NUGENT-HOPKINS NEEDS SURGERY

Jason Gregor
April 21 2013 11:25AM

Ryan Nugent-Hopkin's season is over. He will have shoulder surgery, as early as this Tuesday in Cleveland.

He has a suspected labrum tear in his left shoulder. Last year they fixed his AC joint on the same shoulder, but now he will need the same surgery Taylor Hall had last year.

Hall's season ended on March 27th last year, he had surgery on April 3rd, and he played his first game in OKC on November 2nd, 2012.

Nugent-Hopkins might have surgery as early as this Tuesday, April 23rd, but that means he likely won't play until mid-November. Due to the lockout the Oilers didn't have to rush Hall back, and the Oilers will need to fight the urge to get RNH back on the ice next season.

Just like Hall, Nugent-Hopkin's injury dates back to junior. Hall told me last fall that the surgery process is painful, but that he felt much better, he also said he was glad he didn't have to rush back due to the lockout. The Oilers must play it safe with RNH in October and give him significant time to heal.

It is fair to ask why RNH didn't have this surgery a month ago because it was clear from the start of the season that he's been struggling. I wasn't at the morning skate so I couldn't ask him, but it is something I will ask tomorrow. I suspect the answer will be that they were the hunt for the playoffs and the doctors said he couldn't injure it any worse than it was. 

There is no chance Nugent-Hopkins will be ready for the season opener, and that means the Oilers will be without their #1 centre. I understand the Oilers wanted to compete for the playoffs this year, but I think they should have sent Nugent-Hopkins to the surgeon much sooner.

 

Ddf3e2ba09069c465299f3c416e43eae
One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
Avatar
#101 OilersBrass
April 21 2013, 02:27PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Jasmine wrote:

But Oilers fans want the Oilers to trade Gagner for magic beans and buy out Horcoff and Belanger.

It's a forum, everyone is entitled to voice their own opinion. Just because they say ludicrous and ridiculous things sometimes, it doesn't mean they will happen.

If you don't like what people say then don't read the comments. I get frustrated sometimes when people tell me i'm dumb for the things I say, but a lot of the time I say something will happen and it actually happens.

I still haven't figured out if you're serious about these things, or if you're just trolling trying to get a rouse out of everyone.

Avatar
#102 Jasmine
April 21 2013, 02:28PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@messyEH!

You're an idiot. Players don't sign in Edmonton because so-called Oilers fans bash the Oilers every chance they get and run players out of town.

They also don't sign in Edmonton because Pronger accuses Oilers fans of burning his baby's crib. Until Oilers get fans that stop bashing everything Lowe does because Slats left, players won't sign in Edmonton. Ask Ray Whitney. He said he didn't sign in Edmonton because of the fans.

Avatar
#103 Jasmine
April 21 2013, 02:33PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@OilersBrass

Just frustrated that the Oilers have been bashed since the day Slats left. People wanted Lowe fired the day he was hired. They wanted him fired after every trade he made.

Fans are also the reason Lowe resigned and Tambi became GM. It wouldn't have mattered who became GM after slats as that person would have been criticized for everything he did.

Slats could do no wrong and whoever became GM after Slats would have been criticized for everything he did. Heck Oilers got criticized for signing Miller.

Avatar
#104 Jasmine
April 21 2013, 02:34PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
messyEH! wrote:

Tambellini was made GM when the team already sucked because of KLowes whale hunting and poor draft record. Type in caps all you want your just bring the discussion to a LOWE level.

This is getting ridiculous. The Oilers' draft record improved after wonder boy Slats left. Slats thought they didn't need to draft well during the SC runs so he drafted crap.

Avatar
#105 Eddie Edmonton
April 21 2013, 02:39PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Only if Kevin Lowe would have forced Gagner to a magic bean diet in his 1st year.

Avatar
#106 Smokey
April 21 2013, 02:41PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Jasmine wrote:

And once again Oilers fans prove why no one wants to sign in Edmonton. They care more about draft picks than wins. I'm getting fed up of Oilers fans cheering losses to get a good draft pick. There's a reason players don't sign in Edmonton and the reason is the fans.

Amazing how you concentrate on one part of the comment and not the other. How bout you re-read it, and mull it over for 10 seconds.

I said I wanted the team to win until this latest news, I'd rather we tank now because we need some immediate help at that position come next year cause we are not seeing a healthy Nuge till December. Comprehendy? Building momentum n continuity going into next season would be the desired at to finish this season, but this teams deflated like an air balloon with the Lowe boondoggle, the skid, and now this. Its not getting any lower around these parts.

Avatar
#107 OilersBrass
April 21 2013, 02:43PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Jasmine wrote:

Just frustrated that the Oilers have been bashed since the day Slats left. People wanted Lowe fired the day he was hired. They wanted him fired after every trade he made.

Fans are also the reason Lowe resigned and Tambi became GM. It wouldn't have mattered who became GM after slats as that person would have been criticized for everything he did.

Slats could do no wrong and whoever became GM after Slats would have been criticized for everything he did. Heck Oilers got criticized for signing Miller.

Let people criticize. Once all the pieces (prospects) of this team mature and fall into place no one will say anything. Expect another 2 years of this kind of stuff, a rebuild is frustrating for everyone, and clearly all fans are extremely frustrated.

Avatar
#108 morgie99
April 21 2013, 02:43PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Woodguy wrote:

There is no chance Nugent-Hopkins will be ready for the season opener, and that means the Oilers will be without their #1 centre. I understand the Oilers wanted to compete for the playoffs this year, but I think they should have sent Nugent-Hopkins to the surgeon much sooner.

Another bad decision on a long list of bad decisions by the Edmonton Oilers.

Ol' 6 rings is a winner though, don't question his hockey acumen.

I hope after his MacT presser performance he's kept to pancake breakfasts with sponsors and 1st tier fans.

The playoffs were essentially out of reach after losing to ANA on April 8th.

I hope the timing of this announcement was coupled with MacT smacking everyone who kept him playing upside the head.

Just dumb.

AMEN! Well said!

Avatar
#109 LoweBlow
April 21 2013, 02:47PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Off season meal-plan:

1. A steady diet of steroids and babies. 2. A bowl of blood before every game.

I want this kid drooling for carnage by the start of next season! They got it right on BackhandShelf: he needs a panic button where he just gets into beast mode and keeps the puck on his stick like a magnet. Joe Sakic wasn't a rough or viscous guy, but he had that extra gear.

Avatar
#110 Ambassador humantorch
April 21 2013, 02:50PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

I don't even live in Canada, so I'm about an 8th tier fan and the Oilers could likely give a flying fart about my opinion, yet here it is anyways.

This is the Ghost of Tambellini Past coming back to haunt us. No other explanation makes any sense.

Avatar
#111 messyEH!
April 21 2013, 02:51PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Sather won his cups as a coach and a GM. What has Lowe won since he stopped following Messier around... crickets... besides my opinion of low has nothing to do with Sather. I judge the man on his own record. Lowe being a living piece of hockey paraphernalia for Katz. Does not excuse his arrogance and mismanagement of my beloved Oilers.

As a side note the next time Sourays in town we should give him an ovation for being the only person on the "inside" to call out Klowe and company.

Avatar
#112 Ambassador humantorch
April 21 2013, 02:52PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
morgie99 wrote:

STOP WITH THE CAPS LOCK LOL

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE WISDOM OF THE CLEARLY-NOT-CRAZY NARNIA.

Avatar
#113 Quicksilver ballet
April 21 2013, 03:04PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Why are we not surprised. This from an organization who reminds all of its staff not to search Google, on Google, or it will break the internet. This goes for you too Jasmine/Narnia.

Avatar
#114 DSF
April 21 2013, 03:17PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
messyEH! wrote:

Sather won his cups as a coach and a GM. What has Lowe won since he stopped following Messier around... crickets... besides my opinion of low has nothing to do with Sather. I judge the man on his own record. Lowe being a living piece of hockey paraphernalia for Katz. Does not excuse his arrogance and mismanagement of my beloved Oilers.

As a side note the next time Sourays in town we should give him an ovation for being the only person on the "inside" to call out Klowe and company.

Golly...that would be tonight...and tomorrow.

Go Big Sexy!

Avatar
#115 Smokey
April 21 2013, 03:19PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
messyEH! wrote:

Sather won his cups as a coach and a GM. What has Lowe won since he stopped following Messier around... crickets... besides my opinion of low has nothing to do with Sather. I judge the man on his own record. Lowe being a living piece of hockey paraphernalia for Katz. Does not excuse his arrogance and mismanagement of my beloved Oilers.

As a side note the next time Sourays in town we should give him an ovation for being the only person on the "inside" to call out Klowe and company.

I got a Souray Jersey,

however being a second rate fan I don't have a ticket tonight. I declare we start a Souray fan club. I vow to bring a sign next season to a Anaheim game that says:

SOURAY, WE'RE SORRY, YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG, NOT ALL US FANS BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA....

Heck, I wish I could afford tickets for the next five games...Someone really needs to start the "FIRE LO-WE!" chants. I'd settle for a give us Wang chant too to send a message to Katz.

Avatar
#116 oilers2k10
April 21 2013, 03:32PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

My wife walked by the other day as I was watching Post Game interviews and she couldn't believe how big Taylor Hall looked compared to previous years..I think the rehab from that shoulder surgery probably included a ton of upper body workouts, RNH will be fine, if anything this could be a blessing in disguise, would've been nice if Oilers would've called a surgery date a month ago but if he gets the surgery this week it gives him a bit over six months before the start of next season, he will be fine..bigger, stronger, better.

Avatar
#117 Spydyr
April 21 2013, 03:51PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

I love magic beans.Eberle was magic beans....MMMM ,MMMM good.

Avatar
#118 Rama Lama
April 21 2013, 03:55PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Wax Man Riley wrote:

Well of course Horcoff too.

Everybody know EVERYTHING is Horcoff's fault

Not everything is HOrcoff's fault.........it's just too bad people think he is good, as it delays improvements where improvement is needed.

He is a good fourth line center.

Avatar
#119 Rama Lama
April 21 2013, 04:06PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
messyEH! wrote:

Sather won his cups as a coach and a GM. What has Lowe won since he stopped following Messier around... crickets... besides my opinion of low has nothing to do with Sather. I judge the man on his own record. Lowe being a living piece of hockey paraphernalia for Katz. Does not excuse his arrogance and mismanagement of my beloved Oilers.

As a side note the next time Sourays in town we should give him an ovation for being the only person on the "inside" to call out Klowe and company.

I agree.......good assessment. Now it all makes sense why so many players in the NHL said so many negative things about management........KLowe is a clown and Burke was right about him.

I say bring Burke to Edmonton.

Avatar
#120 NewfoundlandOil
April 21 2013, 04:18PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Guys, this is perfect. The Nuge will get surgery and will add 15-20 lbs this summer while eating Doritos in front of the TV.

Next year he will be peaking.....throwing hits.....and be the Coke machine centre and true Oiler (see shoulder) that everyone wants.

I don't understand the disappointment with this.

Avatar
#121 michael
April 21 2013, 04:27PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
oilers2k10 wrote:

My wife walked by the other day as I was watching Post Game interviews and she couldn't believe how big Taylor Hall looked compared to previous years..I think the rehab from that shoulder surgery probably included a ton of upper body workouts, RNH will be fine, if anything this could be a blessing in disguise, would've been nice if Oilers would've called a surgery date a month ago but if he gets the surgery this week it gives him a bit over six months before the start of next season, he will be fine..bigger, stronger, better.

This just puts the final nail in the Tambo coffin. If he had this information before the trade deadline I'd wonder wtf he was thinking. Did Tambo think that this team would go far with his number 1 center with a bum shoulder? If he did have this information then his firing was even more necessary. I wouldn't have said a word if had the balls to take him off the shelf a month ago and told ON that RNH needed the same surgery as Hall. I could live with that. Beyond the fact the person is more important than the team. It behooves a GM to make short term descisions like this if he was aware of it. If you have knowledge that RNH needs surgery you don't even ask the player if it can wait. You call him into the room and tell him he is done and go get the surgery. See you next year. Piss me off it wasn't done sooner. Tambo if he knew should have known better. That what he was getting paid for as GM.

Avatar
#122 morgie99
April 21 2013, 05:35PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
oilers2k10 wrote:

My wife walked by the other day as I was watching Post Game interviews and she couldn't believe how big Taylor Hall looked compared to previous years..I think the rehab from that shoulder surgery probably included a ton of upper body workouts, RNH will be fine, if anything this could be a blessing in disguise, would've been nice if Oilers would've called a surgery date a month ago but if he gets the surgery this week it gives him a bit over six months before the start of next season, he will be fine..bigger, stronger, better.

I hope you're right but consider Hall a year or so ago if not more, was already 195 pounds, i suspect Hopkins is 175 at best if not less

regardless, it doesn't change until told otherwise, why Hopkins wasn't shut down earlier

Avatar
#123 LoweBlow
April 21 2013, 06:53PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

Hey Jasmine,

Last time I looked Lowe doesn't have a puppet job, he is being paid to do something. It was both he and Tambo. Lighten up. If you want to consistently display obtuse ignorant logic, I'm sure the Canuck army would welcome you with open arms.

If you're going to disagree, do it with a well constructed argument. Caps lock is not a substitute for logic.

Grow up much?

Avatar
#124 Darrell
April 21 2013, 07:18PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
DSF wrote:

Souray and Beauchemin are the best defensive pairing in the NHL this season.

Wouldn't want that kind of influence around the young Oilers. :)

Sourays big shot and his attitude belongs in Cali ... Trust me.

Avatar
#125 @Oilanderp
April 21 2013, 08:51PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@Darrell

I completely agree. Being a 3rd tier fan gives me a bit of an outside perspective, and from here it seems that Oiler fans sometimes just want a reason to be outraged.

If anything, they did it early! I hope all goes well baby Nugelet.

Avatar
#126 GVBlackhawk
April 21 2013, 09:39PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Darrell wrote:

Can you imagine the ON rage if RNH hangs it up after the 8-2 oiler win that had up in the playoffs for a day ? Mathematically eliminated is the only time to pull the plug folks ....

You liked the 20% odds of making the playoffs after the 8-2 win, eh? Worth sacrificing the first month or two of next season? Doesn't make sense to this fan.

Avatar
#127 Walter Sobchak
April 21 2013, 11:05PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

I don't think this stops the Oilers from moving Gagner at all, they draft Barkov, move Hall to center for 2 months.

As for RNH not getting this looked after knowing there was going to be a lockout, the whole bloody orginization should be fired.

Amazing.

Avatar
#128 Quicksilver ballet
April 21 2013, 11:34PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Walter Sobchak wrote:

I don't think this stops the Oilers from moving Gagner at all, they draft Barkov, move Hall to center for 2 months.

As for RNH not getting this looked after knowing there was going to be a lockout, the whole bloody orginization should be fired.

Amazing.

If they do have to settle for Barkov. How soon till he can play at the NHL level? Is he 2 yrs away?

Lazar 2 yrs away as well?

Avatar
#129 Darrell
April 22 2013, 06:02AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
GVBlackhawk wrote:

You liked the 20% odds of making the playoffs after the 8-2 win, eh? Worth sacrificing the first month or two of next season? Doesn't make sense to this fan.

After not getting a sniff of the playoffs in seven years plus the need to experience the playoffs for the core it makes sense to me. Keep in mind I am not a season ticket holder and don't matter anyway :)

Avatar
#130 michael
April 22 2013, 07:35AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
GVBlackhawk wrote:

You liked the 20% odds of making the playoffs after the 8-2 win, eh? Worth sacrificing the first month or two of next season? Doesn't make sense to this fan.

Good point. Stick another nail in the coffin of this corpse which we call the 2012-2013 season. Why wait? It really sticks in my craw how this looks like Souray all over again. We play him till he breaks totally? We need to ensure that we send the message that we put people above winning. That is what Oil Country is about. That is what makes us great. Its people. The game is secondary. Always.

Avatar
#131 thebiggestmanintheworld
April 22 2013, 08:25AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Walter Sobchak wrote:

I don't think this stops the Oilers from moving Gagner at all, they draft Barkov, move Hall to center for 2 months.

As for RNH not getting this looked after knowing there was going to be a lockout, the whole bloody orginization should be fired.

Amazing.

Nothing to worry about...

A natural LW that's just hitting his stride, a raw rookie fresh off the draft, and Horcoff will be all the center depth we need....

We might as well see if we can trade Gagner for another first, then we can maybe get another dman to round out the top 4?

Draft picks have to be the answer, right? Getting younger is the key? Pushing players into positions where they will struggle to succeed seems just as shortsighted as playing RNH this long.

With plans like these, Oiler will be drafting top 5 forever...

Avatar
#132 non descript
April 22 2013, 09:00AM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers

@thebiggestmanintheworld

the oilers are the worst run organization in the league. its not even close. they are just embarking on their comical journey of futility. as oiler fans we will know nothing but anger, frustration and embarrassment.

Avatar
#133 Walter Sobchak
April 22 2013, 04:07PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Cheers
0
cheers
Quicksilver ballet wrote:

If they do have to settle for Barkov. How soon till he can play at the NHL level? Is he 2 yrs away?

Lazar 2 yrs away as well?

Lazar would be two years, and projects to be a third line checker possible second line RW at the high end.

Barkov has dominated the Finnish elite league, projected to be one of the best Fin's to come out of the league.

I think he can play soft minutes next season, possible even a regular 4 th line role with PP time.

Watching so many Jr games I'm certain had he played in the CHL he would be ranked #1 overall.

He is clearly one of the best players playing in a men's league, while dominating it at only 17 years of age.

He certainly can't be worse then Belanger - Smyth - Petrel - Brown - Smithson - Jones, so a clear upgrade right there.

Comments are closed for this article.