WHAT HAS SCOTT HOWSON LEARNED?

Jason Gregor
April 17 2013 11:05AM

Scott Howson spent five years and eight months as General Manager of the Columbus Blue Jackets, before being fired in February, and on Monday he officially returned to the Oilers  as VP of Hockey Operations.

What has he learned since leaving Edmonton? What will he bring to the organization?

Howson came on my radio show on Monday to discuss his role with the Oilers, what he's learrned since he left and what he plans to do to help the Oilers return to the playoffs.

Gregor: You left Edmonton six years ago. What have you learned in the last six years that could help you contribute even more this time around?

Howson: I think it’s going to be a different role this time. Anytime you’ve had the privilege of being a General Manager in the league and we went through some tough times in Columbus, just like we’ve seen here in Edmonton, you learn a lot. You’ve gotta plough through that, you’ve gotta be strong, and you’ve gotta persevere. I’ve learned quite a bit there and I’m certainly anxious and excited to bring what I’ve learned and also to keep growing here and help move this team in the right direction.

Gregor: What did you learn specifically?

Howson: I think nothing is easy in this business, we all know that. Nothing is easy in any business, but certainly there are not enough players around. Every team will tell you the same thing, that there are not enough good players around. You’ve got to be assertive, you’ve got to be aggressive and you’ve got to be direct. I think those are all things that I’ve learned. You’ve got to build an organization that has trust, honesty, and directness. Those are the types of things that I think I’ve learned in Columbus.

Gregor: Craig MacTavish said that it’s time for bold moves. Is it fair to say that when a conversation like that comes up, you really have to do background checks and understand that the player you’re bringing in, not only is a good player on the ice, but has to be somebody that will fit into the locker room? How much background research did you do when you pulled off that Rick Nash trade?

Howson: We did a lot. You talk to a lot of people. There’s so much movement in this game. There’s always somebody that somebody knows that you can talk to. It’s not just talking to one person; it’s talking to three, four, five people and getting as many insights as you can into people. Having said that, people react differently to different situations.

You’ve just got to do your homework. You’ve got to bring in all the knowledge and information you can and then you make the best decision possible at the time. Nobody’s always right in this business. It’s a tough business. You’ve got to be right, we’re paid to be right and we’re going to make sure that we’re certainly more right than wrong.

OUTSIDER VIEWPOINT

Gregor: You have watched the Oilers as an opponent for the last few years. Give me your assessment of this team. Let’s start with what you think are the keys, the main focal points, moving forward that you like about the make-up of the Oilers right now.

Howson: Well, we have the most difficult thing to acquire; we have the top end, young talent. That’s the hardest thing to acquire. This game is coached so well and people defend so well, the goaltending keeps getting better, it’s hard to score, it’s hard to create offence, it’s hard to generate chances. When you’re talking about players like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Sam Gagner, and we certainly hope Nail Yakupov, you’re talking about high-end skill that all teams need and require to win. I think it starts there. I don’t think there’s any doubt we have to bring in more competitive people and keep raising the competitive level. This league is so hard to win in, it takes special people to do it and it takes competitive people to do it.

Gregor: Let’s go into that a little bit more- “competitive people.” What’s your definition of a competitive player in the NHL?

Howson: A player who is strong on the puck, wants the puck, will do everything he can to keep the puck, and really, really cares about winning.

Gregor: How do you assess that?

Howson: You can see it on the ice. You can see it in body language, you can see, certainly, hardness on the puck and strong on the puck. You can see by doing your scouting and watching video.

Gregor: When you were scouting the last few months or few weeks, what were you looking at when you were scouting?

Howson: I did a lot of college scouting. I would say I spent the bulk of my time watching college hockey. This was a very busy time for college hockey. You had the league championship tournaments, you had the regional tournaments and then you had the frozen four last weekend in Pittsburgh, which I was at. There were a number of free agents we were interested in. Some of them we were in on the bidding, we didn’t have any success this time, but we saw some players that we liked and we went after them.

BLUELINE....


Gregor: You talked about the competitive players that you need. What about building the blue line for the Edmonton Oilers? Building the back end might be the hardest thing to do, other than acquiring that top- end skill level. Discuss the blue line and the type of players you think you need on the back end.

Howson: Ya, I think you’re right. No team is going to win in this league without a strong defence. I think that’s an area where we have to improve and I think we’re going to improve. If you look at the players, I can tell you as an outsider, if you look at the players coming up the pipeline in the Oilers’ system, they are coming.

It’s such a hard position to play; you can’t expect it to be much immediate help. But when you’re talking Oscar Klefbom, he’s a world class player for his age level. Martin Gernat, David Musil, there’s a lot of good, young defencemen that are coming. We’ve just got to make sure that we’re patient with them, we put them in places where they succeed, we don’t rush them, and when they’re ready they’ll be part of a very good Oilers’ defence.

Gregor: It is the one position you don’t want to rush. Klefbom is maybe the only one who has a chance to play next year. Martin Marincin, Musil, Gernat, those guys are two, three years down the road. You look at what Pittsburgh did, moving a guy like Joe Morrow for an established NHL player. Do you see moving one of them because you can’t win with all kids; you need to have some proven guys in the mix?

Howson: Ya, when you have depth at a position like this, you can consider that. Look, we’re going to consider all opportunities that come our way. We’re not going to hang up the phone on anything. We’re going to deliberate and debate and talk about it. But if you do have a position of strength, it’s an area where you can deplete that a little bit to strengthen another area where you’re in a position of weakness.

Gregor: Can you define exactly what your role will be with the Oilers moving forward?

Howson: I think it’s going to evolve here, certainly in the initial discussion. I’m going to bring what I learned in Columbus and we’re going to implement some of the structure I had there, some of the systems and policies we’re going to talk about. Then it’s just helping Craig in whatever area I can. I’m sure it will involve a little bit in the amateur side. It will certainly involve the development side; it will involve the college free agent side, and the pro side. So it’s not going to be just one thing, it’s going to be a lot of things. I can’t wait to get started.

Gregor: How do you feel you’ll be different as a regime this time, compared to beforehand? What has changed about the game and what have you guys learned collectively that can make you better?

Howson : Well I think we all have different experiences than we had six or seven years ago. I’ve been a General Manager in the league; I think that’s an invaluable experience to any organization. You look at what Craig MacTavish has done; he’s got his MBA, which is quite a feat. I think it expands your horizons when do something outside of the hockey world.

We become very narrow-minded in this game because all we think about his hockey. So he had the opportunity to go and expand himself. He’s gone to another organization. That’s another advantage that we both have. We have both been in another organization and seen how things operate outside of Edmonton. For me, this is where I grew up. This is all I knew. Now I know a little bit more. I think we’re broader. Obviously as you gain experience, hopefully you learn and you get smarter.

WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED...

Gregor: Can you go into anything specific that you learned from the Columbus organization, that you felt you lacked the first time here, that you’d like to bring in to the Edmonton organization now?

Howson: I’d prefer not to get into anything specific. I’d really have to think about the question. This business is about people and about trust and about good people, smart people, and people that have good eye. Craig said it well, I think in the press conference, the most important thing we can do is find players and bring players here. That’s our job and that’s what we’re going to do.

Gregor: When you looked back on your time in Columbus, was there one thing you looked back and said, ‘I’ve really learned from this and in the future I wouldn’t do it again.’?

Howson: I think you have to be careful with free agency. I think it’s a dangerous animal. I’m not saying it should be ignored, because I really think you can add to your team in it. When you get to the free agent market, you overpay and you overpay in terms of salary, and you usually overpay in terms of term. Those things can set your team back.

Gregor: Do you think it’s better off then, trying to negotiate a trade with another GM? Even though it may be harder, you may not end up with an albatross of a contract as far as length and term?

Howson: Ya, I think at times that’s certainly an option. It should get a look if we’re going to explore everything. There’s a time for free agency and there’s a time to pull back and be patient. We’re going to deal with a market this summer where the cap comes down, so there’s going to probably be less money available in the system. It might be a time this year where it’s more of a buyer’s market, we’ll see. I know the trend certainly has been, and it’s trending this way this year, a lot of the good players get signed. We’ll see what the compliance buyout market brings and then we’ll go from there.

Gregor: Did anything change in your philosophy that you had when you went there, but now that you’ve come back you look at differently?

Howson: I think you realize how hard it is when you sit in the GM chair and how difficult this is. It looks easy from the outside at times. It is a difficult business, it’s a difficult position. It’s a wonderful position and as I said many times before, it’s a privilege to be a General Manager in this league. What have I learned? I’ve learned that you’ve got to be assertive, you’ve got to be aggressive, and that you’ve got to make sure you do your homework.

WRAP UP

It will be interesting to see how Howson and MacTavish re-shape this organization. Klefbom is clearly their best prospect not in the NHL, and every scout that I've talked to recently believes he'll play in the NHL next year. The key will be bringing in at least one proven veteran D-man to augment this D corps. That has to be priority number one.

The "free agency can be a dangerous animal," comment caught my attention. I'm guessing he is referring to James Wisniewski. I doubt the Oilers shy away from free agency, but they will be more diligent in deciding on how to sign. They can't afford another summer like 2011.

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#51 DSF
April 17 2013, 07:48PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

you are correct. they are 4 points behind the conference champion contending with 60 home playoff dates over the next 10 years minnesota wild.

That is correct.

Behind.

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#52 Gaz
April 17 2013, 07:52PM
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@Walter Sobchak

Some days this site is just ludicrous. If any other team signed him, everyone would be whining that the Oilers aren't proactive enough in going after college free agents.

Give it a rest.

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#53 Gaz
April 17 2013, 07:55PM
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@DSF

So when Minnesota doesn't win the cup this year (they won't) - it'll be for a whole host of reasons, none of which are because the team just wasn't good enough?

Ditto for Vancouver.

Didn't you dry hump Dale Tallon for a while? What's the reasoning behind his tough year?

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#54 OilersBrass
April 17 2013, 08:04PM
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Gaz wrote:

Some days this site is just ludicrous. If any other team signed him, everyone would be whining that the Oilers aren't proactive enough in going after college free agents.

Give it a rest.

Welcome to Oilers Nation! Where most posters think they are real GM's, and nobody understands sarcasm! Enjoy your stay!

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#55 Gaz
April 17 2013, 08:07PM
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@OilersBrass

Sarcasm is the lowest form of humour, and does not translate to the written word. He wasn't being sarcastic, but you're clearly on your game!

TSN reports up to 15 teams were after this kid.

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#56 Gaz
April 17 2013, 08:08PM
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@Gaz

Tomorrow we will talk about irony as a literary device.

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#57 DSF
April 17 2013, 08:15PM
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Gaz wrote:

So when Minnesota doesn't win the cup this year (they won't) - it'll be for a whole host of reasons, none of which are because the team just wasn't good enough?

Ditto for Vancouver.

Didn't you dry hump Dale Tallon for a while? What's the reasoning behind his tough year?

1) From 12th in the WC to the cup in one off season might be a little much to expect but any team that makes the playoffs has a chance. (see 2006)

2) See above

3) Team was, and is, devastated by numerous injuries including its entire top line. Pretty rough to be successful under those circumstances.

The only teams that don't have a chance are those that can't make the playoffs and the Oilers now have the longest run of consecutive seasons out of the playoffs.

It's quite sad, actually.

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#58 Gaz
April 17 2013, 08:20PM
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@DSF

1) Come on. Don't hedge your bets. You've been promoting them all season long now, you should be ready to step up and support them, however it ends.

2) Vancouver was 12th last year? Haven't they been "contenders" for three years now?

3) To play from your book: every team deals with injuries. Good managers pivot and roll.

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#59 Dave
April 17 2013, 08:33PM
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Jason Gregor feels that that the decision on whether to keep Smyth will be a hard decision. Not in my books. They never should have signed Smyth to a two year contract in the first place.

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#60 DSF
April 17 2013, 08:39PM
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Gaz wrote:

1) Come on. Don't hedge your bets. You've been promoting them all season long now, you should be ready to step up and support them, however it ends.

2) Vancouver was 12th last year? Haven't they been "contenders" for three years now?

3) To play from your book: every team deals with injuries. Good managers pivot and roll.

I've thought since the beginning of the season that St. Louis will come out of the WC.

Doesn't mean Minnesota isn't well on its way to being an elite team. As good as the current team is, their prospect pool is among the best in hockey.

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#61 Tyler
April 17 2013, 09:15PM
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Am I alone in hoping to Oilers LOSE every game for the rest of the season? Get a better pick. Do better next year.

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#62 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 17 2013, 10:38PM
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Tyler wrote:

Am I alone in hoping to Oilers LOSE every game for the rest of the season? Get a better pick. Do better next year.

Quite the contrary, most everybody including Oiler management is thinking the exact same thing.

27th and MacT wins us the lotto!

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#63 Fresh Mess
April 17 2013, 10:42PM
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Dave wrote:

Jason Gregor feels that that the decision on whether to keep Smyth will be a hard decision. Not in my books. They never should have signed Smyth to a two year contract in the first place.

You want to see something funny? Go back and read the legions on here last summer saying the Oilers should give Smyth 3.5-4 million per year for 3 years. There were many. I wonder how many of them will admit it now.

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#64 DSF
April 17 2013, 10:49PM
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Columbus wins to take over 8th.

Who knew?

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#65 DSF
April 17 2013, 10:50PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Quite the contrary, most everybody including Oiler management is thinking the exact same thing.

27th and MacT wins us the lotto!

I have a feeling Bettman will "lose" the Oilers lottery balls before the draw.

4 times in 4 years would be a little much.

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#66 DSF
April 17 2013, 10:51PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

You want to see something funny? Go back and read the legions on here last summer saying the Oilers should give Smyth 3.5-4 million per year for 3 years. There were many. I wonder how many of them will admit it now.

Probably the same guys who thought the Horcoff, Khabibulin and Hemsky contracts were good ones.

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#67 Reach Advantage
April 18 2013, 01:30AM
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So very glad to hear him say that they would not rush the prospects and put them in positions to succeed. Music!

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#68 Curcro
April 18 2013, 01:32AM
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DSF wrote:

Probably the same guys who thought the Horcoff, Khabibulin and Hemsky contracts were good ones.

Smyth should have been on 1 year contracts. Horcoff was an overpay. Khabibulin was stupid.

Hemsky's is what it needed to be to retain his services. I actually think that Hemsky's contract was fine. He was make $5.0M in the last year of his previous contract so to get him at the same rate is hardly a bad contract. May not be a "good" contract.

So in order of OK to BAD Hemsky Horcoff Smyth Khabibulin

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#69 jdubbs
April 18 2013, 07:58AM
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i still find it very hard to to believe that a guy can play only 60 odd games in three years and then step into the NHL.(Klefbom) it probably would be the first time in history....

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#70 Spydyr
April 18 2013, 08:04AM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Quite the contrary, most everybody including Oiler management is thinking the exact same thing.

27th and MacT wins us the lotto!

Hope he knows someone with a lucky tie he can borrow.

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#71 Benhur
April 18 2013, 08:58AM
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I'm pretty skeptical of the scouts and sportswriters optimisim about Klefbom. His injury history does not bode well. He might be a piece that you move in a package for a gritty talented centre or top 2 D-man.

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#72 Benhur
April 18 2013, 09:07AM
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It appears Howson hasn't learned much in his stint at Columbus according to this interview except on how to avoid a question.

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#73 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 18 2013, 09:09AM
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DSF wrote:

I have a feeling Bettman will "lose" the Oilers lottery balls before the draw.

4 times in 4 years would be a little much.

Agreed, but it would go to prove that the draft isn't fixed though, right?

Heck, we hate our Oilers most days. Why not give the rest of the league even more of a reason to hate on them. Have to hand it to Tambellini, he sure succeeded beyond managements expectations going into and coming out of this rebuild. Possibly 4 firsts in a row, Steve could've just set the new benchmark for rebuilding teams to shoot for.

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#74 madjam
April 18 2013, 09:54AM
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After this season most seem very apprehensive about even the value of our youth and first round picks - bordering on disappointment. Enthusiasm going in same direction as team has gone - downward . This season fans seem at an all time low . Can management turn the corner now former GM is gone , and win back many disillusioned and disgruntled fans ? The koolaid stops (rhetoric) and the results go positive ? Fans wait with curiosity and a balance of pessimism and baited(reserved) optimism . Miller shows they are active at least .

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#75 ghostofberanek
April 18 2013, 10:00AM
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DSF wrote:

Know what?

Isn't Arcobello already filling that role?

Ohh, right I forgot. All undersized forwards are exactly the same. Also, who needs Chara because we already have Marincin right?

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#76 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:19AM
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Marincin = Chara?

Right.

The Oilers just signed a 24 year old 5'10" 180 player who had a nice season in the NCAA (37GP 18G 27A 41P) but has never played a game of pro hockey.

Recently, they gave away a 25 year old 5'10" 180 player who also had a nice final season in the NCAA (38GP 25G 26A 51P) but has some NHL games under his belt.

452GP 82G 112A 194P IN THE NHL.

His name is Andrew Cogliano and you'll find him playing centre/wing and killing penalties for the division leading Anaheim Ducks.

Worth noting that he's on pace for 23G 20A 43P this season.

Baffling isn't it?

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#77 Bucknuck
April 18 2013, 10:28AM
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Picking my spots here Bucky, but how'd our No.1 goaltender Dubnyk do last night? I'm sure he did much better than Khabibulin would've. Did he improve on his statith-tics?

Letting in five goals on 30 shots didn't do his stats any favours, that is for sure, but even after that crappy game (and that monster terrible one against SJ early in the season) his numbers look better than any goalie we have had since Rollie the Goalie.

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#78 Gaz
April 18 2013, 11:16AM
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@DSF

Please do not make us believe you were supportive of Cogliano while he was here. It just won't be believed.

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#79 ghostofberanek
April 18 2013, 11:32AM
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@DSF

Yeah, I'm sure you were a huge supporter of Cogs when he was here too, right? I'm sure your division leading Ducks would have kept Gagner over Cogs too.

My point was (as I obviously have to spell it out for you), that not all physically similar players are, in fact, similar. I used Marincin because he's the closest guy in height to Chara I could think of in the system. You can (and will) find all the negatives you want, but the simple fact is, you've never seen this guy play.

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#80 DSF
April 18 2013, 11:34AM
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Gaz wrote:

Please do not make us believe you were supportive of Cogliano while he was here. It just won't be believed.

Believe whatever you like.

I was always a huge fan of Cogliano's speed and competitiveness.

That he is now rounding into a valuable NHL player is no surprise to me.

Giving him away for virtually nothing was monumentally stupid.

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#81 DSF
April 18 2013, 11:47AM
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ghostofberanek wrote:

Yeah, I'm sure you were a huge supporter of Cogs when he was here too, right? I'm sure your division leading Ducks would have kept Gagner over Cogs too.

My point was (as I obviously have to spell it out for you), that not all physically similar players are, in fact, similar. I used Marincin because he's the closest guy in height to Chara I could think of in the system. You can (and will) find all the negatives you want, but the simple fact is, you've never seen this guy play.

There was never any need to choose Cogliano over Gagner.

The Ducks use him as 2/3rd line winger and penalty killer.

I would think he is a huge upgrade on the stiffs like Petrell and Jones that the Oilers use in that role.

I have seen Marincin play plenty.

Meh.

At Marincin's age, Chara already had 84 NHL games under his belt.

Marincin may be an NHL player someday but I would think his upside is second pairing at the very best.

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#82 ghostofberanek
April 18 2013, 12:03PM
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@DSF

My apologies for not being clearer, but I was referring to the Miller kid whom you hadn't seen play, not Marincin.

When Cogliano was in Edmonton, we had too many smallish forwards at the time. Cogliano was very definitely the odd man out at the time, and I've found Jones (with the exception of this year) a big upgrade on the wing. He also has put up close to 20 goals a year and is steady on the pk.

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#83 DSF
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ghostofberanek wrote:

My apologies for not being clearer, but I was referring to the Miller kid whom you hadn't seen play, not Marincin.

When Cogliano was in Edmonton, we had too many smallish forwards at the time. Cogliano was very definitely the odd man out at the time, and I've found Jones (with the exception of this year) a big upgrade on the wing. He also has put up close to 20 goals a year and is steady on the pk.

Oh, okay...I haven't seen him play.

My point is that Miller, who is not a kid, he's 24, is in no way an upgrade on Cogliano based on the evidence we have.

Jones isn't much of an upgrade on anything as Cogliano has also put up close to 20 goals several times and is an effective PK'er.

Cogliano also leads the Ducks in EV goals with 11 which is quite an accomplishment when you consider the Ducks forward group.

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#84 ghostofberanek
April 18 2013, 12:30PM
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@DSF

Cogs is definitely having a career year, I'll give you that. When he was here, he was largely ineffective though. He had wheels, but his hands couldn't keep up. He couldn't win a faceoff to save his life, and he never found a role on this team. I'm sure being on the Ducks third line right now is allowing him to play without having all that pressure to produce. Kudos to Boudreau as well for finding a role for him that works.

I just don't think it's fair for people to say that Miller is "just another small forward who signed with the Oilers". From what I hear, 15 other teams were going hard after him, so there must be something useful to his game. Cheers!

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#85 DSF
April 18 2013, 12:50PM
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ghostofberanek wrote:

Cogs is definitely having a career year, I'll give you that. When he was here, he was largely ineffective though. He had wheels, but his hands couldn't keep up. He couldn't win a faceoff to save his life, and he never found a role on this team. I'm sure being on the Ducks third line right now is allowing him to play without having all that pressure to produce. Kudos to Boudreau as well for finding a role for him that works.

I just don't think it's fair for people to say that Miller is "just another small forward who signed with the Oilers". From what I hear, 15 other teams were going hard after him, so there must be something useful to his game. Cheers!

If Cogliano hit the market as a UFA, I'm sure there would be at least 15 teams interested.

In his final year with the Oilers, he was played on the 3rd line with a bunch of useless pluggers so it's no surprise he struggled.

Faceoffs certainly were never his strong suit but you might want to check out Gagner's and Hopkins' and I would imagine that's why the Ducks play him on the wing.

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#86 Gaz
April 18 2013, 01:26PM
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@DSF

Your point?

According to TSN (who I will go ahead and trust) there were at least 15 teams interested in Miller.

Oh, and Miller didn't have one good year - look at his career NCAA stats. Good prospect.

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#87 Curcro
April 18 2013, 08:47PM
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DSF wrote:

If Cogliano hit the market as a UFA, I'm sure there would be at least 15 teams interested.

In his final year with the Oilers, he was played on the 3rd line with a bunch of useless pluggers so it's no surprise he struggled.

Faceoffs certainly were never his strong suit but you might want to check out Gagner's and Hopkins' and I would imagine that's why the Ducks play him on the wing.

I would suggest that at least some of Cogliano's success is due to his off-season work.

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/academy/soccer/Posture+where+begins+Andrew+Cogliano+Anaheim+Ducks/7545251/story.html

Further he is shooting lights out 19.0% this year. It is likely that shooting percentage will take a dip. If you take away that

His defense has improved so that he is a more valuable contributor than when with the Oilers.

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April 18 2013, 11:57PM
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Benhur wrote:

It appears Howson hasn't learned much in his stint at Columbus according to this interview except on how to avoid a question.

totally agree

worst interview ever

he's a lawyer though so it's an occupational hazard

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