GDB 37.0: DOWN TO THE DIRTY DOZEN

Jason Gregor
April 04 2013 09:19AM

The Oilers took care of business and swept the Flames, two games they had to win, and now the real games begin. Nine of the Oilers remaining 12 games are against playoff teams, and this is the scenario the Oilers desperately wanted their young team to experience.

The intensity will increase, and the youthful Oilers will need to match the consistency, smarts and veteran savvy of the Canucks, Ducks, Blackhawks, Wild and Kings.

These games matter. The players know it, management knows it and the fans know it. This should be fun.

You can sense the excitement in the city and on the Nation. Fans are jacked up. The scar tissue you've obtained from seven seasons of watching an over-matched, under-talented, uninspiring team is starting to breakdown. You actually look forward to the games, because you believe your team has a legitimate chance to win.

If you are under 30 it is likely a feeling you've never truly experienced during the regular season. The Oilers are still a few players short of being a dominant team, but their first line is the hottest line in the NHL, and when one line is that good you have a chance to win any game.

During this five-game winning streak Taylor Hall has 14 points, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins has 10 and Jordan Eberle has 8. They've combined for 32 points, and the scary part is that they've missed some glorious chances. Their speed, skill and smarts are a deadly combination right now, and it will be interesting to see how Alain Vigneault, Darryl Sutter and Bruce Boudreau try to slow them down on this road trip.

LINEUP

Hall/Nugent-Hopkins/Eberle
Paajarvi/Gagner/Hemsky
Jones/Horcoff/Yakupov
Brown/Smyth/Petrell

Smid/Petry
N.Schultz/J.Schultz
Whitney/Potter

Dubnyk (Although Krueger hinted he hasn't made up his mind and Khabibulin might play. I don't see any reason not to play Dubnyk)

Magnus Paajarvi is banged up, but Krueger said this after the game last night, "It's not a serious injury, it's a manageable one. He's probable for tomorrow." Hemsky has been playing with a minor knick, and I suspect Paajarvi will dress tonight. If the injury is more about pain-tolerance than impacting his play he'll go. Players can play hurt, but it isn't wise to play injured, especially if the injury will limit your performance.

Jerred Smithson, acquired yesterday from Florida, will be in the hospital today as his fiance is scheduled to give birth. He told me yesterday that if things go as planned, he'll join the team in either Los Angeles or Anaheim. "Family comes first, once we get the baby figured out, I'll join the team as quick as I can. I can't wait to play in Edmonton," Smithson told me on my radio show yesterday.

I'd play Smithson when he gets here. He shoots right and his FO% the last four years is: 54.8% in 2013, 56.1% in 2012, 57.4% in 2011, 54.9 in 2010, 52.6% in 2009. He can win draws, and you can use him and Horcoff on different sides.

QUICK HITS

  • The Oilers nine remaining games against playoff teams are all against the top-six teams in the west. They will have to play one of them in the playoffs if they make it, so they might as well get used to it.
     
  • The Oilers are 8-2-2 since Shawn Horcoff called a player's only meeting and returned to the lineup in Chicago. I know the 4/93/14 line is carrying this team offensively, but Horcoff's message sunk in. The Oilers have cut down on their turnovers in the defensive and neutral zone. And they rarely turn it over at the offensive blueline anymore. Those plays were killing them early in the season.
     
  • The other big change is their willingness to drive the net. Guys without the puck are finally going to the net and creating havoc. 
     
  • The Oilers are 2nd in combined special teams at 108.3. They are 3rd in PP effeciency at 23.8% and 7th on the PK at 84.5%.
     
  • It is hard not to like Roberto Luongo these days. His twitter feed is hilarious, and yesterday, when the Canucks made the idiotic decision to make him hold a press conference to discuss why he wasn't traded, he was very honest and classy. When asked why he wasn't traded he replied, "Cause my contact sucks. If I could rip it up now I would."
     
  • You could tell not playing is killing him. He's handled this situation extremely well, and when the Canucks finally trade him to the eastern conference I suspect many fans will be cheering for him. Tonight of course, you hope the Oilers light up him and Corey Schneider.
     
  • Derek Roy will help the Canucks. They desperately needed a 2nd line centre, and he will give them some much-needed secondary scoring.
     
  • I liked the Columbus decision to acquire Marian Gaborik, especially because it didn't cost them any of their three first-round picks. Even if they don't make the playoffs this year, the Blue Jackets added a proven sniper. Basically, the deals between the Rangers and Blue Jackets look like this...Nash, Brassard, Dorsett, Moore and a 6th for Gaborik, Dubinsky, Erixon, Anisimov and a 1st rounder. I'd still say the Blue Jackets did well.
     
  • Very interesting move by George McPhee to trade away Filip Forsberg, 11th pick in 2012, for Martin Erat. The Capitals will win the South East this year, because they are rolling and the Jets and Hurricanes are on the skids, but how will this trade look in a few years. I've gotten very differing views from scouts. Some really like him, while others think he'll never produce more points than Erat. Time will tell. Caps win trade today, but Preds could benefit greatly in the future.
     
  • Don't look now, but the Oilers playoff chances, according to sportsclubstats, are up to 42.1% after last night's victory. Before the five-game winning streak they were at 4.1%. That is quite the jump. Detroit is at 72.7% and St. Louis 70.4%, but the Oilers have closed the gap considerably.

MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL....

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Have to go with the hot team considering I've picked them to win the last four. I know how superstitious the Nation can be. Oilers win in OT, 4-3.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Hall, RNH, Eberle line combine for six points.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION:  Ryan Smyth ends his 20-game goal scoring drought with a deflection early in the 2nd period. Smyth does a triple combination fist-pump, look-to-the-heavens, glove-slide-on-the-ice celebration afterwards. His young teammates love the "celly," especially Yakupov who says to Smyth, "Prunes is going to love that and use it during Hockey Night in Canada,"

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR

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#101 NewAgeSys
April 04 2013, 04:27PM
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You are dead on the Money, the system dictates the type of and volume of scoreing chances for and against.Every game.

The real key to winning NHL games and championships is to have a superior SYSTEM for everyone to "buy into", but it is ALL ABOUT THE SYSTEM.

The way the Oilers remain unstoppable is by consistantly for 60 mins executeing a simple system presentation and by doing EXACTLY as the coaches say when they say it.

I believe the Oilers are finally subscribing to the NewAge Hockey Systems core values accurately for the first time, they are embracing the constellation of philosophys not just bits and pieces, this evolution should be permanent. Note- Halls is managing his game much differently since the 1st line exploded, the dynamic managment has been absolutely different, thanks to the NHS.

6-2 Oilers, in a physical grindfest, the Nucks will lose a Sedin tonight and Bieksa will be two-handed across the wrist and be gone by the 2nd period, no more BS, we will give pain to get the 2 pt gain. Not a good time to screw with us. We can add physicality to our game without losing any offense, its a bad idea to cheapshot us because once we have a 4 goal lead we will cut the dogs loose on you and begin doing surgery on your top stars with our sticks and elbows. We are getting tough. Eberle erupts for his first hattrick tonight to push Hallsy even higher than he has gone on his own

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#102 vetinari
April 04 2013, 04:42PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

You are dead on the Money, the system dictates the type of and volume of scoreing chances for and against.Every game.

The real key to winning NHL games and championships is to have a superior SYSTEM for everyone to "buy into", but it is ALL ABOUT THE SYSTEM.

The way the Oilers remain unstoppable is by consistantly for 60 mins executeing a simple system presentation and by doing EXACTLY as the coaches say when they say it.

I believe the Oilers are finally subscribing to the NewAge Hockey Systems core values accurately for the first time, they are embracing the constellation of philosophys not just bits and pieces, this evolution should be permanent. Note- Halls is managing his game much differently since the 1st line exploded, the dynamic managment has been absolutely different, thanks to the NHS.

6-2 Oilers, in a physical grindfest, the Nucks will lose a Sedin tonight and Bieksa will be two-handed across the wrist and be gone by the 2nd period, no more BS, we will give pain to get the 2 pt gain. Not a good time to screw with us. We can add physicality to our game without losing any offense, its a bad idea to cheapshot us because once we have a 4 goal lead we will cut the dogs loose on you and begin doing surgery on your top stars with our sticks and elbows. We are getting tough. Eberle erupts for his first hattrick tonight to push Hallsy even higher than he has gone on his own

@NewAgeSys - buddy, I defended your right last night to speak as you do to some Flame trash talkers, but really, you would benefit from a personal editor and your comments should be more concise to be effective on this type of forum.

Here's what I took from your post #101:

"You need to develop offensive and defensive systems that work with the players you have, and that they can execute. The Oilers did great last night because they are playing as a team and not as individuals. Now that we know positioning we can try to up the physical aspect against Vancouver. Hall and Eberle are warriors."

See? More concise and to the point.

On a side note, I always envisioned your day job as being either a cult leader, an angry drifter who posts from public libraries or a coffee fuelled auctioneer... any hints?

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#103 Clyde Frog
April 04 2013, 04:49PM
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@NewAgeSys

My dog's breath smells like catfood....

Do you have a system to determine if he is actually a dog?

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#104 Mac962
April 04 2013, 04:50PM
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vetinari wrote:

I had fun trash talking our Flaming counterparts last night, but what can we say about the Canucks for tonight?

*ahem

"Hey, Nuckleheads, your team is like the milk carton in my fridge... the best before date was October, 10 2009!"

[looks around, giving thumbs up to ON]

Good one, chocked on my first of a couple pre-game beers.

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#105 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
April 04 2013, 04:55PM
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Eddie Shore wrote:

What ever happened to the Ogden Brothers?

last rumour had all 7 of them forming a Partridge Family tribute band and going on tour.

i think they hired Rosscreek to be the bus driver and only had to pay him with a TSN2 subscription.

rumour like that must be true

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#106 Milli
April 04 2013, 05:07PM
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ghostofberanek wrote:

6 games ago, I was complaining about Taylor Hall. I whined and moaned about his play, give aways etc. I stated that I hope he makes me look like an idiot for saying that. Well, here we are. I'm an idiot, and I couldn't be happier for it.

Also, kudos to Tambi for (what I believe), was a good read on the situation yesterday. They're just now starting to gel, and you simply don't mess with that. I think he's done a fine job for the most part.

Bud, I am embarrased to say, so was I! He is my fav player, but I was getting pissed at him! Well, he showed me!

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#107 Harlie - Team Admiral Hallsy
April 04 2013, 05:13PM
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Initially I scoffed at the Brown pickup and was pissed about the wasting of time with Eager and Hordichuk, but I'm loving Brown's play.

Not only can he fight, and he swings em' quick! But, I like his speed and his positional play and how he'll rag a guy down until he gets a puck or our zone is clear.

It hurts me to say it..but props to you Mr.T

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#108 StHenriOilBomb
April 04 2013, 05:15PM
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I tried it at home wrote:

Im not saying it would happen, but out of curiouslty, could Horcoff take Bieksa in a good ol' fashioned Drop The Gloves waltz? Ive seen the man, he's not exactly small, has shown heart and is a fitness nut. I know he's not a fighter per se, but it certainly would go a long ways to cementing his legacy as Captain of the Oilers.

great idea with his healing knuckle...

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#109 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 04 2013, 05:27PM
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oilerjed wrote:

Damn a thousand no's! Thats alot of no's :0 Ill except the goaltending then, I was using GA% which is really a team stat and not a very good tool for measuring goalies. That being said the rest still stands, where we are at now is more important then where we were a month ago. Nothing matters but the next 12 games.

ha! I was just ribbing you...

seriously though, if you are 3rd in the league in shots for %... well, that's as good an underlying stat of your team's baseline quality as any.

they are a very good team with very poor goaltending (this year anyway... same goalies were lights out last year, go figure!)

I agree though... sv% is a much better indicator of goalies than ga%

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#110 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 04 2013, 05:28PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

"Better than you seem to think" ????

I thought I said he was good, and would only get better?

Sorry.

I read you as apologizing (after a fashion) for RNH's poor defensive play.

He'll definitely get better, but there is nothing to apologize for even now.

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#111 Wax Man Riley
April 04 2013, 05:31PM
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cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan wrote:

last rumour had all 7 of them forming a Partridge Family tribute band and going on tour.

i think they hired Rosscreek to be the bus driver and only had to pay him with a TSN2 subscription.

rumour like that must be true

lol RossCreek! Wheres he been???

And what about Commander Ender?

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#112 Romulus' Apotheosis
April 04 2013, 05:51PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

lol RossCreek! Wheres he been???

And what about Commander Ender?

WBC?

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#113 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
April 04 2013, 06:02PM
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Will wrote:

Ha! Not sure about its current status awaiting Webster's approval. I actually feel a little bad as I didn't read the last part of Gregor's blog.

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that using biased stats to prove a point only really proves you're biased. And it is great to see that all the nay sayers who use any kind of stats for prediction purposes, are usually only half right half of the time.

Much like the end of Money Ball, you can't build a team around averages because night in and night out, averages usually don't amount to much.

To that effect, everyone looking at the record we need going forward to make it, is basing their prediction off the fact that the projected point total to get in is like 55 or 53, and that other teams around us in the standings, will continue their win loss pace for the rest of the season.

But hockey, and in fact most sports, do not work like that. Whose to say any of the current teams in the playoffs or the ones chasing won't go into a slump, or go on a hot streak? Clearly most of the league is structured so that almost every team has a chance, and that is currently being demonstrated by how tight the race is in both divisions. To say the Oilers will win and lose a certain number of games based on their competition completely undermines the fact they've beaten every single one of those teams at least once, and if they've done it before, they can do it again.

Banging away with stats, though useful to a point, kind of misses the point if that's all you look at. Show me the stat that demonstrates why we've done so well since Shawn Horcoff came back.

"The motivational speech to win ration increased upon Horcoff's return". Sorry for ranting but I'm sure anyone that has ever actually played hockey knows the infinite amount of intangibles that can't be tracked that go into winning and losing.

Did you actually watch the end of Moneyball?

The point was that you actually CAN build a very effective team by relying solely on advanced stats because the anecdotal evidence doesn't paint the whole story.

Sure they lost an important game, but I'm pretty sure in the epilogue text it talks about the fact that their system was so effective that every team in the league now uses it.

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#114 RexLibris
April 04 2013, 06:15PM
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NSOGDP - All the alluded-to previous commenters who have gone AWOL over the last few years make a triumphant return to the ON tonight and entertain us all with witty, insightful, and scathing remarks on our opponents, their fan base, municipality, legacy of letdown, and general proficiency towards inflammatory civil disobedience.

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#115 oilerjed
April 04 2013, 06:27PM
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so who's the goalie gonna be? any guesses

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#116 oilerjed
April 04 2013, 06:35PM
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Its Canucks kids club fundraising night, give them your money!

Go Oil!

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#117 ginganinja
April 04 2013, 06:37PM
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I know khabby started this streak for us with that ridiculous shutout but I really hope he doesnt start tonight. Dubnyk looks real comfortable right now

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#118 Harlie - Team Admiral Hallsy
April 04 2013, 06:41PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

lol RossCreek! Wheres he been???

And what about Commander Ender?

They are probably out on Brownlee Patrol - SIUTBOHC of anyone who called out Gagner previously.

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#119 Darrell
April 04 2013, 06:42PM
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10:30 EST start - cheers to a long (DSF BLOWS) day tomorrow!

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#120 Quicksilver ballet
April 04 2013, 07:15PM
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@NewAgeSys

What "System" did the Oilers use in the 80's?

....and why is a system so important?

Is this the only card teams (that are lacking in talent) teams have to play?

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#121 ginganinja
April 04 2013, 07:21PM
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@Quicksilver ballet

Obviously system isnt everything. If that was the case, any of us could be playing in the NHL. But I have a hard time believing that a team like the Sens under Maclean dont have a superior system. How else does that team keep winning without their top four players?

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#122 Oilcruzer
April 04 2013, 07:39PM
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Did someone who is just plain annoying and not worth responding to, just get banned? I see a bunch of "replies to xxx" but no original post.

Note: The last GDB is almost at 500 - someone push it over please.

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#123 They're $hittie
April 04 2013, 07:48PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Did someone who is just plain annoying and not worth responding to, just get banned? I see a bunch of "replies to xxx" but no original post.

Note: The last GDB is almost at 500 - someone push it over please.

well i didnt get banned so that must mean only one other guy. LOL.

Really wonder.

Maybe he is Wayne and this is all his master plan.

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#124 Darrell
April 04 2013, 07:50PM
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Oilcruzer wrote:

Did someone who is just plain annoying and not worth responding to, just get banned? I see a bunch of "replies to xxx" but no original post.

Note: The last GDB is almost at 500 - someone push it over please.

I dare the Nation - take a stand dammit!

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#125 Klima's Mullet
April 04 2013, 08:00PM
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ginganinja wrote:

Obviously system isnt everything. If that was the case, any of us could be playing in the NHL. But I have a hard time believing that a team like the Sens under Maclean dont have a superior system. How else does that team keep winning without their top four players?

Have you seen their team save %? Goaltenders are the only reason they are in the picture...

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#126 Romanus
April 04 2013, 08:01PM
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I didn't notice those last couple of lines. Now I know why I haven't seen a bunch of annoying posts from he who shall not be named.

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#127 Harlie - Team Admiral Hallsy
April 04 2013, 08:03PM
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Guys, this is the chump change fans we are going up against...pull out your tinfoil hats!

Apr 4, 2013 2:02 AM in response to: sportsnet_ca

Re: Commodore takes shot at Canucks fans

The Canucks didn't lose because of Colin Campbell. They lost because of Jeremy Jacobs, Gary Bettman, Colin Campbell, Mike Murphy, Brian Burke, Terry Gregson, Stephen Walkom, Kelly Sutherland, and lingering support for Stephane Auger in the officiating community.

Their sheer corruption wouldn't have been possible without the tacit support of the CBC and its pro-Boston commentary from Milbury, Stock, Cherry, McClean and even Simpson.

The lone voice of reason was Jim Hughson but he got drowned out by the rest of them. It was a travesty.

LINK: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/commodore-takes-shot-at-canucks-fans/

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#128 ginganinja
April 04 2013, 08:10PM
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@Klima's Mullet

A save percentage inflated by their system. Which is why all three goalies playing for them have such high numbers. I dont know though thats the way I see it any way. On the flip side Bischop got a shutout tonight for Tampa. And we all know system couldnt have had anything to do with that.

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#129 They're $hittie
April 04 2013, 08:14PM
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Harlie - Team Admiral Hallsy wrote:

Guys, this is the chump change fans we are going up against...pull out your tinfoil hats!

Apr 4, 2013 2:02 AM in response to: sportsnet_ca

Re: Commodore takes shot at Canucks fans

The Canucks didn't lose because of Colin Campbell. They lost because of Jeremy Jacobs, Gary Bettman, Colin Campbell, Mike Murphy, Brian Burke, Terry Gregson, Stephen Walkom, Kelly Sutherland, and lingering support for Stephane Auger in the officiating community.

Their sheer corruption wouldn't have been possible without the tacit support of the CBC and its pro-Boston commentary from Milbury, Stock, Cherry, McClean and even Simpson.

The lone voice of reason was Jim Hughson but he got drowned out by the rest of them. It was a travesty.

LINK: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/commodore-takes-shot-at-canucks-fans/

canucks fan just dont know how dumb they are and when to shut up.

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#130 NewAgeSys
April 04 2013, 08:14PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

What "System" did the Oilers use in the 80's?

....and why is a system so important?

Is this the only card teams (that are lacking in talent) teams have to play?

The Dynasty Oilers played an adjusted hybrid for the first three years and then they evolved into a more NHS style of system based 100% on Gretzkys brain. They played an aggressive stand-up defense and used an fast explosive backchecking forward style to dominate the neutral zone, you didnt dare give it up in the n-zone because everyone was a finisher and they all played defensive roles so they got more pucks than other offensive guys, people wont aknowledge the hard work double-shifting or PKing is on offensive players.

The System is so important because it contains as a core component a philosophy that influences everything it does on and off the ice. The system catalyses the tactics and decisions of the players coaches and managers and ensures they are all working together in a paralell direction and in unity. The system is the glue that bonds and the Gates of the City to defend, the system itself can vary techniclly but dyamiclly there is a winning template that must be followed for it to produce consistant wins and championships,there is not just one system tha can potentially win, there is of course a superior system. The system is the tatoo that everyone on the team has somewhere on their bodies either hidden or visible as per personal taste or Scars on the visible areas. It is where you fall back to to regroup and reenergise so you can reengage in battle.

Top of the scale is a superior system, bottom is a team of players who are ALL NHL average min. skillsets, now just find your spot on the scale where those two factors balance in your room and you are accurately assessing yourself for optimal potential resultswise.

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#131 ginganinja
April 04 2013, 08:19PM
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You had to ask mullet. You had to ask.

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#132 Clyde Frog
April 04 2013, 08:28PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Did you actually watch the end of Moneyball?

The point was that you actually CAN build a very effective team by relying solely on advanced stats because the anecdotal evidence doesn't paint the whole story.

Sure they lost an important game, but I'm pretty sure in the epilogue text it talks about the fact that their system was so effective that every team in the league now uses it.

But baseball is 100% different statistically...

You can isolate each individual interaction and those interactions have a very high correlation coefficient.

IE each pitch is an individual statistical point, each subsequent action can be broken down by the outcome of the pitch, etc.

Hockey isn't like that at all; at best you are relating items that actually have very little to do with each other and projecting from that.

For instance look at a players shooting percentage versus a goaltender during a game. Look at the 100 different factors that contribute to those numbers...

Where did the shots occur from, who was the players linemates, where were they? Who was the opposition on the ice? Where were they? Was there traffic in front of the goalie? Was the puck recently passed? Did the player deke? Was he being stick checked?

Now an advanced stats blogger will tell you those will be washed out in the averages, but at the same time they lament their statistical sample sizes.

How do they compensate? They divide stats by each other to come up with different looking numbers that they feel reflect reality better...

Then fully understanding that one shot is completely unrelated to another in a way that is completely impossible to mathmatically model, they try to regress performance to a mean they build by jumbling every possible player together.

In conclusion: Advanced stats in hockey is a joke, it mostly guess work and drawing conclusions from numbers they artificially create as apposed to modeling anything through math.

Don't believe me? Ask them for the R squared value of their model, then ask them to define it as it relates to the work they did.

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#133 Will
April 04 2013, 08:35PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

Did you actually watch the end of Moneyball?

The point was that you actually CAN build a very effective team by relying solely on advanced stats because the anecdotal evidence doesn't paint the whole story.

Sure they lost an important game, but I'm pretty sure in the epilogue text it talks about the fact that their system was so effective that every team in the league now uses it.

Uh huh, and those teams don't usually win. How many world series have the A's won since the team started doing that? Boston, even the one that won, still has a very expensive roster.

Furthermore, Hockey is a cap sport, which kind of makes any money ball comparisons moot.

And Hockey is not like baseball.

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#134 Wax Man Riley
April 04 2013, 08:41PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

The Dynasty Oilers played an adjusted hybrid for the first three years and then they evolved into a more NHS style of system based 100% on Gretzkys brain. They played an aggressive stand-up defense and used an fast explosive backchecking forward style to dominate the neutral zone, you didnt dare give it up in the n-zone because everyone was a finisher and they all played defensive roles so they got more pucks than other offensive guys, people wont aknowledge the hard work double-shifting or PKing is on offensive players.

The System is so important because it contains as a core component a philosophy that influences everything it does on and off the ice. The system catalyses the tactics and decisions of the players coaches and managers and ensures they are all working together in a paralell direction and in unity. The system is the glue that bonds and the Gates of the City to defend, the system itself can vary techniclly but dyamiclly there is a winning template that must be followed for it to produce consistant wins and championships,there is not just one system tha can potentially win, there is of course a superior system. The system is the tatoo that everyone on the team has somewhere on their bodies either hidden or visible as per personal taste or Scars on the visible areas. It is where you fall back to to regroup and reenergise so you can reengage in battle.

Top of the scale is a superior system, bottom is a team of players who are ALL NHL average min. skillsets, now just find your spot on the scale where those two factors balance in your room and you are accurately assessing yourself for optimal potential resultswise.

So the old school Oilers use the NewAgeSystem?

Not that New Age is it?

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#135 Alsker
April 04 2013, 08:54PM
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"Not that New Age is it?"...hmm lets see system was: BE READY BE PROUD!(yes NAS 4 words)I think it dates back to Spartans maybe even Neanderthals, proven time and time again.

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#136 ginganinja
April 04 2013, 09:17PM
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Significantly less room in this one...

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#137 Alsker
April 04 2013, 09:28PM
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Nice PK..oh nice nother garbage call

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#138 Walter Sobchak
April 04 2013, 09:30PM
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What weak ass calls!!! Way to take the game away from the players ref! Your awesome!

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#139 Walter Sobchak
April 04 2013, 09:32PM
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This is a bloody joke.

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#140 Romanus
April 04 2013, 09:33PM
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Lets thank the refs for getting involved. Is mcgough here?

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#141 steelymac
April 04 2013, 09:36PM
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This is how we get f$cked out of a playoff spot.GARBAGE

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#142 steelymac
April 04 2013, 09:39PM
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steelymac wrote:

This is how we get f$cked out of a playoff spot.GARBAGE

And it wont be the first game this season.

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#143 NewAgeSys
April 04 2013, 09:41PM
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very nice Taylor, lip the ref off early and we pay for 60 mins, well at least we know where we stand, we need to score our way out of this.

For christsakes, they are breaking out of their zone four men wide, we need to wake up and put some pressure on them, and as far as penaltys go ask hall WTF he was doing.

We need to put more forechecking pressure on them, we cant screw this game up.

We need to stop them with a deep one man forecheck and leave the rest of oor coverage the same, just one rover breaking up their lateral approach, the rest of what we are doing is ok, we do need to lug the puck upice more, to skate it up hard and with support.

They have definately mixed it up since last game, and it doesnt look very effective.

Dont look for makeup calls on the PP, Taylor screwed that up for this game, so he better score a couple goals to make up for that stupid mout off.

Sam Gagner need to wake up his line, stay closer together and work the give and go, we need to stay close together as we attack so they are forced to take obvious calls of make the refs look as bad as possible, so its time to tighten up and keep it simple but takeit to the net of the give and gos.

They are setting up high on the blueline they cant stop themselves, they just found a new way to do it, so its easy to stop just interfere with their lateral approach coming out of their zone with a one man puck pursuit, DONT try to step up because thats why there are three or four of them on the line, they are waiting for that, just send in a one man puck pressure forcheck deep and allow him to check back into the playaction to stop their lateral strength from behind, send the froecheck in fast and early and work it back.

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#144 NewAgeSys
April 04 2013, 09:52PM
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We need to see some pressure on the goaltender, we need to throw at least one wraparound per period and make a point of it. Someone needs to drive a huge slapper past the goalies head early in the 2nd period, just one big one. We need to get them thinking.

Just because they are laterally stron going back the other way doesnt mean we should be challenging them with numbers immediatly when we get the puck, we can still attack them because we use speed and they are laterally strong but it is also a bit of an optical illusion because they are weak north/south and if you give er you can stil consistantly hit them down the middle and the wings if you penetrate deeply, so use an upspeed man initiated early in the n-zone.

Because they are dropping back from the n-zone in numbers and spaced laterally in a wide defensive posture it stuttersteps us and we do not go for it, we pause, we need to attack them with our speed, they cant match us in that dept.

Lets see some adjustments for the 2nd period so we can interrupt their first transition out of their zone, we know they use an adjusted hybrid so they catalyse off of that first d-zone exit, so lets take them out of their comfort zone out into deeper waters. Lets pick apart that first d-zone exit strategy and make them react to us. They are a mess in the n-zone, so just a one-man aggressive forecheck that goes deeeeep past them and then works back into the playaction with speed.

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#145 steelymac
April 04 2013, 09:58PM
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What are you talking about?You go on and on and on somemore about such great hockey knowledge and you got the balls to criticize Hall when it was an absolute joke call.From now on I will definately skip your posts cause you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground.watch the game instead of writing esays.

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#146 Oilcruzer
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This board needs a 140 character limit on posts.

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#147 NewAgeSys
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

So the old school Oilers use the NewAgeSystem?

Not that New Age is it?

No the Dynasty Oilers were in front of me or on my television,and because I created the NHS of course Wayne Gretzky influenced me a lot and especially his PP dynamic tactics.

You may piss off if you are inferring that the NHS isnt new or original.

I dont want to discuss the NHS here and now, not tonight with this game on the line, We cant implement the full NHS this year anyways, its to late for that and we dont really need to at this point.

The NHS is based off of 100% Intuative Dynamic Analysis, that happens to be how Wayne managed the game on the ice. There is no other system exclusively built and designed that way. It is an offense only system that doesnt use a conventional defense at all.

The Oilers need to stick to what they have found to be working right now, tweak a few small plays, but stay consistant. keep hitting the same spots and adjusting bit by bit.

Maybe we could see someone try for a deflection or two on the PP, lets get greasy already boys, we arent going to win them all nice and clean. Lets get some shots on net, two pretty trys and one big ugly one in that order.

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#148 steelymac
April 04 2013, 10:04PM
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@NewAgeSys

Your wearing out your keyboard for nothing.Sink your teeth into that.

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#149 NewAgeSys
April 04 2013, 10:09PM
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steelymac wrote:

What are you talking about?You go on and on and on somemore about such great hockey knowledge and you got the balls to criticize Hall when it was an absolute joke call.From now on I will definately skip your posts cause you dont know your ass from a hole in the ground.watch the game instead of writing esays.

You are a moron, Taylor knows better than to piss a ref off early in a game, and we all know that the replays hit the screen before the men are even in the box so what goddam good does lipping off the ref do?? You are an idiot and thinking like you do is what the Oilers have been trying to change. I dont care if you read my posts, you buffoon, why dont you post something hockey related instead of whining.

If you were watching the game instead of stealing oxygen from the rest of us you would already know these basic hockey concepts, like not pissing off a ref by being mouthy early in a game when you are struggleing to even be in the playoff race.

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#150 steelymac
April 04 2013, 10:13PM
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Nice!!!shortest post you have come up with keep them this size.

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