THE EDMONTON EXPRESS

Lowetide
April 18 2013 09:03PM

As the end of a brilliant, trying season nears its end, the American Hockey League gave out the first of what should be several awards to young Oiler Justin Schultz. The "Eddie Shore" Award--named after the "Edmonton Express"--has never been given to a rookie defender before this season.

Schultz was outstanding in OKC, with 18 goals and 30 assists in just 34 games, topped off with a plus-8 rating. His performance in Edmonton after the lockout ended was very strong, but the long season and those 30 minute AHL games have taken their toll. Here's Schultz numbers by month:

  • January: 7, 3-2-5 +2
  • February: 12, 3-4-7 -6
  • March: 15, 0-4-4 -7
  • April: 8, 1-4-5 -6

Schultz is -15 since Valentine's Day and his game has become wildly inconsistent. As talented as this young man clearly is, the offseason can't come soon enough.

IS THERE A CONCERN?

Playing NHL defense when everything is right is hard enough, playing on an empty tank must be a very difficult thing to do. Schultz has played big minutes all year long (21:33 a night in Edmonton, my bet is much more in OKC) and has remained healthy and from this angle there's been a lot of try.

The learning curve, the longer season, playing on a team that is struggling too--it all adds up to a tough finish to an outstanding rookie season. All things considered, the future looks bright.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

Looking back, perhaps Schultz TOI should have been monitored more closely when he was in the AHL, but that's quibbling. The coach played his best and surely Eddie Shore would have loved the big minutes from the rookie. And maybe that's what we should take away from this season--the Shore award is awarded to the AHL's best defenseman--full stop.

Justin Schultz showed he belongs in the NHL--and that at least part of this season was an education. No sin there, that's what rookie seasons are for, to learn on the job.

I think Justin Schultz is the best young defenseman to land in Edmonton in a long long time, and worthy of an award named after the original Edmonton Express, Eddie Shore.

High praise indeed.

C2a6955161684b5e3189319acfa5ebe4
Lowetide has been one of the Oilogosphere's shining lights for over a century. You can check him out here at OilersNation and at lowetide.ca. He is also the host of Lowdown with Lowetide weekday mornings 10-noon on Team 1260.
Avatar
#1 Pajamah
April 18 2013, 09:41PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
7
cheers
DSF wrote:

Jonas Brodin, who is 3 years younger than Schultz, plays 23:08 per game and is +7 to Schultz's -17.

Justin Schultz is Jack Johnson.

Lots of PP production and a terrible adventure at evens.

Way to cherry pick stats Troll.

Brodin also plays with some 90 million dollar defenseman , perhaps you've heard of Ryan Suter.

No, but of course you're right, Brodin is far better, because plus/minus is completely an individual stat, and completely indicative of a career path.

Seriously, crawl on top of that bridge you live under, and jump

Avatar
#2 GVBlackhawk
April 18 2013, 09:49PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
6
cheers
DSF wrote:

Jonas Brodin, who is 3 years younger than Schultz, plays 23:08 per game and is +7 to Schultz's -17.

Justin Schultz is Jack Johnson.

Lots of PP production and a terrible adventure at evens.

This is a troll attempt. You are not looking at the entire picture here.

One of, if not THE most crucial factors in performance, is WHO you play with.

From HockeyAnalysis:

Do not ignore Quality of Teammates

"I have just told you to pretty much ignore quality of competition and zone starts, what about quality of teammates? Well, to put it simply, do not ignore them. Quality of teammates matters and matters a lot. Sticking with the Vancouver Canucks, lets use Alex Burrows as an example. Burrows mostly plays with the Sedin twins but has played on Kesler’s line a bit too. Over the past 3 seasons he has played about 77.9% of his ice time with H. Sedin and about 12.3% of his ice time with Ryan Kesler and the reminder with Malhotra and others. Burrow’s offensive production is significantly better when playing with H. Sedin as 88.7% of his goals and 87.2% of his points came during the 77.9% ice time he played with H. Sedin. If Burrows played 100% of his ice time with H. Sedin and produced at the same rate he would have scored 6 (9.7%) more goals and 13 (11%) more 5v5 points over the past 3 seasons. This is far more significant than the 2.3% boost H. Sedin saw from all his offensive zone starts and I am not certain my Burrows example is the most extreme example in the NHL. How many more points would an average 3rd line get if they played mostly with H. Sedin instead of the average 3rd liner. Who you play with matters a lot. You can’t look at Tyler Bozak’s decent point totals and conclude he is a decent player without considering he plays a lot with Kessel and Lupul, two very good offensive players".

Brodin plays mostly with Ryan Suter, one of the best defensemen in the NHL. Justin Schultz played most of his minutes with Nick Schultz, then Ryan Whitney.

I won't even go into the fact that Minnesota plays a much better defensive system than the one implemented by RK.

I will go into the fact that Jack Johnson has never posted solid defensive or possession numbers. JSchultz on the other hand, just turned in a solid AHL season, and was a "plus" player in Wisconsin. This is the first real spanking he's ever taken in his own zone.

I will go into the fact that (unsurprisingly) you are using a very small sample size to judge JSchultz. Jack Johnson has an established track record to form a valid opinion on.

Avatar
#3 Sailge
April 19 2013, 12:32AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
6
cheers

DSF comments on here morning, noon and night.

And he hates the Oilers.

Wow

Avatar
#4 Todd
April 19 2013, 08:00AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
6
cheers

RE: DSF

I wish I had more time to waste, cause then I'd make a site called "sh!tDSFsays.com". It would be a real hit....

Not sure why people keeping feeding him, but the guy is ALL OVER THE MAP. When you make 1000 disparaging remarks eventually some come true. Some don't. DSF likes to bring up the ones that pan out, and forget all his sh1t that doesn't. I actually appreciate him because its entertaining. I spent 30 seconds and found this gem of a thread where DSF hijacks a thread much like this and argues how smart Dale Tallon is, and how the Panthers are "miles ahead" of the Oilers failed rebuild.

http://oilersnation.com/2012/6/17/dale-tallon-things-get-worse-before-they-get-better

You'd have a hay day if you wanted to summarize all of his conflicting statements, failed predictions and over the top comments. He is just full of piss and vinegar... Hopefully 12 months from now we'll all be able to laugh about how negative he is when this team is preparing for a playoff run.

My favorite is still DSF arguing all last summer and again as recent as a few weeks ago that Yakupov was not the best player in the draft, and that Peter Mueller is (and still is) a better player. Classic.

#sh!tDSFsays

Avatar
#5 Mikey
April 18 2013, 09:31PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
5
cheers
DSF wrote:

Jonas Brodin, who is 3 years younger than Schultz, plays 23:08 per game and is +7 to Schultz's -17.

Justin Schultz is Jack Johnson.

Lots of PP production and a terrible adventure at evens.

He also only has 10 points. On a higher scoring team. He is what they call a defensive D-man. Justin is what they call a offensive D-man.

Avatar
#6 @Oilanderp
April 19 2013, 08:34AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
5
cheers

Wow, another perfectly good article completely ruined by Deliberate Stats Fudger. So annoying to have to fast forward 75% of the posts. So. Annoying.

Every week I drift further and further from this site.

Avatar
#7 GVBlackhawk
April 19 2013, 12:07AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
4
cheers
DSF wrote:

Point is, Burrows doesn't need to play with the best to be an actual NHL player who can keep his head above water.

Kesler was 23.

As for Junior, I'm not sure what you think "great offensive numbers" are.

Erik Karlsson put up 78 points as a 21 year old.

In that ballpark?

Karlsson won the Norris trophy. He put up the best offensive numbers for a Dman in years. That's your measuring stick?

Don't be Such a Fool.

Avatar
#8 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 19 2013, 06:57AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
4
cheers

hahahaha

you guys are hilarious.

another day, another meaningless, contextless, malicious player comparison!

who could have guessed?

Thing is... there is no information gained by this exercise.

Back to the subject:

Schultz is awesome. This kid is going to very good, for a very long time. I'm delighted to have him. Can't wait to watch him mature.

Avatar
#9 Spydyr
April 19 2013, 09:31AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
4
cheers

Of the 71 comments before this one 41 were either by or to DSF.

It has ruined the comments section.Please stop feeding the troll.

This is Oilers Nation not DSF nation.

Avatar
#10 westcoastoil
April 19 2013, 09:38AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
3
cheers
Spydyr wrote:

Of the 71 comments before this one 41 were either by or to DSF.

It has ruined the comments section.Please stop feeding the troll.

This is Oilers Nation not DSF nation.

amen

Avatar
#11 Eddie Shore
April 18 2013, 10:08PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

@DSF

Switch Brodin and Schultz in their respective situations and ask yourself if their play/numbers are affected... Good grief.

Avatar
#12 Oiler Al
April 18 2013, 10:36PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

Lets give DSF a break, he has never been the same since he found out his parents left him on someone's door step and switched him for a box of kittens.

Avatar
#13 Slats
April 18 2013, 10:43PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers
DSF wrote:

Point is, Burrows doesn't need to play with the best to be an actual NHL player who can keep his head above water.

Kesler was 23.

As for Junior, I'm not sure what you think "great offensive numbers" are.

Erik Karlsson put up 78 points as a 21 year old.

In that ballpark?

That's some awesome cherry pick there from a Brodin comparison to Karlsson - WOW that was whopper even for you.

Why stop there . . . .heck there was a 22 year old who was +124 and had 139 pts his name was Bobby Orr - Schulz Jr. should switch sports I guess . . .

What a DA.

Avatar
#14 Todd
April 19 2013, 08:18AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

@Todd

"I would suggest we follow the Panthers trajectory" - DSF, June 12, 2012

Avatar
#15 Rama Lama
April 19 2013, 09:25AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

There once was a troll who lived under a dark, damp, old bridge. There was a path under the bridge which was used as a short cut by many from an adjacent village.

Each and ever day the people using the path complained to the town master about a nasty smelly troll who would steal their food, and grab what ever he could. The town master was confused, as he too lived in the same village and used the same path, except when it came to crossing the bridge he would go over and not under it. He told all the village people about his short cut over the bridge and the problem was solved.

The moral of the story is if you want to avoid a troll, then stop feeding it by avoiding it!

BTW the poor old troll soon became hungry and moved to another bridge.........his name was DSF.

Avatar
#16 Pucker - B class
April 19 2013, 12:02PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
2
cheers

geezus you guys! Why do you even reply to DSF?? It just wrecks the thread.

This is just ridiculous. Let him make his comments and move on.

Avatar
#17 DrunkGuyTy
April 18 2013, 09:11PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

He made a helluva jump this year and held his own for the most part. He's only going to get better.

Avatar
#18 horndog77
April 18 2013, 09:23PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

Imagine if Edmonton could trade up for Seth jones! It looks like their headed for a top five pick and they sure have a lot of trade bait. Schultz and jones sounds good to me

Avatar
#19 GVBlackhawk
April 18 2013, 10:13PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers
DSF wrote:

I wasn't the one trumpeting Schultz as the second coming of Christ.

Fact is, he's been dreadful defensively this season.

You can blame that on his defensive partners, the coaches system or the lame excuse that he's "tired" but the evidence is that he can't play defense to save his life.

Just a quick note:

Alex Burrows had a a 25 goal season BEFORE he played with the Sedins.

He's probably not going to be the best defenseman in the league. But he will put up great offensive numbers and become a reasonable defensive player in time. That's still a great trade-off, imo.

You are correct -- Burrows scored 25 goals before he played with the Sedins. He played with this hack named Bryan Kesler or something, who put up 26G and 33A that season.

The point still stands.

Avatar
#20 Supernova
April 18 2013, 10:22PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers
Time Travelling Sean wrote:

J Schultz looks lazy in his own zone, no one is going to deny that, but he is a rookie. This is what rookie seasons are for. How many players peak during their rookie seasons? Esp defensemen?

Brodin is a good D-man, playing with a very good D-man in a very structured, established system suited for D-men.

Also being tired isn't a lame excuse, from 40 games a season against college players to 78 games playing 20-25 minutes a night against professionals, it does take adjusting, look at Conacher, 18 points in his first 20 games, then 7 in the next 20. He played in 36 AHL games before the NHL season started.

Excellent point

The system is the main thing that separates the two, then style of play, add in quality of teammates.

I will take Schultz over Brodin at this point and I suspect that will be the case in a few years as well.

Not sure why everyone gets riled up by DSF.

He is controversy machine on almost every new post. Which gets old.

The devils's advocate, just ignore him and he will go away.

Avatar
#21 Rod from Viking
April 18 2013, 10:27PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

@DSF

In 06-07 Bieksa at 25 years old was minus 11 in 34 games with the Canucks a lot better team than the 2013 Oilers, his combined +/- in 3 years at Bowling Green was -40,I would say he turned into a pretty good d-man. I know you do this crap just to get people riled up but don't you have something better to do? By the way an eagle is a glorified buzzard that lives on things that was killed by something else(perfect moniker)

Avatar
#22 bored
April 18 2013, 10:43PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

I think Brodin is a stud...Would love him on the Oilers. I also really like what I saw from JS, he makes me happy.

Comparing them is stupid. You would have to be blind to not be excited to have either one on your team. Knowing how good Crosby is doesn't make Hall any less good.

That being said, he's definitely not perfect. He may be Jack Johnson today, but I feel like with his hockey IQ and natural ability, his ceiling is Sergei Zubov who just happened to OWN the Oilers for a very long time.

Avatar
#23 Citizen David
April 18 2013, 11:04PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

@DSF

"But not as hard as when he compared Sam Gagner to Doug Gilmour...I peed myself...and it wasn't planned "

You might want to get that checked out.

Avatar
#24 Eddie Shore
April 19 2013, 08:29AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers
Todd wrote:

"I would suggest we follow the Panthers trajectory" - DSF, June 12, 2012

For context:

FLORIDA 43 13 24 6 32 10 102 153 -51

EDMONTON 42 16 19 7 39 14 106 120 -14

Sorry for the horrible formatting, but you can figure it out.

Avatar
#25 CaptainLander
April 19 2013, 08:54AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

Schultz could get 120 points a season, be a plus 80, win a bunch of Stanley cups and Norris trophies and DSF would still rip into him because of the way he ties his skates. Haters gonna hate.

Nothing wrong with Schultz's first year in the NHL.

Avatar
#26 pelhem grenville
April 19 2013, 09:20AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

... our very own liability...what must other sites think of us allowing such a thing like having a resident troll...you've allowed him to be that to the detriment of our OilersNation site...soooooooooooooo just once...if it's at ALL possible...let the creature hijack a thread as you've all been saying since he arrived...hijack it and no one reply...no one...just once

come on sheeple...can you do that? once...?

imo Wanye should have pet troll t-shirts being marketed by ON...or have a photoshop contest immortizing all trolls including his nibs...

Avatar
#27 DieHard
April 19 2013, 12:56PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
1
cheers

I enjoy reading all the comments. I had to stop at #36. I couldn't care less to read any more DSF and and responses. On to the next article.

Avatar
#28 DSF
April 18 2013, 09:21PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Jonas Brodin, who is 3 years younger than Schultz, plays 23:08 per game and is +7 to Schultz's -17.

Justin Schultz is Jack Johnson.

Lots of PP production and a terrible adventure at evens.

Avatar
#29 GVBlackhawk
April 18 2013, 09:28PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

It's such a rare phenomenon to see a young Oilers player get thrown to the wolves the way he has this season......

I think his minutes should have been tempered in the NHL, rather than in the AHL. If the Oilers would have had a competent top 4 on defense, they could have sheltered JSchultz. Playing against opposition dregs, along with top PP minutes would have suited him well; he is definitely burnt out at this point.

He is a fantastic young player who will only get better defensively. His positioning needs work and his ability to defend against the cycle is quite poor. However, a smart player like him can improve positioning rather quickly. In addition, his maturing physique should help him to engage physically along the boards, which will markedly improve his effectiveness.

Avatar
#30 Jay Gray
April 18 2013, 09:33PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

For many years I owned one Oiler jersey, it has 99 on the back.

This year I added a 19 to the stable, got mad love for J. Schultz.

And he was great in Super Troopers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWXw8hZHKsE

Avatar
#31 DSF
April 18 2013, 09:35PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Mikey wrote:

He also only has 10 points. On a higher scoring team. He is what they call a defensive D-man. Justin is what they call a offensive D-man.

Like Jack Johnson.

If you give everything back at evens that you score on the PP at even strength, you are not helping your team win.

Brodin has more EV strength points than Schultz.

Avatar
#32 DSF
April 18 2013, 09:48PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Pajamah wrote:

Way to cherry pick stats Troll.

Brodin also plays with some 90 million dollar defenseman , perhaps you've heard of Ryan Suter.

No, but of course you're right, Brodin is far better, because plus/minus is completely an individual stat, and completely indicative of a career path.

Seriously, crawl on top of that bridge you live under, and jump

Listen.

Performance matters.

Schultz is -17.

If you've watched any games recently he is an absolute disaster in his own end. (go check the game grades the Cult of Hockey guys hand out)

Way to defend a dreadful, defenseman Fanboy.

I have no reservations about saying Brodin will be a much better defenseman now and and in the future.

Brodin is 19...not 22.

Avatar
#33 oilman3
April 18 2013, 09:53PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
DSF wrote:

Jonas Brodin, who is 3 years younger than Schultz, plays 23:08 per game and is +7 to Schultz's -17.

Justin Schultz is Jack Johnson.

Lots of PP production and a terrible adventure at evens.

what a stupid comment. must be nice to be able to peg players so easily with such a small sample size. there's a reason everyone wanted this guy. the oilers have a lot of defensive deficiencies but this kid is a keeper and will only get better. if you love the wild so much why don't you spend your obvious surplus of free time hanging out on their sites? your constant need to regurgitate stats and rip on oiler players is ridiculous.

Avatar
#34 DSF
April 18 2013, 09:54PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@GVBlackhawk

I wasn't the one trumpeting Schultz as the second coming of Christ.

Fact is, he's been dreadful defensively this season.

You can blame that on his defensive partners, the coaches system or the lame excuse that he's "tired" but the evidence is that he can't play defense to save his life.

Just a quick note:

Alex Burrows had a a 25 goal season BEFORE he played with the Sedins.

Avatar
#35 clyde
April 18 2013, 09:54PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Schultz is going on 23 and has absolutely no idea how to play in his own zone, is very soft and only produces on the pp at this level. Well, at one point this season he produced on the pp.

Avatar
#36 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:02PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
clyde wrote:

Schultz is going on 23 and has absolutely no idea how to play in his own zone, is very soft and only produces on the pp at this level. Well, at one point this season he produced on the pp.

And then the opposition adjusted to the Oilers PP formation and he went right into the tank.

Schultz has ONE goal and 7 points in his last 20 games despite getting huge PP minutes.

Considering he is also -7 over that 20 game stretch, he is a liability not an an asset.

Avatar
#37 Time Travelling Sean
April 18 2013, 10:09PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@DSF

J Schultz looks lazy in his own zone, no one is going to deny that, but he is a rookie. This is what rookie seasons are for. How many players peak during their rookie seasons? Esp defensemen?

Brodin is a good D-man, playing with a very good D-man in a very structured, established system suited for D-men.

Also being tired isn't a lame excuse, from 40 games a season against college players to 78 games playing 20-25 minutes a night against professionals, it does take adjusting, look at Conacher, 18 points in his first 20 games, then 7 in the next 20. He played in 36 AHL games before the NHL season started.

Avatar
#38 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:13PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Eddie Shore wrote:

Switch Brodin and Schultz in their respective situations and ask yourself if their play/numbers are affected... Good grief.

Given Juniors' inability to play in his own end, the Wild wouldn't have him playing on the top pairing.

They have been healthy scratching Gilbert for the same reason and he's a better defenseman than Junior.

Avatar
#39 One cold Canadian
April 18 2013, 10:14PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

DSF What. A. Turd.

Avatar
#40 Cheap Shot Charlie
April 18 2013, 10:21PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@DSF

"I have no reservations about saying Brodin will be a much better defenseman now and and in the future."

Is that like how you have no reservations in saying Florida and Minnesota are 2 of the best teams in the league? Or that Seguin is a country mile better than Hall? Or how (insert 75% of your predictions here)?

You're so cute how you like to tease! I love you man! *HUG*

Avatar
#41 Fantheoilman
April 18 2013, 10:22PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

I think Schultz is coming along fine. Considering how bad the team is, how bad his partners are, and how ridiculous RK's systems are he has done well inspite of all of this. DSF maybe it's time you got a boy friend (or girlfriend) and stop being a D-bag. Get out of your basement, take off your rosé coloured glasses and stop harassing oiler fans. I personally would read ON more if you disappeared. But as for Shultz it is kinda hard to have great stats when the team around you has quit playing.

Avatar
#42 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:23PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
GVBlackhawk wrote:

He's probably not going to be the best defenseman in the league. But he will put up great offensive numbers and become a reasonable defensive player in time. That's still a great trade-off, imo.

You are correct -- Burrows scored 25 goals before he played with the Sedins. He played with this hack named Bryan Kesler or something, who put up 26G and 33A that season.

The point still stands.

Point is, Burrows doesn't need to play with the best to be an actual NHL player who can keep his head above water.

Kesler was 23.

As for Junior, I'm not sure what you think "great offensive numbers" are.

Erik Karlsson put up 78 points as a 21 year old.

In that ballpark?

Avatar
#43 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:29PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Time Travelling Sean wrote:

J Schultz looks lazy in his own zone, no one is going to deny that, but he is a rookie. This is what rookie seasons are for. How many players peak during their rookie seasons? Esp defensemen?

Brodin is a good D-man, playing with a very good D-man in a very structured, established system suited for D-men.

Also being tired isn't a lame excuse, from 40 games a season against college players to 78 games playing 20-25 minutes a night against professionals, it does take adjusting, look at Conacher, 18 points in his first 20 games, then 7 in the next 20. He played in 36 AHL games before the NHL season started.

You know Brodin played in the AHL, is coming off a broken collarbone and plays more than 23 minutes a night, right?

He's also a rookie and is only 19.

So maybe that's why he isn't "tired".

Avatar
#44 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:35PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Rod from Viking wrote:

In 06-07 Bieksa at 25 years old was minus 11 in 34 games with the Canucks a lot better team than the 2013 Oilers, his combined +/- in 3 years at Bowling Green was -40,I would say he turned into a pretty good d-man. I know you do this crap just to get people riled up but don't you have something better to do? By the way an eagle is a glorified buzzard that lives on things that was killed by something else(perfect moniker)

You've never seen an eagle fishing for salmon?

In his first full season in the NHL, Bieksa, scored 12 goals and 42 points and was plus 1.

Considering he was a 5th round pick, I would think he's done pretty well.

He spent a couple of years in the AHL learning how to play defense...sound familiar?

Avatar
#45 Citizen David
April 18 2013, 10:44PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

If the question is who would I rather have, it's Brodin hands down. But just cause I'd rather have Toews doesn't mean I don't want Duchene. I think J. Schultz will be just fine.

Avatar
#46 Citizen David
April 18 2013, 10:46PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
bored wrote:

I think Brodin is a stud...Would love him on the Oilers. I also really like what I saw from JS, he makes me happy.

Comparing them is stupid. You would have to be blind to not be excited to have either one on your team. Knowing how good Crosby is doesn't make Hall any less good.

That being said, he's definitely not perfect. He may be Jack Johnson today, but I feel like with his hockey IQ and natural ability, his ceiling is Sergei Zubov who just happened to OWN the Oilers for a very long time.

Apologies for plagiarizing. You speak the truth.

Avatar
#47 Rogue
April 18 2013, 10:48PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

I see Drivel Spouting Fool is back to torment the Oil faithful. Once in a while,he does make sense. But his meager credibilty goes out the window here. All he would have to say is Congrats for Justin, but nope. Defying Sanity Forever, is truly a first class, classless moron.

Avatar
#48 Zoop
April 18 2013, 10:52PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Obvious-troll is obvious.

Avatar
#49 Rod from Viking
April 18 2013, 10:53PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@DSF

Yes once in a while they grab a live fish, Justin Schultz will be just fine, he has played too many minutes in tough situations and twice as many games as he ever has played, he also didn't get much practice time and this system seems to be quite flawed.

Avatar
#50 DSF
April 18 2013, 10:53PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Slats wrote:

That's some awesome cherry pick there from a Brodin comparison to Karlsson - WOW that was whopper even for you.

Why stop there . . . .heck there was a 22 year old who was +124 and had 139 pts his name was Bobby Orr - Schulz Jr. should switch sports I guess . . .

What a DA.

I recall Lowetide comparing Schultz to Bobby Orr...I laughed.

But not as hard as when he compared Sam Gagner to Doug Gilmour...I peed myself...and it wasn't planned.

It really is time that Oiler fans took a step back and took a close look at what they actually have before thinking they can trade their chaff for actual NHL players.

Schultz is a decent offensive defenseman who doesn't have a clue in his own end.

Anyone who can't see that isn't paying attention.

Winning an AHL award is great and all but bear in mind that Jason Krog was an absolute AHL stud and there are numerous other examples of players who could excel at that level but failed when the rubber hit the road.

Schultz may well figure things out but until, or if, he does, he's a smaller, weaker Jack Johnson.

There is no evidence to the contrary.

None.

Comments are closed for this article.