OILERS NEED MANY CHANGES TO COMPETE

Jason Gregor
May 09 2013 12:53PM

As usual the first round of the NHL playoffs has been great. The intensity, speed, passion and excitement reaches a new level and it is great to watch. However, it also illustrates how far away the Oilers are from being a serious contender. This team isn't just one or two pieces away.

Craig MacTavish and his staff will be hard-pressed just to make them good enough to stay in the playoff race next season.

When MacTavish took over as GM he didn't mince his words. He knows what has to be done, but will they be able to do accomplish what needs to happen?

The Oilers have to get bigger and stronger. If you believe size is over-rated you might want to watch the playoffs a little closer. Of course you need skill, but the size of the Ducks, Sharks, Kings is a main reason they are leading or winning their series.

And their size doesn't consist of players 23 and under. When MacTavish stated he'd have to make some "Bold" moves, he was right, however, the only bold trades the Oilers could make is moving one of Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakupov or Justin Schultz. I don't see how trading any other player would be considered bold. I sense that Oiler fans would love to see some trades, but none that involve the five aforementioned players.

Is moving Ales Hemsky, Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi, Shawn Horcoff, Jeff Petry, Ladislav Smid or Nick Schultz truly bold? I don't think so.

MacTavish's other option for "Bold" move could involved trading the #7 pick. Carolina and Columbus have traded the #8 pick the past two drafts, so I think it is very likely the "Bold" route the Oilers could go.

The Jackets acquired Jeff Carter, while the Hurricanes nabbed Jordan Staal. In both cases they had to surrender another young player in the deal. The Jackets gave up Jakub Voracek, while the Canes moved Brendan Sutter.

The only players who are comparable on the Oilers would be Gagner and Paajarvi. Paajarvi is a completely different type of player than Sutter, but you see the connection.

If the Oilers move Gagner or Paajarvi and the #7 who could they receive in a deal?

Paajarvi and the #7 would be more appealing to a team that wants to get younger, and save some salary. Paajarvi is a pending RFA and he likely won't get more than $1.5 million on a new deal. Gagner is the more established player, but after a solid 38-point campaign he'll get at least $4 million on new deal, and maybe more.

No one saw the Jeff Carter trade coming two years ago, so clearly any trade is possible, so let's look a few scenarios.

WOULD YOU MAKE THIS DEAL?

The Vancouver Canucks are already at the cap for next season with only 15 players signed. Mike Gillis, if he doesn't get fired, will need to shed salary and get younger.

Would he trade Paajarvi and the #7 for Ryan Kesler?

He has to move one of his goalies, and as I said last summer, trading Cory Schneider would be his best move if he wants improve his team. He could move Schneider for a centre and then add Paajarvi and #7. That would give the Canucks some needed speed and youth.

Kesler is exactly the type of 2nd line centre the Oilers need, and his $5 million cap hit isn't an anchor.

Bobby Ryan for Paajarvi and the #7?

The Ducks have $16.8 million tied up in Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf next year. They only have about $4.5 million in cap space. They could stick with Ryan and hope the Cap jumps up in two years when he becomes a UFA, but they might consider two young pieces. Ryan is a winger, and the Oilers need help down the middle, but he's a big, skilled winger and after Hall the Oilers have no size in their top-nine.

Wayne Simmonds for Paajarvi and #7?

The Oilers might want something else as well, but the Flyers need to shed cap space. Simmonds is a $3.9 cap hit for the next six seasons, so the Oilers would have the security of having him for at least six years. Keep in mind Carter had a long contract, while Staal was an RFA and the Canes knew he'd sign long-term to play with his brother.

SOME MORE SPITBALLING....

If the Oilers are looking for a few quick fixes, I'd look at these names.

  • The Penguins will need to shed some salary and I could see them dumping Paul Martin, especially if they want to re-sign Jarome Iginla. He has two years left at $5 million, and he's an experienced puck mover, something the Oilers desperately need.
     
  • Brooks Laich only played nine games due to injury this year, but in his last five seasons he's only missed a total of 4 games. He's 29 and the Caps don't have much cap space. I'd call George McPhee to see if it is possible.
     
  • I know some of the advanced stats guys don't like Jack Johnson, which is fair, but he has improved. He isn't great defensively, but he's physical and he can play 25 minutes. He was 5th in the NHL in TOI, and the Blue Jackets need some offence. Scott Howson knows him well, so I'd at least look into it.

QUICK HITS

  • I know Dion Phaneuf made a bad pinch, but David Krejci's game winner went right through James Reimer. Reimer needed to make that save. In OT the Leafs had some great chances but Tukka Rask stoned them, while Reimer let the game winner go right through him. Phaneuf deserves some blame for his ill-advised pinch, but Reimer's job is to make a key save and it wasn't like that was a perfect shot from Krejci.
     
  • I doubt many picked the Islanders to defeat the Penguins, I didn't, but now that the series is close I'm hoping for the upset. I love the major upsets, and this would be one.
     
  • I highly recommend you get your tickets for our King/Queen Karaoke contest next Friday night at On the Rocks. We are about 50% sold. It will be awesome. We have some excellent Karaoke people lined up. On Tuesday at the Oil Kings game Jason Strudwick and Yukon Jack did a sneak peak performance.
     
  • Check out Strudwick's dance moves 2:30 into the video, Epic. Yukon really impressed with his ability to hit the high notes. Excellent work fellas. After you watch Struds there is no way you won't want to see the finale next Friday. There will be a few more beers involved on that night...You can buy your tickets here. They are $25, but you get $50 in GCs from Oodle Noodle and On The Rocks when you show up, so you make money and support The MS Society.

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#51 Romulus' Apotheosis
May 09 2013, 04:05PM
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@Finally

Welcome!

come back more often.

I'm not sure how reasonable it is, however, to try and trade for a whole line.

I doubt Chara is going, even at the price you set. and I'd simply try and sign Horton, if I wanted him. I wouldn't waste anything but $$ on UFAs.

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#52 Nick
May 09 2013, 04:07PM
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Kesler is a one man wrecking machine when he is healthy. Can take over a game by himself. However he makes no one on his line better. He has been unable to stay healthy through a playoff run.

Players like Horton scare me because of concussion issues

Yandle is a good offensive D man but not a #1 pairing on a Stanley Cup contender.

Picking up older players will give short term results however once we get them it would be very hard to trade them again. Band -aid solutions to comfort the fans.

Trading high first round picks is a losing propostion

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#53 Romulus' Apotheosis
May 09 2013, 04:08PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

I honestly think he's beat down, I don't think his shoulders are 100 % and I don't think his foot will be 100% by September.

I have nothing to substantiate this with, just a hunch,plus watching him, as an ex-athlete and my profession, I can appreciate the time it takes to fully heal, depending of course how bad the fracture is.

Have you noticed when he celebrates a goal? look at pre shoulder surgery's to post surgery,maybe it's just me? but the guy can't lift his arms above his head anymore.

Hemsky is McCain!

Shoulder looked fine to me... the foot should be ready well before the season starts.

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#54 madjam
May 09 2013, 04:10PM
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Bieksa is more preferable for what we need , Kesler and Luongo would be an upgrade as well . Don't care for what your giving up . If it were swap of position in first round then maybe worth persuing .

First things first , goaltending support mild if Khabby returning . Defence definitely needs upgrading -priority one . We should be bold on the backend . Not a fan of B.Ryan (overated like last time we got Penner we got ) . Simmonds okay , but I think we can do better at his price . Paajarvi's value will rise , and I don't think it in our best interests to let him go considering his size and salary , and expected contribution into the future .

We have a history with Ottawa and I believe we might get a deal for C.Neil and or Spezza - both good additions to our club . Horcoff and our first might be a good starting point .

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#55 Cody anderson
May 09 2013, 04:12PM
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Either Ryan or Getzlaf would look awful good in Oliers silks.

Otherwise I would try to retain my pick and package with picks or prospects to move up into the the top 4 if it is doable.

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#56 Will
May 09 2013, 04:14PM
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I wonder if we could get Clarkson for three years at 4 mill? Then trade Hemsky for literally anything. He would look good on our third line, and could move up in the line up on the right side depending on what we need on any given night.

He is a straight up utility character player that can chip in offensively, get under the skin and draw penalties, protect the kids, and hit.

Having said that I think which ever team gets him, gets him for an overpay. Something like 5.5. for five years. booo

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#57 Rama Lama
May 09 2013, 04:16PM
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Kessler need a change of scenery.........I would take this guy any day. He has had no more injuries than Hemsky or Horcoff and plays an aggressive physical game which usually produces injuries.

I think that we may get away from having to trade our First Round pick provided we can sign and compete for UFA talent, most notably Jarome Iginla.

He has sold his 9 million dollar house here in Calgary, so it seems he will be on the move again after he finishes up in Pittisburgh.

I say we sign this guy and do it the first chance we get! We also need to part with Hemsky, and Horcoff the first chance we get. I would part with Hemsky for a first round draft choice and give up Horcoff for whatever we could get for him.

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#58 Walter Sobchak
May 09 2013, 04:20PM
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@Finally

Welcome!

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#59 DoubleJ
May 09 2013, 04:20PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Then who plays center? Don't you dare say Hall! lol

Well you can pick up a second line center. Roy could fill in next year. Weiss is available as ufa's too.

A number one dman is hard to come by. Yandle is a number one dman.

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#60 Walter Sobchak
May 09 2013, 04:21PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

Hemsky is McCain!

Shoulder looked fine to me... the foot should be ready well before the season starts.

Might well be, as I said just a hunch, but one things for sure he's been rode hard!

a lot of miles.

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#61 TigerUnderGlass
May 09 2013, 04:23PM
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Do people really believe the extra 1 inch and 3 pounds the kings are bigger on average is a "main reason" for their success against the Blues?

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#62 madjam
May 09 2013, 04:29PM
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Perspective : We have an overabundance of youth on farm and parent club . To date , like Florida ,that imbalance has not worked in our favor and limited the development cycle . Therefore ,I suspect that imbalance will come with the addition of more veterans not quite so young .

Likely to trade players like Lander and Hartekainen for more veteran talents as an example . Then we could pick up players like Nystrom , Fiddler and Sutter as an example . Could go after bigger talents , like Clarkson for the pair I mentioned for trade as well . We have so much youth to play with and acquire proven NHL'ers .

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#63 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
May 09 2013, 04:30PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Do people really believe the extra 1 inch and 3 pounds the kings are bigger on average is a "main reason" for their success against the Blues?

that extra inch can make all the difference sometimes*

* that's what she said

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#64 geno
May 09 2013, 04:36PM
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I love these kinds of blogs. Makes hockey exciting when there's not even hockey playing.

Someone like Simmonds or Ryan would be awesome. Don't know if VAN'd get rid of Kesler ever, especially to a division rival.

I'd say before you go after another top 6F that they do a blockbuster for a 1-2 shut down D man to pair up with J Schultz. Of the Marc Staal mold.

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#65 jeanshorts
May 09 2013, 04:40PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Do people really believe the extra 1 inch and 3 pounds the kings are bigger on average is a "main reason" for their success against the Blues?

Going by like 3/4 of the articles written by Edmonton MSM and 90% of the comments over the last, what, 3 years, yes, yes they do.

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#66 madjam
May 09 2013, 05:03PM
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Up for adoption or trade : Unlikely to make a difference in parent club anytime soon . Petrell, Smithson, Peckham , Teubert , Fedun , Plante , Lander , Hartekainen , Eager , Hordichuk , Cheechoo , Martindale , Pitluck , OMark , Reddox ,etc... Can we not get at least a decent few upgrades on bottom six spots or higher by dealing them ?

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#67 djc
May 09 2013, 05:40PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Since the bar is set so much lower in Edmonton we should concentrate on B (non wow) level players only. Shea Weber "A" type deals need not be proposed here. Elite potential players don't come here unless they're forced to (drafted).

Oilers 7th and Paajarvi for Tyler Myers?

Oilers 7th and Gagner for Yandle and Vermette?

Oilers 7th and Paajarvi to Nashville for their 4th selection.

Hamonic on the Island starting to look like a nasty SOB that hates losing.

Maybe it's time to start referring to Stu MacGregor as the Not so Magnificent Bastard, considering his record outside of the first round gimmies these last 5 yrs.

Do you win some kind of prize if you mention Shea Weber in 1000 posts?

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#68 GVBlackhawk
May 09 2013, 05:59PM
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@Rama Lama

4 million. Iginla's house is worth 4 million.

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#70 Oilers1168
May 09 2013, 06:03PM
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Hi Jason

I like reading your articles. But this article seems like you feel that trading Magnus is the number 1 thing to do. I feel the opposite. My feeling is Magnus is the type of guy management would want. Comes in as one of the fittest players each year, Excellent attitude, capable of moving up and down the line up, will come in cheap and lastly he is your proto typical big body two way player. A bigger and better hands Brodziak is what I see in young Magnus.

To me bold moves can be packaging some farm hands with draft picks to get a 23-28 year old 3-4 line player that always had the potential but hasn't worked out with their drafted team.

These can be considered bold Hemsky or Horcoff because you know your only going to get 50cents for the dollar on them.

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#71 a lg dubl dubl
May 09 2013, 06:03PM
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All I know is MacT has his work cut out for him this summer.

Id talk to Boston about Marchand, kinda small but plays a big game.

Sign Torres for the 3rd line.

Sign Emery to back up DD.

Use the 7th pick and even the 2nd round pick plus Petry and a prospect to get a top 2 dman.

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#72 Rama Lama
May 09 2013, 06:09PM
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@GVBlackhawk

Too big a number for me to comprehend .

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#74 GVBlackhawk
May 09 2013, 06:14PM
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If the Oilers trade for Jack Johnson, I am going to become the next DSF and start spamming all the Oiler blogs.

Speaking of the troll: HEY DSF, how was St.Cory this year in the playoffs? Remember our argument from last summer when you were ragging on Dubnyk? Of course you do! And I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

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#75 Waiting4six
May 09 2013, 06:18PM
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With the top six basically set in stone the Oilers brass need to focus on the bottom six. Smyth, Horcoff, Belanger, Eager, Hemsky (Like his play but isn't what the the teams needs.) need to be replaced. I think Josh Bailey, and Matt Martin are exactly the type of "role players" required to build a competeting team. They are on cheap salaries, young, can provide limited secondary scoring, and Matt Martin annually finished near the top of the NHL hit leaders. I've give any type of package to get them and Ryan Strome, excluding the fave 5.

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#76 GVBlackhawk
May 09 2013, 06:23PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Kesler hasn't missed a playoff game in last five years. Prior to this year he missed 7 regular season games combined over 5 years. I don't see how one season, where he missed 31 games suddenly makes him injury-prone.

Not having any solid veterans on your team is a losing proposition as well.

It is because people have a short memory.

And although many Oilers fans will not admit it, they would love to have Kesler on the team.

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#77 GVBlackhawk
May 09 2013, 06:31PM
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Waiting4six wrote:

With the top six basically set in stone the Oilers brass need to focus on the bottom six. Smyth, Horcoff, Belanger, Eager, Hemsky (Like his play but isn't what the the teams needs.) need to be replaced. I think Josh Bailey, and Matt Martin are exactly the type of "role players" required to build a competeting team. They are on cheap salaries, young, can provide limited secondary scoring, and Matt Martin annually finished near the top of the NHL hit leaders. I've give any type of package to get them and Ryan Strome, excluding the fave 5.

You think the top 6 is set in stone? I'm not so sure about that. I think they would consider adding a top 6 LW and a top 6 C, both of whom could play more physically.

And I know everyone hates the suggestion, but I would attempt to trade Eberle (and perhaps next year's 1st round pick) for Pietrangelo. I'm not sure if St. Louis can sign all of their RFA's with internal budget constraints. Pretty sure they keep Petro and move Shattenkirk, though.

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#78 Geoff
May 09 2013, 06:35PM
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Bobby ryan would be an interesting pickup. Especially considering what Klowe said about him....lol.

I doubt vancouver trades either Kesler or Bieksa because they were part of the handful of players that actually gave a $%^$ during the playoffs. I think the only way to get them out is to trade for Luongo with either of them and Dubnyk going the other way. Not that it would be a smart move or what not but I think that's what would have to happen.

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#79 DSF
May 09 2013, 06:41PM
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GVBlackhawk wrote:

If the Oilers trade for Jack Johnson, I am going to become the next DSF and start spamming all the Oiler blogs.

Speaking of the troll: HEY DSF, how was St.Cory this year in the playoffs? Remember our argument from last summer when you were ragging on Dubnyk? Of course you do! And I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Schneider had a groin pull in the playoffs.

In the regular season:

Schneider: .927

Dubnyk: .920.

Not even close, really.

P.S.

Jack Johnson, with all his warts, would still be the Oilers best defenseman.

By a mile.

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#80 DSF
May 09 2013, 06:48PM
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Geoff wrote:

Bobby ryan would be an interesting pickup. Especially considering what Klowe said about him....lol.

I doubt vancouver trades either Kesler or Bieksa because they were part of the handful of players that actually gave a $%^$ during the playoffs. I think the only way to get them out is to trade for Luongo with either of them and Dubnyk going the other way. Not that it would be a smart move or what not but I think that's what would have to happen.

Time to disavow the notion that Anaheim and/or Vancouver will be trading within their new division.

If Bobby Ryan is moving, he'll end up in Toronto.

Neither Bieksa or Kesler would waive their NTCs to go to to Edmonton.

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#81 Sliderule
May 09 2013, 06:48PM
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Here's what you could have got at the seventh pick from 06 to 10 06 okposo

07 voracek

08 Wilson

09 Kadri

10 Skinner

It doesn't make sense to give up a pick like that in a draft this strong unless it is a blow your socks off offer.

All the options Jason gives do not hit that level

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#82 Walter Sobchak
May 09 2013, 06:51PM
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Cody anderson wrote:

Either Ryan or Getzlaf would look awful good in Oliers silks.

Otherwise I would try to retain my pick and package with picks or prospects to move up into the the top 4 if it is doable.

"Otherwise I would try to retain my pick and package with picks or prospects to move up into the the top 4 if it is doable."

I still think this is the best plan of action, the Oilers move up using Paajarvi & Hemsky plus a prospect to Nashville or the Hurricanes.

Without an elite center in this draft you can forget about using Gagner as an asset, you can forget about that top pairing D-Man.

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#83 DSF
May 09 2013, 06:51PM
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Oilers1168 wrote:

Hi Jason

I like reading your articles. But this article seems like you feel that trading Magnus is the number 1 thing to do. I feel the opposite. My feeling is Magnus is the type of guy management would want. Comes in as one of the fittest players each year, Excellent attitude, capable of moving up and down the line up, will come in cheap and lastly he is your proto typical big body two way player. A bigger and better hands Brodziak is what I see in young Magnus.

To me bold moves can be packaging some farm hands with draft picks to get a 23-28 year old 3-4 line player that always had the potential but hasn't worked out with their drafted team.

These can be considered bold Hemsky or Horcoff because you know your only going to get 50cents for the dollar on them.

Good grief.

Paajarvi scored all of 16 points playing 42 games, mostly getting 2nd line minutes.

Jannik Hansen scored 27 points on Vancouver's 3rd line.

If you want to play with the big dogs, you have to be MUCH better than Paajarvi.

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#84 GVBlackhawk
May 09 2013, 06:59PM
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DSF wrote:

Schneider had a groin pull in the playoffs.

In the regular season:

Schneider: .927

Dubnyk: .920.

Not even close, really.

P.S.

Jack Johnson, with all his warts, would still be the Oilers best defenseman.

By a mile.

0.007% difference in SV% is not that significant actually. That 0.880% Schneider put up is significantly horrible for the playoffs, however.

Of course he had a groin injury. He injures his groin all the time. That is why he will never be a top-tier goalie -- he cannot play a full season.

Btw, I'm not sure if a groin injury causes a goalie to fumble the puck and give up big, juicy rebounds. You know...the kind that lead to series-ending, tap in goals.

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#85 Nick
May 09 2013, 07:03PM
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@Jason Gregor

Kesler played injured and was not a factor after he was injured n the playoffs.

A healthy Kesler is a top 10 player in the league.

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#86 DrunkGuyTy
May 09 2013, 07:03PM
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How bout trying to get the Schenns as a package out of Philly? Then maybe plucking Calvert outta Columbus? Calvert and Schenn were wicked in junior and got to the Memorial Cup final vs. Hall. Calvert's not that big but he beat up Petry.

Could you put up a combo of Gags, PRV, maybe pick #7, maybe Schultz Sr., prospects? somehow split up between the two teams to make it work?

Maybe? Perhaps? I'm exhausted.

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#87 DSF
May 09 2013, 07:06PM
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GVBlackhawk wrote:

0.007% difference in SV% is not that significant actually. That 0.880% Schneider put up is significantly horrible for the playoffs, however.

Of course he had a groin injury. He injures his groin all the time. That is why he will never be a top-tier goalie -- he cannot play a full season.

Btw, I'm not sure if a groin injury causes a goalie to fumble the puck and give up big, juicy rebounds. You know...the kind that lead to series-ending, tap in goals.

The difference between .927 and .920 is the difference between an elite goaltender and an average goaltender.

If you don't recognize that, I can't help you.

If Dubnyk ever makes it to the playoffs, which I doubt will happen in his Oiler career, we can talk again.

Until then, your guy is a stiff.

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#88 Quicksilver ballet
May 09 2013, 07:15PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Kesler hasn't missed a playoff game in last five years. Prior to this year he missed 7 regular season games combined over 5 years. I don't see how one season, where he missed 31 games suddenly makes him injury-prone.

Not having any solid veterans on your team is a losing proposition as well.

But management has put an abundance of quality veteran support behind these kids already....Horc,Hemsky,Belanger,Whitney,Smyth and Gagner etc etc. Never before has there been a finer group of leaders assembled for a group of young kids to learn from. Have we been lied to all these years?

Hard to believe the same management group who put all these posers in place, are also in charge of replacing them now.

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#89 geno
May 09 2013, 07:16PM
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DSF wrote:

The difference between .927 and .920 is the difference between an elite goaltender and an average goaltender.

If you don't recognize that, I can't help you.

If Dubnyk ever makes it to the playoffs, which I doubt will happen in his Oiler career, we can talk again.

Until then, your guy is a stiff.

Actually the league average was .912. But it's good you did your homework!

Why is it you come here everyday to be an ignorant, uneducated troll?

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#90 geno
May 09 2013, 07:19PM
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DSF wrote:

Good grief.

Paajarvi scored all of 16 points playing 42 games, mostly getting 2nd line minutes.

Jannik Hansen scored 27 points on Vancouver's 3rd line.

If you want to play with the big dogs, you have to be MUCH better than Paajarvi.

judging by how Hansen is 3rd in points on VAN with 27P, I don't think VAN should be your example for optimal depth

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#91 geno
May 09 2013, 07:23PM
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DSF wrote:

Schneider had a groin pull in the playoffs.

In the regular season:

Schneider: .927

Dubnyk: .920.

Not even close, really.

P.S.

Jack Johnson, with all his warts, would still be the Oilers best defenseman.

By a mile.

I'd think MG should be calling about Johnson. Allowing 4 goals a game in the playoffs isn't usually advisable :/

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#92 DSF
May 09 2013, 07:27PM
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Actually the league average was .912. But it's good you did your homework!

Why is it you come here everyday to be an ignorant, uneducated troll?

League average goaltending won't get you into the playoffs unless you have an above average offensive team.

The Oilers were 18th in G/G and 19th in GA/G.

Should I remind you that you have to be in the top 16 to make the playoffs?

You really need to get a grasp on what is actually happening before you resort to name calling.

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May 09 2013, 07:32PM
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judging by how Hansen is 3rd in points on VAN with 27P, I don't think VAN should be your example for optimal depth

Using Vancouver's lack of depth scoring to buttress Paajarvi's dreadful performance doesn't make his lack of production any better,

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I think the Boldest moves will be Offer sheets.

First up 6.3 one year to Pietrangelo, If they match, shattenkirk for a lesser amount.

I know for a fact MacT had a hand in the Vanek and Penner offersheets.

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Time to disavow the notion that Anaheim and/or Vancouver will be trading within their new division.

If Bobby Ryan is moving, he'll end up in Toronto.

Neither Bieksa or Kesler would waive their NTCs to go to to Edmonton.

Yea but then again Justin Schultz won't choose Edmonton either...

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Yea but then again Justin Schultz won't choose Edmonton either...

That didn't work out too well did it?

A defensive disaster.

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League average goaltending won't get you into the playoffs unless you have an above average offensive team.

The Oilers were 18th in G/G and 19th in GA/G.

Should I remind you that you have to be in the top 16 to make the playoffs?

You really need to get a grasp on what is actually happening before you resort to name calling.

Where was Dubnyk though? It appears as though the argument is Dubnyk and not the oilers goaltending as a whole.

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I think the Boldest moves will be Offer sheets.

First up 6.3 one year to Pietrangelo, If they match, shattenkirk for a lesser amount.

I know for a fact MacT had a hand in the Vanek and Penner offersheets.

Offer sheeting any STL player is a waste of time.

They have a huge amount of free cap space and it looks like they'll have a bit of playoff revenue to play with.

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That didn't work out too well did it?

A defensive disaster.

Funny how he seemed fine at the beginning of the season. Fatigue? Likely.

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Where was Dubnyk though? It appears as though the argument is Dubnyk and not the oilers goaltending as a whole.

Dubnyk was right around average.

Did he steal any games for the team?

Not that I can recall.

Unless you're an above average offensive team (the Oilers are below average), that doesn't cut it.

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