Goaltender trade target: Anaheim Ducks

Jonathan Willis
May 10 2013 12:35PM

If the Edmonton Oilers decide to look to trade to solve their need for a new backup/tandem goaltender (and given the weakness of the free agent crop, they may), the most obvious target is the Anaheim Ducks.

An Abundance of Riches

Player League Cap Hit Contract Summary
Jonas Hiller NHL $4.5MM UFA/2014 15-6-4, 0.913 SV% on the season, career 0.917 SV%.
Viktor Fasth NHL $2.9MM UFA/2015 15-6-2, 0.921 SV% on the season; 46GP, 0.934 SV% in SWE last year
F. Andersen AHL $1.8MM RFA/2014 24-18-1, 0.929 SV% on the season; 39GP, 0.943 SV% in SWE last year
John Gibson OHL $0.9MM RFA/2016 17-9-1, 0.928 SV% on the season; 7GP, 0.955 SV% in WJC this year
Igor Bobkov AHL $0.9MM RFA/2014 11-17-0, 0.903 SV% on the season ; 6'5" goalie is a rookie pro

There may not be a team in the league with a better goaltending system than the Ducks. In Hiller, they have a legitimate starter, in Fasth a guy who can compete for the starting job right now, in Andersen and especially Gibson two first-rate prospects, and in Bobkov a legitimate prospect arguably superior to anyone in the Oilers’ system right now.

The three guys worth really looking at for the Oilers are Hiller, Fasth and Andersen.

Jonas Hiller

Even with all the talent the Ducks have on the way, it seems a long shot that they would be willing to trade Hiller, their playoff starter (aside from a game two letdown, he has been tremendous against the Red Wings in the first round, with a 3-2 record and 0.930 SV%). At 31 years of age, he’s still in the prime of his career; the only reason his name can be included is because of the quality of Anaheim’s other goalies.

Viktor Fasth

In a shortened NHL campaign, Fasth managed to give Hiller a run for his money as starter, and his exceptional rookie performance in the NHL is backed by years of brilliance in Sweden. The negatives here are that he’s a little on the small side (6’, 186 pounds) and despite being a rookie he turns 31 in August. The Ducks might possibly be induced to move him because of the quality of prospects they have coming up (19-year old John Gibson has yet to play a season of professional hockey, but he’s already starring for Team USA at the World Championships); he would be a real threat to Dubnyk for the starting job if the Oilers could pry him loose.

Frederik Andersen

Andersen, already Denmark’s go-to goaltender in international competition, might be the best trade target of the group. He’s big (6’4”, 247 pounds), young (turns 24 in October) and unlike Hiller and Fasth hasn’t had a brilliant season in the NHL – yet. With Fasth in the majors, and Gibson turning pro, the Ducks just might be willing to move him and he’s bound to cost less than either of the team’s NHL ‘tenders. His AHL and SEL record is impeccable; based on his performances in those leagues he’s ready for a backup job in the NHL.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 brad doskas
May 10 2013, 12:49PM
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I would LOVE to see the team get an upgrade at this position! Not down on Dubbs, love the guy but... improvement could be had. FIST comment maybe about anaheims fistful of goalie depth.

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#2 Will
May 10 2013, 01:12PM
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Nice job searching outside the box named Mike Smith. A lot of these "who should the Oilers target" pieces look at established players who fit a mold instead of looking at the next big thing.

Nice to hear there might be other options out there other than the obvious.

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#3 Muji
May 10 2013, 01:15PM
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Viktor Fasth is exactly the type of 1B goaltender that the Oilers should be looking for.

Any Viktor Fasth-type players playing outside the NHL?

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#5 gcw_rocks
May 10 2013, 02:06PM
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I like Andersen as an option. Not too young and with some upside.

Nice analysis!!!

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#6 Ducey
May 10 2013, 02:17PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

Joacim Eriksson comes to mind as one possibility.

Why didn't Philly sign him? Its not like they have too many goalies.

BTW, thanks for these types of threads. They are much more informative than the "lets sign David 'the obvious target' Clarkson" threads.

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#7 FastOil
May 10 2013, 02:20PM
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At his size Andersen could also be the enforcer - and he'd always be on the ice when trouble starts.

I have never heard of a goalie that heavy, amazing he's fast enough.

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#8 Oiler Al
May 10 2013, 02:21PM
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What is with this Oilers, organization, can they not develop any player or position from within.

Seems every position they need, requires a trade, or UFA signing. The trades they did make in the past several years are all boardering on `duds`, and their really isnt anything exciting on the farm.

How about one of the scribes doing a write up on the Scouting` department of the Oilers org.

Where is player development with this team.

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#9 Supernova
May 10 2013, 03:01PM
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Jonathan,

If Pittsburgh doesn't make the finals.

Could you see a scenario where they buy-out Fleury and then go after one of the Ducks goalies.

They would seemed to be very ideal trading partners.

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#10 geno
May 10 2013, 03:14PM
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EDM really should take a shot at a guy like Andersen, Hellberg, or Svedberg. Current young AHL goalies for ANA, NSH, and BOS. Nashville might want to keep Andersen as a future backup, but Andersen and Svedberg are in a bit of a log jam with Rask, Khudobin, Hiller, Fasth, Gibson.

I'd like EDM to sign someone from Europe to a 2-way n let them play a bit in OKC to see if they've got anything with them. Guys like Antti Raanta, Alexander Salak, and Christian Engstrand

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#14 geno
May 10 2013, 03:48PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I could be wrong, but my assumption has always been that Boston was going to let Khudobin go and elevate Svedberg. Of course, they also have Malcolm Subban in the system.

then sign Khudobin!

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#15 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
May 10 2013, 03:56PM
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What's sad about all this, is if we had our own decent amateur scouting department, we wouldn't have to plunder everyone elses players/prospects.

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#16 andrewmk20
May 10 2013, 04:13PM
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@Next up, is Connor McJesus.

I don't think this is the issue of the scouting staff. Bunz was WHL goaltender of the year after being drafted and Olivier Roy has shown well albeit with some marked inconsistencies in his career. I think it's the Oilers player development coaches that are the issue because as soon as these kids leave their junior or european clubs and fall into the hands of the Oilers' system they seem to fall apart. Not just the goaltenders but guys like Pitlick, Hamilton, etc.

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#17 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
May 10 2013, 04:23PM
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@andrewmk20

Well said. Choosing them is one thing, developing them is another.

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#18 madjam
May 10 2013, 04:31PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Well said. Choosing them is one thing, developing them is another.

Should we send them elsewhere to develop , and where might that be ? What's your solution ?

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#19 Ducey
May 10 2013, 04:49PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Well said. Choosing them is one thing, developing them is another.

Waiting 5 years to properly judge whether they have developed is yet another.

You can't write off Bunz after his rookie season.

Look how his WHL stats went from year to year: .880, .886, .898, .919, .921.

Isn't it possible his pro stats will do the same once he learns how to be a pro?

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#20 106 and 106
May 10 2013, 04:50PM
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Wouldn't the cost for the top two goalies be enormous?

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#21 Citizen David
May 10 2013, 05:31PM
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Very interesting article. Keep them coming.

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#22 Citizen David
May 10 2013, 05:34PM
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I don't mind Khudobin as a backup next year.

On Fleury, the Pens need to cut him loose. Brutal.

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#23 Supernova
May 10 2013, 05:45PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

I can't imagine the Pens buying out Fleury; they seem pretty committed to him.

Not sure what you mean by committed to fleury.

They just started voukon after having goaltending problems the last few years.

The only reasons they are committed to him is he was a #1 pick and they won a cup with him, since then he has cost them at least one post-season and was on that path again this year.

Not sure if you have done a column based on potential compliance buy-outs this year lately but I think that would be a fun, and interactive column.

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#24 Dub t
May 10 2013, 05:58PM
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We won't get Gibson, unfortunately. However Anderson is interesting. Ben bishop was worth a second. Perhaps we can pull a similar deal. You have to think if we were in on bishop we would at least inquire here.

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#25 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
May 10 2013, 06:56PM
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@Ducey

Sure miss the days of a goalie stepping in right out of junior and into the NHL. Kids like Barrasso,Fuhr,Moog,Roy etc. Nowadays a guy is pretty much UFA eligible before a team knows if he's even a starter or not(Dubnyk). I mean, how difficult can it be to stop a 3oz puck travelling at only 100+ MPH, it's not rocket science.

Between the talent challenged teams relying so heavily on systems play, and the broad over coaching in general of all players, it's no wonder it takes these kids the better part of a decade before they know if they're ready. Must be a conspiracy hidden in there somewhere, I can't quite put a finger on it yet there Ducey, but give me a couple weeks and i'll figure it out. Think there's a monetary link there I could start with?

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#26 Spydyr
May 11 2013, 10:30AM
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When you miss the playoffs for seven straight years the whole organization should be looked at.From owner down to stick boy.Since they already fired the trainers , equipment men, three coaches and a GM.It is obvious the problem lies higher up. Unfortunately the owner and six rings are not going anywhere anytime soon.

That leaves the players.With the losing record every position is in need of an upgrade .Goalie included.Dubbie is not the biggest problem but if you can get better in goal.Get better in goal.

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#27 fatso
May 11 2013, 10:43AM
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we need another Ryan, I think miller is looking to move west and I like his play.

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#28 Fresh Mess
May 11 2013, 11:42PM
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I have a hunch that Ben Scrivens could be had for very cheap. I think he would be a good fit as back up, and cheap cap hit.

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#29 NewAgeSys
May 12 2013, 04:45AM
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andrewmk20 wrote:

I don't think this is the issue of the scouting staff. Bunz was WHL goaltender of the year after being drafted and Olivier Roy has shown well albeit with some marked inconsistencies in his career. I think it's the Oilers player development coaches that are the issue because as soon as these kids leave their junior or european clubs and fall into the hands of the Oilers' system they seem to fall apart. Not just the goaltenders but guys like Pitlick, Hamilton, etc.

Dont stop now,keep running with this line of thought.

The Oilers system is an epic trainwreck.It has destroyed many players and professionals of all types.Everyone except the tyrant behind protecting and maintaining it.

The Oilers are over-saturated with statistical influences and inputs,this has been part of a long process od decay not a landslide or sudden change,everyone is protectionist and uses stats to back every decision they make in a self-centered manner,no one is willing to step away from the percieved safety of the stats long enough to make a real decision on anything.Managments intangible skillsets are handcuffed by this statistical safety net they are forced to use.

One systemic influence is supposed to tell all of our men what to do at the same time,please understand this concept,if that influence is inferior or flawed then nothing will ever run smoothly.we have always had the best men for the job here,we have strove for greatness from a personell perspective,but the system template we apply them to has been inferior and flawed for decades,the system is a dandy if you have Wayne Gretzky here to run it or Moma2 to become Waynes Brains,but without the keys to start it its a dud.

We havent had a decent system here in decades,the NewAge Hockey System is far better than anything we have come up with here in a long time,its philosophys are Intuition based not statisticlly based.The polar opposite of what the Oilers believe in.

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