IMPROVING THE "D" IS THE KEY

Jason Gregor
May 02 2013 09:52AM

No one does better Stanley Cup montages than CBC. The energy inside the arena during a playoff game is one of the best sporting experiences a fan/media can have. It is electric, and CBC's opening montage illustrated it perfectly. I defy you to watch that and not yearn to be at a game. The seven-year drought gets older by the second, especially when you watch that video and are reminded how awesome the energy, atmosphere and pass of playoff games are.

If the Oilers are ever going to return to the wonderland known as playoffs, they will need to upgrade their blueline. That must be priority number one for Craig MacTavish this summer.

The Oilers don't have a top-pairing D-man right now.

Justin Schultz might become one, while Jeff Petry and Ladislav Smid are #3 and #4 respectively. Finding a top-pairing defender isn't easy, however, many teams have acquired them via trade in recent memory, so it isn't impossible. Chris Pronger, Brian Campbell, Dion Phaneuf, Francois Beauchemin, Kevin Shattenkirk, Dustin Byfuglien, Jack Johnson and Erik Johnson have all been moved in the past five seasons.

 Here's a quick recap of what the Oilers blueline accomplished on the ice this season: 

Player  GP  G  A  P +/-  PIM  PP  SH  GW  S  TOI 
                       
Justin Schultz 48 8 19 27 -17 8 4 0 3 85           1,029:35
Ryan Whitney 34 4 9 13 -7 23 0 0 0 30               628:14
Jeff Petry 48 3 9 12 1 29 0 1 0 66           1,051:38
Nick Schultz 48 1 8 9 -13 24 0 0 0 33               894:21
Mark Fistric 25 0 6 6 6 32 0 0 0 9              383:20
Corey Potter 33 3 1 4 8 6 0 0 0 36               575:59
Ladislav Smid 48 1 3 4 -1 55 0 0 0    30               975:18
Theo Peckham 4 0 0 0 -1 6 0 0 0 2                 70:33
                       
Totals 48 20 55 75 -24 183 4 1 3 291            5,248:58

 J.Schultz was great offensively, but he struggled mightily in his own zone. I expected that, because it is difficult for any rookie to play sound defence, especially when he had a plethora of young forwards on the ice with him.

Petry had three short stretches where he produced offensively. He had five points in the first five games of their season-long eight-game road trip, and then he had two other stretches of three points in three games. The rest of the season he added very little offence. He had only three more points than N. Schultz who is a classic stay-at-home defender.

In the second half of the 2012 season, Petry was very good. He had 18 points in 37 games, was up in the play more often and he delivered some solid body checks to attacking forwards. It looked like he had figured out what style he needed to play to be successful.

However, this year we barely saw any of that. Petry wasn't involved offensively, and rarely delivered any bodychecks. Petry has the tools to be a very good #3, but he needs to use them. The Oilers have to find a way to light a fire under him, and keep it lit all season.

Smid is a solid defensive D-man. He won't bring a lot of offence, and you'd like him to move the puck up to the forwards quicker, however, he is one of the few Oilers who shows a competitive fire every game. The Oilers know what they have in Smid. A solid #4 defender who will kill penalties and play against the top lines.

If N. Schultz is on your third pairing next season, then the Oilers D will be better. He isn't a top-four D-man anymore, but he could be a great mentor beside Oscar Klefbom for one season.

Corey Potter has one year left on his contract, but if N.Schultz is in your bottom pair, I don't see where Potter fits in. You can't have two non-physical, non-offensive defenders as a pair. If the Oilers moved N.Schultz then Potter could replace him in the 3rd pair, but if they are a tandem next season MacTavish will have struck out trying to improve his backend.

Fistric is the only physical/hitting defender they have. He doesn't bring much offence, isn't a great puck mover and sometime puts himself out of the play going for the big hit, but at least he brings a specific role to the team. The Oilers have way too many players who don't score, don't hit, don't fight and don't compete. Fistric at least brings a few of these characteristics. I suspect the Oilers will try to make a few trades first, and if they don't land the D-men they need they will bring Fistric back.

Whitney and Peckham will be free agents and moving on.

WHO CAN THEY GET?

Mark Streit is a pending UFA, however he is 35 years old. He could play in their top pair and help on the PP, but the Oilers won't win in the playoffs if Petry, J.Schultz and Streit are all in their top-three. If they sign Streit, then I suspect they would move Petry for a different type of defender. I wouldn't sign him.

Shea Weber is a pipedream for Oiler fans. They can't trade for him until late July, and I doubt the Preds will move him, but the Oilers can't afford to miss out on deals at the draft or via free agency.

The rest of the UFA crop doesn't look great. There are a lot of offensive D-men who used to be good, but now they are at the end of their career: Sergei Gonchar, Roman Hamrlik, Adrian Aucoin, Marek Zidlicky, Tom Poti, Toni Lydman, Michal Rozsival and Wade Redden. I doubt the Oilers add one of them.

One player I'd look at is Ben Lovejoy. The Ducks acquired him from Pittsburgh in February for a 5th round pick, and now Lovejoy is in their top-four. He's not a top-pairing defender, but you could get him for a good price. However, I suspect he'll re-sign with the Ducks after/during the playoffs. If he was available on July 5th (date free agency starts this year), I'd be calling his agent.

The Oilers best bet to upgrade their blueline is likely going to come via trade. I believe the Oilers will move two or three of their skilled forwards who aren't named Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle and Yakupov.

RFA

There are many very good RFA D-men, but I don't see the Oilers making an offer sheet to any of them. The Oilers don't have enough depth to surrender two or more 1st round picks at this point. If this team was one or two players away from being a serious contender, then I could see them considering it, but they'd be better off trying to make a trade.

Alex Pietrangelo, Kevin Shattenkirk, Zach Bogosian, Ryan McDonagh, David Rundblad and Carl Gunnarsson are all pending RFAs. Shattenkirk might get into a contract squabble with the Blues. The Blues will offer him a deal similar to the one P.K Subban got, and he likely won't like it. I'm not sure I'd want to pay him $4-$5 million right away, but you know his agent will be looking for a big pay day.

Upgrading the backend has to be priority #1 for MacTavish, however, when you look at the free agent list it won't be that easy.

The Oilers have four decent offensive assets to dangle in a trade: Ales Hemsky, Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi and the #7 pick. MacTavish is a huge fan of Gagner's character and how he has developed, but if the right deal was there I wonder if he'd move him.

If the Oilers are serious about upgrading their blueline, and MacTavish said he was prepared to make some "bold moves," trading one of those four assets is the only way to do it.

The Oilers don't need any more 3rd pairing defenders, they need a top-two D-man.

PARTING SHOTS...

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#51 Mave
May 02 2013, 01:51PM
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Boyd Devereaux made this Leaf's playoff trailer. Pretty cool and a players perspective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8kP279DjzY&feature=youtu.be

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#52 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2013, 01:51PM
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One thing Jasmine did mention that made sense, is getting rid of all the rif raf throughout the entire league. Every team would have a Gretzky,Bossy,Orr,Coffey,Messier,Fuhr,Crosby,Lemieux,Weber and Potvin clones. On Fan Appreciation night, every fan attending leaves with an autographed 10lb bag of Soylent Green, made from all the players of the losing team.

That's original, we have to give her that one.

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#53 Eddie Edmonton
May 02 2013, 02:09PM
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Mac T is trying to dress Gagner up. I can't really see what else, other his character-he could have praised.

I believe Oilers will trade for Joe Thornton in the summer, look for Gagner in that package. Signing Iginla is a possibility as well.

I can see the Oilers packaging Petry for a better/experienced Dman. Smid, Klefbom, Schlultz and Schultz with two new men is what the Oilers defense will look like next year.

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#54 oliveoilers
May 02 2013, 02:18PM
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This just in.....Pens agree to Crosby and Malkin for rights to Linus Omark, Jerrod Smithson and a fourth rounder. Trade to take place immediatley, with Omark lacing them up for next game. OGDP: Smithson hattie, Peace out;-)

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#55 j
May 02 2013, 02:37PM
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Jason - what teams are most likely in need of cap space relief? I think these may be the best spot for MacT to shop. Instead of targeting a particular player, he needs to target soft spots in the market and make pitches. Predatory sales. The other obvious group are the potential buy-out candidates this summer. Who leads that list? Thanks.

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#56 yawto
May 02 2013, 02:40PM
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I want what madjam is smoking cause it must be real good. Lmao.

Horcov, N.Schultz, District and a first rounder for the guy who would be the #1 D on team Canada. Why wouldn't Nashville jump at that offer.

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#57 Mikey
May 02 2013, 02:50PM
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One thing most people are forgetting is there will be a few buyouts this summer.

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#58 WhattaMike
May 02 2013, 02:55PM
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Those who keep supporting/talking trades for Weber, Luongo Crosby and/or Malkin.....by even including one of our kids (Hall, Ebs, RNH, Yak) in the package.....Please go back to sleep or work off from being drunk/stoned.

First of all,if was a GM..... there is no way I would want any overpaid huge contracts to hurt my salary cap like any of those high end players would be.

Example....Anyone out there actually notice exactly at all as to why Vancouver can't trade Luongo nfor almosyt two years now?...The CONTRACT!!!!!

A good trade for a top end player would be only by involving Gagner, and/or Hemsky, and/or Paajarvi, and/or the 7th pick (2013) and/or 1st round choice in 2014, etc, along with some prospects.

Next is that I would only go after young enough defensive players....in trades such as Tyler Myers (BUF), Hamonic (NYI), Shattenkirk (ST.L), etc, and then add one of say....Streit (UFA - NYI) in order to build up the future defence on this team. We have Klefbom coming now, with Schultz, Schultz, Smid, Petry already here.

I would like to see the following of:

J. Schultz - Klefbom Smid - Petry Streit/Myers/Hamonic/Shattenkirk - N. Schultz

Extra - Potter,Fistric.

For a goalie to be with Dubnyk, the Oil should definitely look at Mike Smith (Pho)or Kudobin (Bos).

If we were to keep the 7th pick and or deal it to draft up (at least to the #3 - #4 -#5 position, then we should go after any of MacKinnon, Monahan, Barkov, or Lindholm for that 2nd line centre position.

Then we try to sign UFA's like Horton (BOS), Iginla (Pit), Clowe (PIT), Clarke (NJ), etc for the wings.

This is what I am doing if I were GM....for starters. Don't know much about ya all...being other armchair GM's....but those ideas i stated above are very decent possibilities and realistic too.....in order to move up and upgrade from what we have now.

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#59 MarcusBillius
May 02 2013, 02:55PM
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Jason, you do know that Jack Johnson is bad at his job, right? He has quite bad positioning and in general suspect hockey IQ/play awareness. He's gotten better over the years, but he'd be a second-pairing dman on a decent team. His one good year in LA, he was actually on the third pairing and facing the softest opposition.

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#60 RSD
May 02 2013, 03:19PM
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@DSF

I believe you may be selling these guys a little short, even though Ales is made of glass his skill is still a commodity, with a change of scenery he could be better than he is here ( tired of losing ). Paarjarvi would probably develop better if he is around a more compitent group of veterans. If we are to get any quality of d-man it would have to do a 3-for-1 and not including the 7th pick. Gags we keep unless its to trade for another centerman ( package deal of some sort ).

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#61 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2013, 03:26PM
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Not sure if this has been brought up before, apologies in advance if it has.

MacTavish could put a package together, give David Poile a call, and see if he could pry Shea Weber from their grasp. They'd still have Josi and all those other 4 thru 7 types. That would solve a lot of problems here on the Oilers backend.

Git'er done MacT!

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#62 Wax Man Riley
May 02 2013, 03:28PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Not sure if this has been brought up before, apologies in advance if it has.

MacTavish could put a package together, give David Poile a call, and see if he could pry Shea Weber from their grasp. They'd still have Josi and all those other 4 thru 7 types. That would solve a lot of problems here on the Oilers backend.

Git'er done MacT!

lol

I had to props that

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#63 BigOil
May 02 2013, 03:28PM
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My Armchair GM skills are a little rusty but here goes...

Give Nathan Hortan whatever he wants.

Give the Blues a call and see which RWer and ANYTHING else they want for either Shattenkirk or Backes.

If you can get Backes, sign Streit. If you get Shattenkirk, sign Kanpopka till something better comes along.

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#65 PutzStew
May 02 2013, 03:39PM
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If I was building a winning team I would start with

Kevin Lowe for Anyone not already associated with the Oilers.

I would love a Lowe for Burke trade. They are both A$$es but at least Burke makes me laugh. And he's ring is from this century. Doesn't matter whom is brought in to man the ice, this is a losing team starting at the top, and until that gets fixed, it gonna stay a loser team.

@ Jason, Lowtide and every one else that keep mentioning it. Why would think a 36 year old, veteran blue liner and have the expectations that he will perform well enough to meet those expectations on the first pairing. Let me pull a Willis/Staples/COH thing here and be the downer on this situation. Here is why it is not a good idea:

1) How much are you going to have to over pay him to come to Edmonton. No offense but there are 29 other place he might be able to end up and out of those 29 at least one of them will be a better option then Edmonton.

2) If there isn't a bidding war for him and Oilers do get him cheap, I have to ask, why is there so little interest in this guy.

3) If by some chance he does come here how do you expect him to meet the expectation set out by the team and fans. The list of veteran player who have come to Edmonton and succeeded is pretty small compared to the number that have come in recently and actually met the expectations put upon them. See Belanger, Souray, Eager, Smyth, etc. etc. for reference.

Sorry but until I actually see them competing for the play-offs, this is a losing team.

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#66 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2013, 03:40PM
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Spydyr wrote:

That is why I said

Go to bed your drunk.

Now now Spydyr.

You know how proper spelling, punctuation and grammer is very dear to our hearts here on Oilersnation. I'm not going to pick on anything that you've done but....

You's,your,you're, you'did'dat, who'dat. 3 are correct, and two haven't been invented yet. Please choose wisely fellow hockey brethren. You don't happen to know Shea Weber personally at all, do you Spydyr?

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#67 vetinari
May 02 2013, 03:57PM
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You all do realize that Jim Poile is not Mike Milbury, right?

Leaving aside the insane fanboy trade proposals, we all agree that we need at least one to two new, veteran faces on the blue line for next year. The real question is who might become available between now and September and at what price. I suspect that we will likely have to go the trade route rather than the UFA route but time will tell.

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#68 EHH Team
May 02 2013, 04:01PM
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madjam wrote:

Weber will not command as much as you think . They are trying to dump that contract remember . Taking over that contract will scare most everyone away - so you don't also have to give equal value back onn top of taking on that contract . I may have even given up to much . Word of note : I mentioned Fistric in two trades - my mistake . Two usable defence and a center of NHL caliber should be plenty .

Why are they dumping the contract? They'll have paid out $26 Million (24% of the entire contract value) before he becomes eligible to be traded in July. I don't think the Nashville owner will be happy to swallow having spent $26 Million for a 48 game season.

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#69 2004Z06
May 02 2013, 04:02PM
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Someone please explain how on earth Oiler fans think they can get Weber? He cannot be traded until the 24th of July yet he gets a 13 mil paycheque on July 1st. Why would Nashville trade him 3 weeks after cutting that cheque? I imagine he wont be traded until the deadline or after the signing bonus years are over.

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#70 madjam
May 02 2013, 04:18PM
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EHH Team wrote:

Why are they dumping the contract? They'll have paid out $26 Million (24% of the entire contract value) before he becomes eligible to be traded in July. I don't think the Nashville owner will be happy to swallow having spent $26 Million for a 48 game season.

Clarification : Poile would lose Weber for 4 rounds picks to a team that looked to be upper eschilon and return might have been minimal . He took a gamble that they could get a better return by matching the offer . I don't see any offer of three Nhl'ers and a first rounder with immediate help for them , that any other team can/will beat that offer . The offer sheet and terms were not their proposal remember ! I think we could get him even without the first rounder t be honest if we swallow part of the signing bonus to help them out .

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#72 Quicksilver ballet
May 02 2013, 04:34PM
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Buyout Details for Shea Weber, not suggesting it will happen, but it's already up on capgeek, and if there's smoke on capgeek, there's fire.

SEASON,SALARY,CAP HIT,BUYOUT,SAVINGS,BUYOUT CAP HIT

2013-14 $14,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $11,538,462 -$3,681,319 2014-15 $14,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $11,538,462 -$3,681,319 2015-16 $14,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $11,538,462 -$3,681,319 2016-17 $12,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $9,538,462 -$1,681,319 2017-18 $12,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $9,538,462 -$1,681,319 2018-19 $6,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $3,538,462 $4,318,681 2019-20 $6,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $3,538,462 $4,318,681 2020-21 $6,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $3,538,462 $4,318,681 2021-22 $6,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $3,538,462 $4,318,681 2022-23 $3,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 $538,462 $7,318,681 2023-24 $1,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 -$1,461,538 $9,318,681 2024-25 $1,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 -$1,461,538 $9,318,681 2025-26 $1,000,000 $7,857,143 $2,461,538 -$1,461,538 $9,318,681 2026-27 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2027-28 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2028-29 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2029-30 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2030-31 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2031-32 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2032-33 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2033-34 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2034-35 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2035-36 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2036-37 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2037-38 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538 2038-39 $0 $0 $2,461,538 -$2,461,538 $2,461,538

Attention Craig MacTavish!

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#74 Oilbridge
May 02 2013, 04:58PM
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Gregor, you see a possible trade fit between the oilers and the blues. They have a few key guys coming off their ELC'S, pietroangelo and shattenkirk, Stewart. The blues are more of a budget team and may not be able to keep everyone. You see any chances of the oilers trading for Bouwmeester? He would be that perfect top 2 LH puck moving and great skating dman.he's not overly physically but he's so good positionally so he can get away from that. He also rarely misses a game too. Given what the blues had to give up to get him. I think the oil can put something together to get him. He also doesn't have his NTC and may now be matured enough to be able to handle playing in his hometown. Would love to hear your thoughts?

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#75 Wax Man Riley
May 02 2013, 05:01PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Now now Spydyr.

You know how proper spelling, punctuation and grammer is very dear to our hearts here on Oilersnation. I'm not going to pick on anything that you've done but....

You's,your,you're, you'did'dat, who'dat. 3 are correct, and two haven't been invented yet. Please choose wisely fellow hockey brethren. You don't happen to know Shea Weber personally at all, do you Spydyr?

lol

had to props u again.

Man I hope MacT gets Weber. Opening night at the Pint would be a blast

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#76 Oiltimer
May 02 2013, 05:06PM
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No doubt some armchair GM out there will/might guess the correct trade/signing/acquisitions. But it may not be anything like we've seen or thought of so far, probably won't. If it was as easy as all that to GM, these fellows wouldn't be worth what they have to pay them...and that's leaving the dealing with criticism that they must do aside.

My small observation is: I don't see the team playing good solid team D. Most of the hot teams kill the concept of team D ... the Oilers do not. That is, in part, a coaching problem and that relates directly to maintaining the same system over a longer period of time so the players, especially veterns, can be comfortable within the system. 5 coaches in 5 or whatever years just does NOT cut it. In my mind this is why often a good player in one system is not so productive in another. I think Lupil is an example of that although he's not D the fact is he didn't fit here. The square peg round hole syndrom.

If a player's job is to bang bodies that's the same in whichever system, but to contribute beyond that takes adjustment to the system. THis requires a special talent or a player used to adjusting. My contention is that often a poor GM will not add this to the equasion or undervalue it. I think with lower skill level players the adjustment may take longer or not take place at all. This is why a Belanger/ Eager/Fistric may not pan out and also why you keep a marginal player who knows the system ... even a guy like Peckham. I think that once the get all these fine horses going in the same direction we will be sucessful. IMHO

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#77 CM
May 02 2013, 05:10PM
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Would an Eberle for Myers trade work at all from either side?

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#78 admiralmark
May 02 2013, 05:19PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

He played the most minutes in Columbus...And 5th most of any D in the league. He was traded for Jeff Carter, so suggesting he isn't a top-pairing D might be a tad premature.

He is maturing as a D-man... He isn't in top-15 of the league, but he's sure in the top-60.

-8.1 in Corsi Relative this year. :S

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#79 westcoastoil
May 02 2013, 05:36PM
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CM wrote:

Would an Eberle for Myers trade work at all from either side?

that's too much for Myers

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#80 EHH Team
May 02 2013, 05:48PM
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madjam wrote:

Clarification : Poile would lose Weber for 4 rounds picks to a team that looked to be upper eschilon and return might have been minimal . He took a gamble that they could get a better return by matching the offer . I don't see any offer of three Nhl'ers and a first rounder with immediate help for them , that any other team can/will beat that offer . The offer sheet and terms were not their proposal remember ! I think we could get him even without the first rounder t be honest if we swallow part of the signing bonus to help them out .

The cash would be the key to getting this done IMO

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#81 Eddie Shore
May 02 2013, 05:54PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Someone please explain how on earth Oiler fans think they can get Weber? He cannot be traded until the 24th of July yet he gets a 13 mil paycheque on July 1st. Why would Nashville trade him 3 weeks after cutting that cheque? I imagine he wont be traded until the deadline or after the signing bonus years are over.

I have been saying this for the last few days on here. If he does get moved, I can't see it happening until the deadline or prior to July 1 next year. He recieves $13M bonuses for the next 3 years and $8M bonuses for the two after that. He doesn't recieve a "normal" salary until the 2018-2019 season. Once he is on the annual $6M salary I could see him being moved as his cap hit is only slightly higher at $7,857,143. That is, of course, if his play is still at a level that justifies that amount of money.

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#82 gr8one
May 02 2013, 06:14PM
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My dream offseason.

Lecavalier gets bought out by the TBL. Signs a value contract with the Oilers.

Get lucky and Monahan be available at pick #7.

Sign UFA's Ryan Clowe, Viktor Stalberg, Anton Khudobin and Mark Streit.

Somehow, someway acquire Alex Pietrangelo whether it be trade or offer sheet, due to the above moves Gagner and Hemsky become expendable so perhaps something like Gagner/Gernat/another prospect and our 2015 first round pick nets us Pietrangelo??

Hall/Nuge/Eberle, Clowe/Lecavalier/Yakupov, PRV/Monahan/Stalberg, Smyth/Horcoff/Hartikainen,

Streit/Pieterangelo, Smid/J.Schultz, Klefbom/Petry, Potter/Schultz

Hemsky and others not listed either traded for future assets(picks/prospects) or just let go(Khabi, Whitney, etc)

A lineup like that would give us size, compete level and experience mixed with our youth and versatility with players that can move up and down the lineup depending on injury/effectiveness.

As far fetched and extreme as all of that sounds...MacT did say that there could be as manyy or more as 8 new Oilers Next season. That scenario would be 7 new Oilers.

#onecandream

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#83 Citizen David
May 02 2013, 06:15PM
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Randaman wrote:

I really don't understand this love affair with Larrson. Too timid for my liking. We already have Petry & N. Schultz in that catagory. Shattenkirk or Hedman would be an improvement. Why has nobody thought of going after Jack Johnson. We could swap picks with Columbus and offer Hemsky to sweeten the deal. Then Lazar would be available at 14 I believe. Then we throw whatever it takes at Pittsburgh for Malkin. Center problem solved.

I would do this. Minus the Malkin part. Johnson isn't a number one Defensemen but he is a number two. It would be an upgrade and unless we're trading Eberle, it's probably about the best we can do. Then we find a second Ladislav Smid and dump N. Schultz. Not the best defense, but an improvement on this year and serviceable until our solid prospects are ready.

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#84 Citizen David
May 02 2013, 06:17PM
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I have also always been a huge fan of Ryan Ellis.

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#85 Citizen David
May 02 2013, 06:41PM
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Any trade scenario involving Weber must start with Eberle. Not just to make it actually interesting for Nashville but also with Weber's massive contract coming in we would have to ship out Eberle's 6 million a year.

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#86 geno
May 02 2013, 06:47PM
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Unlikely one of Marc Staal or Dan Girardi'd be available, but if they are EDM should put in their best offer. Need a shut down top pairing D man to mentor J Schultz.

Food for thought

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#87 DrunkGuyTy
May 02 2013, 07:15PM
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Re: CBC Montage

Unfortunately 80% of the hits in the clip are now illegal. Having just witnessed Eller get his bell rung 2mins before I watched the video, the hit at 2:10 is identical. Eller was hurt as a result of little guy getting hit by a big.

The montage does portray hockey in all its glory; too bad it's deteriorated so much in recent years. Instead we get to watch little mouthpieces delay the game after every whistle chirping behind their football pads and hiding behind refs.

And since it was Montreal, I'm sure we'll hear about the threat of lawsuits and crying about it for the next two years.

Back in the day, the guy who made the pass would have had to deal more so with his own team mates.

...and so the pussification continues. All the best to Eller - I hope he recovers quickly.

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#88 @Oilanderp
May 02 2013, 07:21PM
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After reading the article and all the comments, I have realized two things:

1. Some fans here couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel.

2. The Oilers are screwed. SCREWED. I mean sure some FAs might shake loose via compliance buyouts but maaan, it doesn't look good. MacT really has his work cut out.

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#89 Boxman
May 02 2013, 07:28PM
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Alright people, enough is enough. Before you the guilty decide to open your mouths and confirm what most of us already know try to see your trade epiphanies from both sides. F**K it. That was stupidly optimistic. Please just step in front of a bus..

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#90 madjam
May 02 2013, 07:35PM
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The cash would be the key to getting this done IMO

My Acting GM was only examples . Personally I'd rather chase Subban or similar . I wouldn't touch Weber and his contract if I were Gm , but he is available .

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#91 clyde
May 02 2013, 07:42PM
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I believe you may be selling these guys a little short, even though Ales is made of glass his skill is still a commodity, with a change of scenery he could be better than he is here ( tired of losing ). Paarjarvi would probably develop better if he is around a more compitent group of veterans. If we are to get any quality of d-man it would have to do a 3-for-1 and not including the 7th pick. Gags we keep unless its to trade for another centerman ( package deal of some sort ).

No, all are very soft. Hemsky is made of glass and at 5 million with the cap going down, no one will want his potential 40 points.

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#92 TeddyTurnbuckle
May 02 2013, 07:50PM
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Jason I agree we need two new D-men and hopefully one of them isn't Marincin because he ain't ready. I guess we will have to see how klefbom looks but Smid was a top 10 pick and it took him 5 years to become an average defencemen. If we have 2 rookie defencemen next year we are in trouble. (Mac-T you better not trade the 2014 1st pick cause it could be a lottery winner) As crappy as the free agent list is this year I believe the Oliers can take advantage of the cap going down next year and take on some salary via trade. Nothing like Luongo but some one with 2 or 3 years left on their deal. Wouldn't surprise if Brian Campbell became avaliable even though he has a NTC. The Oilers need to spend to the Cap next year if we want any chance of making the playoffs.

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#93 AGUY
May 02 2013, 08:22PM
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Improving the D is hardly the key. I do agree it is still important we improve our D, but the 'key', without a doubt in my mind, is removing our seemingly endless list of ineffective forwards, and fixing the chemistry of the forward lines. I can perceive 4 new 3rd or 4th liners next year and maybe 2 new d-men. I don't want to pick names out of a hat, but I believe a guy like Raffi Torres, the former Oiler, would be a nice pickup. He always shows up in the playoffs despite subtle inconsistencies in the regular season. I suspect he could be had at a reasonable rate. This would be a good start as he is certainly not a "non-factor" type guy. I have a feeling Gagner could be packaged this off-season, and sadly, one of my favourites, Ales Hemsky (5M/per), could be gone as well. Personally, I hope we all end up regretting a Hemsky trade. Someone here brought it up already, and I could see this happening as well - trading Petry. He is young now, so his value is high, but if the Oil can do one of those "best-player" trades where they give up a guy or two they don't want to for a player that would be valued as the best one in the trade, it wouldn't hurt anything. Petry will never have the scorers touch, anyway, IMHO. Klefbom isn't far away either. If these moves ever did happen to occur, we'd have a new top pairing of J.Schultz and the new acquisition. The forward lines would be tougher and the chemistry improved. Hemmer and Gags are the bottom end of our top skill and something has to give, so if any guys need to go, sadly, tough decisions need to be made, and they may be the ones to go. Too much of the same, sadly, so out with them and in with some sizeable players that can be a threat to score nightly.

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#94 The Soup Fascist
May 02 2013, 08:29PM
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I am thinking we get Katz to buy a DeLorean and offer consultant contracts to Marty Mcfly and Doc Brown. We go back 30 years and bring back 1983 Wayne Gretzky c/w Daoust skates with blue plastic blade holders.

Then we package Gretzky (along with rights to Linus Omark) for Shea Weber. No way the Preds can turn that deal down. Easy peasy.

I realize there may be a couple wrinkles in the plan, but there are others listed in this forum that are less likely to occur.

You are welcome, MacT.

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#95 vetinari
May 02 2013, 09:16PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You do realize that it is David Poile, right? Sorry, but I had to...

You do know that Jim Poile is my dry cleaner, and he is way smarter than Mike Milbury... That and I don't have time to proofread when I'm posting from work...

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#96 madjam
May 02 2013, 09:17PM
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When you consider we have probably had the worst core over last 3-4 years in the entire league (overpaid or not ) it should not be that difficult to upgrade and save money ! Almost anything could be an upgrade on some of our core . We are scratching bottom of barrel for far too long .

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#97 michael
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I heard MacTs comment regarding footspeed and transition and blah blah. I could not be anymore in disagreement with him regarding the kind of defenceman we need. I would rather we have more Don Jackson- Craig Muni-Mark Fistric kind of defencemen. I look at our team toughness and when you take out Fistric and Peckham our backend is softer than a roll of Purex rapper paper. There is no threat of any kind of physicality from the top 4 of Smid,Petry,N Shultz and J Shultz. We need more aggresivness from our backend. More fear in the opponents eyes when they enter our d zone. That does not exist as right now. And guess what happens. LA St Louis,Anaheim and SanJose just absolutely run our show. Is that going to improve with more soft puck moving dmen out of the NCAA? We need some meaness.Chara is the dman he is because he plays to his size and is one dirt mean sob. He'd kick your head rather than let you show him up. Respect to guys like Karlson and Doughty. But on this Oilers team we need our functional toughness to extend all the way into our end. Not just on the wings.

Back in the day Semenko was the guy. But he also had guys on the ice who were the other guy. Don Jackson, Craig Muni,Pat Hughes, Dave Hunter and Dave Lumley.

MacT is right about our 3rd and 4 th lines not being good enough. But if he goes out this summer and is shopping perhaps he might bring in a Dylan MacIlrath too to augment his "teams toughness" on the backend. He isn't pretty but I'll take it over another NCAA dman who does nothing to stop the cycle. Need a couple of pitbulls in place of the Yorkies we currently are relying on in our top 6. I could do with less Potter and N Shultz.

Team toughness is a myth on this team. MacT needs to address it throughout the lineup.

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Hey Gregor,

I know last off season we were discussing mark methot.

He looked pretty good tonight playing with Karlsson, and I can't help but think how he would have looked this year with Justin.

We need 2 NHL defenseman, and this team will improve a boatload. It would push everyone down a notch and let some of the youth develop next year in OKC.

I can't wait to see this team with Dubnyk playing as well as he is and with a real Defence. Could be pretty scary.

Scary good....

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#99 Quicksilver ballet
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Alright people, enough is enough. Before you the guilty decide to open your mouths and confirm what most of us already know try to see your trade epiphanies from both sides. F**K it. That was stupidly optimistic. Please just step in front of a bus..

Shifts uncomfortably in chair, gently scratches head, and thinks under his breath, is he talking about me? nah, there's no buses running out here anyways, and how does he know so much about me already.

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#100 Cody anderson
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I would like to see them trade Hmsky and our 1st to get into the 4th spot and draft Barkov.

Then trade Gagner to the Leafs for Gardner.

Gardner and J Schultz played together in College and both have the potential to be top pairing Dmen.

Barkov could be the big centreman we have wanted for our top 6

A D-corps consisting of

Gardner - J Schultz

Smid - Petry

Klefbom - N Schultz

with Fistric as your 7th is not as big and mean as I would like, but sure looks like it could develop nicely.

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