THE OILERS AND THE COMBINE LIST

Lowetide
May 20 2013 03:15PM

We're just a few weeks away from the 2013 NHL Entry Draft. The Edmonton Oilers have stocked the cupboards with #1 overall's and many picks inside the top 100 since 2010, and this year's draft will feature three early picks (unless there's a trade). There's a very good chance we know their names as of today: the NHL combine list has been released.

If we go back over the past 5 seasons and match the Combine list against the Oilers picks inside the top 100, we come up with the following:

2008 Oilers draft

  • Jordan Eberle selected #22 overall, ranked #29 (attended combine)
  • Johan Motin selected #103 overall, unranked (attended combine)
  • Phil Cornet selected #133 overall
  • Teemu Hartikainen selected #163 overall
  • Jordan Bendfeld selected #193 overall

2009 Oilers draft

  • Magnus Paajarvi selected #10 overall, ranked #10 (attended combine)
  • Anton Lander selected #40 overall, ranked HM (attended combine)
  • Troy Hesketh selected #71 overall
  • Cameron Abney selected #82 overall
  • Kyle Bigos selected #99 overall
  • Toni Rajala selected #101 overall, ranked #50 (attended combine)
  • Olivier Roy selected #133 overall, ranked HM (attended combine)

2010 Oilers draft

  • Taylor Hall selected #1, ranked #1 (attended combine)
  • Tyler Pitlick selected #31, ranked #25 (attended combine)
  • Martin Marincin selected #56, ranked #71 (attended combine)
  • Curtis Hamilton selected #48, ranked 57 (attended combine)
  • Ryan Martindale selected #61, ranked 58 (attended combine)
  • Jeremie Blain selected #91
  • Tyler Bunz selected #121, not ranked (attended combine)
  • Brandon Davidson selected #162, not ranked (attended combine)
  • Drew Czerwonka selected #166
  • Kristians Pelss selected #181
  • Kellen Jones selected #202

2011 Oilers draft

  • Ryan Nugent Hopkins selected #1, ranked #1 (attended combine)
  • Oscar Klefbom selected #19, ranked #21 (attended combine)
  • David Musil selected #31, ranked #41 (attended combine)
  • Samu Perhonen selected #62, ranked #51 (attended combine)
  • Travis Ewanyk selected #74, ranked HM (attended combine)
  • Dillon Simpson selected #92
  • Tobias Rieder selected #114, unranked (attended combine)
  • Martin Gernat selected #122
  • Frans Tuohimaa selected #182

2012 Oilers draft

  • Nail Yakupov selected #1, ranked #1 (attended combine)
  • Mitchell Moroz selected #32, ranked #56 (attended combine)
  • Jujhar Khaira selected #63, not ranked (attended combine)
  • Daniil Zharkov selected #91, ranked #47 (attended combine)
  • Erik Gustafsson selected #93
  • Joey Laleggia selected #123
  • John McCarron selected #153

A few notes:

  • Since 2008, when making a selection inside the top 100 players, Edmonton has selected a player who was not at the combine 6 times: Troy Hesketh, Cameron Abney, Kyle Bigos, Jeremie Blain, Dillon Simpson, Erik Gustafsson. Although Simpson is a solid to very good prospect, it is not an impressive group.
  • We shouldn’t expect this to be an area of strength, this is “drafting for need” and rarely works out. However, it's interesting to note just how many (Hesketh, Bigos, Blain) were not extended contracts. Only Cam Abney has a signed pro contract (with the Oilers) from the group.

THIS YEAR'S LIST

I have highlighted players (with some notes) the possible Oiler targets. Edmonton's draft picks for the top 100 this summer are (at this time) #7, #37 and somewhere around #58 (ANA pick for Cogliano). List and NHL blog is here.

North American skaters
Rank - Player Team (League) Position
1 - Seth Jones Portland (WHL) D
2 - Nathan MacKinnon Halifax (QMJHL) C
3 - Jonathan Drouin Halifax (QMJHL) LW
4 - Darnell Nurse Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) D

5 - Sean Monahan: fine -way center

Ottawa (OHL) C
6 - Hunter Shinkaruk Medicine Hat (WHL) C/LW
7 - Valentin Zykov Baie - Comeau (QMJHL) LW
8 - Frederik Gauthier Rimouski (QMJHL) C
9 - Mirco Mueller Everett (WHL) D
10 - Anthony Mantha-scorer with size
Val - d'Or (QMJHL) RW
11 - Shea Theodore Seattle (WHL) D
12 - Ryan Pulock Brandon (WHL) D
13 - Zach Nastasiuk Owen Sound (OHL) RW
14 - Chris Bigras Owen Sound (OHL) D
15 - Bo Horvat London (OHL) C
16 - Ryan Hartman Plymouth (OHL) RW
17 - Kerby Rychel: size, skill, grit
Windsor (OHL) LW
18 - Wiliam Carrier Cape Breton (QMJHL) LW
19 - Max Domi: impressive finish
London (OHL) C/LW
20 - Curtis Lazar: insider knowledge
Edmonton (WHL) C/LW
21 - James Lodge Saginaw (OHL) C
22 - Nikita Zadorov: Mountain on skates
London (OHL) D
23 - Samuel Morin Rimouski (QMJHL) D
24 - Ian McCoshen Waterloo (USHL) D
25 - Morgan Klimchuk Regina (WHL) LW
26 - Adam Erne Quebec (QMJHL) LW
27 - Joshua Morrissey Prince Albert (WHL) D
28 - Laurent Dauphin Chicoutimi (QMJHL) C
29 - Jon Hayden USA U - 18 (USHL) C
30 - Jason Dickinson Guelph (OHL) C
31 - Dillon Heatherington Swift Current (WHL) D
32 - Madison Bowey: 2-way prospect
Kelowna (WHL) D
33 - Nicolas Petan: small, skilled
Portland (WHL) C
34 - JT Compher: Skill
USA U - 18 (USHL) LW
35 - Michael McCarron: Bull in china shop
USA U - 18 (USHL) RW
36 - Oliver Bjorkstrand Portland (WHL) RW
37 - Jonathan - Ismael Diaby Victoriaville (QMJHL) D
38 - Justin Bailey Kitchener (OHL) RW
39 - Emile Poirier Gatineau (QMJHL) LW
40 - Brett Pesce New Hampshire (H - East) D
41 - Eric Roy Brandon (WHL) D
42 - Adam Tambellini Surrey (BCHL) C
43 - Jan Kostalek Rimouski (QMJHL) D
44 - Thomas Vanelli Minnetonka (High - Mn) D
45 - Connor Hurley Edina High (High - Mn) C
46 - Myles Bell Kelowna (WHL) LW
47 - Steven Santini: 2-way D, size, mean
USA U - 18 (USHL) D
48 - Nick Sorensen Quebec (QMJHL) RW
49 - Michael Downing Dubuque (USHL) D
50 - Yan Pavel Laplante PEI (QMJHL) C
51 - Gustav Olofsson Green Bay (USHL) D
52 - Gabryel Paquin - Boudreau Baie - Comeau (QMJHL) LW
53 - Keaton Thompson USA U - 18 (USHL) D
54 - Marc - Olivier Roy Blainville - Boisbriand (QMJHL) C
55 - Jordan Subban Belleville (OHL) D
56 - Ryan Fitzgerald Valley (EJHL) C
57 - Anthony Duclair Quebec (QMJHL) LW
58 - Nick Moutrey Saginaw (OHL) C/LW
59 - Mason Geertsen Vancouver (WHL) D
60 - Zachary Sanford Islanders (EJHL) LW
61 - Nicholas Baptiste Sudbury (OHL) RW
62 - Sean Malone USA U - 18 (USHL) C
63 - Ryan Kujawinski Kingston (OHL) C
64 - Teemu Kivihalme Burnsville (High - Mn) D
65 - Jackson Houck Vancouver (WHL) RW
66 - Tyler Lewington Medicine Hat (WHL) D
67 - David Pope: plus size, plus shot
West Kelowna (BCHL) LW
68 - Alexandre Coulombe Stanstead College (High - Qc) D
69 - Michell Wheaton Kelowna (WHL) D
70 - Hudson Fasching USA U - 18 (USHL) RW
71 - Remi Elie London (OHL) LW
72 - Kurt Etchegary Quebec (QMJHL) C
73 - Vincent Dunn Val - d'Or (QMJHL) C
74 - Dylan Labbe Shawinigan (QMJHL) D
75 - Anthony Florentino South Kent School (High - Ct) D
76 - Spenser Jensen Medicine Hat (WHL) D
77 - Avery Peterson Grand Rapids (High - Mn) C
78 - Ty Stanton Medicine Hat (WHL) D
79 - Jeremy Gregoire Baie - Comeau (QMJHL) C
     
1 - Zachary Fucale Halifax (QMJHL) G
2 - Eric Comrie Tri - City (WHL) G
3 - Tristan Jarry Edmonton (WHL) G
4 - Calvin Petersen Waterloo (USHL) G
5 - Spencer Martin Mississauga (OHL) G
6 - Eamon McAdam Waterloo (USHL) G
7 - Philippe Desrosiers Rimouski (QMJHL) G

 

 

European skaters
Rank - Player Team (League) Position
1 - Aleksander Barkov Tappara (Finland) C
2 - Valeri Nichushkin Chelyabinsk (Russia) RW
3 - Elias Lindholm: ridiculous skill
Brynas (Sweden) C
4 - Rasmus Ristolainen: 2-way D
TPS (Finland) D
5 - Alexander Wennberg Djurgarden (Sweden) C
6 - Andre Burakovsky Malmo (Sweden) LW
7 - Jacob De La Rose Leksand (Sweden) LW
8 - Robert Hagg Modo Jr. (Sweden) D
9 - Artturi Lehkonen: skill
Kalpa (Finland) LW
10 - Pavel Buchnevich Cherepovets 2 (Russia) LW
11 - Bogdan Yakimov Nizhnekamsk 2 (Russia) C
12 - Marko Dano Bratislava (Russia) C
13 - Linus Arnesson Djurgarden (Sweden) D
14 - Viktor Crus Rydberg Linkoping Jr. (Sweden) C
     
1 - Juuse Saros HPK Jr. (Finland) G

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#1 Spydyr
May 20 2013, 03:47PM
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I hope they try to trade up not down in the fist round

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#2 Sox and Oil
May 20 2013, 03:50PM
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Man I hope they keep the 7ov pick and select either Monahan or Lindholm. Even Nurse. With the young guns starting to come off their ELCs we need young talented value players in the system. Especially C's.

Also and this might be a mistake but I'd like to see another first round pick from this draft. Ideally Phillys pick, which since they are going to have cap issues could be in play.

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#3 Craig1981
May 20 2013, 03:58PM
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I'm still confused about trading our 4th. I know its only a 4th, but for 10 games with Smithson, it just never made sense.

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#4 Spydyr
May 20 2013, 03:59PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

I'm still confused about trading our 4th. I know its only a 4th, but for 10 games with Smithson, it just never made sense.

Never made sense to me either.Tambo's final failure?If you make that move make it when Horcoff got injured and the team free fell without a veteran centre.

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#6 Spydyr
May 20 2013, 04:09PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Not getting Bishop is the one that I didn't understand. Solve problems!

@ Lowetide

Ben Bishop went for Cory Conacher.What do you think the Oilers could have offered better than that?

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#7 Rondo
May 20 2013, 04:13PM
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I've read but don't know if it is accurate that Nikita Zadorov is now 6'7.

I think the only way to trade up( w/o giving up too much) for the Oilers is if Carolina is drafting a D-man.

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#9 clyde
May 20 2013, 04:19PM
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Rondo wrote:

I've read but don't know if it is accurate that Nikita Zadorov is now 6'7.

I think the only way to trade up( w/o giving up too much) for the Oilers is if Carolina is drafting a D-man.

That is true. Watch him at the Memorial Cup. Huge! Mobile for a young fella at that size too. I think Carolina will still ask for a bunch at that spot but the Oilers can afford it if there is someone they really want at 5.

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#10 clyde
May 20 2013, 04:23PM
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Lowetide wrote:

It was Conacher and a 4th. Edmonton could have offered immediate help (rumors had them offering Ryan Jones) and a pick (rumors had it as a second).

If they didn't want Jones, maybe there's another guy. Conacher is a nice young player, and maybe that was an issue--but Tambellini didn't get enough done when opportunities arose.

I am in the minority but I think that Dubnyk is now or will be better than Bishop. Consider the quality of scoring opportunities he sees on a nightly basis. Over the next couple of years, if the defensive coverage improves, so will fan satisfaction in Dugnyk's performance.

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#12 Taylor Gang
May 20 2013, 04:38PM
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I personally think if either Monahan or Nichuskin isn't available, we should just trade the pick. I don't think trading down is a good idea though, probably better off just giving the pick to another team for a great NHL defenseman.

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#13 Romulus' Apotheosis
May 20 2013, 04:43PM
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The real piss-off RE: Bishop is not getting him when he went for a 2nd.

The whole year was a C debacle for the GM. Let's hope we never see that again.

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#14 Sox and Oil
May 20 2013, 04:47PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

I personally think if either Monahan or Nichuskin isn't available, we should just trade the pick. I don't think trading down is a good idea though, probably better off just giving the pick to another team for a great NHL defenseman.

Who do you think they could get with the 7th? I can't see teams giving up a top 2 option for 7th ov.

Unless something like this. (Sorry Philly is on my mind today) 7th ov + Harti to Philly for 11th ov + Coburn.

Likely Edmonton would have to give more and I doubt Philly would consider moving Coburn but they are $3mill over the cap already.

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#15 Oil
May 20 2013, 04:51PM
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@Taylor Gang

Trade the #7 pick and #37 pick for Sean Couturier

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#16 Jerod
May 20 2013, 05:01PM
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What if Colorado takes Mackinnon first. Where does Jones go?

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#17 Sox and Oil
May 20 2013, 05:04PM
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@Jerod

With all of colorados depth down the middle I would say it's a pretty safe bet they take Jones or Drouin. But it will be Jones.

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#18 clyde
May 20 2013, 05:04PM
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Sox and Oil wrote:

Who do you think they could get with the 7th? I can't see teams giving up a top 2 option for 7th ov.

Unless something like this. (Sorry Philly is on my mind today) 7th ov + Harti to Philly for 11th ov + Coburn.

Likely Edmonton would have to give more and I doubt Philly would consider moving Coburn but they are $3mill over the cap already.

For that,I would think the Flyers would consider moving Coburn. Frees up cap space and gives them a shot at an elite center or one of those coveted top 3 def.

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#20 Jerod
May 20 2013, 05:06PM
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Sox and Oil wrote:

With all of colorados depth down the middle I would say it's a pretty safe bet they take Jones or Drouin. But it will be Jones.

I think it is between Jones and Mackinnon . At #1 you choose BPA.

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#21 clyde
May 20 2013, 05:07PM
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Jerod wrote:

What if Colorado takes Mackinnon first. Where does Jones go?

First thing I thought of when I watched those 2 head to head. Jones was so soft in that game, it was scary. You would still think he would go top 3 as he is such a great skater but..... Let's see how he looks tonight against Domi and the boys.

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#22 clyde
May 20 2013, 05:08PM
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Lowetide wrote:

I think Dubnyk is the better option too, but the Oilers have very little depth. Bishop would give them that, maybe push DD a little too.

That is true but it would have probably cost MPV and a 3rd. Pretty steep.

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#23 Rondo
May 20 2013, 05:10PM
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Seth Jones vs. Nikita Zadorov tonight and more.

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#24 clyde
May 20 2013, 05:12PM
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clyde wrote:

That is true but it would have probably cost MPV and a 3rd. Pretty steep.

MPS

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#25 Rama Lama
May 20 2013, 05:16PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

I'm still confused about trading our 4th. I know its only a 4th, but for 10 games with Smithson, it just never made sense.

THis is what retarded management does.........pick a totally over rated player and give up draft picks.

Nothing ( outside of trading Dustin Penner) Tamby and Lowe did ever made much sense, it's no use trying to figure out stupid.

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#26 Romulus' Apotheosis
May 20 2013, 05:17PM
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Jerod wrote:

I think it is between Jones and Mackinnon . At #1 you choose BPA.

Colorado needs D and as long as Jones in the conversation I wouldn't go near them betting against him.

In smaller markets you need to consider ad value... Jones is ripe for Colorado to build a whole media narrative they can sell tix on for years.

That's far from the main consideration... but I think it tips the scales.

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#27 Jerod
May 20 2013, 05:22PM
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@Romulus' Apotheosis

I do agree with you, I just don't think it is a slam dunk.

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#28 Rama Lama
May 20 2013, 05:22PM
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Jerod wrote:

What if Colorado takes Mackinnon first. Where does Jones go?

I watched that game yesterday............I think that Jones may be a star but no more of a star than either Mckinnion or Drouin.

Small sample size one game........but it was a televised game and Mckinnion stole the show!

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#29 Oiler Al
May 20 2013, 05:37PM
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Totally a fun hypothetical question, what if, the Oilers were picking first this year, and seeing as how their need is both at center and defense,.. Who would they pick?

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#30 Kevin
May 20 2013, 05:55PM
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Instituting real change requires a significant emotional event. Real Oil change will require moving #7 & one of the kids (Eberle) in order to get quality top 2 and add grit + size to top 9. I love Zadorov but he won't be there at 7. Anyone else is a longer term project.

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#31 Kevin
May 20 2013, 06:10PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Totally a fun hypothetical question, what if, the Oilers were picking first this year, and seeing as how their need is both at center and defense,.. Who would they pick?

Mackinnon, IMHO. He is the real deal. Seth will be good......but Mackinnon s good. D like wine must age first.

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#32 Maverick
May 20 2013, 06:13PM
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From all reports over the year and especially the last few months, this is a definite deep deep draft in quality prospects. Not all superstars, but better odds than last year that some players into the 4th round might see some NHL action.

Trading a 3rd and a 4th round pick in a year with a deep deep draft for a UFA depth defenseman that hardly played and may not resign and a 34 year old center who came to them 3 weeks too late, makes my head hurt. Tambellini really was Dithers but his decision-making was sometimes odd. I understanding getting NHL players for draft picks is a good idea especially here in E-town but two over payments none the less.

The 7th overall is either a center or the big defenseman or traded away. There is value in either option. MacT won't screw it up too much.

The two second rounders are of the most interest, either Jarry or Comrie at #37 and my hope at #57 or whatever the Anaheim pick ends up, I would be pleased with Ryan Kujawinski. Big depth centre who reminds people of a Boone Jenner. If after the first 5 hours of the draft we get the big D, in Nikita Zadorov, Eric Comrie (G)and Ryan Kujawinski (C). I think that would be a good start. Thoughts??

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#33 geno
May 20 2013, 06:43PM
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Kevin wrote:

Mackinnon, IMHO. He is the real deal. Seth will be good......but Mackinnon s good. D like wine must age first.

I bet you Jones plays 21+ minutes next year

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#34 geno
May 20 2013, 06:45PM
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Watching Horvat right now on sportsnet. This guy's the real deal. If he works on his speed a little bit, he will be a real threat. Really hard to find who to pick in this draft. So much sublime talent.

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#35 Fred
May 20 2013, 06:59PM
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geno wrote:

I bet you Jones plays 21+ minutes next year

In the AHL

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#36 Tsnivek
May 20 2013, 07:17PM
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geno wrote:

I bet you Jones plays 21+ minutes next year

21mins on a very suspect Avs team? Possible but not advise able. Way to crush a top tier talent's confidence.

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#37 6 ring circus
May 20 2013, 07:59PM
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Has anyone heard or seen Tambellini since he was fired or did Katz hire Tony Soprano to get rid of him?

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#38 madjam
May 20 2013, 08:09PM
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geno wrote:

Watching Horvat right now on sportsnet. This guy's the real deal. If he works on his speed a little bit, he will be a real threat. Really hard to find who to pick in this draft. So much sublime talent.

Watching Horvat as well and I see him differently than you ! He does nothing on back check nor does he look adequate defencesively . I'd avoid him -to one dimentional .

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#39 madjam
May 20 2013, 08:22PM
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Oilers take Nicushkin if he is available at nbr.7 . Reason : They can trade him later , or sell his rights up to 4 years down the road for a big return at a later date .

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#40 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
May 20 2013, 08:32PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Has anyone heard or seen Tambellini since he was fired or did Katz hire Tony Soprano to get rid of him?

He has to keep his mouth shut an co-operate with his co-conspirators. A last minute agreed upon severance package probably came with a gag order.

As the hush money comes to an end for Tambellini, i'm sure some of the goings on with Oiler management will start to surface. He'll be needing work again soon, and have to defend his role in this debacle. Soon he'll confirm this was Lowes team all along and he was just hired to take any bullets headed in Kevins direction.

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#41 horndog77
May 20 2013, 08:37PM
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@Lowetide

Perfect! Edmonton swoops in and makes a trade with Nashville for the fourth overall and take Barkov.

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#42 voom04
May 20 2013, 09:05PM
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might be going against the grain here but i think draft nurse and zadarov if the draft falls that way and makes it possible(even if we have to give up apick or player), rather have a shot at finding the next chara, doughty, then give up picks for another top 3,4 def(yandle, etc.). we would be stacked at d,competition would be awesome, it would also give us 2 of the top 3 rated def in a very strong draft, might not solve our problems for this coming year, going forward def becomes a strength.

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#43 madjam
May 20 2013, 09:11PM
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Maybe we should just ask Katz and his boys whom we draft this year at nbr.1 - after all they own the team . Is Lowe the puppet ?

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#44 Rjc
May 20 2013, 09:14PM
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voom04 wrote:

might be going against the grain here but i think draft nurse and zadarov if the draft falls that way and makes it possible(even if we have to give up apick or player), rather have a shot at finding the next chara, doughty, then give up picks for another top 3,4 def(yandle, etc.). we would be stacked at d,competition would be awesome, it would also give us 2 of the top 3 rated def in a very strong draft, might not solve our problems for this coming year, going forward def becomes a strength.

Only a couple games but Zadorov does not look that good.

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#45 clyde
May 20 2013, 09:21PM
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Rjc wrote:

Only a couple games but Zadorov does not look that good.

Zadorov is 6"7. At his age, he is struggling against a huge growth spurt. He will not look super quick but he has a brain, skills and a mean streak. Once he matures, look out. As a Flames fan, I would much rather the Oilers take Monahan than this beast.

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#46 Supernova
May 20 2013, 09:30PM
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Fred wrote:

In the AHL

Can't play in the AHL.

Have to be 20 to play in the AHL if drafted out of junior.

Jones is WHL or NHL next year and has absolutely nothing left to prove in the dub.

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#47 Stack Pad Save
May 20 2013, 10:27PM
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Barkov all the way. Somehow the Oilers gotta get this guy. He is a beast, go watch highlights of this guy on youtube. He is the big strong center the Oilers are in desperate need of.

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#48 Taylor Gang
May 20 2013, 10:36PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

Barkov all the way. Somehow the Oilers gotta get this guy. He is a beast, go watch highlights of this guy on youtube. He is the big strong center the Oilers are in desperate need of.

Why wouldn't they just get Monahan then?

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#49 Walter Sobchak
May 20 2013, 11:20PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

Barkov all the way. Somehow the Oilers gotta get this guy. He is a beast, go watch highlights of this guy on youtube. He is the big strong center the Oilers are in desperate need of.

I agree!!

If Barkov had played in N.A I'm willing to bet he would be hands down number one.

Strength, size, skill, two way game....everything the Oilers need down the middle!

Take a look at what Barkov does in a game at the WJC against team USA, he absolutely owns Jones!! Barkov picked up 3 or 4 points that game all against Jones....the highlights are on YouTube.

I would say its a small sample size except he was doing that to grown men as well in Finland.

Head to head vs Mikko Koivu.....Koivo stated Barkov is an amazing player.

Jari Kurri, Ya, he's really good.

I'm sold. Get it done Lowe!

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#50 Citizen David
May 20 2013, 11:27PM
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Huge Max Domi fan. He's got crazy skill. Don't see the Oilers going for him though.

I know I'm in the minority but I would be all over trading down. Adding an additional piece while still having players like Domi, Horvat, Lazar, Rychel, Zadorov, Pulock available... This is the right move.

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