GDB 09: ONE IN AND ONE OUT

Jason Gregor
February 04 2013 01:09PM

Shawn Horcoff returns to the lineup tonight, but Eric Belanger walked into Rexall Place this morning in a walking boot and he's been put on the injured list. Belanger has been infinitely better this season than he was last year, especially on the PK, and he, like Horcoff, will be missed.

It isn't great for the Oilers to have their veteran centres sitting out due to injuries, but it is another opportunity for Anton Lander to keep developing. As long as the injured list remains short the Oilers should be able to stay competitive.
The Oilers face the Canucks for the 2nd time in nine games, and after a come-from-behind win in their season opener the Oilers will try to avoid a three-game losing streak.

Edmonton wasn't very good in Colorado on Saturday, and they will need a much more energetic effort tonight.

Hall/RNH/Eberle
Yakupov/Gagner/Hemsky
Smyth/Horcoff/Petrell
Paajarvi/Lander/Hartikainen

Smid/Petry
N.Schultz/J.Schultz
Fistric/Potter

Dubnyk

Ryan Whitney was paired with Theo Peckham at the morning skate, and he will be take a seat in the pressbox. Whitney hasn't been great, but I think this is Ralph Krueger trying to send a message that anyone can be benched. That wasn't the case last year, and sometimes the only way a coach can get people's attention is by sitting a veteran in the pressbox. This is the first time in his career that Whitney has been a healthy scratch, and he was obviously disappointed. "I don't agree with it obviously, but I respect the decision and I will be better when I get back in," said Whitney.

I suspect this will be short-term for Whitney, who seems to be lacking confidence more than anything, because is overall game is better than Potter and Fistric. However, if you aren't playing up to your potential, Krueger is showing he won't be afraid to cut your icetime.

Krueger is also hoping that 91/57/56 can find the chemistry they had in OKC. Todd Nelson said they were his most consistent trio in both ends of the rink, and we'll see if they can bring that level of consistency to the NHL.

QUICK HITS

  • Lots of teams are interested in Whitney, and after being stripped of his "A" and now a healthy scratch, I could see a trade scenario unfolding at some point. The issue is the Oilers still don't have enough quality NHL depth to make that move, unless it is for another D-man. I can see situation where Whitney gets dealt, and then plays well somewhere else, and those fans who have been begging for his benching, will then complain he got dealt. Whitney is not nearly as bad as some are portraying him. Of course he can play better, but I'd rather let him play out of it than move him when his value is likely lower than it should be.
  • Belanger has an open cut on his foot so he will be out at least a week. He was put on IR so he is out at least 7 days.
  • Peckham has done a few three-a-day workouts as they Oilers try to get him back in game shape. Right now Krueger has mentioned, "We have 7 D-men" on numerous occasions, so it is clear Peckham isn't in the picture right now. OKC only plays on Friday and Saturday for the next three weeks, so if the Oilers send him down for a conditioning stint, it likely won't happen until later this week. They'd rather put him through extensive conditioning here.

  • It might just be a coincidence but in the two games Horcoff sat out the Oilers PP went 0-for-6. You might not like him on the PP, but he has a valuable role.
     
  • I wonder who will be the first person to write the article saying how Yakupov can't keep scoring like this because of his ridiculous 29.4%. I will name that person the ultimate "fun sponge."
     
  • Thomas Vanek has been in on 19 of the Sabres 27 goals. He's been incredible so far this season and I hope he keeps it up. I love offence.

LOOKING AHEAD

 

 GAME DAY PREDICTION: In previous years you'd expect the Oilers to lose this game, fall to .500 and extend their losing streak, but they will avoid the obvious and pick up an exciting 5-4 victory.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Gagner matches his career-high and extends his scoring streak to nine games. The Oilers PP gets back on track with two goals while the Sedins combine for five points.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: After picking up an assist in the first period, Yakupov delivers a crushing hit on Maxim Lapierre. Yakupov finishes the evening with two hits. After the game he says, " I'm surprised more people aren't mentioning that I have more hits, 9, than points, 7. I wonder if "Plums"* will point that out this Saturday. I thought he loves gritty players."

*If you didn't catch the Plums reference read NSOGDP from GDB: 08 below.

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR

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#1 Bi-Curious Gord
February 04 2013, 01:13PM
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Hey Diddle Diddle, we need some depth up the middle

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#2 The Hall Way
February 04 2013, 01:23PM
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Great Article again JG, and i don't want to be one of those guys who points stuff out, but you repeated the first couple paragraphs, .... Sorry. its funny in your prediction, you mentioned the Oilers of the last few years would lose a game like this, and i have to admit it was my first thought about tonight's game as well. Lets hope this years team is different

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GDP: Oil win 6-4. Goalie controversy in Van escalates.

OGDP: Horcoff gets a hat trick. All in the PP. One off his bum, one off his shoulder and a he'll get credit for one that Bieksa puts in his own net.

NSOGDP: The wife and I will be on the kissing cam. I'll give her a deep longing and loving look then turn to my beer and chug it.

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#4 EricOG
February 04 2013, 01:26PM
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One thing that I have noticed is that Hall, Nuge aand Eberle always go for pretty goals. In a lot of sorties, the play ends with them not even taking a shot on net. That is something they have to work on.

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#5 The Resistance
February 04 2013, 01:31PM
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Kinda felt like BFM in Groundhog Day half way through that article. Good read anyway. Oil lose 3-2

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#6 Truth
February 04 2013, 01:33PM
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If a team is willing to offer compensation for the Whitney of 2 years ago, trade him now! Otherwise the return would be minimal.

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#7 Spydyr
February 04 2013, 01:36PM
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My goat Whitney has been the worst defensman in pretty well every game this year. He deserves the press box. If as you say there are teams interested.Trade his ass before the rest of the league figures out he is washed.Good pass nothing else.

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#8 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
February 04 2013, 01:37PM
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Is Lander the slowest Oiler outside of Whitney?

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#9 Phixieus666
February 04 2013, 01:43PM
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Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy! wrote:

Is Lander the slowest Oiler outside of Whitney?

So Whitney is out, well this should be a really good test to see where exactly he stands in the lineup and whether he is expendable or not. Not too sure if Lander is actually as slow as people think or he just cheats towards the defensive side of the game.

I kinda felt that the team let Nail down last game. Seems to have a lot of fight in him. Loved his emotion at the end of the game. We need a ball of crazy on this team. Keep everyone on their toes.

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#10 Dan the Man
February 04 2013, 01:50PM
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"It might just be a coincidence but in the two games Horcoff sat out the Oilers PP went 0-for-6. You might not like him on the PP, but he has a valuable role."

The Oilers also lost both games, could be coincidence as well but the Oilers do miss Horcoff when he's not in the line up.

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#11 OilClog
February 04 2013, 01:52PM
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Whitney seems like he's lost more then his ankles or a step. Or maybe losing that step shows his lack in ability to read the defensive play. He can pass the puck no question, unfortunately for Whitney it doesn't offset the brutal one on one beatings he takes. With an expiring contract you would have to figure the Oilers would need to include other assets to get anything of value in return. Could we pry a bottom six forward or a regular 3-4defenseman with a Whitney, Omark, pick combo?

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#12 Zamboni Driver
February 04 2013, 02:00PM
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FINALLY a veteran takes a seat. Been a LONG LONG time since a coach had the 'nads to do that.

This is sacrilege I know but...

How long before 94 takes a seat in popcorn row?

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#13 A-Mc
February 04 2013, 02:06PM
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Good call on Whitney. He's a good player but he isn't playing well; Krueger needed to do something to send a message.

GDP: Oiler's lose tonight, 5-2, but Nuge finally gets one in.

OGDP: Hall will be skating circles around people tonight as he tries to set the tone for the rest of his team. His team will be reluctant to follow his lead.

NSOGDP: Paajarvi-Lander-Harti will look great and will actually come in 2nd for most scoring chances as a line for the Oilers despite having lower ice time vs lines 1-2. Potentially, the 2nd goal is theirs. Dare i say Paajarvi's?

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#14 Phixieus666
February 04 2013, 02:10PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

"It might just be a coincidence but in the two games Horcoff sat out the Oilers PP went 0-for-6. You might not like him on the PP, but he has a valuable role."

The Oilers also lost both games, could be coincidence as well but the Oilers do miss Horcoff when he's not in the line up.

He wins draws, retrieves pucks, can maintain possession, and creates traffic in front. All things that are needed on a power play that skill players generally don't bring. No Coincidence.

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#15 Will
February 04 2013, 02:13PM
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This will be another game where the win comes on the PP. Luongo has been deadly this year -- surprising no one -- but Vancouver still doesn't have a second line. As good as Kassian has been, I think our second is able to eat there's for breakfast.

Dubnyk will again have to be stellar tonight. And the Nordic line will be considered a success in my book if they keep a positive puck possession number, are not responsible for any goals against, and draw a penalty or two.

Drive to the net boys and lets take another one from Van tonight.

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#16 Mikey
February 04 2013, 02:14PM
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I wish we could have traded for Rupp. Sad face.

Game prediction:

If the oilers win, the world is great, the Nuge is sick, Hall is a beast, Dubnyk is a superstar.

If the oilers lose, we should have drafted Seguin, Nuge is too small, Horcoff needs to go, we need a proven number one goalie. The team is too small.

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#17 Truth
February 04 2013, 02:14PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

"It might just be a coincidence but in the two games Horcoff sat out the Oilers PP went 0-for-6. You might not like him on the PP, but he has a valuable role."

The Oilers also lost both games, could be coincidence as well but the Oilers do miss Horcoff when he's not in the line up.

Could be true.

Or, could be that I was drinking Bud instead of Kokanee the last two games. Switched back, so we should be good.

The Oilers played pretty good vs. the Sharks considering how hot they've been lately. We all know a shootout could go either way and is not indicative of who is a better team.

The game vs. Colorado the Oilers definitely didn't show up and Colorado did, especially Duchesne. It always seems like the Oilers forget to show up to the afternoon games.

I think tonight's game will be a good one. The Oilers should be motivated to play, and the Canucks won't be happy about the results of the last game.

Canucks win 4-2 with an empty netter.

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#18 Mac962
February 04 2013, 02:27PM
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Canucks are too veteran savy and are picking up steam. Oilers suffer first home game after road trip blahs and lay a stinker, 5-1 nucks and our biggest losing streak of the season picks up steam.

F--k - i hope i am wrong. Pins and needles every game in this short season.

All out effort for 60 minutes needed tonight boys.. no shifts off. SPEED SPEED SPEED.

GO OIL !

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#19 book¡e
February 04 2013, 02:30PM
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I wonder who will be the first person to write the article saying how Yakupov can't keep scoring like this because of his ridiculous 29.4%. I will name that person the ultimate "fun sponge."

Let me be the first to say this is unsustainable!!! There is no way Yakupov continues to average only 2 shots per game. His shots per game average is certainly going to trend upwards to 3 or 4 shots per game and with a 30% shooting percentage, that means he is going to score more than a goal per game!!! Projected out to an 82 game season, that's trending to break Gretzky's 92 goal record! Awesome!!!

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#20 Time Travelling Sean
February 04 2013, 02:36PM
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2 years ago this is a game we would lose. Let's see if we're over the hump and ready to be taken seriously.

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#21 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 02:38PM
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Truth wrote:

If a team is willing to offer compensation for the Whitney of 2 years ago, trade him now! Otherwise the return would be minimal.

Exactly. If you get the right offer/deal take it. If not, he's a servicable 5-6 who may still have upside from where he's at now.

Oilers 3 Canucks 1

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#22 Phixieus666
February 04 2013, 02:39PM
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@Time Travelling Sean

I think the team is going to come out with all kinds of energy after the Whitney benching. But still think it will be a loss in the shootout. Lou will stand tall this time around.

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#23 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 02:41PM
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EricOG wrote:

One thing that I have noticed is that Hall, Nuge aand Eberle always go for pretty goals. In a lot of sorties, the play ends with them not even taking a shot on net. That is something they have to work on.

Thats their skill set at the age they're at. Which makes you wonder if Krueger will be forced to seperate them at some point (adding a netfront presence to the line), or if he is going to stick to his guns through thick and thin?

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#24 ubermiguel
February 04 2013, 02:45PM
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"Plums"? Old-man Cherry is more like "Prunes" now.

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#25 Concur
February 04 2013, 02:49PM
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Two things one specific one general.

I watched the Oil Change episode, and the part that Krueger had to tell the trio of OKC Barons that they were being sent back stands out to me. He told them that they were up there to get a feel of how the Oiler system works for when they get called up. He didn't say it, but he insinuated that they would be the first call ups in case of injury or otherwise. I wonder what Vande Velde is feelin after seeing Lander called up...

The other thing I want to mention is about shooting percentages and how they are not a real gauge of a player. Shooting percentages are based on how many shots a player has on net and how many of those shots go in. They do not count how many time a player actually shoots. This statistic does not count shots that miss the net or are blocked. but what they do count is tip-ins which are not actual shots. It is not a statistic I look at all to gauge a player.

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#26 Phixieus666
February 04 2013, 02:56PM
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@Concur

I think that Lander got the call up because he doesn't have to clear waivers and I believe CVV would have to clear to go back down. If a trade happens then I could see CVV come up as long as they are looking at it as a permanent move for the remainder of the season

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#27 Oiler Al
February 04 2013, 02:58PM
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I hope Fistric is up for rocking Kassians world tonight. There's no one else in the line up to take care of business.

The Canucks will come out banging, the OIl will turtle and the game is over.

If there are hitters on this team they are too polite, guys like SMid, Petrel, and Hartikien.

Not sure when Dithers Tambilini will do something about this. Eager is always one poke to the chin away from IR, and Hordichuck is a fraud when it comes to taking care of business.

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#28 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 03:00PM
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OilClog wrote:

Whitney seems like he's lost more then his ankles or a step. Or maybe losing that step shows his lack in ability to read the defensive play. He can pass the puck no question, unfortunately for Whitney it doesn't offset the brutal one on one beatings he takes. With an expiring contract you would have to figure the Oilers would need to include other assets to get anything of value in return. Could we pry a bottom six forward or a regular 3-4defenseman with a Whitney, Omark, pick combo?

Whitney and Omark to Detroit.

Detroit need a D man like (the old) Whitney and the Zetterberg, Brunner, Omark line where lighting it up in the Top Swiss Leaque during the lockout (playing for EV Zug).

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#29 Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach
February 04 2013, 03:06PM
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While I agree Whitney isn't as bad as people make it out to be and that we will probably realize that what we have is worse once he's gone, is it really that bad of an idea to trade him?

Is Whitney going to be back next year? If not is it not worth it to get something before he ends up on the IR? At the same time you can save your owner some cash for the time being.

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#30 Archaeologuy
February 04 2013, 03:07PM
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Tough team to try and get back rolling against. Looking forward to seeing Vancouver Canucks fall over at the lightest breeze.

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#31 Smokey
February 04 2013, 03:11PM
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I think Whitney will find his legs and get his game back soon. I hate seeing a guy who said, hey I wanna play here get benched or moved. Especially considering how awful the team has been. He has been first class with the media and fans and has been a leader. However, it may be a good thing for both him and us.

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#32 Jefff
February 04 2013, 03:11PM
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Columbus has 3 first round picks in the 2013 draft.

Edmonton has 2 second round picks in the 2013 draft

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#34 The Soup Fascist
February 04 2013, 03:19PM
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Can we PLEASE have a moratorium on any trade involving Linus Omark? You are better off including Linus Van Pelt in a trade - because they have exactly the same amount of value.

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#35 Walter Sobchak
February 04 2013, 03:26PM
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GDP - Oiler's keep it close for the first period, then the Canucks break it open Oilers lose 5-1

OR the Oilers play solid for three periods but lose 3-1.

RNH gets the goal.

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#36 Walter Sobchak
February 04 2013, 03:27PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Can we PLEASE have a moratorium on any trade involving Linus Omark? You are better off including Linus Van Pelt in a trade - because they have exactly the same amount of value.

Noooooooooooo! ~ he has been lighting it up in the Swis league though ~

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#37 Will
February 04 2013, 03:27PM
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These inter division games are killing me. God forbid we play Nashville, or Columbus, or even Chicago. Hell, I'd even take Detroit this year with the way they've been playing.

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#38 bdiddy18
February 04 2013, 03:42PM
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Sure Whitney has played sub-par but can't believe how Oiler Fans dump on players returning from major surgery. Hemsky last year which was clearly a rehab year - he is flying and back to his normal self this year.

and now Whitney - who basically has had reconstructive surgery on not one but both feet. An issue that is worse than what forced Petr Forsberg to retire.

so it is an absolute that it will it take time for him to return to form. But I'd stop there, he is not junk, a pylon, (insert insults used for horcoff here)

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#39 westcoastoil
February 04 2013, 03:50PM
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Ballsy move by Ralph to sit him against Vanc. Whether it works or not, I like the move and hopefully a view from the box will help Whitney see the ice a little better

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#40 John Chambers
February 04 2013, 03:52PM
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Trade Whitney for a forward with size.

Trade Hemsky for a defenseman.

Problem solved.

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#41 Eastern Oil
February 04 2013, 03:59PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Can we PLEASE have a moratorium on any trade involving Linus Omark? You are better off including Linus Van Pelt in a trade - because they have exactly the same amount of value.

Who is this Linus Van Pelt that you are referring to? Can he take draws? Play on the pk?

Never mind, I already don't like him because I can't fight him at hockeyfights.com, he's obviously too soft.

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#42 laughing pug
February 04 2013, 04:02PM
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I am still really let down by Teddy Peckman showing up to camp with C-cups. The season is already almost 1/5 over, and look where his lack of discipline has him. Lucky dude to be getting a second (or third) chance at life like this. Once the Oil get him in shape, I sure as hell hope he decides to commit himself to staying at his physical best.

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#43 Old Retired Guy
February 04 2013, 04:02PM
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bdiddy18 wrote:

Sure Whitney has played sub-par but can't believe how Oiler Fans dump on players returning from major surgery. Hemsky last year which was clearly a rehab year - he is flying and back to his normal self this year.

and now Whitney - who basically has had reconstructive surgery on not one but both feet. An issue that is worse than what forced Petr Forsberg to retire.

so it is an absolute that it will it take time for him to return to form. But I'd stop there, he is not junk, a pylon, (insert insults used for horcoff here)

Agree with you on Hemsky. I've always been a big supporter on several fronts: For several years he was the best player on our team; Contrary to popular opinion outside of Edmonton, he is not a soft player..never was (injury prone yes..but not soft); He earned his 2 year 5 mil per contract and is still a valuable asset. You don't move him unless you get equal value for the top six.

As for Whitney, I don't get the sense that most Oilers fans (or at least those who post here) are saying that he is worthless....he is playing in a worthless fashion...but he has value. With a few exceptions, it sounds to me like people say trade him if you get "reasonable" value. (which in itself seems reasonable since hes got two broken feet). However, I don't think many people are suggesting that we give him the "bums rush" out of town.

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#44 106 and 106
February 04 2013, 04:13PM
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Whatever happened to Kruger liking the "idea of two's" instead of three's and inserting Horc/Smyth/Jones to rotate through the duet. Chemistry issue?

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#45 Oilersman
February 04 2013, 04:39PM
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Just hoping we can get to that place where we start winning games by 2-3 and really finish up at the top and not be the squeaker. Also, hoping my damn slow arse dial-up Internet beat everyone to the fist punch.

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#46 Cletus Spuckler
February 04 2013, 04:48PM
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The Resistance wrote:

Kinda felt like BFM in Groundhog Day half way through that article. Good read anyway. Oil lose 3-2

Felt the same way. Have to disagree with your prediction going with the Oil 4-2

KCCO

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#47 Romulus' Apotheosis
February 04 2013, 04:57PM
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106 and 106 wrote:

Whatever happened to Kruger liking the "idea of two's" instead of three's and inserting Horc/Smyth/Jones to rotate through the duet. Chemistry issue?

He hasn't separated the pairs he identified in the Summer yet: 93-14 and 89-83

I can't recall but I think he had 10-94 as a pair too...

at any rate, there is no way 10 moves up into either of those other lines... he's not good enough and we need all the damn pivots playing pivot we can get!

also... 28 is still not terribly close.

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#48 OilClog
February 04 2013, 05:17PM
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@bdiddy18

So you're saying.. an issue that was worse then what made Forsberg retire is ok to wallow away on our bottom pairing giving away goals. We just sit back and show patience in the middle of the season and hope he returns to form and stops costing us points in the standings..

he can't turn, pivot, stride, push, defend.. He was a very good hockey player, could be again.. but it's not in the next while. Do you see the Oilers resigning him? I don't. So trade him in a very deep draft year to a western contender that we may battle in the second season.. Then he can start winning games for us again.. blarg.

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#49 Shane
February 04 2013, 05:48PM
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Anybody think we can just resign Whitney. Maybe at half of what he's making? Seems like he would be good value at 2-2.5m

Just a thought.

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#50 EHH Team
February 04 2013, 05:53PM
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Eastern Oil wrote:

Who is this Linus Van Pelt that you are referring to? Can he take draws? Play on the pk?

Never mind, I already don't like him because I can't fight him at hockeyfights.com, he's obviously too soft.

But his sister, Lucy is tough and will take care of business in the parking lot after the game.

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