WARRIOR SHAWN

Lowetide
February 03 2013 10:59AM

The center position will be front and cen, well front page if Shawn Horcoff is out for any length of time. The Nuge (how in hell did he miss that gaping net?) and Sam Gagner (pretty good season so far for a guy no one thinks is a 2line C) are taking care of the offensive business, but with Horcoff out who helps Eric Belanger (if he can walk today) with the heavy lifting?

All graphs and stats below are courtesy Gabriel Desjardins and his dynamic behind the net site. Amazing.

THE ZONE STARTS

  1. Anton Lander 60% offensive zone start
  2. RNH 53.7% "       "       "
  3. Sam Gagner 52.5% "   "    "
  4. Shawn Horcoff 39.1% "   "   "
  5. Eric Belanger 36.1% "    "      "

Ralph Krueger is giving the tough starts at center to Eric Belanger and Shawn Horcoff, and the offensive zone start push to RNH and Sam Gagner. I think we can place this under "duh" strategy, as the Oilers are set up perfectly to give the younger players the push and the older men the hard starts from scrimmage. I don't know why Petrell shows up here but suspect Shawn Horcov has something to do with it.

If Horcoff and or Belanger are gone for any length of time, the Oilers need to be bringing in veteran players. Gagner and the Nuge may one day do the heavy lifting, but this team is set up for those two to score touchdowns. Steve Tambellini might look to Jason Arnott or to the trades that may be available, but there is no "in house" replacement for Horcoff or Belanger.

5X5 SCORING

  1. Sam Gagner 2.50/60
  2. RNH 0.98/60

The Oilers haven't gotten much 5x5 scoring from their 3rd and 4th lines, so Horcoff and Belanger having zero's in this category shouldn't come as a surprise. It does tell us that the guy replacing Horcoff and or Belanger won't have to bring a lot of offense to the parade--if he does, that's a bonus. What he really needs to be though, is low event in his own end.

CORSI REL

Corisl Rel (this is taken from Dudes on Hockey) is "A way to compare players that neutralizes team effects, Corsi Rel is a player’s Corsi when they are on the ice versus when they are off.  If a player has a Corsi/60 of 5.0 (meaning the team directs 5 more shots towards the opposing net than they surrender when the player is on the ice) but a Corsi/60 of 6.0 when the player is sitting on the bench, the player’s Corsi Rel is -1.0.  Corsi Rel is always per 60 minutes of ice time."

  1. RNH 25.4
  2. Shawn Horcoff -0.5
  3. Anton Lander -3.5
  4. Sam Gagner -7.8
  5. Eric Belanger -21.7

Gagner's Corsi Rel is heading in a good direction after a tough start and of course that line has a rookie so there's going to be some struggles this season. Nuge is on the Hall line and that's going to push the river (although Nuge had a tough time by my eye yesterday), and Horcoff is just fine. Belanger on the fourth has been a struggle but again he's been with young players often, and his kids weren't taken #1 overall.

QUAL COMP

It is early for quality of competition numbers, but there is some insight they can offer about how RK is running his bench. Toughest to easiest:

  1. Anton Lander .595
  2. Shawn Horcoff .382
  3. Eric Belanger .174
  4. RNH .152
  5. Sam Gagner -.168

Lander's number is from just a couple of games, and the rest of the numbers are clustered together. I think this tells us that Krueger's priorities lie away from line matching at this point in the season. He's trying to get his offensive players into offensive situations and to get them on the ice as often as possible, and one of the results is a fairly even qual comp number for the four main centermen.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

If Horcoff is injured, the Oilers are going to need a quality veteran to replace him if they plan on getting anywhere this season. They might be able to use Anton Lander--a pretty fair penalty-killer already--in the Belanger role and elevate Belanger to Horcoff's job in the short term, but if they're serious about the second season the Oilers will need to make a move.

Horcoff is not on the IR, and knowing his history he'll drag his ass onto the ice tomorrow night against the Canucks.

Just in time for the Rexall crowd to shower him with boos.

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#2 Dan the Man
February 03 2013, 12:34PM
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I will be concerned if the Oilers choose to buy out Horcoff this summer. They will miss him, so unless they find someone who can fill his role, I think buying him out sets the team back.

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#3 Shane
February 03 2013, 12:56PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I would take just about anyone over Belenger and Horcoff. Yes they may be good in the face offs, but what about the rest of the game? Totally usless on offence and playiing with the puck.

Time for Anton Lander to shine. Also time for ST to finally do something, and earn his keep. You can only finish last, draft first, so many times and ST has shown no other skills as a GM.

I would take Jason Arnott as a fourth line centre any day........at least he is not a hobbit.

Really Rama?!? Your gonna pull the ol Horcoff and Belanger are worthless even after immediately reading the facts that say otherwise.. Give your head a shake!

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#4 Hair bag
February 03 2013, 10:24PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I stand by my words.......I do not mind Horcoff as a fourth line centre. The only guy with less skill is Belenger.......I cannot understand who in the organization thought it would be a good idea to get him?? A total waste of a hockey player who does not belong in the NHL. There is NO team stupid enough to take this guy.

What contingency plan do the Oilers have for a solid third line centre, would be my question? ST is sadly the most incompetent GM in the entire league. All the bright lights we have on this team were as a result of finishing last, drafting first.........a monkey with a frontal labotomy could have accomplished the same.

You're an idiot....look at Belanger's stats before he signed with the Oilers. He's a legitimate NHLer. As for ST, did he spurn you for an autograph - I would have no problem with your opinion if you backed it with some facts or logical thought but you just cast stones. You should try a little harder, an intelligent thought might come eventually...

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#5 Time Travelling Sean
February 04 2013, 11:45AM
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@DSF

How's Florida doing now? I'd rather suck for 3-4 years and be successful for 8-10 than suck one year and be marginal the next and repeat that for the next decade.

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#6 Romanus
February 03 2013, 12:59PM
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VK63 wrote:

Personally I would be curious to know what Gagner could fetch in a trade at the moment.

Teams with high expectations and a brutal start might actually offer up something significant.

Worth exploring as a fact finding, market analysis mission at least.

I was soooo disheartened by that entire train wreck that was the Avs second goal yesterday. Whitney, hemmer and yak got hung with it optically but somewhere floating 80+ feet away was the centre. (and 94 fwiw)

Compounding that observation was the realization that it was a relatively slow developing play for the Avs, Whitney coughs it up and provides some resistance initially, hemmer digs in a hook and battles the puck carrier down the boards also impeding the plays timing. And yet........ bah never mind.

Frustrations abound when efforts are weak.

Yes let's trade our only producing canter because you saw some advanced stats.

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#7 David S
February 03 2013, 01:56PM
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Aaaand for all you guys out there slamming Gagner for his poor FO percentages. He took 13 FO's last game, winning 4 for about 30%. He wins two more - TWO MORE draws and he's "respectable" for the night at about 47%. Two lost draws aren't why this team is underperforming. FO percentages are one of the most over-emphasized stats in hockey.

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#10 Romanus
February 03 2013, 11:59PM
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Hammers wrote:

If Belanger is out on IR bring Maggie back so that he,Hartski & Lander can make up our 4th line . They will be our 3rd line in 2015 anyway.If Horc is still out then Smyth has to cover center as we all know Tambellini won't sign anyone .

~Ya that bad tambo. All those good centers just waiting to be signed and he sits on his hands. ~

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#11 DSF
February 04 2013, 11:35AM
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book¡e wrote:
Making the playoffs in the NHL is not all that difficult since nearly 2/3rds of the teams make it every season.

53.33% of NHL teams make the playoffs in any one season.

So, about half of NHL teams make the playoffs, but more than half of DSF's comments are asinine and only meant to troll others into a response. I am sure DSF would agree with this. Please prop him when he does

More than half...nearly two thirds.

Meh.

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#12 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 01:07PM
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DSF wrote:

What that tells you is the Flames are better than their record (I've watched all their games and I agree) while the Oilers are not as good as their record (ditto).

You know who is as good as thier record??? Everybody!!!

I looked it up....a "record" is a recording of your "record".

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#13 Shane
February 03 2013, 02:14PM
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@Rama Lama

Belanger has been playing the best players(and killing their powerplays)in the league for 10+ years all while maintaining around a 55% FO(IMO the perfect 4line C) and you want to replace him with a 21 year old with 58 GPs in the show who's playing on a third line in the AHL?

Your one of these ELPH guys aren't you?

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#14 @Oilanderp
February 03 2013, 04:47PM
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Sweet baby Jesus... breakin' vet's bones for Seth Jones?

Stop winning for Nate Mackinnon?

Loss accruin' for Jonathan Druin?

Injured like Markov for Aleksander Barkov?

We should start thinking about this year's slogan.

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#15 eastcoastoil
February 03 2013, 11:36AM
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Didn't Arnott fail his medical, is there any indication that he has entered some hard training since then?

On a side note LT, how do you think switching gagner and the nuge would look. Giving some softer mins to RNH to get that confidence back and seeing if he has some chemistry with Yak.

Gagner has done well with Hall and Ebs in the past.

Belanger might be up to the task, showed some old man strength yesterday it seems. Enough to give Horc a break and to recover..

Would like to see Lander sent back down soon and MPS back...

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#16 madjam
February 03 2013, 11:56AM
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PENALTY IMBALANCE - due to youth and size ? Are the Oilers picked on by referees because of their youth and size ? Seems like they expect our youngsters to go down legally or otherwise , and therefore we rarely get questionable calls in our favor . If veteran ( fake or otherwise ) on opposition clubs almost always get favorable calls against us - especially youth and smaller players . We often look like pinballs out there with far too many calls being not being called against opposition . Size also gets the advantage of referees calls over smaller less physical players , and it should not be so .

We are slightly better than last year , but are seemingly far away from being a playoff team this season . Center is less than adequate to help make us a playoff team , despite Dubbie's heroics and J.Schultz valued help .

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#17 Shane
February 03 2013, 12:52PM
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Smart bird.

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#18 Old Retired Guy
February 03 2013, 01:29PM
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@Dan the Man

Agreed

I don't have a firm handle on the Oilers cap issues for next year......but at face value it appears they have no serious cap issues....so why would you pay Horcoff not to play when he's a VERY useful 3rd line center??

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#19 David S
February 03 2013, 01:50PM
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Scoring goals has been left entirely to the top two lines. Hemsky withstanding, that's alot of pressure for some pretty young guys. My guess is Hall, Eberle and NUUUUUUUGE are feeling the heat every time the puck gets on their stick.

Our biggest problem right now is total lack of secondary scoring and Horcoff has to be part of the solution. Something tells me Krueger is checking up on Ryan Jones every day to see when he'll be back. A line of Jones, Horcoff and Smyth might be about the best we could put together, but at least they have some scoring punch.

And I'll be the guy to say it. Ryan Whitney is starting to cost us games.

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#20 Shane
February 03 2013, 02:05PM
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@Oiler Al

I'm sure Gomez had somewhat of a choice as to where to go. Probably not ST fault on that one

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#21 Rama Lama
February 03 2013, 02:37PM
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Old Retired Guy wrote:

resolve, restraint, (and humor)....I respect that...

Thanks........life perspective. If all I can complain about is my hockey team......how blessed am I?

Beyond words.

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#22 Hammers
February 03 2013, 05:24PM
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If Belanger is out on IR bring Maggie back so that he,Hartski & Lander can make up our 4th line . They will be our 3rd line in 2015 anyway.If Horc is still out then Smyth has to cover center as we all know Tambellini won't sign anyone .

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#23 Walter Sobchak
February 03 2013, 10:44PM
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I got a lot of flack during the lockout for saying a few points I believed were key items for the Oilers.

In no particular order, I mentioned that I thought the Oilers were still a boarderline lottery team, that even though the addition of Yakupov and Schultz both payers are huge, it doesn't fix the whole problems.

I mentioned along with a few others that in hindsight, I thought the Oilers would have been better off taking Galchenyuk even though Yakupov is the better player( I am in awe of Yakupov).

They never addressed the Goaltending issues, one being nobody knew how Dubnyk would play, and Khabibulin's body and game is not reliable.

Well, now they have no tough minute centers, the Oilers are being outshot every game by a substantial margin and can't score 5x5.

They are absolutely counting on Dubnyk to save them game after game and without the timely goals from a rookie the Oilers would be sinking.

While a lot of people think that the 5x5 will even out, the same has to be expected of the goaltending.

DSF mentioned that prior to the season starting, if the Oilers were to lose Horcoff or RNH it would be a catastrophic for the Oilers.

The Oilers don't have Horcoff, Belanger and RNH isn't putting up numbers and without Dubnyk the Oilers would be right were the Flames are............again.

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#24 Mark-LW
February 04 2013, 08:22AM
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David S wrote:

Aaaand for all you guys out there slamming Gagner for his poor FO percentages. He took 13 FO's last game, winning 4 for about 30%. He wins two more - TWO MORE draws and he's "respectable" for the night at about 47%. Two lost draws aren't why this team is underperforming. FO percentages are one of the most over-emphasized stats in hockey.

Remember that kings game?

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#25 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 10:28AM
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Krueger has set a plan to put all his offense on two lines with the advantage that this gives the young players, more familiarity and confidence and, it gives you two strong PP units. He will probably stick with this system unless injuries force him to do otherwise. This is at least a part of the reason we are not scoring a lot of 5x5 as you typically need some output from your bottom two lines to achieve decent 5x5 numbers.

The idea of spreading the offensive talent across 3 lines will probably come next year via trade(s) for one or two power forwards or through the promotion/development of players like Hartikanen, or the drafting of a rookie power forward type.

All in all, things are going along according to plan with lots to be happy about, 9 points in the standings, Gagner, Hemmer, Dubnyk, J Schult, Fistric, Yak, all doing pretty well. As well as lots of areas that need improvment, better play 5x5, more toughness, more face off wins, etc.

We are probably only at the half way point of the rebuild, and it isn't just about trades and plugging holes. The larger part is about time. Time to grow bigger and stronger, Time to gain experience, Time to gain playoff experience, Time to develope depth throughout the system, etc. And yes, I feel like the rest of you.....hurry up...I cant wait.

But lets not get panicky.

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#26 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 12:24PM
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DSF wrote:

Kevin Lowe is the VP in Charge of Remembering the 80's.

He doesn't need your help.

You bet Kevin and I and other winners LOVE remembering the 80's ...proud of it.....you should ask Cliff Fletcher about those days..I garauntee you he remembers them well.

But we do need your help remembering the convoluted history of the Dallas North Stars.....can you share that with us one more time.....it was riveting.....

Oh yeah....Do we get to take credit for LA's Cup cause Gretzky played there you know...and the NYR Cup cause Messier won that one...etc, etc, etc...

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#27 match16
February 04 2013, 01:23PM
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@DSF

"It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning's winning." -Vin Diesel

P.S. anyone else see the new fast and furious movie trailer??

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#28 Cheap Shot Charlie
February 03 2013, 11:04AM
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Nope...

It hurts to see how valuable Horcoff but that his cap hit will be his or the teams demise.

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#29 DSF
February 03 2013, 11:16AM
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If Sam Gagner IS a second line centre, this would be the ideal time to show it and do some of the heavy lifting.

His Qual Comp is 6th among Oilers centres so he's still facing the softest competition.

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#30 Kevin
February 03 2013, 11:19AM
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A half speed Arnott is an upgrade over Lander.

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#31 DSF
February 03 2013, 11:20AM
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Lowetide wrote:

DSF: The Oilers haven't employed 6 centers. Also, Gagner controls only his performance on ice, and is doing well in the role Ralph Krueger is using him in. Now I know that kills you, but cheer up! He'll be out of the league in 15 years!

Oops...once again BTN has Eberle listed as a centre.

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#32 a lg dubl dubl
February 03 2013, 11:22AM
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Im suprised how snake bit RNH has been so far this season, yesterday proved it imo, if Nuge scored on that open net,along with Whitney's brain fart on the second goal it would have been a different game. I see Nuge having a breakout game really soon though.

I wonder if Arnott would be willing to play on the wing, be a better option than Petrell or Hodichuck, and can easily slide into the center position when needed.

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#34 Poolanov
February 03 2013, 11:28AM
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How DID he miss that gaping net???

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#36 eastcoastoil
February 03 2013, 11:47AM
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Thanks LT,

Any word on Eager and whats going on with Peckham?

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#38 VK63
February 03 2013, 12:26PM
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Personally I would be curious to know what Gagner could fetch in a trade at the moment.

Teams with high expectations and a brutal start might actually offer up something significant.

Worth exploring as a fact finding, market analysis mission at least.

I was soooo disheartened by that entire train wreck that was the Avs second goal yesterday. Whitney, hemmer and yak got hung with it optically but somewhere floating 80+ feet away was the centre. (and 94 fwiw)

Compounding that observation was the realization that it was a relatively slow developing play for the Avs, Whitney coughs it up and provides some resistance initially, hemmer digs in a hook and battles the puck carrier down the boards also impeding the plays timing. And yet........ bah never mind.

Frustrations abound when efforts are weak.

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#39 Rama Lama
February 03 2013, 12:35PM
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I would take just about anyone over Belenger and Horcoff. Yes they may be good in the face offs, but what about the rest of the game? Totally usless on offence and playiing with the puck.

Time for Anton Lander to shine. Also time for ST to finally do something, and earn his keep. You can only finish last, draft first, so many times and ST has shown no other skills as a GM.

I would take Jason Arnott as a fourth line centre any day........at least he is not a hobbit.

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#40 a lg dubl dubl
February 03 2013, 12:37PM
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VK63 wrote:

Personally I would be curious to know what Gagner could fetch in a trade at the moment.

Teams with high expectations and a brutal start might actually offer up something significant.

Worth exploring as a fact finding, market analysis mission at least.

I was soooo disheartened by that entire train wreck that was the Avs second goal yesterday. Whitney, hemmer and yak got hung with it optically but somewhere floating 80+ feet away was the centre. (and 94 fwiw)

Compounding that observation was the realization that it was a relatively slow developing play for the Avs, Whitney coughs it up and provides some resistance initially, hemmer digs in a hook and battles the puck carrier down the boards also impeding the plays timing. And yet........ bah never mind.

Frustrations abound when efforts are weak.

That goal would have never happend imo if Whitney would have skated backwards finding the puck in his feet and dumping it back in deep in the Avs zone, but instead he turns around after giving up on the puck to "get into posistion" for the on coming player.

Whitney has been doing that kinda thing all year so far...you said it best frustrations abound lol

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#41 JSR
February 03 2013, 01:05PM
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If Horcoff is out for a stretch, elevate Belanger to the third line, and bring up Van de Velde to center the fourth. Why bring in another contract, when the Oilers are probably not making the playoffs anyway? One more pick in the top 10 would be nice.

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#42 dougtheslug
February 03 2013, 01:08PM
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DSF wrote:

Oops...once again BTN has Eberle listed as a centre.

DSF, what is BTN?

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#43 Smokey
February 03 2013, 01:14PM
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I dont get to watch many Oil Baron's games, but can't Vandervelle fill in for Horcoff on the defensive end. He can win draws at least. I'd even concider Hall and Smytty in spot duty on the fourth line.

Gomez could of least filled in 3rd or 4th line duty. I don't think a NHL player is around the corner until teams are outta of it.

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#44 Old Retired Guy
February 03 2013, 01:23PM
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madjam wrote:

PENALTY IMBALANCE - due to youth and size ? Are the Oilers picked on by referees because of their youth and size ? Seems like they expect our youngsters to go down legally or otherwise , and therefore we rarely get questionable calls in our favor . If veteran ( fake or otherwise ) on opposition clubs almost always get favorable calls against us - especially youth and smaller players . We often look like pinballs out there with far too many calls being not being called against opposition . Size also gets the advantage of referees calls over smaller less physical players , and it should not be so .

We are slightly better than last year , but are seemingly far away from being a playoff team this season . Center is less than adequate to help make us a playoff team , despite Dubbie's heroics and J.Schultz valued help .

It's not a bias of the officials......It's part of the price you pay for having a small team that falls down alot....

(Full disclosure: Old Retired Guy is 6'5" 235lbs.)

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#45 nunyour
February 03 2013, 01:34PM
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Smyth seems to be capable of playing centre,and seems to be ok on the draw.

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#46 Old Retired Guy
February 03 2013, 01:40PM
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Romanus wrote:

Yes let's trade our only producing canter because you saw some advanced stats.

Like many of you here.....I too frequently change my mind on the value of a Gagner and wether or not to consider trading him.

What I think really matters (and hope for) is that the management team has enough savy to understand his value and where he slots into the roster over the long term....such that IF it is decided that he does not fill the neccessary role (i.e. need someone bigger, tougher, better at faces or whatever) they at least move him when his value is at or near a high.....and not when he's struggling. I think thats really all you can hope for....the rest is just emotion and opinion.

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#47 Rama Lama
February 03 2013, 01:43PM
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Shane wrote:

Really Rama?!? Your gonna pull the ol Horcoff and Belanger are worthless even after immediately reading the facts that say otherwise.. Give your head a shake!

I stand by my words.......I do not mind Horcoff as a fourth line centre. The only guy with less skill is Belenger.......I cannot understand who in the organization thought it would be a good idea to get him?? A total waste of a hockey player who does not belong in the NHL. There is NO team stupid enough to take this guy.

What contingency plan do the Oilers have for a solid third line centre, would be my question? ST is sadly the most incompetent GM in the entire league. All the bright lights we have on this team were as a result of finishing last, drafting first.........a monkey with a frontal labotomy could have accomplished the same.

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#48 Oilertown
February 03 2013, 01:47PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

DSF, what is BTN?

Behind the net site.

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#49 Old Retired Guy
February 03 2013, 01:51PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I would take just about anyone over Belenger and Horcoff. Yes they may be good in the face offs, but what about the rest of the game? Totally usless on offence and playiing with the puck.

Time for Anton Lander to shine. Also time for ST to finally do something, and earn his keep. You can only finish last, draft first, so many times and ST has shown no other skills as a GM.

I would take Jason Arnott as a fourth line centre any day........at least he is not a hobbit.

Pajama Lama, You seemed so angry last year that I had to ask you if "Tambellini was dating your mom or something"....

Are your telling me this year that Belanger and Horcoff are dating your sister????

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#50 Oiler Al
February 03 2013, 01:57PM
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" Read my lips", Arnott failed his medical with the Rangers. We already have a one legged defense man on the roster.We keep bringing in other teams "hurts". Dithers should have grabbed Gomez ,for short term and on the cheap. I know it might be prudent to wait till trade deadline,for a better catch, and to see where the Oilers are at that point, but picking up Gomez was a no risk deal.

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