Putting the band back together

Jason Strudwick
April 16 2013 09:34AM

Yesterday Steve Tambellini was removed from his position as general manager of the Edmonton Oilers. He was replaced by Craig MacTavish. Former general manager of the Columbus Blue Jackets Scott Howson moves up in the lineup. Kevin Lowe, MacT and Howson have worked closely together before and now must get this team firmly on track.

Tambellini

I will start with Tambellini. Based on the record of the team since he took over his removal as manager should not be a real surprise. That being said, the team has been improving through their top draft picks. The top-end talent is there now. I firmly believe his plan was to be patient, let the youth develop and then make moves to plug the holes this summer.

But when you look past the three top picks how many drafted players are poised to jump into the lineup up today, next year of the year after that? Down in OKC I don't think there are too many. Oscar Klefbom is a good young prospect, but his shoulder injury may have slowed down his career.

There are some drafted players in college and junior that will turn pro in the next season or two. Time will tell how well the team drafted past the first picks. As GM you are ultimately responsible.

Steve tried to fill in around the team’s youth with free agent signings and small trades. Belanger, Eager, Hordichuk, Fistric, Brown and Smyth haven't had a huge impact on the club. These are not big minute guys. Big minute players with courage and endless compete levels are what the Oilers have needed and continue to need desperately.

The one signing that I loved, and thought was a great move three years in a row was Jason Strudwick. This guy had a sick backhand, impressive hair for a 35-year-old and won well over twenty percent of his fights. This signing could be considered the high water mark of Tambellini's off-season moves.

The combination of Lowe, MacTavish and Howson produced average results when they were together. Everyone remembers the terrific sprint to the Cup finals, but outside of that nothing very memorable. Should we expect something different this time?

Howson

Scott Howson became the GM of Columbus in June of 2007. There wasn't a lot of great success for his teams. However, the one area his club was very good at especially this year was its compete level. I have watched the Blue Jackets play against the Oilers and other teams this year and they battle the whole game, all over the ice. How many nights have we said that about the Oilers this year?

The Blue Jackets are in playoff contention because they never give up. They do not have the skill in their top-six forwards the Oilers do. They have to compete. Howson also put together a very good and underrated group of defenceman. They are mobile and pretty big.

Both areas the Blue Jackets are now strong in are the two areas of big concern for the Oilers. Before we all write him off maybe Howson should be given a second chance, if he can improve those areas.

MacTavish

MacT is the new general manager. Ironically he was the type of player the Oilers need on their team today. A player full of character, consistency and dependability. Can he bring in the types of players required?

This team does not compete hard enough. That is obvious. The number one job for MacT is to upgrade the compete level throughout this lineup. Easier said than done. He is a rookie GM, but I don't think it makes a big difference. This area needs to be addressed.

I think it is valuable that he played the type of game that is lacking on this team. He can recognize those attributes in players he wants to trade for, draft or sign.

The biggest question is will he have the courage to make hard decisions? Does he have the stomach to maybe move out some long time Oilers if he feels it needs to be done? Will he trade a young stud to get a new mix in the Oilers top 6? These are hard decisions that he will have to be made at some point. We don't know if he can or can't because there is no track record. After having played for him I think he can.

Lowe

Kevin Lowe has been part of the Oilers for a long time. He has been a part of the greatest moments for the Oilers and the worst. He has almost always been here. He is taking a lot of heat for "keeping the old boys’ club" going today. I understand why many of you are feeling this way.

That was my initial reaction as well. After taking some time to think about it and actually write down my thoughts I am at peace with it. Howson could bring the compete blueprint with him from the Blue Jackets, exactly what is missing from the Oilers. MacT worked in the Vancouver system as head coach in their Chicago farm team. That is a very well-run organization. They have developed many of their own stars and players over the last many years. The Oilers need to have their own later round picks come up through the system.

Based on those two guys and what they have seen and done I think there is reason to be hopeful.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter to me who has what title or who is whose boss. These three will be working together to make this team whole by filling in the holes. Yes there were all together previously with very mixed results but the landscape has changed.

Two big changes in fact. New ownership with an appetite to spend and a cap system in place that really evens out the playing field. I am not making excuses for previous season, but this has made a difference for smaller market teams.

Ultimately I can break this down as much as I want, but we won't know for a few years if this was the right call. If the team goes on to successful seasons Kevin Lowe will be hailed a genius.

If it doesn't then all the naysayers can say they were right.

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#2 Jay
April 16 2013, 09:55AM
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Can we get some sort of icon beside the names of season ticket holders? It's impossible to know which comments are actually worth reading!

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#3 Harlie
April 16 2013, 10:00AM
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I'm saying to you all that I am getting impatient after three years.

And lastly I’ll say, there’s many other guys I believe in hockey today, that are still working in the game, that have won more Stanley Cups than me, because I actually haven't won any, so I think I know a little bit about losing, if that’s ever a concern.

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#4 Rob...
April 16 2013, 10:41AM
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@VK63

unconscious: You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means.

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#5 djc
April 16 2013, 10:47AM
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Jay wrote:

Can we get some sort of icon beside the names of season ticket holders? It's impossible to know which comments are actually worth reading!

Yawn ... how many variations of the same joke do you have?

We get it - Kevin Lowe hurt your feelings because you can't afford season tickets or you are sooooo busy you can't make it to the games or whatever excuse you have. Season ticket holders pay the majority of the bills which is why the team sends them surveys, asks their input, whatever. Try to get over it.

The NHL shut down for half a year and nearly everyone came back and there is still a 2000+ person waiting list for season tickets. If you are this mad at the oilers go "support" another team. You don't provide anything the team is going to miss.

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#6 Rob...
April 16 2013, 10:07AM
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Jason, if only Lowe had one quarter of the humility that you have, he'd be more likeable.

BTW, you were once an Oiler. Any chance you'll soon be ascending the ranks of Oil management? LOL

I think he applied for the position of Octane Talent Scout.

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#7 Dave
April 16 2013, 09:54AM
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"This guy had a sick backhand, impressive hair for a thirty five year old and won well over twenty percent of his fights. This signing could be considered the high water mark for his off season moves." :) So excellent. But in a self depricating way, gives all sorts of perspective, don't it?

Oh, and enjoyed the read.

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#8 Scott MacLowe
April 16 2013, 09:49AM
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All non paying fans have no say so back off!

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#9 -30-
April 16 2013, 09:56AM
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Jason, if only Lowe had one quarter of the humility that you have, he'd be more likeable.

BTW, you were once an Oiler. Any chance you'll soon be ascending the ranks of Oil management? LOL

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#10 Quicksilver ballet
April 16 2013, 10:10AM
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Lol, what a debacle. The same guys who got our Oilers into this mess in the first place.

Nothing can be done now, especially with a careless billionaire hockey fan seated in the owners chair. Hard to believe they still get 16000+ lambs/fans (the "A" type fans) every night for Daryls ship shows.

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#11 Toro
April 16 2013, 10:51AM
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You guys need to relax on Mac T , am I the only one who wasn't surprised by this move... Why do you think the Oilers brought back Mac T a year ago, so he could be Vice President.. No this move has been planned for a year now , and just now it's being put in motion, I don't mind the move and I liked a lot of what Mac T said in the press conference , bout time we have someone who is willing too make the necessary changes that need to be done too this roster, Tambo was the most patient man ever , too patient too be in charge of making a winning team, and maybe a little bit of impatience and some bold moves is exactly what this team needs , plus Lowe has 6 Stanley cup rings.... I THINK HE KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT WINNING !!! Lol

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#12 Ducey
April 16 2013, 10:52AM
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@Quicksilver ballet

The two types of fans thing was probably going down the road of "paying fans and then whose idiot media types and dumbasses who hide behind stupid internet handles and take out their personal problems on us".

You can take some solace that at some level he was thinking about you.

As for Lowe's # being in the rafters, I expect it would be there already, if he let them do so.

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#13 keilan
April 16 2013, 11:20AM
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0iler Nation behaving poorly

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#14 Lochenzo
April 16 2013, 12:08PM
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Howson also landed Bobrovsky for a song.

First, I have to say that I'm thankful Tambi is a patient GM. He stuck with the rebuild over the past few years and got his top picks. We've seen teams fail to do that. Imagine if the culture of aggressive management (where we were chasing guys like Vanek and Heatley) had seeped into the 2010 season. Phil Kessel was available that summer. Maybe the Oil would have outbid the Leafs with two 1sts and two 2nds.

Ask yourself which roster you'd rather have: 1)Taylor Hall, RNH, Tyler Pitlick, Martin Marincin, Nail Yakupov or, 2) Phil Kessel and Nail Yakupov.

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#15 DigDeepNBleedBlue
April 16 2013, 12:27PM
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Jason Strudwick wrote:

Ok. I will dumb it down.

The players on the team all need to try harder

Bahahahaha!!! That's some funny sh*t!

Very true, though.

Ahhhhhhh, I needed that after reading some of these comments.

Some of you commenters, sorry, really do sound like scorned women. I shake my head. Wow. Get over it! It is what it is.

The future is bright, yo!

Big smile. Big Smile! BIG SMILE! lol

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#16 Walter Sobchak
April 16 2013, 12:30PM
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This team is now the official laughing stock of the NHL.

The Edmonton Oilers have usurped the NYI as the most inept hockey organization in North America.

Not only do they make poor decisions internally it has spilled over into the public.

I am a season ticket holder for both the Edmonton Oilers and the Oil Kings and couldnt belive what I heard come out of Lowes cake hole.

This organization reeks of arrogance from the radio personality’s to the head office.

Never did I ever get a sense of entitlement from Sather, Fraser or Phillips, or Muckler

This team is almost beyond saving at this time.

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#17 Walter Sobchak
April 16 2013, 01:26PM
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DigDeepNBleedBlue wrote:

So, you're saying the sky is falling?

The sky fell! all thats left is the rubble of a once proud franchise.

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#18 Hayek
April 16 2013, 02:30PM
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Jason Strudwick wrote:

Ok. I will dumb it down.

The players on the team all need to try harder

LOL, thanks Jason.

But if you say "need to try harder" sounds alot better than compete level in my opinion. Compete level sounds like a bad hockey cliche.

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#19 The Real Scuba Steve
April 16 2013, 09:37AM
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I'm fist to say there is always next year at this point in time to go over what wrong for not making the playoffs for the 8th time

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#20 Geoff
April 16 2013, 09:53AM
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THE BLUES BROTHERS!! =D

Ok I'll read the article now lol.

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#21 Hemmercules
April 16 2013, 09:59AM
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I'm pretty sure no matter what happens, Lowe will never be hailed as a genius. Had a good laugh when I read that. I'm majorly concerned about this management group.

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#22 Geoff
April 16 2013, 10:05AM
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I had the same reaction as probably many other people had with the firing. "OMG THEY DID SOMETHING?!" to "OH NO :(" lol. But if there is one thing that puts my mind at ease about hiring up the "old boys club" is that MacT despite all potential criticisms is one bright smart dude and after the conference thingy you can tell he gives a hoot.

Time will tell but one thing is for sure this off season will probably be as eventful as the armageddon blow up year where we had to drop a bunch of contracts lol. /popcorn time

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#23 number99
April 16 2013, 10:11AM
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"The one signing that I loved and thought was a great move three years in a row was Jason Strudwick. This guy had a sick backhand, impressive hair for a thirty five year old and won well over twenty percent of his fights. This signing could be considered the high water mark for his off season moves."

GOLD!

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#24 goin to cabo
April 16 2013, 10:18AM
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This has to be K-Lowes last chance??????????

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#25 Spydyr
April 16 2013, 10:23AM
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The Real Scuba Steve wrote:

I'm fist to say there is always next year at this point in time to go over what wrong for not making the playoffs for the 8th time

Next year it will be. Well we gave Ralph the players and he never won with them. So we are please to announce the next coach of the Oilers Kelly Buchberger.

Mark it

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#26 jason
April 16 2013, 10:23AM
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on the first horse which was white sat the conqueror (the anti stanly cup christ) he bought the team and set loose the other three horse men upon oiler fans. on the second horse which was red sat scott howsen (pestilence) he unleashed the disease of despaire upon oiler fans now they knew things would never change. on the third horse which was black sat kevin lowe (war) he made war on oiler fans telling them they had no right to critisize his incompetence because they weren't season ticket holders, and the season ticket holders, well they could express there opinions but ultimately he doesn't respect them either because they are not backed up by six stanly cup rings, and hence have little value. the fourth rider who sat on a sickly grey horse his name was mactavish (death). he killed the hope of oiler fans that things would ever change, and hades folled behind him ( the re tooling flames).

ps if you ever wondered why there were horse stables behind the oilers office building, well now you know.

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#27 Quicksilver ballet
April 16 2013, 10:25AM
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Jason, if only Lowe had one quarter of the humility that you have, he'd be more likeable.

BTW, you were once an Oiler. Any chance you'll soon be ascending the ranks of Oil management? LOL

Can you imagine how massive Lowes ego would be, had his number been up in those rafters as well. Really hoping Mac T isn't just another one of those Post Turtles.

Fence Post Turtle- You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there in the first place. (courtesy of Tom)

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#28 Wendy01
April 16 2013, 10:27AM
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I too would like to see an icon beside the names of season ticket holders. All the rest of us who will buy merchandise, pay taxes, etc., etc., should just shut up! Actually we should just stop having an opinion on anything to do with this hockey team. Ever!! Oh and all you press guys, shut up too! You don't even pay for your press passes. Just remember you can be banned from the dressing room, so be careful to have a koolaid opinion in a koolaid world!

I love MacT but K. Lowe is still running the show and he is now letting his arrogance show through. He should remember that billionaire's can just go buy new friends.

Aaargh! It is so frustrating as a fan of this team for over 30 years to see what a joke the Oilers have become to the rest of the NHL!

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#29 StHenriOilBomb
April 16 2013, 10:28AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Lol, what a debacle. The same guys who got our Oilers into this mess in the first place.

Nothing can be done now, especially with a careless billionaire hockey fan seated in the owners chair. Hard to believe they still get 16000+ lambs/fans (the "A" type fans) every night for Daryls ship shows.

I think Lowe chose MacT because it's the only hire he can make where he can retain his influence in hockey decisions. If any other GM is hired, Lowe becomes cut out of the decision making process, and becomes redundant. If Tamby keeps his job, Lowe risks losing his. He had no choice, and should be gone.

You're exactly right that this is the group. Lowe will continue to have influence in management, as MacT apparently did as a coach. Together again. It seems that they have an axe to grind having felt handcuffed by ownership in the past. It's almost like Tamby was positioned to be the fall guy all along to allow Lowe and MacT to control of the team after the tough rebuild years... Who knows. It's a mess.

Hopefully MacT proves us wrong.

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#30 VK63
April 16 2013, 10:30AM
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The significant improvement in Columbus comes on the back of Bobrovsky being unconscious and JD holding the players accountable. You are correct that the roster has some gamers and a functional defence.... masked by a bunch of 5 alarms from BOBO. they are fun to watch... remind me of the Doug Weight led Oilers... bunch of beauties. On the entire team the only floater I see is Johanssen but part of that is optics as he's big and smooth so the Mahovolich/Lemieux thing may be at work.

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#31 Will
April 16 2013, 10:38AM
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As someone that coached a poor team, and as someone who is smart and such, I have no doubt Mac T knows what kind of team it will take to win and move forward. But the largest criticism levied against Tambi is that he seemed un able to pull off big trades. And as good as you are at identifying team needs, Mac T is going to have to be better at executing deals at good value.

That seems to be where the Lawyer background GM's have an edge as they seem to be able to get something for nothing, and identify trading partners that will trade away salary for low futures.

Having said that, for all the 'lawyer' background GM's that are successful, there are just as many that aren't, or could be argued to be not so good lately. Burke is one that comes to mind. That Kessel trade was so bad.

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#32 Rocket
April 16 2013, 10:41AM
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Blues Brothers-Props

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Bad Lowe Bad

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#33 Hayek
April 16 2013, 10:43AM
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"Big minute players with courage and endless compete levels..."

"However, the one area his club was very good at especially this year was its compete level."

"Howson could bring the compete blueprint with him from the Blue Jackets."

Any chance we can stop using the useless term known as compete level? With Tambellini gone, who should be asking for a little more from the Oilers, and Oilersnation.

Otherwise, thought your article was very solid.

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#34 Rocket
April 16 2013, 10:46AM
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StHenriOilBomb wrote:

I think Lowe chose MacT because it's the only hire he can make where he can retain his influence in hockey decisions. If any other GM is hired, Lowe becomes cut out of the decision making process, and becomes redundant. If Tamby keeps his job, Lowe risks losing his. He had no choice, and should be gone.

You're exactly right that this is the group. Lowe will continue to have influence in management, as MacT apparently did as a coach. Together again. It seems that they have an axe to grind having felt handcuffed by ownership in the past. It's almost like Tamby was positioned to be the fall guy all along to allow Lowe and MacT to control of the team after the tough rebuild years... Who knows. It's a mess.

Hopefully MacT proves us wrong.

Yeah the organisation seems to be a mess. 'm rooting for MacT as well but I lose faith (and interest) in this team every year when they suck this bad.

I hate feeling that way 'cause I really want the team to be successful but this organisation doesn't really inspire me.

Like you said:"Hopefully MacT proves us wrong". Agreed.

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#35 Mike Krushelnyski
April 16 2013, 10:51AM
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Dave wrote:

"This guy had a sick backhand, impressive hair for a thirty five year old and won well over twenty percent of his fights. This signing could be considered the high water mark for his off season moves." :) So excellent. But in a self depricating way, gives all sorts of perspective, don't it?

Oh, and enjoyed the read.

Should never have let that guy go. I heard he had a point every 3 games in Sweden!

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#36 Mike IA
April 16 2013, 10:52AM
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I think Lowe needs guys he is simpatico with, and who can play rough and tumble with him. Howson has experienced the rigors of GMing, and MacT has had some lifechanging experiences of his own. I kind of like the Blue Jackets who are closer to the playoffs than the Oilers, without the talent. Ideally, that attitude will come to the Oilers.

We'll see if the Oilers get the same boost the Blue Jackets did when Howson left.

As for the idea that MacT is Lowe's poodle boy, bah, he walked away from here once before. I have no fears in that regard.

I am more interested in how they all fit into the Katz brain trust. That ,I think , is where the story lies.

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#37 Geoff
April 16 2013, 11:25AM
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By the way does anyone else think that the blue jackets are quite similar to the oiler's prior to 05/06? They have no top end talent except for one guy essentially, they work their ass off, and their goalie is rock solid.

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#38 DSF
April 16 2013, 11:26AM
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StHenriOilBomb wrote:

I think Lowe chose MacT because it's the only hire he can make where he can retain his influence in hockey decisions. If any other GM is hired, Lowe becomes cut out of the decision making process, and becomes redundant. If Tamby keeps his job, Lowe risks losing his. He had no choice, and should be gone.

You're exactly right that this is the group. Lowe will continue to have influence in management, as MacT apparently did as a coach. Together again. It seems that they have an axe to grind having felt handcuffed by ownership in the past. It's almost like Tamby was positioned to be the fall guy all along to allow Lowe and MacT to control of the team after the tough rebuild years... Who knows. It's a mess.

Hopefully MacT proves us wrong.

A very insightful post.

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#39 Crusty Grit
April 16 2013, 11:26AM
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Scott MacLowe wrote:

All non paying fans have no say so back off!

If you consistently buy merchandise are you still a non-paying fan?

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#40 non descript
April 16 2013, 11:30AM
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i'm skeptical of the moves as it seems like more shuffling of deck chairs. i also think that with lowes managerial record as poor as it is he should keep his mouth shut and stay down until he has a reason to blow his horn as a successful manager.

hopefully bold doesn't become synonymous with rash and/or stupid in this town.

i really hope this works this time.

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#41 DSF
April 16 2013, 11:31AM
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Will wrote:

As someone that coached a poor team, and as someone who is smart and such, I have no doubt Mac T knows what kind of team it will take to win and move forward. But the largest criticism levied against Tambi is that he seemed un able to pull off big trades. And as good as you are at identifying team needs, Mac T is going to have to be better at executing deals at good value.

That seems to be where the Lawyer background GM's have an edge as they seem to be able to get something for nothing, and identify trading partners that will trade away salary for low futures.

Having said that, for all the 'lawyer' background GM's that are successful, there are just as many that aren't, or could be argued to be not so good lately. Burke is one that comes to mind. That Kessel trade was so bad.

The team that Burke built just made the playoffs.

THAT is the point.

If you look more closely, many of the more successful GM's in the league also spent time as player's agents which not only gives them an increased level of knowledge of other GM's tendencies but they also have experience on both sides of the negotiating table.

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#42 Ryan2
April 16 2013, 11:53AM
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I think the only people happy with this move are the agents for players similar to the Petersen, Thoresen, Pouliot types that CrackedT loved as a coach........

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#43 Ducey
April 16 2013, 11:55AM
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DSF wrote:

The team that Burke built just made the playoffs.

THAT is the point.

If you look more closely, many of the more successful GM's in the league also spent time as player's agents which not only gives them an increased level of knowledge of other GM's tendencies but they also have experience on both sides of the negotiating table.

Do you think the Leaves would be better with Kessel or Seguin and Hamilton?

That is the point.

It was a terrible, terrible trade. But I could forgive him for it if it wasn't for the fact that he so badly misjudged where his team was at. The Kessel trade was supposed to get them to the playoffs, but didn't even come close.

I can only think of one guy, Gillis, who was a player agent to any extent, and he has not exactly set the world on fire. In fact, his handling of Luongo is a model of how not to manage two goalies.

Lombardi stopped beind an agent after just a few years, when he was 30 (in 1988), and has been in management ever since.

Anyone else?

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#44 Ryan2
April 16 2013, 12:02PM
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DSF wrote:

The team that Burke built just made the playoffs.

THAT is the point.

If you look more closely, many of the more successful GM's in the league also spent time as player's agents which not only gives them an increased level of knowledge of other GM's tendencies but they also have experience on both sides of the negotiating table.

Don't forget that Burke also built the Canucks team that has dominated the NW for the recent past.

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#45 Lochenzo
April 16 2013, 12:15PM
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How many Cup rings does Burke have, not counting the one that actually belongs to Bryan Murray? Bryan Murray is a good evaluator of hockey talent. Dave Nonis is a good evaluator of hockey talent. Burke is very good at surrounding himself with people that can evaluate hockey talent.

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#46 Lochenzo
April 16 2013, 12:22PM
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So the pendulum has swung again. The Oil went from being very aggressive and chasing guys like Dany Heatley across the country begging him to come to Edmonton, to being real conservative and accumulating top picks and taking the consensus #1 player and now we are back to being aggressive again. How aggressive will they be? Hopefully not as crazy as they were before.

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#47 DigDeepNBleedBlue
April 16 2013, 12:33PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

This team is now the official laughing stock of the NHL.

The Edmonton Oilers have usurped the NYI as the most inept hockey organization in North America.

Not only do they make poor decisions internally it has spilled over into the public.

I am a season ticket holder for both the Edmonton Oilers and the Oil Kings and couldnt belive what I heard come out of Lowes cake hole.

This organization reeks of arrogance from the radio personality’s to the head office.

Never did I ever get a sense of entitlement from Sather, Fraser or Phillips, or Muckler

This team is almost beyond saving at this time.

So, you're saying the sky is falling?

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#48 positivebrontefan
April 16 2013, 12:33PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

Howson also landed Bobrovsky for a song.

First, I have to say that I'm thankful Tambi is a patient GM. He stuck with the rebuild over the past few years and got his top picks. We've seen teams fail to do that. Imagine if the culture of aggressive management (where we were chasing guys like Vanek and Heatley) had seeped into the 2010 season. Phil Kessel was available that summer. Maybe the Oil would have outbid the Leafs with two 1sts and two 2nds.

Ask yourself which roster you'd rather have: 1)Taylor Hall, RNH, Tyler Pitlick, Martin Marincin, Nail Yakupov or, 2) Phil Kessel and Nail Yakupov.

We had a patient GM (to a fault) when we needed one. The time for that is over. Now we need people like Hall in the lineup for his hate to lose attitude. I've been at the last three crappy games and the only ones who competed at all where Hall and Yakupov. They at least showed some emotion and hit someone, or slashed in Halls case. Hall brings way more to this lineup than skill and if we continue to flounder he will start to get numb like the rest of the former compete players like our old friend Smitty. Poor bastard just doesn't have the legs or the heart anymore.

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April 16 2013, 01:03PM
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Do you think the Leaves would be better with Kessel or Seguin and Hamilton?

That is the point.

It was a terrible, terrible trade. But I could forgive him for it if it wasn't for the fact that he so badly misjudged where his team was at. The Kessel trade was supposed to get them to the playoffs, but didn't even come close.

I can only think of one guy, Gillis, who was a player agent to any extent, and he has not exactly set the world on fire. In fact, his handling of Luongo is a model of how not to manage two goalies.

Lombardi stopped beind an agent after just a few years, when he was 30 (in 1988), and has been in management ever since.

Anyone else?

Pretty easy to figure out.

Kessel: 42GP 16G 26A 43P

Seguin: 41GP 15G 14A 29P

If we pro-rate those numbers over a full season we get:

Kessel: 32G 51A 83P

Seguin: 30G 28A 58P

Not sure why you would suggest Seguin would be a better choice at this point than a PPG player.

And remember Kessel is playing with Tyler Bozak as his centre not Bergeron.

As for Dougie Hamilton, he appears to be a very good young defenseman but in Burkes time with the Leafs he also acquired Dion Phaneuf. Cody Franson, Jake Gardiner, Morgan Rielly and Matt Finn.

I expect the Leafs D will be just fine.

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April 16 2013, 01:04PM
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Lochenzo wrote:

How many Cup rings does Burke have, not counting the one that actually belongs to Bryan Murray? Bryan Murray is a good evaluator of hockey talent. Dave Nonis is a good evaluator of hockey talent. Burke is very good at surrounding himself with people that can evaluate hockey talent.

And that's exactly what good GM's do.

What is MacT surrounded with?

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