13-14 QUESTIONS FOR 13-14

Lowetide
June 15 2013 06:49PM

Between now and training camp, we can expect a lot of changes. New GM Craig MacTavish will work all summer to upgrade the roster in areas of need--center, defense, goal. As we've done in past summers, let's have a look at some of the major questions and see if we can predict what is going to happen.

  1. Who will they take in the first round? Sean Monahan Oilers have three strong options. Deal up for Barkov, stay the course at 7 and select Monahan, Horvat or Nurse, or deal down in hopes Horvat is there (with Curtis Lazar as a possible backup plan). I think there are so many attractive options before Monahan that he slips to #7 and the Oilers grab him.
  2. Who will help Dallas Eakins coach? The Oilers have to put together a coaching staff that can come together quickly, so my guess is that Eakins adds Derek King from his AHL staff and the Oilers keep Steve Smith from last year's group. Mark Lamb completes the staff, with Kelly Buchberger moving to another role in the organization. 
  3. How will they improve the defense? MacT has already added the Russian Belov and I believe the club will be active during the summer, too. We've already heard rumors about Paul Ranger, and I believe Edmonton will add Russian defenseman Fedor Tyutin in a blockbuster deal. He'll help form a top 6D that might go Tyutin-Petry, Smid-J Schultz, N Schultz-Belov and Paul Ranger.
  4. What's the 'wow' trade? I think the Howson connection sees Edmonton acquire Tyutin, L RJ Umberger and C Ryan Johansen from the Blue Jackets in exchange for Sam Gagner, Martin Marincin and Ales Hemsky.
  5. Will they move Hall to center? No. I think the club will use Nuge, Johansen and two free agent signings/trades up the middle. I do not think Monahan makes the team under any circumstances. Among the candidates I can see arriving in Edmonton to play center: Alexander Burmistrov, Boyd Gordon.
  6. Who will the Oilers sign to backup Devan Dubnyk? I think the Oilers will find a way to trade for a suitable backup, perhaps Eddie Lack from Vancouver. I do like Jason Labarbera, but will guess that Ben Scrivens arrives in Edmonton in a summer trade.
  7. What will the top 2 lines look like in the fall? Nuge-Hall-Eberle with Johansen-Paajarvi/Umberger-Yakupov. The club may also attempt to sign a winger with size, but those guys are at a premium. 
  8. How many of their own rfa's does Edmonton sign? Only Paajarvi.
  9. Surprise opening night roster player? Ben Eager.
  10. What current roster player on another team has the best chance of being an Oiler in 13-14? Viktor Stalberg.
  11. Where does Horcoff land? Detroit or Florida or Edmonton.
  12. Why do they trade Gagner? Money. Tambellini not getting a long term deal done cost the Oilers. He blew it, and now MacTavish doesn't have enough coin.
  13. Why did they let Hartikainen go to the KHL? Three things: he didn't get a lot done (read: anything!) at even strength in the NHL, his conditioning wasn't where it needed to be and he is not a natural PF--he's not a mean player by nature.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

  • Nuge-Hall-Eberle
  • Johansen-Paajarvi-Yakupov
  • Burmistrov-Umberger-Stalberg
  • Gordon-Smyth-Brown
  • Lander-Eager
  • Tyutin-Petry
  • Smid-J Schultz
  • N Schultz-Belov
  • Ranger
  • Dubnyk-Scrivens

Nine additions. A summer of change.

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#51 T__Bone88
June 15 2013, 09:31PM
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Lowetide wrote:

My fear in trading up to Carolina is they'll want a D. If they ask for a prospect, fine. But I don't think they will.

Moving a Smid/Petry/N. Schultz would be too much just to move up two spots. If one of those players were included something would be coming back from Carolina as well. In 2008 Tor included a 2nd and 3rd to move up from 7th to 5th.

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#53 DSF
June 15 2013, 09:35PM
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John Chambers wrote:

Dubinsky's a winger. Go to bed.

Dubinsky took 439 faceoffs and won 58.3% of them.

Get a grip.

Fool.

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#54 RexLibris
June 15 2013, 09:42PM
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@TigerUnderGlass

I stand corrected, they have dealt away 1st round picks in three of the last six years.

So 50% of the time.

I still believe it is a bad move, but I will readily admit that the Red Wings was a bad example.

Good catch.

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#55 admiralmark
June 15 2013, 09:49PM
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Lowetide could you be my GM for one off season?! No seriously I would be ecstatic with these moves. However a small unrealistic part of me is holding out for a miracle to move up and snag Barkov.

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#56 RexLibris
June 15 2013, 09:58PM
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@Lowetide

I posted this over on the *other* site.

Rumours of Carolina looking to trade down or out make sense given that the other top four have more or less stated they refuse to deal.

Rutherford is now the sole owner of a highly valuable asset and he is likely getting a lot of calls on it.

My hope is that MacTavish offers him a package that scratches his "win-now" itch and moves up without giving up anything we haven't already identified as expendable.

I'd love to see the look of Feaster's face if the Oilers got to pick Barkov ahead of them.

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#57 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
June 15 2013, 10:15PM
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DSF wrote:

Dubinsky took 439 faceoffs and won 58.3% of them.

Get a grip.

Fool.

All that tells me is that his C got thrown out of the circle often

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#58 Walter Sobchak
June 15 2013, 10:15PM
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DSF wrote:

Dubinsky took 439 faceoffs and won 58.3% of them.

Get a grip.

Fool.

Agreed whole heartily.

I just would like to add a point here if I may DSF.

When people want to make trade speculations such as Lowetides, then I think the proper thing to do is maybe check the players availability.

If LT would have taken 10 second to check cap geek he would have noticed the NTC & NMC that both Umberger and Tyutin have.

This trade will never happen.....Ever!

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#59 Walter Sobchak
June 15 2013, 10:17PM
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RexLibris wrote:

I posted this over on the *other* site.

Rumours of Carolina looking to trade down or out make sense given that the other top four have more or less stated they refuse to deal.

Rutherford is now the sole owner of a highly valuable asset and he is likely getting a lot of calls on it.

My hope is that MacTavish offers him a package that scratches his "win-now" itch and moves up without giving up anything we haven't already identified as expendable.

I'd love to see the look of Feaster's face if the Oilers got to pick Barkov ahead of them.

This is very plausible and I've mentioned it enough, my feeling is this one is the trade that happens first.

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#60 DSF is nuts
June 15 2013, 10:18PM
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DSF wrote:

Artem Ansimov

Brandon Dubinsky

Mark Letestu

Ryan Johansen

Boone Jenner

Do you think the Jackets are so desperate for a centre they'll give up a top pairing D to get one?

I would think Gagner is #4 on that depth chart and Boone Jenner may well take his lunch money.

What exactly has Jenner proven to make you believe that? Good grief indeed.

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#61 Gurpreet Grewal
June 15 2013, 10:22PM
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Do you really think Oilers will trade a future top 4 defensman in Martin Marincin? I mean, I thought he would be a legitimate contender for a roster crack in the upcoming season man

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#62 Walter Sobchak
June 15 2013, 10:23PM
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Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate wrote:

All that tells me is that his C got thrown out of the circle often

Dubinsky is the centre, when he got hurt they slide Umberger over to fill in from time to time. You know that saying "if you aren't cheating, you aren't winning", my guess that's why he gots tossed a lot.

DSF is right, CBJ has great centre depth and Gaborik is Hemsky.

If this trade happens it will be for Dubinsky and Johnson.

You might start with Gagner but you might as well add Klefbom and Paajarvi, this trade won't be cheap.

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#63 MKE
June 15 2013, 10:42PM
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Scrivens is not the guy you want as your back up. I played with and against him for a long time. Especially if you are looking for someone to push Dubnyk.

Scrivens would be a major dissapointment and is a well below average goalie. Zero passion. Lazy. Someone who is not well liked in the dressing room. Take it from someone who has known him for a long time

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#64 MKE
June 15 2013, 10:45PM
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#65 quintana
June 15 2013, 10:52PM
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DSF wrote:

Artem Ansimov

Brandon Dubinsky

Mark Letestu

Ryan Johansen

Boone Jenner

Do you think the Jackets are so desperate for a centre they'll give up a top pairing D to get one?

I would think Gagner is #4 on that depth chart and Boone Jenner may well take his lunch money.

Anisimov 11G 7A -6 Letestu 13G 14A +7 Dubi 2G 18A +2

Gagner 14G 24A -6

Yes the Blue Jackets are desperate....Boone Jenner's still a prospect....now go to bed.

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#66 MKE
June 15 2013, 10:54PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Dubinsky is the centre, when he got hurt they slide Umberger over to fill in from time to time. You know that saying "if you aren't cheating, you aren't winning", my guess that's why he gots tossed a lot.

DSF is right, CBJ has great centre depth and Gaborik is Hemsky.

If this trade happens it will be for Dubinsky and Johnson.

You might start with Gagner but you might as well add Klefbom and Paajarvi, this trade won't be cheap.

Hemsky is a play maker. Gaborik is the sniper. CBJ still needs more high end talent. Hemsky CAN be that...if hes healthy and motivated. And a fresh start would probably help.

Ganger would also be on the first line if he was traded to CBJ.

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#67 Walter Sobchak
June 15 2013, 11:16PM
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MKE wrote:

Hemsky is a play maker. Gaborik is the sniper. CBJ still needs more high end talent. Hemsky CAN be that...if hes healthy and motivated. And a fresh start would probably help.

Ganger would also be on the first line if he was traded to CBJ.

Good points.

I completely agree that Hemsky is STILL a great player and I suppose CBJ could use another player with skill.

However, the point was that Hemsky and Gaborik are very much alike type players, hence the CBJ already has Hemsky, so the need isn't as strong.

I think Gagner is a fantastic player, but Dubinsky is a polished two way centre, I personally take the ten less points on average knowing I'm secure in all zones.

While Gagner is good Dubinsky is a better centre and Ansimov still has good upside.

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#68 tcho
June 15 2013, 11:23PM
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@DSF

Holy cow, you're an a-hole.

Seriously? Gagner's 4th on this depth chart? You've written no shortage of moronic comments on Oilers sites, you sad troll, but this competes for the title.

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#69 TigerUnderGlass
June 15 2013, 11:35PM
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RexLibris wrote:

I stand corrected, they have dealt away 1st round picks in three of the last six years.

So 50% of the time.

I still believe it is a bad move, but I will readily admit that the Red Wings was a bad example.

Good catch.

It's only as high as 50% if you go back exactly 6 or 8 years. Weird that you'd pick 6 like that, especially since I already gave three sets of numbers. :)

Let's put it another way. How many teams have had more first round picks than Detroit over the last 10 years?

Answer: All of them.

Detroit literally trades their first round pick more often than every other team in the league.

I apologize for harping, but I can't help myself. When you hold out the very team most likely to trade their pick (by a mile as it happens) as a shining example of a team that keeps their picks, you have to expect it.

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#70 RyanCoke
June 15 2013, 11:39PM
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thank goodness this site wasnt around in 98-99 with this same topic. 98-99 questions for 98-99

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#71 MKE
June 15 2013, 11:45PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

Good points.

I completely agree that Hemsky is STILL a great player and I suppose CBJ could use another player with skill.

However, the point was that Hemsky and Gaborik are very much alike type players, hence the CBJ already has Hemsky, so the need isn't as strong.

I think Gagner is a fantastic player, but Dubinsky is a polished two way centre, I personally take the ten less points on average knowing I'm secure in all zones.

While Gagner is good Dubinsky is a better centre and Ansimov still has good upside.

I say this respectfuly. Gaborik and Hemsky are both offensive guys. But one is a 40 goal scorer and one is a set up guy. So they arent the same player.

Dubinksy is a very good two way player. Ganger is a higher end offensive guy. I agree id rather have Dubinsky. But with Letestu, and their other centers...to me they are all similar players.

You need a mix. You cant win with a team where all your centers are the same kind of player.

Then again its easy for us to sit and debate. Our jobs arent on the line lol.

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#72 MKE
June 15 2013, 11:46PM
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tcho wrote:

Holy cow, you're an a-hole.

Seriously? Gagner's 4th on this depth chart? You've written no shortage of moronic comments on Oilers sites, you sad troll, but this competes for the title.

When you know DSF is really Mike Milbury, it all makes sense

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#73 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
June 15 2013, 11:50PM
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tcho wrote:

Holy cow, you're an a-hole.

Seriously? Gagner's 4th on this depth chart? You've written no shortage of moronic comments on Oilers sites, you sad troll, but this competes for the title.

He just came here to express his opinion, like everyone else who comes here. Instead of another one of your drive by fruitings, why don't you put your opinion out there for all to see, whilst we warm up the bus to run you over. What makes your opinion so much more important than his?

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#74 stretch14
June 15 2013, 11:52PM
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What's the reasoning for your belief that the Oilers will acquire Tyutin in a "blockbuster" trade? Just baseless speculation?

Also do you really think Horcoff will list FLA as one of his 10 teams with his limited NMC?

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#75 Citizen David
June 15 2013, 11:55PM
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stretch14 wrote:

What's the reasoning for your belief that the Oilers will acquire Tyutin in a "blockbuster" trade? Just baseless speculation?

Also do you really think Horcoff will list FLA as one of his 10 teams with his limited NMC?

His reasoning is the Scott Howson connection. And team needs.

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#76 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
June 16 2013, 12:01AM
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I like Johansen, not big on the other two players though. Could we settle for a collection of deals to arrive at destination wow? Make deals for Scott Hartnell and Steve Ott to add some sandpaper to the lineup. Like to shrink down that Johansen deal to free up some players to do other deals with.

That was a bold move by the Flames to offer their 3 first round selections to Colorado, in exchange for the first overall, have to think they were taking a shot at MacKinnon with that move. Goes to show how much of a drop off there is in this draft after the top 3-5 selections.

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#77 TDSM31
June 16 2013, 12:01AM
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DSF wrote:

Artem Ansimov

Brandon Dubinsky

Mark Letestu

Ryan Johansen

Boone Jenner

Do you think the Jackets are so desperate for a centre they'll give up a top pairing D to get one?

I would think Gagner is #4 on that depth chart and Boone Jenner may well take his lunch money.

Mark Letestu ahead of Gagner??? Think before you speak. Gagner is 4 years younger and has played over twice as many games in the NHL than Letestu. Gagner has averaged over 0.6 pts per game while Letestu has averaged just over 0.4. Gagner averaged over 19 min/game last year while Letestu was in at 16 and a half. Hell, Gagner even averages more PIMS than Letestu! For a team like CBJ that needs offence now way in hell would Gagner be lower on the depth chart.

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#78 Citizen David
June 16 2013, 12:03AM
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I think it was Lowetide over on his blog who once suggested picking up Patrick Thoresen. Sorry LT if I put words in your mouth but if his contract is up or he can terminate it I would be all over this move.

The problem with the Oilers is that all the pieces that have value I don't want to part with. I want us to keep Eberle and Gagner and Klefbom and Marincin and Pajaarvi. I think we have good high end pieces on forward but need better depth. Thoresen has dominated the KHL for the past four years and the Swiss-A before that. He also did very well in the SEL and the AHL. Even had great numbers in the QMJHL. His shot in the NHL was before his prime and he is definately a better player now then he was then. If he comes in here as a third line player that gives us a lot better scoring depth for nothing.

Of course if he is still in a binding contract then this is useless.

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#79 acg5151
June 16 2013, 12:16AM
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3/4) By doing this Columbus trades a good d-man, a rugged winger who can play on pretty much whatever line he's needed, and a center with plenty of upside and who is already pretty good, for a center who can't play defense but can score 40-50 points, a defenseman who isn't even in the NHL, and a winger who's always injured and whose best seasons are already behind him.

Also remember that the Blue Jackets do not need more defensive prospects - that is their strongest position in their prospect pool and they are about to add even more to it, I would wager that they draft at least one defenseman with one of their three picks, possibly Morrissey.

There is no way that Columbus makes that trade, unless the Oilers throw in some high picks.

4) Burmi isn't going anywhere. If anything, the Jets are going to offload the veterans playing ahead of him and possibly Claude Noel. If the Oilers want him, be prepared to pay through the nose for him, and if the Oilers don't want him to play on the top two lines, good luck holding onto him, because he wants to play higher in the lineup than the third line. I fully believe that Burmi would go to a bad team just to play on the top lines.

6) Eddie Lack isn't going anywhere, and neither is Ben Scrivens. The Canucks will need a backup for whichever goalie doesn't get traded, and Scrivens was more than capable for Toronto last season - and doesn't make that much $$$. Jason Labarbera is also doubtful - Phoenix has been high on him for a while.

10) Viktor Stalberg is probable - but the Oilers will need to pay big $$$ for him. He could slot in on the second/third lines and do fine. That would be a smart acquisition for the Oilers because there is no way that the Blackhawks can pay him.

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#80 The Worrier
June 16 2013, 12:20AM
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RJ Umberger? Seriously?!? Why?

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#81 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 16 2013, 01:04AM
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T__Bone88 wrote:

Friedman mentioned that Carolina might deal the 5th overall and that Edm was in possible conversations with them. If that happened the trade would look very similar to the Tor-Nyi trade that moved Tor up to grab Schenn. Best case scenario moving up to 5th is if Tampa takes Nichushkin which means Nashville would take Drouin leaving Barkov for Edm. At worst case they would end up with Monahan if Tampa took Drouin and Nashville took Barkov.

It was exciting to hear Friedman....up to this point the trading up scenario has been the option least talked about by Oilers management.....

Carolina paid a premium to sign Semin...if they took that kind of a chance on a Semin....it's not out of the question that they might also value a Hemsky ( similar type of player) .....also Carolina has been rumoured to be in the market for Dmen in the draft and the Oilers 7th guarantees them one of either Nurse or Ristolainen.....

Not sure about Carolina's cap space etc....Not even sure about the value of Hemsky ......but whatever it is we have to do to move up, I'm all for it.....

5th would do two things....1) it would give us either Barkov, Drouin, or Nickushkin.....beautiful..... And 2 ) as was already mentioned in an earlier post, it would move us a head of our arch rivals to the south.....what a steal that would be......makes it worth paying a premium that a lot of other teams might not be willing to pay.....I for one would definitely be willing to pay that premium.

This rumor/idea seems to have a lot of merit and would definitley exceed all the expectations I had for draft day.

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#82 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 16 2013, 01:23AM
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As for the deal with Columbus.....For me trying to calculate who might be in the deal is entertaining....but what's more important to me is the idea that Scott Howson has the inside goods on every player in the entire organization....who is highly valued, who is under valued, who wants to be in Columbus who doesn't...he even knows the details about players contracts etc, the kind of details that give you a competitive advantage when your trying to construct a winning deal.......in these situations knowledge is power........I would be very surprised if Columbus and Edmonton don't do some kind of deal......even though I have no particular idea who the players involved might be...

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#83 striker777
June 16 2013, 01:28AM
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Re: #4 proposal. I sure hope Marincin is not included in any trade deals. This kid is going to be a solid Chara-like defenseman for a long time.

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#84 jack
June 16 2013, 01:33AM
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Which idiot says Dubinsky is a 2 way player? He has 2 goals, he is as one sided as they get, defence, he is barely a 3rd line center. Hope he has a better year next year.

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#85 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 16 2013, 01:34AM
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striker777 wrote:

Re: #4 proposal. I sure hope Marincin is not included in any trade deals. This kid is going to be a solid Chara-like defenseman for a long time.

Not saying it isn't possible.....but it is HiGHLY unlikely......guys like Chara are exceptionally rare....

I get the point that you said Chara LIKE......

But personally I think it's a few years too early to be making too bold a prediction about a kid who may or may not even have an NHL career......

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#86 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
June 16 2013, 01:38AM
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The Worrier wrote:

RJ Umberger? Seriously?!? Why?

Sounds like your worried 😰about Umberger......

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#87 MKE
June 16 2013, 04:54AM
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jack wrote:

Which idiot says Dubinsky is a 2 way player? He has 2 goals, he is as one sided as they get, defence, he is barely a 3rd line center. Hope he has a better year next year.

I'm "the idiot" that said that. I say that because over his NHL career he has averaged 0.55 points a game.

Last year he has 20 points in 29 games.

Even if you take last year out, he's still averaging over 0.50 points a game over his NHL career.

So ya, i'd say that he more then qualifies as a two way forward.

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#88 NewAgeSys
June 16 2013, 05:27AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

It's only as high as 50% if you go back exactly 6 or 8 years. Weird that you'd pick 6 like that, especially since I already gave three sets of numbers. :)

Let's put it another way. How many teams have had more first round picks than Detroit over the last 10 years?

Answer: All of them.

Detroit literally trades their first round pick more often than every other team in the league.

I apologize for harping, but I can't help myself. When you hold out the very team most likely to trade their pick (by a mile as it happens) as a shining example of a team that keeps their picks, you have to expect it.

Nice observations.

The Wings always have a shopping list in hand and hey have learned to find the least risky spot on the learning curve to make their power become optimized and impactfull.

They know WHAT they want and the WHO part is secondary to them.

They look for specific pieces ALL the time because they have a specific template they are seeking to fill every single year the same way. This is continuity and consistancy of focus and intent being applied, specific resources of a specific degree are being pursued by the Red Wings.

They view the draft properly, and they arent ever really banking on the future, they are trying to remove as much risk as possible each and every draft by realising the best potential ways to translate a draft pick to create the optimal impact that they can manage.

It is a solid tactical perspective from their points of view.

They follow the same basic rules that I would follow, I just have more confidence in choosing the right players, they eliminate that risk as much as they can via timely trades. As I said not a bad tactic, not optimal but close.

I dont experience the risk factor as much as they do simply because of Intuition being on my side.

They have found unique ways to equivilate Statistical influences to Intuitive influences and have made a division in their decisionmaking process that simulates a nice balanced perspective. I am not going into it as it seems very labor intensive to me. By trading their draft pick for players they actually harvest other teams Intuition, they have simply looked at sucess and followed it instead if trying to manifest the Intuition component on their own and taking a greater risk than they need to. They are riding other teams majic carpets in exact and specific areas consistantly.

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#89 season not played
June 16 2013, 06:17AM
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Apologies for the length. Lowetide, while I admire your optimism and appreciate your contributions all summer long, sometimes I wonder about your prognostications regarding the oil in terms of player movement. I will not get into the unrealistic nature of your blockbuster deal with Columbus, but only ask the question that other than being a big body and pedigree, what has Johansen demonstrated that leads you to believe he will be produce top six offense? Anyway, I believe the bold move statement has been blown out of proportion and the team will more or less stay the course. I do not like making trade predictions due to the impossible nature of knowing what all parties may or may not be thinking, but here are a couple thoughts on potential moves. Why Stalberg? He is just a slightly more advanced version of Paajarvi. If I am MacT, I am finished blocking this player. Throw him with Gagner and Yakupov or Eberle and attempt to bring out the player who made the senior mens worlds all star team as a 19 year old. Too bad Horcoff isnt actually a team player or good captain(otherwise he would have accepted his role)so trade him for cheaper bottom six help if possible, or get what you can. He should have been purged with the other sense of entitlement group(Moreau)but Tambellini is more bumbling idiot than intelligent hockey man. Hemsky for more bottom six help. Players that gladly accept there roles and play smart gritty hockey. And yes, Eager probably earned another shot with his work in the playoffs in the ahl. On the blue, I push hard to sign Toni Lydman, who did nice work with Myers a few years ago, and try and sign Ranger. If I accomplish that, Nick Schultz goes for more bottom six help. I would work with Teddy Peckman and try to convert him to a swingman ala Strudwick as they need a willing pugilist and he also allows them to carry an eigth dman/fourth line winger. I will say they pull a nice signing and pick up Gordon.

Dubnyk Goalie Signing

LD Lydman Smid Ranger Belov

RD Petry Schultz Potter

LW Hall Paajarvi Smyth(unfortunately) Eager

RW Eberle Yakupov Nick Schultz Return Horcoff Return

C RNH Gagner Hemsky Return Gordon

Extra C/Wing Smithson

Swingman Peckman

Call Ups Lander Rajala Arcobello Pitlick Marincin Klefbom Teubert

The Oilers are not going to win the cup regardless of what they do this summer, and the above lineup likely does not make the playoffs, but with player growth, the stabalizing presence of Lydman and a more functional bottom six it might. This lineup also promotes internal player development and will allow the oil to maintain a manageable salary structure moving forward which will be critical in the coming years.

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#90 The Beaker
June 16 2013, 06:33AM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

He just came here to express his opinion, like everyone else who comes here. Instead of another one of your drive by fruitings, why don't you put your opinion out there for all to see, whilst we warm up the bus to run you over. What makes your opinion so much more important than his?

you know as well as everyone else here he doesnt just come to state an opinion. He comes purposely to get people riled up and to stir the pot.

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#91 Spydyr
June 16 2013, 08:10AM
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I would much rather dissect a trade after , you know, it is actually made. Sitting around throwing names around is kinda fun , for a while , but it is the equivalent of milking a bull.

It does show how much a lot of Oiler fans over value their players. Think that is the same with most die hard fans though. They get emotionally attached to a player. Even GM's do it.In todays NHL players are assets not your friends if you're a GM. Let's see how Mac-T deals with that in regards to Smyth this summer.

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#92 cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan
June 16 2013, 08:34AM
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DSF wrote:

Dubinsky took 439 faceoffs and won 58.3% of them.

Get a grip.

Fool.

DSF calling someone else a fool?

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#93 Walter Sobchak
June 16 2013, 08:35AM
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MKE wrote:

I'm "the idiot" that said that. I say that because over his NHL career he has averaged 0.55 points a game.

Last year he has 20 points in 29 games.

Even if you take last year out, he's still averaging over 0.50 points a game over his NHL career.

So ya, i'd say that he more then qualifies as a two way forward.

I'll back that statement up as well.

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#94 Rod from Viking
June 16 2013, 08:36AM
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This speculation is fun and really what a site like this is all about. The trades will be interesting and so will the draft. I really think the Oilers will take a real serious run at David Clarkson, he is the right fit and is far more durable than Nathon Horton, this is of course if he makes it to free agency."BOOK IT"

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#95 Walter Sobchak
June 16 2013, 08:47AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

As for the deal with Columbus.....For me trying to calculate who might be in the deal is entertaining....but what's more important to me is the idea that Scott Howson has the inside goods on every player in the entire organization....who is highly valued, who is under valued, who wants to be in Columbus who doesn't...he even knows the details about players contracts etc, the kind of details that give you a competitive advantage when your trying to construct a winning deal.......in these situations knowledge is power........I would be very surprised if Columbus and Edmonton don't do some kind of deal......even though I have no particular idea who the players involved might be...

I agree, the Oilers may deal with CBJ but it wont be for the players mentioned in the article.

Unless those player waive there NTC,( highly unlikely ) which is a bad gamble on the Oilers part.

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#96 The Worrier
June 16 2013, 09:13AM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

I enjoyed reading this article and I know it is hypothetical. Worried not really. I have confidence in McT. Never underestimate a Scot.

Umberger doesn't excite me and his a guy that does he really fill a role a the Oilers need (assuming Jones and Horcoff Hartikainen are gone).

As for Gagner, why didn't ST address his contract earlier?

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#97 Randy
June 16 2013, 09:14AM
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Elias Lindholm

Nashville Predators Chief Amateur Scout Jeff Kealty’s player synopsis: “He is another very good two-way player,” Kealty said. “He has a very good sense of the game, great vision and good competitiveness. He can make plays on both ends of the ice. He is one of those players that makes guys around him better. He is a real versatile player – for him to be contributing at the level he is in the Swedish Elite League at 18-years old is very impressive.”

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#98 Acumen
June 16 2013, 09:37AM
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Who will they take in the first round?

Elias Lindholm. He's the one out of the big 7 I see falling.

Who will help Dallas Eakins coach?

I agree with King and Smith. MacTavish seemed to really like the way Smith worked, so I imagine he's the one that will be kept. Apart from them, I would think someone else in an associate role. I woulda said Paul Maurice, but I can't see it with his history with Eakins.

How will they improve the defense?

Someone big and young and top 4ish. I could see a blockbuster for Weber (18 Mil per over the next 3 years just isn't realistic in Tennessee, whatever their GM says), or a flyer on Myers or Jack Johnson, or a strong, strong push to move up and get Seth Jones. I don't think they go for Ranger. Tambo would have done that and did (Potter), but I don't think MacTavish is that sentimental. I trust him to understand that coaches coach, and managers manage.

Also don't see why on earth CBJ would deal Tyutin. If they're trading anyone it's Johnson, but their D looks fine keeping both until some of their talented prospects develop far enough to push them out.

What's the 'wow' trade?

Since we get to just throw crap at the wall with this one, I'll say...

Yakupov for Seguin. We get another Canadian wunderkid locked in on a good contract who can slot in as our RH '1A/B' C. They get one of the few players in the league who's even value straight across for Seguin, but on an ELC in a year where they're contending under cap pressure. Allows them to resign Horton and I think Yak's personality would be a perfect fit in Boston.

Will they move Hall to center?

I think they try it when they need to fill in spots for injury (maybe at the start of the year with Nuge), but ultimately keep him where he's comfortable and successful.

Who will the Oilers sign to backup Devan Dubnyk?

Hoping for Khudobin, expecting someone in the Greiss range.

What will the top 2 lines look like in the fall?

Oh boy, if we get Seguin this is fun!

Hall-Seguin-Gagner, Malone/Umberger-Nuge-Eberle

(Malone, Umberger, or someone similar coming over in a Hemsky trade)

How many of their own RFAs does Edmonton sign?

Magnus and Sam.

Surprise opening night roster player?

Jujhar Khaira. They give the kid a few games in the show with sheltered minutes before Hopkins is fully healed.

What current roster player on another team has the best chance of being an Oiler in 13-14?

Dan Cleary. Calling it because I remember MacT loving him as a player.

Where does Horcoff land?

Detroit, after a compliance buyout.

Why do they trade Gagner?

Because he's a pending UFA and there's a kid named Elias right there to replace him... but this isn't for a few years yet ;)

Why did they let Hartikainen go to the KHL?

Three things: he didn't get a lot done (read: anything!) at even strength in the NHL, his conditioning wasn't where it needed to be and he is not a natural PF--he's not a mean player by nature.

Couldn't have said it better meself!

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#99 Big J
June 16 2013, 09:57AM
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@Citizen David

Actually, the buying out of a player's contract by another team is common practice in the KHL. And I agree with you-Thoresen would be a great pickup.

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#100 Rama Lama
June 16 2013, 10:37AM
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So many trade options so little time.........the era of blockbuster trades is over. It seems that the logistics of the " Cap" situation has spoiled everthing related to trades.

I hope that we get another first rounder by trading Hemsky.......even if it is low this should give the Oilers Brass what they have been coveting, Curtis Lazar. I'm not sure what they see in this guy but he sounds like a good third line centre.......exactly what we need.

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