13-14 QUESTIONS FOR 13-14

Lowetide
June 15 2013 06:49PM

Between now and training camp, we can expect a lot of changes. New GM Craig MacTavish will work all summer to upgrade the roster in areas of need--center, defense, goal. As we've done in past summers, let's have a look at some of the major questions and see if we can predict what is going to happen.

  1. Who will they take in the first round? Sean Monahan Oilers have three strong options. Deal up for Barkov, stay the course at 7 and select Monahan, Horvat or Nurse, or deal down in hopes Horvat is there (with Curtis Lazar as a possible backup plan). I think there are so many attractive options before Monahan that he slips to #7 and the Oilers grab him.
  2. Who will help Dallas Eakins coach? The Oilers have to put together a coaching staff that can come together quickly, so my guess is that Eakins adds Derek King from his AHL staff and the Oilers keep Steve Smith from last year's group. Mark Lamb completes the staff, with Kelly Buchberger moving to another role in the organization. 
  3. How will they improve the defense? MacT has already added the Russian Belov and I believe the club will be active during the summer, too. We've already heard rumors about Paul Ranger, and I believe Edmonton will add Russian defenseman Fedor Tyutin in a blockbuster deal. He'll help form a top 6D that might go Tyutin-Petry, Smid-J Schultz, N Schultz-Belov and Paul Ranger.
  4. What's the 'wow' trade? I think the Howson connection sees Edmonton acquire Tyutin, L RJ Umberger and C Ryan Johansen from the Blue Jackets in exchange for Sam Gagner, Martin Marincin and Ales Hemsky.
  5. Will they move Hall to center? No. I think the club will use Nuge, Johansen and two free agent signings/trades up the middle. I do not think Monahan makes the team under any circumstances. Among the candidates I can see arriving in Edmonton to play center: Alexander Burmistrov, Boyd Gordon.
  6. Who will the Oilers sign to backup Devan Dubnyk? I think the Oilers will find a way to trade for a suitable backup, perhaps Eddie Lack from Vancouver. I do like Jason Labarbera, but will guess that Ben Scrivens arrives in Edmonton in a summer trade.
  7. What will the top 2 lines look like in the fall? Nuge-Hall-Eberle with Johansen-Paajarvi/Umberger-Yakupov. The club may also attempt to sign a winger with size, but those guys are at a premium. 
  8. How many of their own rfa's does Edmonton sign? Only Paajarvi.
  9. Surprise opening night roster player? Ben Eager.
  10. What current roster player on another team has the best chance of being an Oiler in 13-14? Viktor Stalberg.
  11. Where does Horcoff land? Detroit or Florida or Edmonton.
  12. Why do they trade Gagner? Money. Tambellini not getting a long term deal done cost the Oilers. He blew it, and now MacTavish doesn't have enough coin.
  13. Why did they let Hartikainen go to the KHL? Three things: he didn't get a lot done (read: anything!) at even strength in the NHL, his conditioning wasn't where it needed to be and he is not a natural PF--he's not a mean player by nature.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

  • Nuge-Hall-Eberle
  • Johansen-Paajarvi-Yakupov
  • Burmistrov-Umberger-Stalberg
  • Gordon-Smyth-Brown
  • Lander-Eager
  • Tyutin-Petry
  • Smid-J Schultz
  • N Schultz-Belov
  • Ranger
  • Dubnyk-Scrivens

Nine additions. A summer of change.

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#101 Walter Sobchak
June 16 2013, 08:47AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

As for the deal with Columbus.....For me trying to calculate who might be in the deal is entertaining....but what's more important to me is the idea that Scott Howson has the inside goods on every player in the entire organization....who is highly valued, who is under valued, who wants to be in Columbus who doesn't...he even knows the details about players contracts etc, the kind of details that give you a competitive advantage when your trying to construct a winning deal.......in these situations knowledge is power........I would be very surprised if Columbus and Edmonton don't do some kind of deal......even though I have no particular idea who the players involved might be...

I agree, the Oilers may deal with CBJ but it wont be for the players mentioned in the article.

Unless those player waive there NTC,( highly unlikely ) which is a bad gamble on the Oilers part.

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#102 The Worrier
June 16 2013, 09:13AM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

I enjoyed reading this article and I know it is hypothetical. Worried not really. I have confidence in McT. Never underestimate a Scot.

Umberger doesn't excite me and his a guy that does he really fill a role a the Oilers need (assuming Jones and Horcoff Hartikainen are gone).

As for Gagner, why didn't ST address his contract earlier?

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#103 Acumen
June 16 2013, 09:37AM
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Who will they take in the first round?

Elias Lindholm. He's the one out of the big 7 I see falling.

Who will help Dallas Eakins coach?

I agree with King and Smith. MacTavish seemed to really like the way Smith worked, so I imagine he's the one that will be kept. Apart from them, I would think someone else in an associate role. I woulda said Paul Maurice, but I can't see it with his history with Eakins.

How will they improve the defense?

Someone big and young and top 4ish. I could see a blockbuster for Weber (18 Mil per over the next 3 years just isn't realistic in Tennessee, whatever their GM says), or a flyer on Myers or Jack Johnson, or a strong, strong push to move up and get Seth Jones. I don't think they go for Ranger. Tambo would have done that and did (Potter), but I don't think MacTavish is that sentimental. I trust him to understand that coaches coach, and managers manage.

Also don't see why on earth CBJ would deal Tyutin. If they're trading anyone it's Johnson, but their D looks fine keeping both until some of their talented prospects develop far enough to push them out.

What's the 'wow' trade?

Since we get to just throw crap at the wall with this one, I'll say...

Yakupov for Seguin. We get another Canadian wunderkid locked in on a good contract who can slot in as our RH '1A/B' C. They get one of the few players in the league who's even value straight across for Seguin, but on an ELC in a year where they're contending under cap pressure. Allows them to resign Horton and I think Yak's personality would be a perfect fit in Boston.

Will they move Hall to center?

I think they try it when they need to fill in spots for injury (maybe at the start of the year with Nuge), but ultimately keep him where he's comfortable and successful.

Who will the Oilers sign to backup Devan Dubnyk?

Hoping for Khudobin, expecting someone in the Greiss range.

What will the top 2 lines look like in the fall?

Oh boy, if we get Seguin this is fun!

Hall-Seguin-Gagner, Malone/Umberger-Nuge-Eberle

(Malone, Umberger, or someone similar coming over in a Hemsky trade)

How many of their own RFAs does Edmonton sign?

Magnus and Sam.

Surprise opening night roster player?

Jujhar Khaira. They give the kid a few games in the show with sheltered minutes before Hopkins is fully healed.

What current roster player on another team has the best chance of being an Oiler in 13-14?

Dan Cleary. Calling it because I remember MacT loving him as a player.

Where does Horcoff land?

Detroit, after a compliance buyout.

Why do they trade Gagner?

Because he's a pending UFA and there's a kid named Elias right there to replace him... but this isn't for a few years yet ;)

Why did they let Hartikainen go to the KHL?

Three things: he didn't get a lot done (read: anything!) at even strength in the NHL, his conditioning wasn't where it needed to be and he is not a natural PF--he's not a mean player by nature.

Couldn't have said it better meself!

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#104 Big J
June 16 2013, 09:57AM
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@Citizen David

Actually, the buying out of a player's contract by another team is common practice in the KHL. And I agree with you-Thoresen would be a great pickup.

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#105 Greg The Hammer Valentine
June 16 2013, 10:58AM
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Great discussion! That's what we Oilers fan do: talk about what could be...

I like all your moves LT, but there is no chance Tyutin comes here. Why would they part with him? But I totally agree Ryan Johansen is a good target. Patrick Berglund of St-Louis should be a target too for that big center role.

As for defense, Jeff Schultz is in the dog house in Washington and publicly asked for a trade. Some are even talking compliance byout for him. He shouldn't be too costly. I also like Andrew Ferrence, he's an UFA this summer, and isn't he from Alberta? He would be the veteran presence we just need on defense.

Coaches? I heard Guy Boucher is a workaholic. I'd give him a call for an interview at least.

Good read LT.

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#106 Young Oil
June 16 2013, 11:31AM
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I don't think that Umberger and Tyutin are the right trade targets from CBJ. I'd much prefer Dubinski and Nikitin. Dubinski can mentor our younger centers into becoming better two way players, and Nikitin and Belov have played together before, and would ease Belov's transition into the NHL.

Would Gagner+N.Schultz+Musil+2014 1st for Dubinski+Nikitin+Johansen be fair? If not, what else would we have to add/replace?

Sign Gordon, and that would make our center depth better than it has been in years.

RNH Dubinski Johansen Gordon

Looks even better considering we'd likely have one of Monohan/Lindholm/Barkov after the draft.

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#107 admiralmark
June 16 2013, 11:43AM
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Young Oil wrote:

I don't think that Umberger and Tyutin are the right trade targets from CBJ. I'd much prefer Dubinski and Nikitin. Dubinski can mentor our younger centers into becoming better two way players, and Nikitin and Belov have played together before, and would ease Belov's transition into the NHL.

Would Gagner+N.Schultz+Musil+2014 1st for Dubinski+Nikitin+Johansen be fair? If not, what else would we have to add/replace?

Sign Gordon, and that would make our center depth better than it has been in years.

RNH Dubinski Johansen Gordon

Looks even better considering we'd likely have one of Monohan/Lindholm/Barkov after the draft.

Reasonable and well thought out potential trade Young oil. Doing this + moving the heavens to get Barkov would make our Oilers a playoff team for sure.

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#108 HardBoiledOil
June 16 2013, 11:59AM
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interesting read! and about the only way i would want the Oilers to let Marincin go is if Johansen was coming back the other way from Columbus.

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#109 Jacob Barron
June 16 2013, 12:15PM
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What's the chance of Klefbom playing top 6?

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#110 vetinari
June 16 2013, 12:19PM
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What I'm curious about is the timing of any trades-- will they come right before the draft or in the opening days of free agency?

Our new best friends should be teams that are cap pigs like Philly or Vancouver or Chicago or teams that have players we could use on them like Columbus or NYR.

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#111 DSF
June 16 2013, 12:20PM
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quintana wrote:

Anisimov 11G 7A -6 Letestu 13G 14A +7 Dubi 2G 18A +2

Gagner 14G 24A -6

Yes the Blue Jackets are desperate....Boone Jenner's still a prospect....now go to bed.

Ansimov - 6'4" 200

P/60 5V5 2.35

Gagner - 5'11" 200

P/60 5V5 1.84

Letestu

P/60 5V5 1.96

Dubinsky

P/60 5V5 1.92

To be of value to the Jackets, Gagner would have to replace one of those players in the lineup and he certainly isn't suited to 3rd line duty given his massive defensive shortcomings.

Considering Columbus already has Dubinsky locked up for another two seasons at a cap friendly $4.2M and that Gagner will likely be seeking $5M, exactly why would Columbus swap their #1D for a player who can't outscore any of their top 3 centres at even strength?

I await your analysis.

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#112 WhattaMike
June 16 2013, 12:25PM
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With the Flames now allegedly offering all 3 first round picks to Colorado for the 1st overall....there is no way that Edmonton would beat out calgary for 5th overall if Barkov or Nichushkin were either available.

Unless Edmonton was willing to throw in the 2014 first round pick, plus this yr's 7th, and a high end prospect such as Gernat or Marancin to Carolina, I justcan't see calgary letting the Oilers going ahead of them at this point.

I am not a Flames fan but I believe that if Barkov was there the flames would thropw in all 3 picks to get him and ask for the 5th and a 2nd round pick back.

Just thinking.... On the otyher hand I believe that Edmonton should trade with Nashville if they could somehow. Especially if TB goes for Nichushkin whom they absolutely adore right now with size being the issue only against Drouin.

Now if Calgary was to do a deal with Carolina for the 5th pick and go for Barkov (only reason that Calgary moves up one so Edmonton does not get Barkov) then Edmonton sits awesome for its given want for Monahan at #7 due to that Carolina likely takes one of Nurse or Ristolainen.

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#113 OilClog
June 16 2013, 12:46PM
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Everyone in Columbus rode that guy in the net, won some trophy or something, had an awkward acceptance speech. Sam Gagner

Hey, I did that too.. Scott Gomez :(

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#114 DSF
June 16 2013, 12:52PM
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OilClog wrote:

sweet! stat nit picking, we'll if it's about the size of the dog in the fight. All my money would be on Gagner to win a fight with any of your said Columbus Blue Jackets.

Sam Gagner don't back down, Sam Gagner has pissed Jerome Iginla off, Sam Gagner has scored 8 points in a single swoop! Sam Gagner grows a hell of a Mustache! Sam Gagner is my HEIGHT!

The Entire Oilers team was handcuffed 5V5 all season long, SAM GAGNER!

Sam Gagner scores on Dubinsky's penalty kill. Sam Gagner

Everyone in Columbus rode that guy in the net, won some trophy or something, had an awkward acceptance speech. Sam Gagner

Yeah, no doubt Gagner handcuffs the team at 5V5.

And, I's sure he could handle Boll in a fight.

He's so good, in fact, the Oilers should just keep him.

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#115 Darrell
June 16 2013, 12:58PM
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DSF wrote:

Oh, good grief.

Gagner for a top pairing defenseman? Good luck with that.

Hemsky at his $5M cap hit in return for Umberger with a lower cap hit and better performance when they've already acquired Gaborik?

And a centre prospect for a D prospect the Jackets don't need?

Have you even looked at the Jackets D depth?

Bottom line is the Jackets don't need Gagner, Hemsky or Marincin.

Why would they give up two of their best players to get them?

I just hope your wrong again as the OILERS need a break ....

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#116 OilClog
June 16 2013, 01:02PM
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GANGER!

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#117 Hammers
June 16 2013, 01:06PM
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I like you like Tyutin but think it will be one of there other D's . Also think it could get done with Hemsky & Fedun .Dubinsky is the center I would like and would give Gags but they need to add a pick ??? NY or LA's . So Hemmer , Fedun & Gags for Tyutin plus Dubinsky and a 1st rd pick . Do it early enough and our 1st and the one from Columbus to move up to #5 . Dreaming on Barkov.

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#118 Rama Lama
June 16 2013, 01:34PM
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DSF............NTGAFL!

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#119 Walter Sobchak
June 16 2013, 01:49PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

So many trade options so little time.........the era of blockbuster trades is over. It seems that the logistics of the " Cap" situation has spoiled everthing related to trades.

I hope that we get another first rounder by trading Hemsky.......even if it is low this should give the Oilers Brass what they have been coveting, Curtis Lazar. I'm not sure what they see in this guy but he sounds like a good third line centre.......exactly what we need.

Actually, Lazar plays very little center at the WHL level, I doubt he would see any time at center in the NHL.

He's primarily a winger, I have serious doubt he's on the Oilers radar anymore, possible with Tambellini.

Now that MacTavish is here, I'm thinking Horvat would trump Lazar in Mac-T eyes.

I would love for Hemsky to bring in another first round pick but that might be a stretch.

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#120 HardBoiledOil
June 16 2013, 09:54PM
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i would love to see the Oiler brass shout out..."with the #7 pick in the 2013 NHL entry draft, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select...from the London Knights of the OHL...Bo Horvat!"...

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#121 Bonvie
June 17 2013, 12:25AM
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@DSF

I agree with you for once DSF the Oilers should keep Gagner. He is a very good 2 nd line centre.

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#122 Bonvie
June 17 2013, 12:33AM
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@Bonvie

Oh btw Fedun had a very good season in the AHL he leapfrogged a lot of prospects, and is only behind Marincin who also had a great season, but needs to fill out so he will likely play most or all of the year in the AHL.

I wouldn't be to Eager to trade either Dman.

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#123 Bonvie
June 17 2013, 12:42AM
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DSF is nuts wrote:

What exactly has Jenner proven to make you believe that? Good grief indeed.

You could rank him three but most would say he is the top of the heap of those options.

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#124 Reagan
June 17 2013, 07:18AM
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A few deals will happen but not that much change.

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#125 Tikkanese
June 17 2013, 10:09AM
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If Petry is on our top pairing we are in serious trouble.

Petry should be no higher than #4 and ideally he would be a bottom pairing D-man. I've been pulling for him but I'm leaning towards "the jury's out" on Petry and he's just not good.

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#126 VK63
June 17 2013, 10:34AM
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I approve of Salma's dance.

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#127 Wiggleswag
June 17 2013, 11:38AM
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Would Detroit entertain Hemsky for Brendan Smith?

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#128 Doug
June 17 2013, 04:24PM
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One question.....why does Columbus give up Tyutin and Johansen?

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