THAT'S EMBARRASSING

Robin Brownlee
March 03 2013 10:13PM

Fans of the Edmonton Oilers have been kicked in the junk so often the past six seasons there's barely any leather left on that damn shoe, and they took yet another pop in the pills watching their team mail it in with a 4-2 loss to the Minnesota Wild at the Xcel Energy Center Sunday.

Even the most devout Edmonton booster knows the score flattered the Oilers, who needed a fluke goal by Sam Gagner just to keep things mildly interesting in a game in which Ralph Krueger's team didn't manage a single shot on goal in the second period. Not one. Zippo. Nada.

This feeble effort, one devoid of emotion and physical engagement with the Wild, was bad enough to get the attention of Krueger, who chewed out his team on the bench during a called time out. Krueger was clearly pissed off. Not nearly as much, I'm guessing, as fans weary of waiting for this team to start delivering on some of the promises management has been making.

Fans made that abundantly clear in the aftermath.

WHAT YOU SAID . . .

Here's a sampling of the comments directed my way on Twitter in the wake of a loss that dropped the Oilers to 8-9-4 on the season with five games left on a road trip that looks like it will end any hopes of a playoff push.

Mitch Dul‏@mitchdul @Robin_Brownlee at what point does management finally get shown the door...when Gretzky left the coyotes the team went forward.

Jeff Hendrick‏@jeffhendrick @Robin_Brownlee this #oilers club has more holes than Swiss cheese, and a terrible GM...4th straight top three pick awaits

Wendy Dwernychuk‏@WendyDwernychuk @Robin_Brownlee embarrassed once again

Dave Anderson‏@RantnRoller @Robin_Brownlee - players coach is fine. Being supportive is fine too. Some Oilers need to be called out after tonight's debacle

Wade Westworth‏@rumdum @Robin_Brownlee the Oilers were a much better team when the lockout was on! Need some heart. A little pride.

NOT EVEN CLOSE

I thought the Oilers might get nine of a possible 18 points from this trip, a total that would most certainly see them fall marginally farther out of a playoff spot in the Western Conference. They need six points from the last five games just to reach that. Some fans, bolstered by a loser point in Chicago and a rare win in Dallas to open the trip, were talking 12 or 13 points. Really.

That aside, what fans saw in the final period against the St. Louis Blues and for all three periods against the Wild was an Oiler team that took the easy way out at every opportunity. A team that didn’t physically or mentally compete or engage. A team that too often didn't bust its collective backside in an effort to get the job done. A team that didn’t play smart or with gusto.

After six years out of the playoffs choking back heaping helpings of rebuild pie, the very least fans deserve is an honest effort from the players on the ice. If the team isn't good enough – and it's becoming clear it's not – then that falls to GM Steve Tambellini and president of hockey operations Kevin Lowe.

Until then -- holes in the roster and limitations be damned -- fans have a right to expect that their team compete on every shift and show up for battles, even if they don't win them rather than turning the other cheek. Right now, all fans are getting is what looks like a collective shrug of the shoulders.

Not good enough. Not even close.

Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

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#1 Walter Sobchak
March 04 2013, 04:55AM
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It took the Nordiques 8 years and two of the most lopsided trades in the history of the NHL to become a premier power house in the NHL.

Today’s NHL doesn’t permit trades of that caliber any longer, so drafting and building your players becomes paramount.

You can’t trade tomorrow’s future for today’s playoffs, it’s been done, and it no longer works. In fact it’s proven not to work.

The Oilers only have two good trading options. Gagner & Hemsky.

This team will have growing pains for another two years, that’s the long and short of it.

It’s the price of a complete rebuild.

Panic, off handed trades and ridicules signings is what kills a rebuild

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#3 Nameless Ned
March 03 2013, 10:21PM
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Islanders 2.0 might be a complement at this point

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#4 Devolution
March 03 2013, 10:19PM
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I left Edmonton in 1986 and now live 11 time zones away, meaning I have to get up at 5 am to watch many games. I have been a true fan for a long time. After the St. Louis game I didn't bother setting my alarm for this one. They are a truly terrible team that doesn't care if they win or lose.

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#5 DimebagDave
March 03 2013, 10:22PM
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No worries because Rexall will be full to capacity the first game back. We are suckers.

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#6 Sox and Oil
March 03 2013, 10:26PM
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It's amazing the difference Taylor Hall brings to the line up. He is the offence.

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#7 Jodes
March 03 2013, 10:37PM
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Another brilliant effort by the Oil yet again tonight. Can someone honestly tell me if Ralph "SwissMiss" Krueger has already lost the room? Are the egos on the Oil that big already they don't have to listen to reason?

Is there something in the dressing room that's started another division amongst the team?

Whatever it is.. the cancer needs to be operated on.. and fast, or this will be a perpetual rebuild ala the Islanders/Florida/Thrashers/Blue Jackets..

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#8 VK63
March 03 2013, 10:42PM
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Awesome Robin!!!! The corporate apologists can hack away at the fan base for calling out Dubnyk but thats their shtick. Deflection.

Last time ill mention it as I have worn out my welcome on Gregors show and on here. But that entire "skilled" label is a complete joke.

Skilled players fill the other teams net but bleed chances against and thus may or may not be worth the risk or trustworthy enough to put on the ice.

These "skilled" players pass up shots from position prime every game. The snipers don't shoot and the level of "pussy" they display in physical battles is an argument for contraction disguised in a six million dollar contract.

Other than that. They are quite amusing when they chirp each other on twitter. Good thing that counts for something. Just ask luongo.

Katz has a great gig here. Peddling the future while providing complete unadulterated suck in the interim. I guess the fanbase is to believe they are unrelated.

Good luck with that Katz. Good luck with that indeed.....

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#9 Hayek
March 03 2013, 11:02PM
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You people are all overreacting, and are so disappointed after losses. The thing is, in betting markets, Oilers will be an underdog in every single game this road trip. Your expectations of getting 9 of 18 points was just hilarious. You have unreasonable expectations, then get angry when the results don't meet your inflated expectations.

The thing that gets me angry, is all the change demanded, and short term moves that will hurt the team long term.

Let's get through this season, finish around 25th in the league, get a good draft pick, then attempt to improve through signing UFAs in the off season.

Patience people! The team may not even make the playoffs next year. We really start to compete 2 years from now.

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#10 The Oilers Shot Clock
March 03 2013, 11:37PM
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I don't get an electric bill, I get a rebate. It just goes back into the grid. I'm going halfers with the goal light on a time share in Mexico with all the money we've saved this year.

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#11 Serious Gord
March 03 2013, 11:44PM
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Jay wrote:

It's not embarrassing, it's just the norm. This team sucks and were used to it

And the players are used to it too.

When we (and robin) criticize the effort the team puts in in A game we are like the audience listening to the Salvation Army band playing on the titantic as it tips ever further down in the bow - critizing the French horn player's lack of tune.

My guess is the team knew it was done within the first few shifts of the first period. Minnesota set the style of play and, like me trying to deal with a pat cash serve, they had no return volley. They, and I, simply aren't equipped to do so.

And thus they gave up trying. Screaming at them to try - to try and lose a little less humiliatingly - is a tactic that yields swiftly diminishing returns.

They (and we) have lost hope.

Change - major change - change that finally delivers concrete solutions to what we have known to be this team's weaknesses for more than five years now - a hockey generations worth of time - is the only way to begin to regain sim whole about the future - in the short medium and long term.

As of this typing tambellini has been an unmitigated disaster - aided and abetted by fawner Katz and his Baghdad bob Kevin Lowe. I have no faith in his ability to make a swift yet wise move. Hell, they have had three years and haven't done it, what would logically lead one to expect that they can do it in the space of the next few weeks?

At this point in time they are squandering three - count'em three years worth of number ones potential - possibly doing serious damage to their careers - losing can be habit forming.

As oilers fans we are like babies trapped in a trailer park well.

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#12 Sailge
March 03 2013, 11:50PM
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Hayek wrote:

I'm not talking about the past. Of course I am disappointed in the past.

We are in the middle stage of a rebuild. We finished 29th last year, and we are improving. Teams don't go from 29th, to making the playoffs the next year.

All I'm saying, is if you are an optimist, and think we will make the playoffs this year, you are extremely unrealistic, and will be angry without reason.

We had a 66% chance of losing vs the Wild today according to effecient sportsbook lines. So we lose, and people here are panicking, wanting the coaches' head, wanting trades. We were expected to lose, and we lost. Don't know how you can be a realist and get mad when expected outcomes occur.

Montreal was 28th last year and are now first in the east.

And you say it can't be done?

This is team is beyond embarrassing. A couple years in a row out of the playoffs is a joke let alone what our streak is at now. It doesn't have to take this long. 10 years if fine with you? Wow

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#13 Dave
March 04 2013, 12:17AM
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Am the only one who thinks that when you build a good team you need to start with a good goalie? The Oilers would not have gotten far in 2006 without Rollie.

I realize that goaltending is just one of our problems but when a good goalie becomes available I hope they make the move.

Lastly Eberle is no longer an untouchable in my eyes. You have to give up something to get something.

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#14 Crispy
March 04 2013, 03:19AM
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@DSF

BTW Florida is one of the few teams worse than the Oilers this season. I guess their GM must be worse than Tambellini right?

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#15 Hug The Post
March 04 2013, 08:27AM
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The Oilers long ago lost me; I used to be just one of the sheep; I had season tickets, bought all of the merch and cheered cheered cheered them on. But when the rot started showing in 2007, I let go. I don't go to games, I don't watch games. I read about them on this fine website, moreso because of the writers and comments. It's liberating to realize that the guys on the ice are merely entertainers (and for the past 6 years bad ones at that).

I'm lucky enough to have seen this team in their '80's hey day and to be old enough to remember it. I really feel sorry for the entire generation of fan who has only known the oilers to the be proverbial guy at the beach getting sand kicked in his face.

I really commend all of you who invest emotionally in them, as I am sure a piece of you dies every time last night happens again and again, regardless of the pedigree of draft pick we have in the lineup. And, I thank the writers and bloggers who follow the team and write their pieces on them----it must take years off your lives watching a team that in one word can be described as 'chaotic'.

Let's all hope one day we can be proud of them again.

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#16 dougtheslug
March 04 2013, 08:36AM
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DSF wrote:

Expected outcomes when you draft in the top ten for 6 years in a row should be a playoff spot.

BTW, Florida went from last to the playoffs last season.

BTW the Oilers are NOT improving.

Over an 82 game season, they are on pace to score 200 goals.

Last season they scored 212.

Over an 82 game season, they are on pace to have a goal differential of -28.

Last season their goal differential was -27.

I don't know what to make of this DSF. Because Florida made the playoffs last year, exited in the first round, and are a lottery team again this year. Which, I think, makes a case that signing a bunch of middling free agents and shuffling the deck chairs, getting career seasons out of a few guys, and hoping for the best, is not necessarily the way to build a consistent playoff team either.

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#17 RexLibris
March 04 2013, 08:42AM
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Never thought I'd say this, but I almost miss the days of the Ron Low teams. I may be romanticizing here, but it feels like those rosters never took a game off.

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#18 bloodsweatandoil
March 04 2013, 09:38AM
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The Edmonton Dejavu's......Same as last year, same as the year before, same as the year before that.. Don't worry fans! Be patient says the management and a few posters on this board who always say the same thing game in and game out and shove it down our throats when the Oilers finally win one game out of 5, I say eat my shorts and wake the hell up!

Is it the players fault over the last few years that they finished last in the league to garner the first draft pick each year?

Is it the players fault that for some of them, the minute they get drafted they are now bonafida NHL roster players and for some reason they do not need a season or two to develop in the AHL?

Is it the players fault that some of them were brought in to play roles and positions that they are not capable of?

Is it the players fault that the majority of all them are really young, small and are finesse that cannot play their role because they are constantly looking over their shoulders, have no room to play and when one gets squashed,another small one moves up without any retribution to the opposition?

I have noticed when it is the players fault, the coach definately puts down the hammer, but perhaps the coach needs the hammer!

With this kind of a roster, no coach can properly guide this team, these players are going to be guided to other teams and be able to finally excell to their full capabilities on properly built rosters, professionally mastered systems that are managed by men who know what the hell they are doing!

Management sure loves to produce Oilchange and plug it on the tube, please, who is fooling who here? Change the name to "Bend over and bite the pillow" Its kind of fitting to the players and the fans.

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#19 Spydyr
March 04 2013, 10:02AM
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Been saying this for a while now. Either the management of the team wants to fail and miss the playoffs one more year (Last piece of the puzzle for the love of all things Oil). Too many wrong things haven't been fixed. Or management is incompetent. If we can see it from our seats or sofas. They must .Right, Right?

The team is not ready for a Cup run (obviously) so fail one more year jettison the junk. And there is lots of junk to get rid of. Build a tougher stronger team in the off season trade one of the kids .You need to give up something to get something.

Which kid?

I'm going with Ebs. Sorry Wayne. He is a purely offensive player with a knack for scoring big goals. Unfourunatly the last hit he made was in the Treasury branch commercial. Not overtly strong on defense and a small player. Redundant on this team. No one fears the Oilers. No one.

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#20 Old Retired Guy
March 04 2013, 10:22AM
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I'm sensing some displeasure with the teams performance........are you sure its not just tax pain???

Anyhow,

Besides the obvious need for size and grit some of the things that the Oilers REALLY need right now seem to be happening......

Hemsky and Gagner are at, or close to, the top of thier game....and as a result, their trade value is increasing exactly when we need it to.

Like some kind of miracle, Whitney actally looked Whitneish over the past 2 games...a few more games/weeks like this could make him valuable come April 3rd.

And....Magnus is looking ALOT bigger out there..He may be turning the corner...after all, he is tall enough and could potenially add 10 or 20 lbs of muscle over the next year or two...

NOW.....Lets just hope/pray that the management team has the COURAGE to trade one or more of Hemsky, Gagner, Whitney while/when they have VALUE....TIMING IS EVERYTHING !!!

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#21 lolhockey
March 04 2013, 10:40AM
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The play Eberle made in the final two minutes of the game pretty much sums up some of my frustrations this year.

2 mins remaining, goalie pulled and a chance to make a simple play by putting the puck on net with a bunch of players standing on the crease.

What does he do instead? A no look, behind the back pass to an unsuspecting Yakupov in which the puck ultimately slides across the blue line into the neutral zone.

A lot has been said about the supposed skill and intelligence of our top six. I don’t doubt the skill part, but I’m really starting to question the latter. IIRC, this was something Pat Quinn alluded to. Maybe he was onto something?

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#22 Jay
March 03 2013, 10:17PM
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It's not embarrassing, it's just the norm. This team sucks and were used to it

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#23 blue31
March 03 2013, 10:26PM
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Man, are people pi55ed off tonight. And rightfully so.

This is the crapshow that happens when rushing players in the league too soon, a misguided league mandate for parity, and guaranteed players salaries all collide in the same intersection.

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#24 DrunkGuyTy
March 03 2013, 10:33PM
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Ugh! Ly!

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#25 Oiler Al
March 03 2013, 10:40PM
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Its about time Krueger called these guys out! Unfortunately there is not the required dept on the farm that could be lifted in to the big team and start sitting these guys. In other words the franchise is in a mess.

Lowes dream of building a team templated on the Oilers 80's teams , is quickly become a nightmare, and all along hiding behind a 5-7 year rebuild.

This team is not improving,, its going downhill by game.

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#26 VK63
March 03 2013, 10:42PM
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Awesome Robin!!!! The corporate apologists can hack away at the fan base for calling out Dubnyk but thats their shtick. Deflection.

Last time ill mention it as I have worn out my welcome on Gregors show and on here. But that entire "skilled" label is a complete joke.

Skilled players fill the other teams net but bleed chances against and thus may or may not be worth the risk or trustworthy enough to put on the ice.

These "skilled" players pass up shots from position prime every game. The snipers don't shoot and the level of "pussy" they display in physical battles is an argument for contraction disguised in a six million dollar contract.

Other than that. They are quite amusing when they chirp each other on twitter. Good thing that counts for something. Just ask luongo.

Katz has a great gig here. Peddling the future while providing complete unadulterated suck in the interim. I guess the fanbase is to believe they are unrelated.

Good luck with that Katz. Good luck with that indeed.....

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#27 dougtheslug
March 03 2013, 10:42PM
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Unfortunately, RB, I think you are wrong. I think they were trying. Which is why they were overcommitting, chasing the puck, over thinking, resorting to individual plays, etc. etc. They were trying. They just aren't very good. And I've watched enough not very good hockey teams over the past few years to know one when I see one.

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#28 merfer
March 03 2013, 10:44PM
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It's de ja vu all over again. When will the management of this team stop thinking we can play like the Detroit and realize our young players will never reach their full potential while constantly looking over their shoulders. Did you see what happen in Boston tonight when someone hit Seguin. Chara flies in and totally fills in the Montreal player. I think if someone hit Hall everyone on this team would just look down and kinda shuffle their skates a little. I'm getting sick of Tambellini's lack of effort. He is just so scared to make a bad trade that he won't make any moves. Come on Tambellini, do something before one of these players get hurt. Besides, I'm getting sick of watching this wimp style of hockey. The odd scrap at least made the game worth watching. I knew I should have watched "the Good Wife" tonight.

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#29 Dave "Killer" Carlson
March 03 2013, 10:49PM
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I paid more attention to the Brier tonight than the Oilers game. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of curling...but it is curling. It should never have more action than an NHL game.

Every day I lose a little more patience for Tambo's "plan".

(There is a plan, right?)

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#30 Gerald R. Ford
March 03 2013, 10:54PM
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Boy, I just can't wait to see the craptastic level of hockey we'll be subject to if the league has to fill TWO expansion rosters in the near future. Imagine this team's last five years, then imagine having to replace whatever unprotected players you lose with guys currently not good enough to play in the NHL. Very exciting, no doubt. It'll put people to sleep faster than watching 'Solaris' after a big bucket of fried chicken.

Anyway, if this organization gets another lottery pick, fire everyone but The Magnificent Bastard and Joey Moss. Yuck.

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#31 VK63
March 03 2013, 10:58PM
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@Dave "Killer" Carlson

at least curling has situations that "demand" collisions. So does hockey... the wimps that play on the Oilers just see it differently.

With predictable results.

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#32 Jimmer
March 03 2013, 11:01PM
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@Brownlee

How long until this management team drops the notion of playing "Oiler Hockey" which is boarderline 1980's Harlem Globetrotter crap and trade some real assets (Hemmer, Gagner, and even Yakupov) so that we can have a second line that has players that can play an ugly "north-south" game and bust through a trapping team line Minny?

Nathan Horton, Corey Perry, David Backes, Bobby Ryan, are guys we need...

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#33 Sanaa Montana
March 03 2013, 11:01PM
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Why a rookie coach to coach youth? An established veteran coach would have made better sense. Unless, of course, Krueger was set up to fail. Maybe the Oilganization wants to lose for one more year.

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#34 DSF
March 03 2013, 11:04PM
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Hayek wrote:

You people are all overreacting, and are so disappointed after losses. The thing is, in betting markets, Oilers will be an underdog in every single game this road trip. Your expectations of getting 9 of 18 points was just hilarious. You have unreasonable expectations, then get angry when the results don't meet your inflated expectations.

The thing that gets me angry, is all the change demanded, and short term moves that will hurt the team long term.

Let's get through this season, finish around 25th in the league, get a good draft pick, then attempt to improve through signing UFAs in the off season.

Patience people! The team may not even make the playoffs next year. We really start to compete 2 years from now.

LOL.

10 years out of the playoffs.

A chimp could do better.

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#35 Devolution
March 03 2013, 11:13PM
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Sanaa Montana wrote:

Why a rookie coach to coach youth? An established veteran coach would have made better sense. Unless, of course, Krueger was set up to fail. Maybe the Oilganization wants to lose for one more year.

You mean an established veteran coach like Pat Quinn? This team has bigger problems than the coach, it starts higher than that.

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#36 Hayek
March 03 2013, 11:13PM
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DSF wrote:

LOL.

10 years out of the playoffs.

A chimp could do better.

I'm not talking about the past. Of course I am disappointed in the past.

We are in the middle stage of a rebuild. We finished 29th last year, and we are improving. Teams don't go from 29th, to making the playoffs the next year.

All I'm saying, is if you are an optimist, and think we will make the playoffs this year, you are extremely unrealistic, and will be angry without reason.

We had a 66% chance of losing vs the Wild today according to effecient sportsbook lines. So we lose, and people here are panicking, wanting the coaches' head, wanting trades. We were expected to lose, and we lost. Don't know how you can be a realist and get mad when expected outcomes occur.

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#37 gcw_rocks
March 03 2013, 11:17PM
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If Lowe, MacT and Tambo survive another lottery pick season, I will lose all faith in this franchise.

Lowe has made it clear that he approves all of Tambo's moves or non-moves, so I don't see how you can fire Tambo and keep Lowe. And if you toss Tambo and Lowe, I am not sure why you would keep Mactavish.

It's clear a new voice and new vision is required. One NOT tied to the current regime.

Oh yeah, and a coach that understands line matching.

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#38 Smokey
March 03 2013, 11:20PM
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Hayek wrote:

You people are all overreacting, and are so disappointed after losses. The thing is, in betting markets, Oilers will be an underdog in every single game this road trip. Your expectations of getting 9 of 18 points was just hilarious. You have unreasonable expectations, then get angry when the results don't meet your inflated expectations.

The thing that gets me angry, is all the change demanded, and short term moves that will hurt the team long term.

Let's get through this season, finish around 25th in the league, get a good draft pick, then attempt to improve through signing UFAs in the off season.

Patience people! The team may not even make the playoffs next year. We really start to compete 2 years from now.

Last two years we sat through dreadful games, but we at least saw effort. Change is needed top down, and people who think that adding a piece here or there of high end talent when the culture of loosing is rampant in the dressing room need to stop drinking koolaid and start the coffee pot and sober up. Do we need six more years of rebuild. This management must of thought it was making the playoffs cause they threw huge dough at their supposed "nucleus in the off season." How about let these kids prove something then pay them.

This team has talent to get 9 points on this trip. Will it, no because they are too small, too full of themselves and not committed to winning. The veterans on this team are use to loosing, who are often marginal talent or players on their way out to pasture. There is no functional toughness, and I guarantee you that when Katz cans this group of incompetant managers, then and only then will the culture of loosing be gone.

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#39 Jay
March 03 2013, 11:20PM
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Hayek wrote:

I'm not talking about the past. Of course I am disappointed in the past.

We are in the middle stage of a rebuild. We finished 29th last year, and we are improving. Teams don't go from 29th, to making the playoffs the next year.

All I'm saying, is if you are an optimist, and think we will make the playoffs this year, you are extremely unrealistic, and will be angry without reason.

We had a 66% chance of losing vs the Wild today according to effecient sportsbook lines. So we lose, and people here are panicking, wanting the coaches' head, wanting trades. We were expected to lose, and we lost. Don't know how you can be a realist and get mad when expected outcomes occur.

You listen to Dan tencer too much! The problem is every person who's seen a game knows what the problem is and management fails to do anything about it. This team is soft and redundant in every position with the same player types.

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#40 VK63
March 03 2013, 11:21PM
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@Hayek

Puleeeeze...... they managed ZERO shots through twenty minutes of hockey. If you have EVER played this game at more than a complete bender level..... that is not possible.

Compounding that abysmal fail:::: this particular team of "future stars" is promoted by this franchise and it's shills as "highly skilled".

If that doesn't try your patience. I applaud your ability to disconnect and furthermore, a bag of your finest weed would be welcome.

Best guess... sorry to the moderators.

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#41 DSF
March 03 2013, 11:21PM
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Hayek wrote:

I'm not talking about the past. Of course I am disappointed in the past.

We are in the middle stage of a rebuild. We finished 29th last year, and we are improving. Teams don't go from 29th, to making the playoffs the next year.

All I'm saying, is if you are an optimist, and think we will make the playoffs this year, you are extremely unrealistic, and will be angry without reason.

We had a 66% chance of losing vs the Wild today according to effecient sportsbook lines. So we lose, and people here are panicking, wanting the coaches' head, wanting trades. We were expected to lose, and we lost. Don't know how you can be a realist and get mad when expected outcomes occur.

Expected outcomes when you draft in the top ten for 6 years in a row should be a playoff spot.

BTW, Florida went from last to the playoffs last season.

BTW the Oilers are NOT improving.

Over an 82 game season, they are on pace to score 200 goals.

Last season they scored 212.

Over an 82 game season, they are on pace to have a goal differential of -28.

Last season their goal differential was -27.

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#42 Smokey
March 03 2013, 11:24PM
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Devolution wrote:

You mean an established veteran coach like Pat Quinn? This team has bigger problems than the coach, it starts higher than that.

Quinn would be an upgrade. No shots for 25 minutes, some kinda great system we got.

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#43 Boogie Man
March 03 2013, 11:27PM
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As much as it pains me to say, because I can't stand the blow-hard, the Oilers would be better off with Brian Burke at the helm.

At least he takes a stand, he's not afraid to get proven NHL'ers and his players play with intensity.

Yeah, he makes the odd horrible trade or contract, but every GM has done that including our current management team. Horcoff, O'Sullivan, Eager, Souray... just to name a few.

I can't stand the Leafs, but at least they've made progress - and without a goalie. Burkie is available too.

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#44 Alsker
March 03 2013, 11:36PM
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As I stated on the GDB thread the only two left from days of "we cant afford a real team" are Joey Moss and Klowe and if kev points his finger at Joey I personally will cut off his arm , there is no heart, no grit, no buchberger on this team....as much as it pained me to see the "c" on his jersey how I wish he was here to bitchslap all those who refused to go the extra mile,take a hit to make a play, or finish a check...enough already get rid of the chosen one and truly change the culture of our beloved Oilers

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#45 Mr. Sense Common
March 03 2013, 11:38PM
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@Jimmer

100% correct. These midgets need beef. Why is Tammy and klowe blind to this?

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#46 6 ring circus
March 03 2013, 11:43PM
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I blame Tambellini and Lowe for this mess we are in,they are the ones who built this team and it's the same BS at the start of the season.The Oiler's propaganda machine gets everyone excited on how this team will compete this coming year with all the talent they have, only to watch them s*hit the bed year after year!!! The fans deserve better than this!!! Come on Mr Katz do something.

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#47 Hammers
March 03 2013, 11:46PM
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WEll you don't have to look to far . Coach thinks he has Swiss national team and you win with speeches & system . Sorry this is the NHL . I won't discuss Tambelini ( thumbelina )or Lowe ( he hired him ) . This team is a Dr Jekyl & Mr. Hyde bunch if ever I have seen one . The one thing Katz can say is SUCKERS as they won't loose money . Please let McT take over . #@&^%* off.

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I can put up with losing but the lack of effort displayed tonight, this deep into a rebuild is just plain impossible to swallow.

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#49 Mr. SEnse Common
March 03 2013, 11:52PM
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The poster formerly known as Koolaid drinker #33 wrote:

I can put up with losing but the lack of effort displayed tonight, this deep into a rebuild is just plain impossible to swallow.

I'm telling you guys, this ALLnrelated to one cancerous issue that is NEVER addressed. Muscle. Bodychecks. Intimidation. Fear opponents should feel when playing Edm.

Those are alll concepts Tammy and Klowendo NOT understand or believe. Simple. Literally that simple

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#50 VK63
March 03 2013, 11:57PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

And the players are used to it too.

When we (and robin) criticize the effort the team puts in in A game we are like the audience listening to the Salvation Army band playing on the titantic as it tips ever further down in the bow - critizing the French horn player's lack of tune.

My guess is the team knew it was done within the first few shifts of the first period. Minnesota set the style of play and, like me trying to deal with a pat cash serve, they had no return volley. They, and I, simply aren't equipped to do so.

And thus they gave up trying. Screaming at them to try - to try and lose a little less humiliatingly - is a tactic that yields swiftly diminishing returns.

They (and we) have lost hope.

Change - major change - change that finally delivers concrete solutions to what we have known to be this team's weaknesses for more than five years now - a hockey generations worth of time - is the only way to begin to regain sim whole about the future - in the short medium and long term.

As of this typing tambellini has been an unmitigated disaster - aided and abetted by fawner Katz and his Baghdad bob Kevin Lowe. I have no faith in his ability to make a swift yet wise move. Hell, they have had three years and haven't done it, what would logically lead one to expect that they can do it in the space of the next few weeks?

At this point in time they are squandering three - count'em three years worth of number ones potential - possibly doing serious damage to their careers - losing can be habit forming.

As oilers fans we are like babies trapped in a trailer park well.

Love it!!!

I prefer Katz as the 80s leftover jock sniffer fanboy c/w the hairdo, but fawner works just fine. Props!!

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