be contact and didnt want to give him a head hit. At Hall's speed that could've hurt clutterbuck more or even hurt Hall as well. Felt Hall did what he could do with the time given. Let's be honest you think if clutterbuck would of saw Hall at the last moment Hall would have got the same treatment. Hahahahaha. Clutterbuck would of drove that shoulder into Hall and potentialy hurt him. Also why are people still hating on Gagner? Without him we'd have a few more loses then we do now. Yeah he's not perfect but we are starting to see what he's developing into. Let's get rid of him like we have so many others(Satan, Lupul, Broziak, Cleary, to name a few) and let him be a star elsewhere right? Dumb. P.S.- If anyone think if/when clutterbuuck hall are on the ice at the same time and someone tries to fight Hall. Kreuger lets Eager,Peckham,Fistric and Hordichuck in the lineup and tell them to let Wild players to think twice. Plus everyone that thinks theres a conspiracy against the Oilers grow up. It's hockey and people make mistakes. The nhl needs to make sure their refs are consistent around the league. That would fix a lot, is just having consistency in calls.

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#80 DieHard
February 22 2013, 03:58PM
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Would love to have Cluterbuck on our team. Good check but probably 1 game.

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#81 JaketheSnake
February 22 2013, 04:34PM
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bigguy13 So what happens when Hall has to pay the piper against Clutterbuck? He will get his ass kicked by Clutterbuck because of code on the ice. Next time we play Minny guess who Clutterbuck will be looking for.

Are you serious, if you have that mentality when you play the game of hockey you are a PUSSY Thats right A PUSSY Go out and play the game, finish your checks and you will be a better player When ButterCup comes calling stand up to him and he will back down. Thats how players like him are

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#82 ProdWoo
February 22 2013, 04:39PM
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My take, put Smyth on the top line, to teach the kids to play simple and hard, instil some simple, hard and straight forward work ethic.

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#83 Hat Pughes
February 22 2013, 05:12PM
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bigguy13 wrote:

So what happens when Hall has to pay the piper against Clutterbuck? He will get his ass kicked by Clutterbuck because of code on the ice. Next time we play Minny guess who Clutterbuck will be looking for.

Whats Clutterbuck going to do..hit him from behind? Like last time -- seriously man!!

Im pretty sure he doesnt have the kahones to drop the mittens.

Clutterbuck is well known as a predatorial hitter. He of all people should know to never come across the middle not looking where your going. Google many of Clutterbuck's hits and youll see he is pushing the margin on being late or he is hitting from the blindside (or behind).

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#84 Hat Pughes
February 22 2013, 05:15PM
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Ok Clutterbuck fans tell me if this isnt cheap and predatorial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq_cNZjaSK0

(why oh why am I doing this and bring to light one singular incident)

So think Taylor Hall didnt have this ingrained in his head about the cheap shot he owed Clutterbuck???

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#85 Hammers
February 22 2013, 05:53PM
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Seems I said 2 weeks ago RNH, Ebbs & Smyth ; Gags , Hemmer & Harski or Magnus ; Hall (either Hartski or Magnus know) , Yak with Belanger; VV , Eager & Pettrell . Know Jones is back he slots into one of those spots (injuries etc) They need 3 lines each with 2 of the top 6 guys.

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#86 bigguy13
February 22 2013, 06:19PM
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@JaketheSnake

Have you seen Clutterbuck fight, and have you seen Hall fight? Your kidding me if you do not think Clutterbuck will be looking for him, i know i would. Look at what happened when Avery punched the snot out of Smid, that was a dirty play but the Oilers wanted payback, its part of the game and I expect Hall to stand up (our best player right now) to either fight or keep your head up when he is on the ice.

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#87 bigguy13
February 22 2013, 06:24PM
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@Hat Pughes

Google Clutter and Yandle and tell me he would not drop the mitts, Yandle beat the snot out of Petrell

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#88 HatPughes
February 22 2013, 06:33PM
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bigguy13 wrote:

Google Clutter and Yandle and tell me he would not drop the mitts, Yandle beat the snot out of Petrell

So your "rational logic" is because player A beat up player B, player A will beat up player C???? Ok you stick with that.

Wow I just did watch that fight...nice little cheap take down when Cal had Yandle in a clench. Like I said he's a cheap player.

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#89 Hat Pughes
February 22 2013, 06:37PM
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bigguy13 wrote:

Have you seen Clutterbuck fight, and have you seen Hall fight? Your kidding me if you do not think Clutterbuck will be looking for him, i know i would. Look at what happened when Avery punched the snot out of Smid, that was a dirty play but the Oilers wanted payback, its part of the game and I expect Hall to stand up (our best player right now) to either fight or keep your head up when he is on the ice.

So let me get this right...Smid asks Avery to go...Avery says No...Smid looks away as Avery drops his gloves and sucker punches him. Smid was a D-carcASS for letting his guard down but Avery was just well "Avery". And thats noble and honorable fighting according to your standards. Again you just stick with that theory.

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#90 hat pughes
February 22 2013, 06:46PM
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bigguy13 wrote:

Google Clutter and Yandle and tell me he would not drop the mitts, Yandle beat the snot out of Petrell

Hey bigguy while your scouring fights from 5 years ago try watching the tilt between Cal and Colaiacovo.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/54123

Tilt is a wrong term. Cal was catching and doing no pitching. Also just for kicks watch the hit on CC that preceeded the fight..(puck shot a long time before the hit was finished from the blindside-as usual).

(Im kinda getting a kick out of you defending him - cut bait and just come clean - he's a cheap predatorial player) LOL

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#91 Slats
February 22 2013, 08:55PM
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Hall gets 2 game suspension - Boo!!

- kneeing - Cluterbuck did not have puck - no priors and last but not least if you are comparing to the Doan on Horcoff

-Edmonton is not a floundering franchise owned by the NHL that could not be without its franchise player!

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=656981&navid=nhl:topheads

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#92 Serious Gord
February 22 2013, 11:12PM
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@Rama Lama

The new CBA puts the bottom fifteen teams in the lottery. This even finishing dead last only gives you a 12.5% chance of getting the #1 pick and less than 50% chance of getting in the top three.

Tanking the season is no longer a sane option. Trades and development within are the path to success now. And it's too late this season for development.

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#93 Rick Carriere
February 23 2013, 12:41AM
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Its about time the oilers lay some hurt on another team(clutterbuck especially)..way the go Taylor..and by the way,thay hit was legal by definition..hip to upper thigh area,the suspension he got was bogus...keep it up Oilers,thats how to make other teams think twice about laying cheat hits on them...

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#94 DrunkGuyTy
February 23 2013, 09:56AM
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@Old Soldier

You crusty pr1ck, I agree with you about 95%. Only difference is I'm not into splitting hairs about it being knee-on-knee vs. leg-on-leg but I think the 2 games was appropriate - lower limbs are important to these guys' careers and I think the hitter risks their own leg when laying these hits.

Having said that. Its about friggin' time someone on this team decided to lay down a little dirty. I hate this whole politically correct, emotionless, uninspired sh1t we've been seeing. You see it reflected in the crowd at Rexall - it sounds like a bloody morgue in there many nights. (Hell, my 7 yo's games are the same - how did we as a society become so pussified and conservative?)

Hall is the only one on this team with any combination of emotin and skill and is therefore the most untouchable on this team IMO. Others; 14, 93, 64, 55 bring only one or the other and that makes them less credible / valuable.

Hall is the only one, at 21 (or whatever) that should be wearing the C on this team. No offence to 14, 93, or 19 but we need more of 4's influence on this team.

And people worried about him getting his a$$ kicked later..... Pffffffftttt. I doubt Hall is worried.

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