SMID SIGNS FOUR-YEAR DEAL

Jason Gregor
April 01 2013 09:55AM

Ladislav Smid and the Oilers agreed to a four-year extension worth $14 million this morning. This is fair deal for both and a reasonable cap hit of  $3.5 million. The deal does not include a no-movement or no-trade clause.

I'm not surprised the two sides agreed. The Oilers needed Smid and he really likes it in Edmonton. A rare win-win-win, for the team, the player and the fans.

Thoughts?

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#51 DieHard
April 01 2013, 11:23AM
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Now, Gagner for 4 years, 17M.

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#52 Spydyr
April 01 2013, 11:24AM
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This must be an April fools joke. There is no way the Oilers management paid the right price for the right player at the right time. That just does not happen here anymore.

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#53 michael
April 01 2013, 11:25AM
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Good number 14 million. In your mind JG do the Oilers now look at moving N Shultz. There is no way that they'll keep him moving forward when JS contract comes due. Whitney? If he stays what would be the price point? 2-2.5 million. He isn't a 3 million dollar player anymore. Never mind 5 million. If Gagner gets 45 points this season does that get him close to 5 million . What is his cap number? MP? 1.2.ish. A back up goalie? 600 large. Certainly not alot more than that.

My list of deadweight. Peckham. Belanger.Eager.Jones.Hordichuck. Petrell.NK. For me that is contracts that we can either buyout or walk away from due to RFA status or UFA status. With guys like Moroz,Klefbom,and others turning pro we will need those roster spots freed up this summer to get under the 50 contract limit.

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#54 DSF
April 01 2013, 11:27AM
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John Chambers wrote:

I would make the deal 83 straight up for the Rangers' pick. This is a deep draft year

Yep.

Problem is the Oilers might be handing Columbus a ticket to the playoffs.

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#55 Jay
April 01 2013, 11:27AM
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Praise Tambi!! We just got a while lot better!!! Oh wait.... Nevermind we just stayed the same and got more expensive

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#56 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 01 2013, 11:27AM
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John Chambers wrote:

I would make the deal 83 straight up for the Rangers' pick. This is a deep draft year

You're onto something there JC. Well done.

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#57 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 01 2013, 11:35AM
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DSF wrote:

Yep.

Problem is the Oilers might be handing Columbus a ticket to the playoffs.

Not sure first round "Road Kill" serves much of a purpose. Edmonton would be fortunate to win even one game against Chicago or Anaheim.

Lay low and find ourselves one more bullet for the chamber.

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#58 Walter Sobchak
April 01 2013, 11:40AM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Not sure first round "Road Kill" serves much of a purpose. Edmonton would be fortunate to win even one game against Chicago or Anaheim.

Lay low and find ourselves one more bullet for the chamber.

Agreed, could the Oilers move Whitney for a second as well? Giving the Oilers 3 seconds to use to move into the first, giving them 3 bullets.

Just a thought.

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#59 Love Monkey
April 01 2013, 11:47AM
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Love the deal; Love the guy. Glad Ladi is staying here.

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#60 Lochenzo
April 01 2013, 11:51AM
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If the Oil bag 2 pts tonight, I think the conversation for trading Whitney ends. We lack left shooting Dmen that can move the puck as well as Whitney. Playoffs without trading away the future should be the motto.

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#61 Mr. Sense Common
April 01 2013, 11:53AM
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this deal is irrelevant....fine to keep Smid, after next year the cap should go up forever more so can be easily absorbed. problem is this does noting to address the core elements of what is needed

1) Strong Center(s), Brandon Dubinsky, Steve Ott? (20min, pp net presence, pk specialist and the BEST son of a ** in the league)

2) Aggresive Forchecking wingers, Curtis Glencross, Wayne Simmonds (pain in the ass speed demons who will score, forecheck and skate like maniacs after pucks

3) D Gem, we do not have one today or tomorrow....im sorry but this is true. We need an ace, a Pronger, Doughty type....look at the teams that have won cups, they ALWAYS have an ace...guys that lay down to block shots are all over the place....Tammy needs to do something he is genetically predispositioned not to do....think big (Yak + Smid for PK Subban? offer Letang 9yr $63M?)

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#62 They're $hittie
April 01 2013, 11:58AM
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Its funny how DSF thinks he is bob mckenzie and reports stuff on here that we all get on twitter. Its a con to make himself seem credible.

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#63 Walter Sobchak
April 01 2013, 12:01PM
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@Mr. Sense Common

I usually always argue with you, here or at Lowetide, but this is almost exactly what the Oilers need.

I would minus Simmons, but the rest is bang on, Ott over Belanger, check, Glencross for the top six, check, and Dubinsky for his two way play.

Also, I think it was a Staple's article about Couturier being available, might be interesting for the Oilers. I still think Bouwmeester or Weber will end up an Oiler this summer.

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#64 Lochenzo
April 01 2013, 12:03PM
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This signing brought a bigger smile to my face than any I've seen in a while.

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#65 NewAgeSys
April 01 2013, 12:04PM
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Halfwise wrote:

@John Chambers Well played. Went right over the heads of a few trigger-happy commenters.

@NewAgeSys Sounds to me like there were two parties in the negotiation and they reached a deal that was acceptable to both, and no guns were held to anyone's head in the process. How does one side or the other get "to (sic) good a deal?"

I am no fan of Lowe and Tambellini's record, and I will throw in Katz' name as the, erm, genius behind those ill-fated whale hunts. Maybe they have all been learning on the job, and this is evidence that they are finally getting it.

Manage within two caps: the salary cap (moving target and you can manage your response to it) and 50 contracts (fixed target where the Undo button has very limited functionality). Manage a depth chart with a rolling three year window at every position. Do so in front of a fanbase with big opinions and limited patience. Guys, it isn't that easy.

@Halfwise

The"to good a deal" part is the fact that Smid surrenders an aspect of dynamic control of future contraction negotiations when he signs for 300k or so less than his going rate, and Iam including the term influences in my analysis.

I agree both sides have shown us an expedient and reasonable result and must have been on the same page to have had it go down this way, but as i said earlier it seems as if Smid is always closed out quickly like this, and to me it is evidence of the true value the team puts on him aside from their propoganda which is common but to me distasteful business practice.

Laddyis a long serving Oiler and has elite shotblocking ability which will look even better in2 or3 more years,I believe Smid was in a very comfortable bargaining position, I am not saying the Oilers had a gun to his head I am saying I am not sure I agree with the fact that laddy opted for the soft sell of the dollars and a mediocre term.

I understand the potential for Laddy to hit it huge in four years if we earn a Cup here and he is a key shutdown stay at home guy, those men earn top dollar after Cup rings get put on their fingers. I believe he is taking a calculated risk, a gamble. Had he demanded more money now he would have gotten more, and it would have made him a tougher asset to trade in the next 4 years, undervaluing himself only makes him a potential trade asset sooner. And gives the Oilers a dynamic advantage in determining Laddys future, they gain lattitude if you will.

The Oilers have hardballed Smid since day one and were very tough on him when he was young, the organisation constantly manipulated things to keep a dynamic advantage in their hands come contract time, this is one way of doing business no doubt.

I understand how difficult juggeling the many tasks you list could potentially be but i also see ways those tasks could by viewed in a synergistic manner and could through osmosis be condensed into much smaller more malleable dynmic decisions. Many of those tasks go hand in hand and can be micro-managed together in a multi-task format. There is also a fantastic support network surrounding each of these tasks when we are at the NHL level. You can manage a burger pit into the ground or create MacDonalds empire, it just depends how well suited and prepared you are for the job nd who you re surrounded by. No man should be expected to carry more weight than a single link in a properly forged chain.

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#66 The Soup Fascist
April 01 2013, 12:08PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Not sure first round "Road Kill" serves much of a purpose. Edmonton would be fortunate to win even one game against Chicago or Anaheim.

Lay low and find ourselves one more bullet for the chamber.

I think I would roll the dice in a matchup against the Blackhawks (in the slim hopes the Oil make the playoffs).

In the last season and a half, Oil are 4-2 (Outscoring the Hawks 32-23).

I know playoffs are different,and the Hawks would be strong favorites. I am just saying there are teams that match up better and worse. The Hawks would likely prefer a different matchup than the Oilers.

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#67 Geoff
April 01 2013, 12:20PM
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Solid deal for a solid player that's been here since the start of the rebuild so I'm happy lol.

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#69 Word
April 01 2013, 12:35PM
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Random question for people:

If you were a GM, how much would you "charge" a player for an NMC/NTC in their contract? In other words, how much of a discount below market does a player have to give you before you give them the right to dictate where they go when you try to trade them in their last UFA year?

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#70 GVBlackhawk
April 01 2013, 12:40PM
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bleedingoil wrote:

I actually never even read the names. Never had to make it that far once I saw the word "Canuck" Smid is a top 30 dman in the league. Top pairing guy regardless of who is on that list.

Now THAT'S satire.

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#71 Muji
April 01 2013, 12:49PM
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Mr. Sense Common wrote:

this deal is irrelevant....fine to keep Smid, after next year the cap should go up forever more so can be easily absorbed. problem is this does noting to address the core elements of what is needed

1) Strong Center(s), Brandon Dubinsky, Steve Ott? (20min, pp net presence, pk specialist and the BEST son of a ** in the league)

2) Aggresive Forchecking wingers, Curtis Glencross, Wayne Simmonds (pain in the ass speed demons who will score, forecheck and skate like maniacs after pucks

3) D Gem, we do not have one today or tomorrow....im sorry but this is true. We need an ace, a Pronger, Doughty type....look at the teams that have won cups, they ALWAYS have an ace...guys that lay down to block shots are all over the place....Tammy needs to do something he is genetically predispositioned not to do....think big (Yak + Smid for PK Subban? offer Letang 9yr $63M?)

Pronger is a hall-of-famer. There are only a handful of guys like that in the league and the only one close to Pronger-caliber is likely Chara.

Doughty has the same # of goals that Smid has this year and is a $7M cap hit. Letang is a great offensive dman but is not a complete defenceman like Pronger.

I'm not saying that the Oilers don't need a complete dman - they do - but they're hard to come by and most teams don't have an elite one.

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#72 dougtheslug
April 01 2013, 01:05PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Smid would be the 9th best defenseman on the Canucks.

Edler

Ballard

Tanev

Jurki Lumme

Hamhuis

Stan Smyl

Bieksa

Salo

Ohlund

#60wildplayoffgames

Brilliant! Had me going for a second. Mucho props!

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#73 Wedontneedpicksareuhigh!!
April 01 2013, 01:15PM
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What are some off you smoking!!! We don't need any picks we just had 3 firsts in a row. We need players that can play now !

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#74 DigDeepNBleedBlue
April 01 2013, 01:33PM
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Would of liked 3mil, but 3.5mil is a number this team will be able to live with.

I can live with it too. Congrats Smid!

I expect a extra mil worth of scrums in front of the Oilers' net. Stick a flame in the face, Smid! I kid. ...sort of.

Lets go, blue!!!

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#75 mr .sense common
April 01 2013, 01:38PM
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Muji wrote:

Pronger is a hall-of-famer. There are only a handful of guys like that in the league and the only one close to Pronger-caliber is likely Chara.

Doughty has the same # of goals that Smid has this year and is a $7M cap hit. Letang is a great offensive dman but is not a complete defenceman like Pronger.

I'm not saying that the Oilers don't need a complete dman - they do - but they're hard to come by and most teams don't have an elite one.

hard to come by indeed...like all/any good players, thats why your GM needs to have big kahuna's and a shrewd mind. Letang is UNREAL, watch him play closely, controls the play completely. You surround a guy like him with average d and you get the goals against pitts does. If im Tammy, I offer Edm's #1 pick in this year's draft a day before the draft to Pitts for Letang (pitts next year cant keep him and malkin) and i do a sign and trade like Klowe did with Pronger. Remember that? ya....thats what winners do, seek and attack.

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#76 mr. sense common
April 01 2013, 01:43PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Does nothing to address the core element?

This team doesn't have enough quality #4 D-men, so it does address that need. They keep him. They need more, but suggesting this signing is irrelevant means you think they can win with just one superstar D-man. No team does that. Smid is a solid contributor. Smart signing.

Letting Smid go and getting a strong centre or guy like Ott, would have been one step forward, one step back. Oilers are at stage where they need to build strong foundation. Smid is one of those signings.

yes nothing. smid is a matt greene, a brooks orpik, a fedor tyutin.....nothing to blow balloons over and write a letter home to mommy.

my choosing of the word "irrelevant" was to denote that it was a neutral move, when and if the oil win a cup, it wont be because of any superhuman play or quality of Lady Smid but sure...guys like him and he is a "leader" whatever that means.

Addressing our dimunitive centers is not a core element? Steve Ott by himself would not astronomically address multiple needs? (nhl bodycheck leader, 20min a game, center, scores garbage goals) Oil have an abundance of this?

Buffalo is a mess right now...every effort must be made to get Steve Ott and immediately delete jones and petrol.

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#77 lucky
April 01 2013, 02:05PM
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@ JC Well Done Sir

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#78 Czar
April 01 2013, 02:35PM
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Glad it's done and Smid can concentrate on extending his scoring streak.

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#79 Messy EH!
April 01 2013, 02:59PM
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The Oilers would eat the Hawks lunch in the playoffs. 4 game sweep and Gagner gets 32 points in the series.

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#80 Monkeyswan
April 01 2013, 03:03PM
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Mr. Sense Common wrote:

this deal is irrelevant....fine to keep Smid, after next year the cap should go up forever more so can be easily absorbed. problem is this does noting to address the core elements of what is needed

1) Strong Center(s), Brandon Dubinsky, Steve Ott? (20min, pp net presence, pk specialist and the BEST son of a ** in the league)

2) Aggresive Forchecking wingers, Curtis Glencross, Wayne Simmonds (pain in the ass speed demons who will score, forecheck and skate like maniacs after pucks

3) D Gem, we do not have one today or tomorrow....im sorry but this is true. We need an ace, a Pronger, Doughty type....look at the teams that have won cups, they ALWAYS have an ace...guys that lay down to block shots are all over the place....Tammy needs to do something he is genetically predispositioned not to do....think big (Yak + Smid for PK Subban? offer Letang 9yr $63M?)

Problem is? How could Smid have helped any of those concerns you listed. They signed a decent d-man at a good rate, I think he would have got more had he tested free agency.

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#81 mr. sense common
April 01 2013, 03:22PM
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Monkeyswan wrote:

Problem is? How could Smid have helped any of those concerns you listed. They signed a decent d-man at a good rate, I think he would have got more had he tested free agency.

lol exactly why i said "irrelevant". smid is irrelevant to the "real/actual" problems the oilers have. thats all im saying. smid is a nice boy, good for him, wonderful, superb but we have other/bigger problems

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#82 Top Cheddar
April 01 2013, 03:49PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Does nothing to address the core element?

This team doesn't have enough quality #4 D-men, so it does address that need. They keep him. They need more, but suggesting this signing is irrelevant means you think they can win with just one superstar D-man. No team does that. Smid is a solid contributor. Smart signing.

Letting Smid go and getting a strong centre or guy like Ott, would have been one step forward, one step back. Oilers are at stage where they need to build strong foundation. Smid is one of those signings.

Smid is at best a number 5/6 anywhere else in the league. The cap better go up quickly when 93, 19 and 64's ELC's come due because if Edm is paying this for a "shutdown" d man, how do you expect legitimate 1-2 d men at 5/6 million per to fit here?

In the grand scheme Jason, don't you think this might be trouble for the Oil? Especially years three and four of this deal.

I understand why they did it...as it's been pounded down our throats for the last three weeks: UFA at only 27, blocks shots, eats minutes, PK, likeable guy, wants to be here, decent but not great hands/puck moving skills, etc...I suppose someone else would've overpayed if we didn't.

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#83 chains
April 01 2013, 05:01PM
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We could have Scottie Upshall for that contract! Good Deal

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#84 bleedingoil
April 01 2013, 06:25PM
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Top Cheddar wrote:

Smid is at best a number 5/6 anywhere else in the league. The cap better go up quickly when 93, 19 and 64's ELC's come due because if Edm is paying this for a "shutdown" d man, how do you expect legitimate 1-2 d men at 5/6 million per to fit here?

In the grand scheme Jason, don't you think this might be trouble for the Oil? Especially years three and four of this deal.

I understand why they did it...as it's been pounded down our throats for the last three weeks: UFA at only 27, blocks shots, eats minutes, PK, likeable guy, wants to be here, decent but not great hands/puck moving skills, etc...I suppose someone else would've overpayed if we didn't.

5/6 based on what? Top 5 in league in blocked shots and hits. The Oilers can only put 24 goals in the net when Smid is on the ice so I am not going to blame his -2 rating on him alone. We take some of the most penalties in the league, and over 20% of Smid's ice time is on the PK this year. A 5/6 guy? You think there are at least 120 better Dmen out there? Based on? Please dont say point production on this low scoring squad we have had this year.

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#85 Neal
April 01 2013, 06:25PM
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Wow you guys. This was the Oilers top pairing D on the left side. If he'd gone to free agency, he could have gotten 4.5 for sure - maybe higher because a seasoned D just like him is not in plentiful quantity. And what nobody is considering is that if he left, there's nobody out there to replace him with. Not in our system for a couple years, not in free agency. He took a discount because he wanted to stay here. We're damned lucky.

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