GDB 19.0: THE DREADED STARS
Jason Gregor
February 28 2013 11:50AM
The Dallas Stars domination over the Edmonton Oilers has become laughable. In 74 meetings the Oilers have won a meagre 15 games. The Stars have won 79.7% of the games. No other franchise has dominated the Oilers like the Stars, but if the Oilers want to make the playoffs, or at least stay in the hunt, they need to beat the Stars.
I don't see a scenario where both of these teams make the playoffs, so the Oilers need to win. A win would give them a 33.3 winning percentage against Dallas this year, which would be a big step forward.
You can't pinpoint one specific reason why the Oilers have struggled to beat Dallas since they moved from Minnesota at the start of the 1993/1994 season. There has been 14 different head coaches between the two teams during this period and hundreds of different players, yet the Stars have completely dominated the Oilers.
Just for fun here is a look at how the Oilers have fared v. all the Western teams since October of 1993. I only calculated wins, not ties (ended in 1999) or points for losing in OT or SO.
| Opponent | GP | W | Winning% |
| Dallas | 74 | 15 | 20.2 |
| Detroit | 73 | 24 | 32.8 |
| Calgary | 109 | 41 | 37.6 |
| St. Louis | 72 | 28 | 38.8 |
| Colorado | 102 | 40 | 39.2 |
| Vancouver | 111 | 44 | 39.6 |
| Chicago | 73 | 29 | 39.7 |
| Nashville | 53 | 22 | 41.5 |
| Minnesota | 70 | 30 | 42.8 |
| San Jose | 81 | 35 | 43.2 |
| Los Angeles | 82 | 39 | 47.5 |
| Phoenix | 74 | 41 | 55.4 |
| Columbus | 45 | 28 | 62.2 |
| TOTAL | 1019 | 416 | 40.8 |
The last 18 and 1/3 seasons haven't been stellar for the Oilers or their fans, but the Dallas Stars have absolutely owned the Oilers.
LINE UP
Hall/Nugent-Hopkins/Eberle
Jones/Gagner/Hemsky
SmythBelanger/Yakupov
Eager/Vande Velde/Petrell
Interesting to note it looks like Yakupov might play right wing tonight. We will see if he is more comfortable attacking from the right side and if he has any troubles on his off-wing in his own end. Krueger didn't play him on the RW to start because he felt it was harder to play the puck along the boards in the defensive zone.
Smid/Petry
N.Schultz/J.Schultz
Fistric/Potter
It sounds like Whitney and Peckham will be the healthy scratches, but that isn't confirmed. I thought Peckham played decent in his only game of the year, and feel he deserves another chance, but clearly the coaches see it differently.
Dubnyk
QUICK HITS
- A source tells me the Oilers did put a claim in for Aaron Volpatti, but the Capitals were ranked lower so they got him first. Currently the Oilers are 7th on the waiver wire. CBJ, BUFF, WSH, FLO, NYI and COL are ahead of them based on standings.
- Volpatti wasn't going to be a major difference maker, but it is obvious the Oilers need more grit. Not just fighting grit, but guys who hate to lose and will do anything to win.
- Watch how Ryan Smyth plays tonight, if he has an average game they might rest him during back-to-back tomorrow in St.Louis.
- Oilers have 16 ES goals in 18 games. They are averaging 0.88 ES goals/game. Last year the Minnesota Wild were the worst in the league with 112 in 82 games, 1.36 ES goals/game. The worst ES scoring rate since 1979 expansion was the 2003 Carolina Hurricanes with 98 ES goals in 82 games, 1.19 ES goals/game.
- To avoid becoming the most anemic ES offence in the past 30+ years the Oilers will need to score 42 ES goals in their next 30 games. Not a crazy number, only 1.4 ES goals/game, but that is almost double the production from their first 18 games.
- UFC Ring Girl and model Arianny Celeste will be at the Nation's 5th birthday party tomorrow night at the Pint off Whyte. You can watch the Oilers/Blues and talk MMA with Arianny. There are only 30 tickets left. All proceeds to go to Inner City Children's Program and you get a T-shirt and $45 in GCs. Hurry and buy them here.
GAME DAY PREDICTION: Eventually the Oilers have to win, right? You've been saying that for years, so why should tonight be any different. Sadly it won't, Oilers lose 4-3.
OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The remaining 30 tickets to the Nation party will be scooped up before puck drop. You don't need any extra incentives to party, but when it includes charity, hotties and a Nation T-shirt it's a no-brainer.
NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: After learning the Oilers put in a claim for Aaron Volpatti, Ben Eager responds with a solid game. He lays out Jamie Benn and scores a goal in the 2nd period. After the game the Oilers brass start looking at the waiver wire wondering if there is anyone else they can put a claim on, but don't end up getting, with the hopes it fires up a few other players.
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@MrMackey
I think it's a straight problem of Eager's penalties. When matched up against the slower bigger third and fourth lines, he less inclined to take a bad penalty, but when he plays against speed and skill, just like other teams playing against our top line, all he can do is hook and slash.
Its a personnel issue.
We need:
bodychecks: -Steve Ott, Theo Peckham, Luke Schenn
Pest: -Max Lapierre, Brandon Prust
Faceoff: -David Steckell
Leadership: -Landeskog, Brendan Morrow
Delete:
-Whitney, Smyth, Petrel, Potty, Alice, Pajarvi
Lineup: Hall-Noogie-Ebs Ott-Gagner-Landeskog Yakupov-Whorecough-Prust Steckell-Lapierre-Morrow
Schenn-J Schultz N.Schultz-Smid Petry-Peckham
=complete annihilation with zero injuries to star players.
I think some people are finally getting on board the Krueger sucks bandwagon. About time guys. Now instead of running guys like Eager out of town can we focus our hate on Krueger instead?
He refuses to truly change the lines when it has been proven convincingly that we suck 5v5. He can't handle elite talent (see point one as well as his handling of Yakupov). And also are the special teams really any better than last year? I mean the Nuge run PP last year was great but this years PP (while being our main source of scoring) seems lost at time and many of our PP's fail to create even one scoring chance, some don't even make it into the zone.
I view all of this as coaching deficiencies. I don't think you can blame bottom six injuries for the failings on the club. It's about time this team started showing some signs of life and some real promise for the future. We are quickly heading towards another high draft pick and that is just simply unacceptable. We should be entering our winning window right now instead of being stuck in a perpetual rebuild.
The time is now Oilers, prove to us that all these years in the dumpster have been worth it.
Breaking News! Flames sign O'reilly to a 2 year 10 mil offer. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/28/caps-claim-volpatti-off-waivers/#/2013/02/28/breaking-flames-sign-oreilly-to-offer-sheet/
GDP: Because I'm sick of the Oilers losing to this stupid team - Oilers win, 2-1.
Wow, ballsy move by Calgary. Good for them.
but its not finished yet. the Avs could match it.
$5M/yr for 2 years + 1st and 3rd round picks in this years draft? That's damn expensive for O'Reilly... Your first 1Rnd pick, with a Center heavy draft year, could turn out to be an O'Reilly anyway. I'm not sure if this is a good move or bad move, but atleast it's a move.
Is Calgary the first team this year to offer a RFA a contract offer this year, I believe so and wonder how the other 29 managers will react to this. Good thing we locked up Hall/Ebbs to long term deals (or is it?)
IT IS
The thing the pushes this into the bad move category is how high Calgary's pick is probably going to be. I mean seems like it should for sure end up being a top ten pick in what is being considered a good draft year. If a playoff team had made this offer I would have said good move. But who knows maybe this improves Calgary enough to become a playoff team.
Ballsy move by Calgary, for all the talk that they should tank you got to hand it to them for trying to put a winner on the ice. Takes more guts to try then to purposely tank repeatedly
Hall's going to bring the heat tonight and lead the Oilers to a big win. 5-4 in regulation, five even strength goals. Haha, I'm allowed to dream right?
Colorado will match.
Colorado would be stupid to match! Calgary just screwed themselves.
Don't like the move from Calgary's perspective.
They have an aging core, with Kipper and Iginla just about done. Who is O'Reilly going to center for the next 2 yrs?
If they miss the playoffs and that pick winds up in the top 5 in a real strong draft? Wow. Could be Mike Millbury bad.
Could get them into the playoffs, maybe, (O'Reilly is not a miracle worker) but to give up a top 10 pick for 2 years of ROR doesn't make any sense long term.
O'Reilly is a good pick up for Calgary if they don't match. Great on the faceoff, 22 years old and more ice time than any other forward on the team. He's worth 5 million a year IMO.
When did O'Reilly become a big deal? 26pt, 26pt and 55pt seasons are OK, but not amazing. Must be his charachter.
Nope.
He also forgot to trade Omark and Plante for Crosby
Flames could be giving up a potentially high 1st round pick if they get him - in a draft that everyone is salivating over. Desperation. Nice.
What, and you aren't happy with Belanger and his non-Nedved like moves?
Or Paajarvi who can skate like the wind yet won't get his nose dirty?
Or Nick Schultz our "big lumbering stay at home defenceman" who I have yet to see run anyone into the boards?
Etc
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Baertschi and Glencross or Cammallari most likely. This move all depends on where that first round draft pick ends up being. If Calgary tanks or even misses playoffs this could turn into being a huge folly. Roll the dice. At least Calgary does something to try and make their team better. Especially with Iginla and Kipprusoff being at the end of their careers.
If O'Rielly is a bonafide first line center (which I think he is or at least will be in the near future) then trading a 1st and a 3rd to get him is a pretty sound trade.
Also this could be a move that move Calgary into the playoffs which would diminish the value of that 1st round pick. Really this signing can't be evaluated until we know who that first round pick is.
Could be folly, could be genius. Either way its a bold move and I think it is an immediate and longterm improvement for Calgary.
Hard to sell HOPE if all you have to announce is a new design for the teams bathtowels or blinds in the office...that 2nd year salary is going to be killer the following year if the cap stays low...but who cares its the Shames...Why was tambo in OKC lastnite when McT + Klowe were in Philly?? Did he have to sit at the little kids table or was it past his bedtime??? As for tonite the 15 pack infront of me says we win...atleast until my eyes refocus tomorrow
You can't really evaluate the deal until, likely, five years after the next draft.
Until then, the Flames win.
Good on Feaster, going out on a limb like that with his job in jeopardy. A small gamble for a kid who could wear the Flames jersey for the next 10 yrs. Feaster and their pro scouting staff obviously like this kid alot.
Atleast one GM in Alberta is trying to do something to prevent a prolonged pathetic aimless walk in the desert. Good on Calgary, hope he doesn't become another Oiler killer for the next decade.
uhh..why is Sportsnet saying Danis is starting?
Jones hit leads to turn over to goal.
Nice start to this game so far. Gagner getting a goal 1 minute in doesn't suck. Good on Jones for creating the traffic.
BELANGER TO PETRELL!!!
* be still my beating heart *
Hahaha, no doubt!
Anyone else notice that those were both even strength goals? Nice work, Oilers.
Damn that wall J. Schultz has hit! Damn its eyes!!
If only he could score more and at EV!
What a waste now that the other teams have figured him out!
Avs matched, not a surprise. Yes he'll be overpaid, but he's better than draft picks, that might turn into players.
Oilers missed great chance on 5-on-3 to put game away...Now need a solid PK.
wow didnt Col long to match..a PP goal would have been nice but still a good game so far
Belanger couldn't get a shot on the break away...say it isn't so.
Belanger couldnt decide which move to use...
Nice kill...oh Belanger was going for the highlight reel bank off the goalie out of the corner...good try
Booing for a hurt player? Stay classy Dallas.
Yikes...smells that bad eh Ladi?
nice aggressive play Dubby
I lost respect for the Dallas fans back in 2000 or 2001 when the fans threw garbage at the Oilers after they won a playoff game there.
It was more than the actions of a few hotheads.
Too bad Colorado matched. Would've been funny watching Feaster try and work his way back into the draft before round 4.
Ok boys, lets not waste this. Good opportunity to drive the knife in a bit farther.
So NOW does Whitney draw in for the next game?
Wheres Yak havent seen him this period
Someone beat me to it
I'd love to see the stats on 5 on 3, I bet we're one of the worst teams at that.
Gagner fights!!! About time someone showed some fight.
Gagner needs to play the wing. I'd love to see a line with he and Curtis Lazar as centre. No lack of fight between those two.
A fluke goal not against the Oilers? WTF?
Slow down on these EV goals oilers your going to use them up before the road trip is over!!!!
Ummm...I thought those kind of goals only get scored against us...hey they all count
Anyone here remember the save Salo made with the back of his pants? Sometimes the Hockey Gods give us a break.
wheres nail yakupov how is he not out their for the 5 on 3 or 5 0n 4 bad coaching. you could argue that hes our most dangerous powerplay player,how do u not put a guy out their that excels at that and u dont even play him 5 on 5 like u mise well not play him all krueger is useless i thought we were trying to win the game